Why do astronauts on board ISS float around

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #60 on: December 25, 2015, 07:16:48 AM »
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ISS exists, and you can prove it for yourself.

Yes? Is the NA§A SSwimming pool acceSSible to the public?

:D :D
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #61 on: December 25, 2015, 07:25:24 AM »
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ISS exists, and you can prove it for yourself.

Yes? Is the NA§A SSwimming pool acceSSible to the public?

:D :D

Good point. However, I believe you need a member ship card from the actors guild to swim in it.
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #62 on: December 25, 2015, 07:35:44 AM »
Quote from: getrealzommb

ISS exists, and you can prove it for yourself.

Yes? Is the NA§A SSwimming pool acceSSible to the public?

:D :D

Good point. However, I believe you need a member ship card from the actors guild to swim in it.
spectators go free

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #63 on: December 25, 2015, 07:39:39 AM »
gaia...if gravity is so strong what prevents all the planets from being absorbed by the sun?

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #64 on: December 25, 2015, 07:46:15 AM »
gaia...if gravity is so strong what prevents all the planets from being absorbed by the sun?
Because they are in gravitational equilibrium; orbit.

There are also objects not in gravitational equilibrium; proof of that can be obseved every day on Earth; meteors a.k.a. falling stars.

There's nothing else; orbit or crashing.

Objects can be caught in orbit from desequilibrium; Phobos and Deimos have experienced just that and are now orbiting Mars.
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #65 on: December 25, 2015, 07:47:31 AM »
Yendor, do you at least understand now why astronauts on board the ISS 'float' around?

I realize that they show them floating around because they are either on the Vomit Comet or suspended  by wires. It is not because they are free falling back to Earth.
So you don't believe satellites or the ISS exist.  OK.

Let me rephrase my question.

Do you at least understand now how orbiting works and why astronauts would float around on board the ISS if it were in orbit?

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #66 on: December 25, 2015, 07:52:57 AM »
gaia...if gravity is so strong what prevents all the planets from being absorbed by the sun?
Because they are in gravitational equilibrium; orbit.

There are also objects not in gravitational equilibrium; proof of that can be obseved every day on Earth; meteors a.k.a. falling stars.

There's nothing else; orbit or crashing.

Objects can be caught in orbit from desequilibrium; Phobos and Deimos have experienced just that and are now orbiting Mars.
equilibrium between gravity and whatelse? if there is gravity u need at least another force(of equal magnitude) to be in equilibrium

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #67 on: December 25, 2015, 07:58:15 AM »
gaia...if gravity is so strong what prevents all the planets from being absorbed by the sun?
Because they are in gravitational equilibrium; orbit.

There are also objects not in gravitational equilibrium; proof of that can be obseved every day on Earth; meteors a.k.a. falling stars.

There's nothing else; orbit or crashing.

Objects can be caught in orbit from desequilibrium; Phobos and Deimos have experienced just that and are now orbiting Mars.
equilibrium between gravity and whatelse? if there is gravity u need at least another force(of equal magnitude) to be in equilibrium

There is only 1 force in space; gravity. The equilibrium is between different gravitational fields.

Just like a magnetic object can be in equilibrium between different magnetic fields.
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #68 on: December 25, 2015, 08:12:47 AM »
but magnetic forces can either be repulsive or attractive.
gravitational forces are only attractive.
gravity depend on mass, but in the solar system there's no object with a mass similar to the sun, how can there be a gravitational force able to contrast the one produced by the sun?

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Yendor

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #69 on: December 25, 2015, 09:19:29 AM »
Yendor, do you at least understand now why astronauts on board the ISS 'float' around?

I realize that they show them floating around because they are either on the Vomit Comet or suspended  by wires. It is not because they are free falling back to Earth.
So you don't believe satellites or the ISS exist.  OK.

Let me rephrase my question.

Do you at least understand now how orbiting works and why astronauts would float around on board the ISS if it were in orbit?

I understand the definition of orbit. That does not mean artificial satellites orbit.
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luckyfred

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #70 on: December 25, 2015, 09:36:43 AM »
Understanding the definition does not mean u Know How they work

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29silhouette

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #71 on: December 25, 2015, 09:38:42 AM »
Yendor, do you at least understand now why astronauts on board the ISS 'float' around?

I realize that they show them floating around because they are either on the Vomit Comet or suspended  by wires. It is not because they are free falling back to Earth.
So you don't believe satellites or the ISS exist.  OK.

Let me rephrase my question.

Do you at least understand now how orbiting works and why astronauts would float around on board the ISS if it were in orbit?

I understand the definition of orbit. That does not mean artificial satellites orbit.
Do you at least understand now how orbiting works and why astronauts would float around on board the ISS if it were in orbit?

This really is just a 'yes' or 'no' question.

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #72 on: December 25, 2015, 02:47:50 PM »
Yendor, do you at least understand now why astronauts on board the ISS 'float' around?

I realize that they show them floating around because they are either on the Vomit Comet or suspended  by wires. It is not because they are free falling back to Earth.
So you don't believe satellites or the ISS exist.  OK.

Let me rephrase my question.

Do you at least understand now how orbiting works and why astronauts would float around on board the ISS if it were in orbit?

I understand the definition of orbit. That does not mean artificial satellites orbit.
Do you at least understand now how orbiting works and why astronauts would float around on board the ISS if it were in orbit?

This really is just a 'yes' or 'no' question.

I don't. Please explain. I suspect I will have many questions.
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Yendor

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #73 on: December 26, 2015, 06:59:52 AM »
Yendor, do you at least understand now why astronauts on board the ISS 'float' around?

I realize that they show them floating around because they are either on the Vomit Comet or suspended  by wires. It is not because they are free falling back to Earth.
So you don't believe satellites or the ISS exist.  OK.

Let me rephrase my question.

Do you at least understand now how orbiting works and why astronauts would float around on board the ISS if it were in orbit?

I understand the definition of orbit. That does not mean artificial satellites orbit.
Do you at least understand now how orbiting works and why astronauts would float around on board the ISS if it were in orbit?

This really is just a 'yes' or 'no' question.

Reading this below article, nothing is said about free fall, so I don't see why they would be floating around. My answer is NO.

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #74 on: December 26, 2015, 07:25:39 AM »
Yendor, do you at least understand now why astronauts on board the ISS 'float' around?

I realize that they show them floating around because they are either on the Vomit Comet or suspended  by wires. It is not because they are free falling back to Earth.
So you don't believe satellites or the ISS exist.  OK.

Let me rephrase my question.

Do you at least understand now how orbiting works and why astronauts would float around on board the ISS if it were in orbit?

I understand the definition of orbit. That does not mean artificial satellites orbit.
Do you at least understand now how orbiting works and why astronauts would float around on board the ISS if it were in orbit?

This really is just a 'yes' or 'no' question.

Reading this below article, nothing is said about free fall, so I don't see why they would be floating around. My answer is NO.



So the ISS is in a permanent state of free fall , its forward velocity is fast enough the it is falling at the same rate as the curvature of earth is falling away from it. the Astronauts on board experience this as a lack of gravity. (like the Vomit Commit)

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Gaia_Redonda

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #75 on: December 26, 2015, 07:34:16 AM »

Reading this below article, nothing is said about free fall, so I don't see why they would be floating around. My answer is NO.



Circular orbits around a single body... Kepler and me are laughing at the clowns coming up with that nonsense. :D :D
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #76 on: December 26, 2015, 08:11:25 AM »
Reading this below article, nothing is said about free fall, so I don't see why they would be floating around.
I would interpret "gravity of another body in space pulls it in." or "pulled into the other one completely and crash." as freefall, but that's just me.

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My answer is NO.
I realize now you haven't made the following connection:   The astronauts themselves, their cameras, computers, pens, papers, watches, clothes, etc, are also all in orbit along with the ISS.

Now then, if you understand how the ISS orbits Earth, you should understand how astronauts float inside it.

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #77 on: December 26, 2015, 08:55:36 AM »

Reading this below article, nothing is said about free fall, so I don't see why they would be floating around. My answer is NO.



Circular orbits around a single body... Kepler and me are laughing at the clowns coming up with that nonsense. :D :D

i'm still waiting for u to point out a planet with enough mass so that its gravity is able to counteract the one of the sun, preventing planets from being absorbed by our star. have u forgotten?

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Yendor

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #78 on: December 26, 2015, 09:34:30 AM »
Reading this below article, nothing is said about free fall, so I don't see why they would be floating around.
I would interpret "gravity of another body in space pulls it in." or "pulled into the other one completely and crash." as freefall, but that's just me.

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My answer is NO.
I realize now you haven't made the following connection:   The astronauts themselves, their cameras, computers, pens, papers, watches, clothes, etc, are also all in orbit along with the ISS.

Now then, if you understand how the ISS orbits Earth, you should understand how astronauts float inside it.

Referring to the article on orbiting I presented to you, you are saying that because an object orbits the Earth, everything inside that object is floating. Please explain why that would happen?
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #79 on: December 26, 2015, 09:54:32 AM »
Referring to the article on orbiting I presented to you, you are saying that because an object orbits the Earth, everything inside that object is floating. Please explain why that would happen?
I did.

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The astronauts themselves, their cameras, computers, pens, papers, watches, clothes, etc, are also all in orbit along with the ISS.

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Yendor

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #80 on: December 26, 2015, 10:04:20 AM »
Referring to the article on orbiting I presented to you, you are saying that because an object orbits the Earth, everything inside that object is floating. Please explain why that would happen?
I did.

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The astronauts themselves, their cameras, computers, pens, papers, watches, clothes, etc, are also all in orbit along with the ISS.

Just tell me why something is in orbit why things inside float around.
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #81 on: December 26, 2015, 10:07:27 AM »


Referring to the article on orbiting I presented to you, you are saying that because an object orbits the Earth, everything inside that object is floating. Please explain why that would happen?

It's because everything inside that object is traveling at the same speed than the object... When inside the ISS you travel at the same speed as the ISS, in other words the same forces (inertia and gravity) will apply to you.

When you open the door of the ISS and get out you will then travel alongside the ISS. If you slow down the ISS with a rocket it won't affect you but the ISS will fall behind and start to decent to earth. You will carry on in your trajectory.

If you were inside the ISS when it slowed down you will slow down as well.

When your car accelerates you accelerate along with it

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #82 on: December 26, 2015, 10:20:04 AM »


Referring to the article on orbiting I presented to you, you are saying that because an object orbits the Earth, everything inside that object is floating. Please explain why that would happen?

It's because everything inside that object is traveling at the same speed than the object... When inside the ISS you travel at the same speed as the ISS, in other words the same forces (inertia and gravity) will apply to you.

When you open the door of the ISS and get out you will then travel alongside the ISS. If you slow down the ISS with a rocket it won't affect you but the ISS will fall behind and start to decent to earth. You will carry on in your trajectory.

If you were inside the ISS when it slowed down you will slow down as well.

When your car accelerates you accelerate along with it

You are saying that people and things float around because of the speed the ISS is traveling? How fast would does an airplane have to travel until the passengers start to float around?
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Pavarotti

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #83 on: December 26, 2015, 10:28:10 AM »


Referring to the article on orbiting I presented to you, you are saying that because an object orbits the Earth, everything inside that object is floating. Please explain why that would happen?

It's because everything inside that object is traveling at the same speed than the object... When inside the ISS you travel at the same speed as the ISS, in other words the same forces (inertia and gravity) will apply to you.

When you open the door of the ISS and get out you will then travel alongside the ISS. If you slow down the ISS with a rocket it won't affect you but the ISS will fall behind and start to decent to earth. You will carry on in your trajectory.

If you were inside the ISS when it slowed down you will slow down as well.

When your car accelerates you accelerate along with it

You are saying that people and things float around because of the speed the ISS is traveling? How fast would does an airplane have to travel until the passengers start to float around?

Crude answer: about 15 000 - 18 000mph. At this speed the airplane will burn up though due to atmospheric friction.
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29silhouette

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #84 on: December 26, 2015, 10:29:32 AM »
Just tell me why something is in orbit
This has been explained over the last 4 pages by several people, including articles you linked to.
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why things inside float around.
Because they are also in orbit.

You are saying that people and things float around because of the speed the ISS is traveling?
Yes.

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How fast would does an airplane have to travel until the passengers start to float around?
About 17,000 mph (good luck doing that at the elevations they fly at), unless it's a 'zero-g' parabolic flight (vomit-comet), which as you posted back on page one, you also have almost no understanding of.

*17,686mph after a quick search
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #85 on: December 26, 2015, 11:18:34 AM »
18,000 mph/~30,000 km/h?? :D :D

Fucking clowns. Nothing man-made has or will ever be able to go that fast.

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Pavarotti

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #86 on: December 26, 2015, 11:22:32 AM »
18,000 mph/~30,000 km/h?? :D :D

Fucking clowns. Nothing man-made has or will ever be able to go that fast.

"Son, quit playing games now, you'll get stuck in that fantasy world..."

If everyone had your mindset then we wouldn't have had technologies and discoveries because everything simply would have seemed to impossible.

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #87 on: December 26, 2015, 11:28:37 AM »
18,000 mph/~30,000 km/h?? :D :D

Fucking clowns. Nothing man-made has or will ever be able to go that fast.

"Son, quit playing games now, you'll get stuck in that fantasy world..."

If everyone had your mindset then we wouldn't have had technologies and discoveries because everything simply would have seemed to impossible.

:D You don't even know me, clown.
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Pavarotti

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #88 on: December 26, 2015, 11:39:13 AM »
18,000 mph/~30,000 km/h?? :D :D

Fucking clowns. Nothing man-made has or will ever be able to go that fast.

"Son, quit playing games now, you'll get stuck in that fantasy world..."

If everyone had your mindset then we wouldn't have had technologies and discoveries because everything simply would have seemed to impossible.

:D You don't even know me, clown.

I agree

However you still made a narrow minded post and my statement still stands true

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #89 on: December 26, 2015, 11:53:55 AM »
Oh I love science fiction.

But I don't forget the second word; "fiction".

I embrace science as well; after all I am a scientist.

Hence my focus; separating the science from the fiction.
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