What would convince you the world was round?

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What would convince you the world was round?
« on: December 14, 2015, 07:46:25 PM »
Hi everyone. I would love to hear what facts or proofs would cause you to realise that the world is round. How could it be proven to you? I suspect nothing will.

Lets just imagine for a moment that it IS round. Would you ever believe it?

What if you went on a civilian near-space flight and saw the curvature of the earth? What if you learnt physics and joined a rocket development team?

Also, i would like to be posed problems with the round earth model that i could refute.



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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2015, 08:08:38 PM »
Nothing would convince me for I'm already convinced that thearth is a globe. BTW, I said that to subscribe to the thread. Carry on FEs.
The Bible doesn't support a flat earth.

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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2015, 08:35:19 PM »
Nothing would convince me for I'm already convinced that thearth is a globe. BTW, I said that to subscribe to the thread. Carry on FEs.

I think in this context, round == globe.

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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2015, 08:46:51 PM »
Nothing would convince me for I'm already convinced that thearth is a globe. BTW, I said that to subscribe to the thread. Carry on FEs.

I think in this context, round == globe.

I know, I'm just using the more correct term for it.
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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2015, 02:39:12 AM »
I would be convinced that the Earth is round if it was not for all of the mountains of evidence that says it is not. 

Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2015, 04:50:04 AM »
I would be convinced that the Earth is round if it was not for all of the mountains of evidence that says it is not.

You mean, the tiny bit "evidence" that is against the round earth compared to the mountain of facts and evidence that says it is round?
Yeah, makes sense.

Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2015, 04:58:07 AM »
I would be convinced that the Earth is round if it was not for all of the mountains of evidence that says it is not.

Give me a single piece of evidence that i can't refute.

Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2015, 09:08:09 AM »
I would be convinced that the Earth is round if it was not for all of the mountains of evidence that says it is not.

This is something a believer of a deity or leprechauns/ghosts/fairies would say about their belief. All words and not evidence.

Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2015, 09:11:00 AM »
HI, bit new here and still trying to get my head around all the facts. I don’t like just theory and strive to understand, but looking to be convinced, which means I got lots of questions…If the earth was a globe/ball with the dimensions they suggest how the hell did they build the Suez Canal?? It’s 102 miles long, joins the red sea to the med, a man made cut of 26ft depth and has NO LOCKS (means it's FLAT!). This should have 1.2Miles of curvature allowance but it’s completely flat on the earths surface for 102 miles?? How?? If it was flat/horizontal for 102 miles the center of this should be in 1.2 mile deep gully cut through the ball, how does this work on a ball?? Anyone explain??  (Mods, if this in the wrong place please move, not got around all the threads yet)

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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2015, 09:14:42 AM »
Hi everyone. I would love to hear what facts or proofs would cause you to realise that the world is round. How could it be proven to you? I suspect nothing will.

Lets just imagine for a moment that it IS round. Would you ever believe it?

What if you went on a civilian near-space flight and saw the curvature of the earth? What if you learnt physics and joined a rocket development team?

Also, i would like to be posed problems with the round earth model that i could refute.
If there was concrete and logical proof that the Earth was a globe then I'd happily accept it.
The reality is that there is no logic in what is portrayed to us about this so called globe. It's reliant on fantasy science that is accepted due to the fact that mere mortals like ordinary people do not get a say in the matter.

All the globe theories are nonsense and should be so clear to most people how silly they are. Unfortunately, people love to adhere to fantasy, which is why they can tell you anything.

Anyone queuing for star wars?

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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2015, 09:30:36 AM »
I would be convinced that the Earth is round if it was not for all of the mountains of evidence that says it is not.

This is something a believer of a deity or leprechauns/ghosts/fairies would say about their belief. All words and not evidence.

I'm just responding to the deity part since I'm a Christian. Not to derail the thread but I think there are three ways scientifically that a creator exist:

1. The golden meme ratio
2. The DNA code
3. The impossibility of the contrary

There are thread to take this up with me or you can PM me if you want to talk about this any further. Ok, carry on.
The Bible doesn't support a flat earth.

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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2015, 09:31:53 AM »
Hi everyone. I would love to hear what facts or proofs would cause you to realise that the world is round. How could it be proven to you? I suspect nothing will.

Lets just imagine for a moment that it IS round. Would you ever believe it?

What if you went on a civilian near-space flight and saw the curvature of the earth? What if you learnt physics and joined a rocket development team?

Also, i would like to be posed problems with the round earth model that i could refute.
If there was concrete and logical proof that the Earth was a globe then I'd happily accept it.
The reality is that there is no logic in what is portrayed to us about this so called globe. It's reliant on fantasy science that is accepted due to the fact that mere mortals like ordinary people do not get a say in the matter.

All the globe theories are nonsense and should be so clear to most people how silly they are. Unfortunately, people love to adhere to fantasy, which is why they can tell you anything.

Anyone queuing for star wars?

Right... Because your flat Earth fantasy totally doesn't rely on magic to make it work. By the way, I could say the same thing about your flat Earth theories: they're all nonsense.
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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2015, 10:53:26 AM »
HI, bit new here and still trying to get my head around all the facts. I don’t like just theory and strive to understand, but looking to be convinced, which means I got lots of questions…If the earth was a globe/ball with the dimensions they suggest how the hell did they build the Suez Canal?? It’s 102 miles long, joins the red sea to the med, a man made cut of 26ft depth and has NO LOCKS (means it's FLAT!). This should have 1.2Miles of curvature allowance but it’s completely flat on the earths surface for 102 miles?? How?? If it was flat/horizontal for 102 miles the center of this should be in 1.2 mile deep gully cut through the ball, how does this work on a ball?? Anyone explain??  (Mods, if this in the wrong place please move, not got around all the threads yet)

Don't know how 'Bump' works here........but 'Bump'!  Be interested in someone discussing this?

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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2015, 07:33:16 PM »
HI, bit new here and still trying to get my head around all the facts. I don’t like just theory and strive to understand, but looking to be convinced, which means I got lots of questions…If the earth was a globe/ball with the dimensions they suggest how the hell did they build the Suez Canal?? It’s 102 miles long, joins the red sea to the med, a man made cut of 26ft depth and has NO LOCKS (means it's FLAT!). This should have 1.2Miles of curvature allowance but it’s completely flat on the earths surface for 102 miles?? How?? If it was flat/horizontal for 102 miles the center of this should be in 1.2 mile deep gully cut through the ball, how does this work on a ball?? Anyone explain??  (Mods, if this in the wrong place please move, not got around all the threads yet)

Don't know how 'Bump' works here........but 'Bump'!  Be interested in someone discussing this?
No need to wait an answer is not possible. There is no curve so the ball Earth theory is not valid. It is only an exercise in math and theory with no bases in physical fact.



If the Earth is a ball why don't we fall off the bottom?

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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2015, 07:37:48 PM »
HI, bit new here and still trying to get my head around all the facts. I don’t like just theory and strive to understand, but looking to be convinced, which means I got lots of questions…If the earth was a globe/ball with the dimensions they suggest how the hell did they build the Suez Canal?? It’s 102 miles long, joins the red sea to the med, a man made cut of 26ft depth and has NO LOCKS (means it's FLAT!). This should have 1.2Miles of curvature allowance but it’s completely flat on the earths surface for 102 miles?? How?? If it was flat/horizontal for 102 miles the center of this should be in 1.2 mile deep gully cut through the ball, how does this work on a ball?? Anyone explain??  (Mods, if this in the wrong place please move, not got around all the threads yet)

Don't know how 'Bump' works here........but 'Bump'!  Be interested in someone discussing this?
No need to wait an answer is not possible. There is no curve so the ball Earth theory is not valid. It is only an exercise in math and theory with no bases in physical fact.

Please. Shut up. You've asked for physical evidence so many damn times. How many times do I have post these?

1. Sunsets and sunrises.
2. Lunar phases.
3. Navigation techniques are based on a round Earth model, and work just fine.
4. Discrepancies in the amount of daylight at certain latitudes certain times of the year.
5. The existence of Antarctica.
6. Hobby weather balloons, and model rockets with cameras showing curvature.
7. Auroras.
8. Other planets, stars, galaxies, etc.
9. The differences in the way the stars look in the night sky in certain places on Earth.
10. The horizon.
11. Antarctica flights.
12. Circumnavigation by any means of transportation.
13. Lunar eclipses.
14. The shadow of Earth on the moon.
15. The ISS, which is easily observable with a plain telescope and a basic knowledge of astronomy.
16. The increased distance of the horizon as you move higher in altitude.
17. Satellites.
18. The Coriolis Effect.
19. The fact that we can observe planets behaving in the ways the laws of gravity predict.
20. The fact that Earth's gravity gets lower the higher you get.
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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2015, 08:01:30 PM »
I see that TheEarthIsRound has still not bothered to learn the meaning of physical evidence. 

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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2015, 08:05:35 PM »
I see that TheEarthIsRound has still not bothered to learn the meaning of physical evidence.

I see that ojra is trying to steer the conversation away from the solid evidence of a round Earth.
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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2015, 08:17:02 PM »
Hi everyone. I would love to hear what facts or proofs would cause you to realise that the world is round. How could it be proven to you? I suspect nothing will.
The only thing that would convince me that the earth is a spinning ball is if all of the shills left this forum. 

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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2015, 08:25:13 PM »
Hi everyone. I would love to hear what facts or proofs would cause you to realise that the world is round. How could it be proven to you? I suspect nothing will.
The only thing that would convince me that the earth is a spinning ball is if all of the shills left this forum.

I'm waiting.
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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2015, 09:16:54 AM »
Hi everyone. I would love to hear what facts or proofs would cause you to realise that the world is round. How could it be proven to you? I suspect nothing will.
The only thing that would convince me that the earth is a spinning ball is if all of the shills left this forum.

Would be too boring for you to be singing to the choir. How high your paranoia must be to believe we are really shills? Paid shills to keep only 10 people in the whole world?

Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2015, 02:25:05 PM »
Why is no one discussing about my method i posted. My suggestion can prove whether it is a globe or a flat just by seeing how long the perimeter of antarctica is . please tell me if my method will or will not work? i dont see it not working.

Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2015, 04:00:56 AM »
I could be easily convinced! All i need is an actual video of the earth spinning. Or even some real photos of earth, planets etc. How can this be hard to provide in this age? We should have tonnes of footage of a credible nature, hey! we should have a moon base by now. This kind of evidence is hard to provide if it's not there!
The complete opposite of the way we are living is much closer to the True nature of life on this earth. About Face!

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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2015, 04:30:18 AM »
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Why is no one discussing about my method i posted. My suggestion can prove whether it is a globe or a flat just by seeing how long the perimeter of antarctica is . please tell me if my method will or will not work? i dont see it not working.
Your method will work. And has been done. And it did show that it only takes about 26 000km to circumnavigate. (actually 17000km, but it has been done in 26 000km)
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I could be easily convinced! All i need is an actual video of the earth spinning. Or even some real photos of earth, planets etc. How can this be hard to provide in this age? We should have tonnes of footage of a credible nature, hey! we should have a moon base by now. This kind of evidence is hard to provide if it's not there!
Would you look if someone showed you?
If you move fast enough, everything appears flat

Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2015, 04:48:44 AM »
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Would you look if someone showed you?



Of Course!
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Re: What would convince you the world was round?
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2015, 05:06:21 AM »
If you are serious and want to watch a rocket going into space then go here https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/3wpjgs/the_orbcomm2_super_faq/
That is reddit, and there you will get information on the next SpaceX launch on Saturday.
From there they can tell you exactly where online you can watch the launch and where you can watch it in person. Also, they will be performing a 1st stage landing, you can get information where it lands from that too.
If you are satisfied with only
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an actual video of the earth spinning. Or even some real photos of earth, planets etc
there is google
If you move fast enough, everything appears flat