OMG I'm in space

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SirAlexMann

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OMG I'm in space
« on: December 15, 2015, 03:27:20 AM »
Who else was watching the fake launch?

Notice how they didn't point the camera inside the shuttle towards any windows? surely they would like us to see what it looks like from the window of the rocket....
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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2015, 03:46:02 AM »
To which launch are u referring? Space shuttles are not being launched anymore.

Ps plenty of Eva footage from both iss and space shuttles

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SirAlexMann

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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2015, 04:18:50 AM »
The one that happened a couple of hours ago, And I couldn't think of the right word, so I used shuttle.

Also explain why they wouldn't want to put a camera either on the outside or pointing out the window?

It's almost like they don't want us to see outside it.
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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2015, 04:26:38 AM »
Again there is already plenty of footage from iss and various space walk. U can also find footage of "amateur" launches that reached more than 100km of altitude. And there is also plenty of footage from u2 flight in which u see the curvature of the earth and the space

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SirAlexMann

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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2015, 04:28:35 AM »
The only way that you could see a "curvature" is if they were using a fish eye lens. Take a look at photos from the top of mountains, see if the earth curves in anyway, and all that video footage is fake, search it on YouTube and you shall see.
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MaNaeSWolf

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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2015, 04:28:50 AM »
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35101643
Here Mr Alex.

A more exciting rocket launch will happen on on 19 December. That one is going to try and land afterwards.
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SirAlexMann

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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2015, 04:30:25 AM »
Good luck to them with their fakeness
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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2015, 04:37:00 AM »
Why do u want footage if u consider it fake? ???

Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2015, 04:57:08 AM »
Again there is already plenty of footage from iss and various space walk.
What do you mean by "footage"?  :-\

Do you mean the astrobubbles in NASA's swimming pool "space".
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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2015, 05:01:48 AM »
No, footage taken during extra vehicular activity in space

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SirAlexMann

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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2015, 05:04:02 AM »
Hence "Bubbles" need I say more
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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2015, 05:06:41 AM »
No, footage taken during extra vehicular activity in space
Really? I am most interested to see real footage of that! Would be amazing.

Do you have a link of the best real footage?
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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2015, 05:22:54 AM »
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since i already know u're gonna claim is fake...could u tell me why u consider space missions impossibile?
would be nice also to point out why u think is fake

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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2015, 05:54:37 AM »
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since i already know u're gonna claim is fake...could u tell me why u consider space missions impossibile?
would be nice also to point out why u think is fake
It's not me claiming it is fake. Physics defines it must be, as it cannot be real.

That's very simple:

- the force that keeps us on the Earth is gravity (or "electromagnetics" for FE fans)
- the force that keeps the Moon in tidal orbit with the Earth is gravity (or I don't know what mechanism in FE)

So to leave the Earth completely the only mechanism of transport would be antigravity. Or "anti-electromagnetics" for Flat Earthers.

And so incredibly strong that it can fight the gravity which even acts on a heavy body as our own Moon. Not to mention it has to fight the gravitational pull of the Sun....  8)

Balloons, aircraft and rockets are made for atmospheric conditions where there's pressure (molecules at not too far distance from each other) and temperature (molecules moving).

The "vast nothingness of space" (or aether for FE'rs) is just that, where both factors are nearly zero.

Rockets do work in atmosphere and not in space just like we have submarines for subsea and airplanes for the skies. Both wouldn't work in the other environment.

Current technology does not include antigravity, so space travel at this moment is impossible.

Thanks for the vid, I may watch it some day.
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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2015, 05:56:44 AM »
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since i already know u're gonna claim is fake...could u tell me why u consider space missions impossibile?
would be nice also to point out why u think is fake

It will be more like "Cause I don't believe it and I am afraid of being proven wrong".

Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2015, 06:42:01 AM »
Don't need antigravity, only kinetical energy. If only antigravity can oppose to gravity what would prevent the sun from absorbing all the planet in orbit?

But most of all, why do u think rocket cannot do work in space? They don't need an atmosphere to create thrust

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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2015, 07:07:21 AM »
Don't need antigravity, only kinetical energy.

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If only antigravity can oppose to gravity what would prevent the sun from absorbing all the planet in orbit?

The orbits of us and our closest celestial bodies are paths defined by the gravitational fields of Sun, Moon and Earth itself. Looking farther other stars or the center of the Milky Way would have an effect.

To escape fom Earth one would have to escape from the gravitational pull of the Earth completely. Then one has to deal with the gravitational field of the Moon and after that comes the biggest attractor; the Sun.

It will never be possible to build an antigravity reactor so strong that it can fight the Earth (as the Earths gravity will always be bigger than what mankind will come up with), let alone to fight the Sun.

One would have to live on a massive* planet with only less heavy moons and a less heavy star than the planet to be able to escape and not be pulled into the Sun.

Mankind will be stuck to me forever.


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But most of all, why do u think rocket cannot do work in space? They don't need an atmosphere to create thrust

I am not repeating myself and NASA lies are not science, thank you.

*read this word; mass
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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2015, 07:29:25 AM »
u haven't explained why rockets shouldn't work in space.
thrust is not produced by pushing against something but by accelerating a mass.
ps u consider only nasa but u're forgetting that there are russian, european, chinese, indians, israelis and also private companies that have got rocket that go to space.

orbits are all about potential energy and kinetical energy. if the earth would stop spinning around the sun i would be pulled ad absorbed by it

Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2015, 07:37:08 AM »

That's very simple:

- the force that keeps us on the Earth is gravity (or "electromagnetics" for FE fans)
- the force that keeps the Moon in tidal orbit with the Earth is gravity (or I don't know what mechanism in FE)

So to leave the Earth completely the only mechanism of transport would be antigravity.

That may be very simple, it's also very stupid.

Clearly objects leave the earth's surface every day.  What, exactly, stops them carrying on upwards?  At what point does this "anti-gravity" become needed?
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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2015, 07:51:15 AM »

That's very simple:

- the force that keeps us on the Earth is gravity (or "electromagnetics" for FE fans)
- the force that keeps the Moon in tidal orbit with the Earth is gravity (or I don't know what mechanism in FE)

So to leave the Earth completely the only mechanism of transport would be antigravity.

That may be very simple, it's also very stupid.

Clearly objects leave the earth's surface every day.  What, exactly, stops them carrying on upwards?  At what point does this "anti-gravity" become needed?

Objects indeed leave my scarred skin every day but keep hovering within the atmosphere around us. The atmosphere is attracted with the same gravity as everything else.

To leave the Earth completely and to escape the gravitational pull of the Earth is what I said.

It is intrinsically impossible to build an antigravity reactor bigger/stronger than the gravity of the host planet it would be built upon.

The mass of the planet is defining the gravity. To build an antigravity reactor, one would need a mass bigger than the Earth itself. The only problem is; our only building materials are coming from my upper skin itself.

One would have to mine more than 50% of the mass of the Earth to build an antigravity thingy to be sure to leave.

Good luck with that.

No space travel, no visiting aliens, never. As any extraterrestrial lifeform, no matter how intelligent, is bound to the same simple physical laws of beautiful nature.

Rest assured.
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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2015, 08:01:38 AM »
Again, u do not need antigravity. Only sufficient speed, actually u can easily calculate the speed needed to escape earth's gravity. Orbit are only a matter of potential and kinetic energy.

How would u explain comets that cross our solar system without being captured by one of the planets' gravity?

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MaNaeSWolf

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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2015, 08:52:47 AM »
I am going to drop in here quick to say this.
It is always important to know the difference between people who believe in things because their perceived facts have pointed them that way, and people who believe in things emotionally as a religion. This goes for everyone on all sides
You can argue with facts with the one, but not the other.

That is all, you may continue.
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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2015, 09:17:33 AM »
It's over, space-cultists.

There's a new breed of Truth-Seeker around...

They may not all agree on the shape of the earth, or exactly what those silly lights in the sky you lot obsess over are, but they know damn well that NASA is a Fraudulent organisation, and that rocketry in a vacuum is impossible because You Cannot Push on Nothing.

As Gaia said:

I am not repeating myself and NASA lies are not science, thank you.

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If you Do Not wish to Enter, then kindly stop Lurking at the Threshold & Gatekeeping those who Do.

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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2015, 09:31:32 AM »
How would u explain comets that cross our solar system without being captured by one of the planets' gravity?
Comets are in orbits.

There are only two possibilities:
1 - an object is in gravitational equilibrium with all the G-factors around it = orbit
2 - an object is (kicked?) out of equilibrium and follows the gravitational field that is strongest; will be attracted to the strongest G factor

There's nothing else. It's either orbit or crashing onto the heaviest celestial body around.

That many particles in space are out of orbit is clear from the many meteors observable every day (not just with showers) on Earth. Everyone can travel to places where they can be seen, or from a plane at night they are beautiful.

But there's no third way. Although NASA claims they have invented thingies that can be "steered out of orbit" or "corrected from orbit". Orbit is not some path one designs on a computer. Orbit is the result of gravitational forces. One can only respect them.
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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2015, 09:39:58 AM »
no, in order to have a orbit u need also kinetical energy, hence speed.
without speed u don't have nothing to counteact the gravity for the sun's gravity and all planets will be absorbed by it.


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Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2015, 09:42:06 AM »
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But there's no third way. Although NASA claims they have invented thingies that can be "steered out of orbit" or "corrected from orbit". Orbit is not some path one designs on a computer. Orbit is the result of gravitational forces. One can only respect them.
What credentials do you have that makes you correct over the millions of people around the world who send things into space every year?
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« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2015, 09:55:49 AM »
If we can't get anything into space, how does GPS work?

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« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2015, 09:58:37 AM »
What credentials do you have that makes you correct

It's not about credentials. The basic physics speaks for itself.

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over the millions of people around the world who send things into space every year?

Millions of people? Sending things into space? Every year?

Where did you get that idea from? TV?  :D

Never knew there were "millions of people" rich enough to participate in this, but I am sure you have that fact backed up with "millions of sources"...

How are these "millions of people" getting their things (and especially people) back? Alive?

A simple rock burns up to dust due to atmospheric friction and the huge gravitational attraction of myself.

But NASA has heat shields! That prevents you from burning. Like perfect brakes of a car. Never run out cause immune to friction.

NASA Cartoon physics.  ;D

I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses - Johannes Kepler (1571-1630)

Re: OMG I'm in space
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2015, 10:04:36 AM »
i think he was referring to the thousands of scientist and engineers working in the space industry.

heat shields are mostly made by ceramic material, they are changed every time and every time they have failed people have died... see columbia disaster


but most of all physics does speak for itself, but first u have to learn it,that's why i suggest u to read those pages