What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?

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JRoweSkeptic

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2015, 09:52:53 AM »
Boy, you have a way of making my fears come true. However no matter what you call me it won't shake me. What will shake me is scripture, science, facts, stats, and logic. I'm a YEC and I'm currently in a evolution thread on this forum. Many here will disagree with me but I don't scream at them to read the model. I provide rebuttals and links to back up my claims and I think you should too. I ask that you put on my shoes in that thread and do as I do in the thread.
Because you don't give answers, you paste a link to other bullshitters. And besides, that's one thread, big woop. I have had to put up with your bullshit, and the bullshit from people like you, for months all over the forum: and then you completely ignore every word I say and demand I repeat myself.
No. Fuck you. I don't give a damn about whatever pathetic excuses you've got. Learn to read, respond to the model, or fuck off. If you're not going to even try to learn about what it is you're asking about, you're wasting time, and I see no reason to waste politeness on timewasters. So if you're not going to be remotely honest, and if all you're going to offer is smugness and holier-than-thou-ness, and a complete refusal to learn from an answer, there is no point in talking to you.

Simple fact. I happily have polite conversations with people who provide substance. All you provide is whinging and ignorance and time wasting.

Get a fucking life. if you can say what part of the evidence isn't satisfactory, then maybe we can have a discussion. if, instead, you'll only do what you've done the rest of the time and whinged and lied and refused to acknowledge the answers you're given, you'll be treated as you deserve.

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Oh btw, the point I was making comparing your Aether and Einstein's Aether is that what evidence you have for your Aether. Why should I buy your Aether instead of Einstein's?
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2015, 09:53:45 AM »
Since sustained space flight is not possible with the accelerating FE, satellites would not be able to remain in 'orbit', thus satellites could not exit, but for short periods of time.
Yet many of us receive TV from satellites.
I agree with you. I was simply proving to the engineer that he did in fact say that under the Flat Earth a satellite is impossible.
God forbid anyone challenge your beliefs, lest you be forced to defend or change them.

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2015, 10:02:42 AM »
Since sustained space flight is not possible with the accelerating FE, satellites would not be able to remain in 'orbit', thus satellites could not exit, but for short periods of time.
Does not equal:

"under my model a satellite is impossible".
Good try, though, for a RE'er.


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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2015, 10:03:46 AM »
You said it dude.
Wow.  You RE'ers never fail to disappoint.

You do realise that I'm referencing a quote you made in 2006...

You are picking apart your very own post.
You do realize that I'm referencing your lack of response, in 2015...


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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2015, 10:51:19 AM »
I'm pretty sure I said no such thing.
Pretty sure?  A quick google shows you said exactly that:

At this rate of acceleration, we would have reached the speed of light in just 354.3 DAYS. 
   Now FE'ers whould have us believe that since we are in the same reference frame as the earth, this doesn't violate relativity.  Oh but it does!  In order to say that the Earth is accelerating, a reference frame at rest must have been chosen.  This is how someone can say that the Earth is accelerating- we are moving with reference to something.  Therefore, we would be moving at greater than the speed of light with reference to the frame at rest.  A clear violation of Relativity.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=2357.msg18850#msg18850

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I am not a FE'er, but I am an engineer and I know my physics...
LOL, you're very keen on telling everyone you're an engineer.  Do you do that at parties?  I bet the women love it.

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2015, 01:27:49 PM »
Taking a quote out of context is pretty lame.  To clear it up:
All you said is "under my model a satellite is impossible".
I'm pretty sure I said no such thing.

LOL, you're very keen on telling everyone you're an engineer.
Because I am.

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  I bet the women love it.
I know for a fact my wife does.


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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2015, 01:55:57 PM »
I'm fairly certain you are not an engineer.
fuck off penguin.  I'll take my ban to tell you to go fuck your self.  Ban please.   I am waiting.

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2015, 02:44:10 PM »
Then you would be incorrect.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2015, 07:48:12 PM by TheEngineer »


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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2015, 02:49:03 PM »
I'm fairly certain you are not an engineer.
If he's an engineer I certainly hope he doesn't build anything I use.
Does your boss know? Does your boss know you think the Earth is flat? How are you hireable?
God forbid anyone challenge your beliefs, lest you be forced to defend or change them.

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2015, 02:55:30 PM »
I'm pretty sure I said no such thing.
Pretty sure?  A quick google shows you said exactly that:

At this rate of acceleration, we would have reached the speed of light in just 354.3 DAYS. 
   Now FE'ers whould have us believe that since we are in the same reference frame as the earth, this doesn't violate relativity.  Oh but it does!  In order to say that the Earth is accelerating, a reference frame at rest must have been chosen.  This is how someone can say that the Earth is accelerating- we are moving with reference to something.  Therefore, we would be moving at greater than the speed of light with reference to the frame at rest.  A clear violation of Relativity.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=2357.msg18850#msg18850
Wait. 


Wait.  Are you idiots trying to tell me you were having a single debate over two different threads?!?

That is the epitome of disingenuous.  About what I would expect from you RE'ers.

'Cause I am pretty sure that conversation was happening over here:
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65209.msg1741912#msg1741912

Apparently you guys can't keep your threads straight.


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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2015, 03:20:51 PM »
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #41 on: December 23, 2015, 07:50:01 PM »
If he's an engineer I certainly hope he doesn't build anything I use.
Do you use rockets or missiles?  'Cause that's what I build.


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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #42 on: December 23, 2015, 07:56:48 PM »
If he's an engineer I certainly hope he doesn't build anything I use.
Do you use rockets or missiles?  'Cause that's what I build.

If I did I would have the SWAT team banging down my door. Hold on...I thought I heard something, let me check [comes back] never mind, it was nothing. Anyway as I was saying I don't use rockets or missles.
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #43 on: December 24, 2015, 02:49:27 AM »
Apparently you guys can't keep your threads straight.
Hey, you're the one arguing with yourself.  :P
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #44 on: December 24, 2015, 02:51:03 AM »
If he's an engineer I certainly hope he doesn't build anything I use.
Do you use rockets or missiles?  'Cause that's what I build.
As long as you don't mind when they blow up, TheEngineer's your man!
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #45 on: December 24, 2015, 07:21:20 AM »
If he's an engineer I certainly hope he doesn't build anything I use.
Do you use rockets or missiles?  'Cause that's what I build.
I don't use them, but I certainly don't want a missile that's supposed to kill terrorists to blow up a village of totally innocent people just because the fucktard that designed it and made the calculations designed it to work on a FUCKING FLAT PLANE.
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #46 on: December 24, 2015, 08:58:57 AM »
If he's an engineer I certainly hope he doesn't build anything I use.
Do you use rockets or missiles?  'Cause that's what I build.
I don't use them, but I certainly don't want a missile that's supposed to kill terrorists to blow up a village of totally innocent people just because the fucktard that designed it and made the calculations designed it to work on a FUCKING FLAT PLANE.
Is that why the US can hit everything but ISIS?
fuck off penguin.  I'll take my ban to tell you to go fuck your self.  Ban please.   I am waiting.

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #47 on: December 24, 2015, 12:02:38 PM »
If he's an engineer I certainly hope he doesn't build anything I use.
Do you use rockets or missiles?  'Cause that's what I build.
I don't use them, but I certainly don't want a missile that's supposed to kill terrorists to blow up a village of totally innocent people just because the fucktard that designed it and made the calculations designed it to work on a FUCKING FLAT PLANE.
Is that why the US can hit everything but ISIS?
We can't hit ISIS but we sure as hell can hit a volunteer hospital in a third world country. Thanks, TheEngineer!
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #48 on: December 24, 2015, 04:29:19 PM »
What are the chances of a government antiterrorism bot finding this page.

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #49 on: December 24, 2015, 07:06:25 PM »
Everyone knows satellites exist. Even FE believers. They just claim on the contrary and pretend to believe it for the sake of trolling. Come on.

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #50 on: December 25, 2015, 09:22:56 AM »
Everyone knows satellites exist. Even FE believers. They just claim on the contrary and pretend to believe it for the sake of trolling. Come on.

Do you go to the Chevy forums in order to proclaim that Fords are better and then declare that all the Chevy people are trolls?  Do you even know the definition of an internet troll, Kirk Johnson?  Because you seem like the very definition.  Look in the mirror sometime, troll.   

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2015, 12:01:37 PM »
Everyone knows satellites exist. Even FE believers. They just claim on the contrary and pretend to believe it for the sake of trolling. Come on.

Do you go to the Chevy forums in order to proclaim that Fords are better and then declare that all the Chevy people are trolls?  Do you even know the definition of an internet troll, Kirk Johnson?  Because you seem like the very definition.  Look in the mirror sometime, troll.
That analogy doesn't even apply to this situation. Wouldn't someone saying something random that derails be the real troll?

Anyway, we can see stuff revolving around other planets, why would it not work for ours too?
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #52 on: December 26, 2015, 04:21:49 PM »
Also Chevy is real.

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #53 on: December 27, 2015, 12:47:44 AM »
I realize this is asking you to prove a negative but since you FEs make the claim that they don't exist then its up to you to provide physical evidence. And Jroweskepic this isn't for you since you believe that they do exist or at least the ISS.
Maybe not only Jroweskepic:
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Its not a lie. Satellites and ISS are completely consistent with my work. Of course, much of round earth theory wants us to believe instead that a magical force defies most of Newtons Laws - we instead realize our naive view of space.

But, the usual proof that satellites can't exist seems to be:
"Satellites can prove the earth is a globe, therefore satellites cannot exist!"
Of course this is "reinforced" by other arguments, such as:
Rockets cannot work in a vacuum.
The thermosphere would melt them,  yet
The "infinite" cold of space would freeze everything (this was from a very dubious source) and of course
Space does not exist.
It's easy of course,  satellites cannot coexist with  the Flat Earth.
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #54 on: December 27, 2015, 01:21:56 PM »
Earth has been proved to be a globe, so those arguments are even worse, http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65251.0#.VoBVHhmnxAg

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #55 on: December 27, 2015, 02:53:26 PM »
Earth has been proved to be a globe, so those arguments are even worse, http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65251.0#.VoBVHhmnxAg

What is this proof that you speak of?  I have yet to see it. 

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #56 on: December 27, 2015, 03:23:51 PM »
Earth has been proved to be a globe, so those arguments are even worse, http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=65251.0#.VoBVHhmnxAg

What is this proof that you speak of?  I have yet to see it.

If you'll click on the link you'll see. The star trails at the south can't be explained by a flat earth. Since you and I both disagree with DET, then you're only left with regular flat earth.
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #57 on: December 27, 2015, 05:51:53 PM »
This entire thread is a fallacy.  You can't prove a negative.  What proof do you have that the Lock Ness Monster does not exist?

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #58 on: December 27, 2015, 06:00:05 PM »
This entire thread is a fallacy.  You can't prove a negative.  What proof do you have that the Lock Ness Monster does not exist?

Uh, I stated that in the OP. you're the one (or at least your comrades) that's saying they don't exists. You make the claim, you provide backing.
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #59 on: December 27, 2015, 06:03:50 PM »
This entire thread is a fallacy.  You can't prove a negative.  What proof do you have that the Lock Ness Monster does not exist?

Uh, I stated that in the OP. you're the one (or at least your comrades) that's saying they don't exists. You make the claim, you provide backing.

So, then, are you claiming that Nessie does exist, or agreeing that you can't prove a negative?