The Problem with Oxygen?

Plus you completely avoided my statement by saying I said something that you said. You call yourselves smart. I can always, and always will call you out when you pull that shit.

It must make you feel dumb to say I said something that I did not.  Perhaps, I am simply smarter than you?  Just a thought. 

My theory is that, as you move towards the edge, the temperature continually drops.  Eventually, the temperature reaches the point where different gasses turn into liquid and simply precipitate out of the air.  This liquid simply pools and turns into streams that flow back towards the warmer regions, where it evaporates into a gas again and the cycle continues.  In this model, by the time you would reach the edge, it is so cold that there is no atmoplane.

Do you have any evidence for this?

The temperature drops because you are moving away from the sun.  It is that simple.

You seem to lack basic scientific knowledge. The Sun's distance is pretty negligible here on Earth as a cause for temperature drops. Otherwise, mountains would be warmer than sea-level. Observations completely disprove what you say. You are clearly wrong.

Quote from: jroa on December 11, 2015, 02:45:48 AM

Quote from: wonkaswilly12 on December 11, 2015, 02:32:47 AM

Still not answering my question are you? In case you can't read: Why haven't scientists discovered this edge, or any explorers going to the edge of antarctica, or the north pole. Forget about water vapor and answer me, or else I will always ignore you as you can't even answer a simple question

Perhaps they did and we are not being told about it.  Or, perhaps they simply don't care because they think the Earth is round.  Or, perhaps it is simply impossible to go there.  How should I know?   Do you think I have access to all top secret files, or that I can read people's minds or something?  You people have been making increasingly unreasonable demands lately.  Is it because you have run out of ammo for your round Earth theory?

I can tell you first hand, that no such edge exists, as I have been to antarctica. If it is impossible to reach this end; explain. I would love to know the magic mumbo jumbo you blame it on. And, this is your theory, not mine. I expect you to be able to explain the simplest parts of your theory; ie Where is the edge. You people have been making increasingly unreasonable demands lately.  Is it because you have run out of ammo for your flat Earth theory?

Really? You went to Antarctica? Cool! You saw that coming didnt you? I know, but I couldn't resist. But seriously you really went to the South Pole?

Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 09:52:17 PM

The temperature drops because you are moving away from the sun.  It is that simple.

You seem to lack basic scientific knowledge. The Sun's distance is pretty negligible here on Earth as a cause for temperature drops. Otherwise, mountains would be warmer than sea-level. Observations completely disprove what you say. You are clearly wrong.

I agree and it points out the ball Earth sun not being the cause of the seasons and the ball Earth sun has no effect on the north region being temperate and the southern region being extremely cold. This proves there is no 'tilt' to the Earth and that the sun is a close effect.

Quote from: wonkaswilly12 on December 11, 2015, 02:50:35 AM

Quote from: jroa on December 11, 2015, 02:45:48 AM

Quote from: wonkaswilly12 on December 11, 2015, 02:32:47 AM

Still not answering my question are you? In case you can't read: Why haven't scientists discovered this edge, or any explorers going to the edge of antarctica, or the north pole. Forget about water vapor and answer me, or else I will always ignore you as you can't even answer a simple question

Perhaps they did and we are not being told about it.  Or, perhaps they simply don't care because they think the Earth is round.  Or, perhaps it is simply impossible to go there.  How should I know?   Do you think I have access to all top secret files, or that I can read people's minds or something?  You people have been making increasingly unreasonable demands lately.  Is it because you have run out of ammo for your round Earth theory?

I can tell you first hand, that no such edge exists, as I have been to antarctica. If it is impossible to reach this end; explain. I would love to know the magic mumbo jumbo you blame it on. And, this is your theory, not mine. I expect you to be able to explain the simplest parts of your theory; ie Where is the edge. You people have been making increasingly unreasonable demands lately.  Is it because you have run out of ammo for your flat Earth theory?

Really? You went to Antarctica? Cool! You saw that coming didnt you? I know, but I couldn't resist. But seriously you really went to the South Pole?

Yes, It Was an amazing experience, however, it was very cold . My friend was rich and he was going on a holiday there, and invited me over.

Quote from: wonkaswilly12 on December 11, 2015, 03:06:42 AM

Quote from: jroa on December 11, 2015, 02:45:48 AM

Quote from: wonkaswilly12 on December 11, 2015, 02:32:47 AM

Still not answering my question are you? In case you can't read: Why haven't scientists discovered this edge, or any explorers going to the edge of antarctica, or the north pole. Forget about water vapor and answer me, or else I will always ignore you as you can't even answer a simple question

  Or, perhaps it is simply impossible to go there.   

That quote was in reference of going to the edge, which may or may not be possible.  Your claim was that you went to Antarctica, and I said that nobody said it was impossible to go there.  Please, learn the difference between the edge of the Earth and Antarctica, otherwise known to you roundies as the "Ice Wall".

I never mentioned it being impossible to go to antarctica. Infact I will repeat my question: Why haven't scientists or explorers, or me discovered this edge? Its not that hard to explain!

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on December 11, 2015, 02:38:19 PM

Quote from: wonkaswilly12 on December 11, 2015, 02:50:35 AM

Quote from: jroa on December 11, 2015, 02:45:48 AM

Quote from: wonkaswilly12 on December 11, 2015, 02:32:47 AM

Still not answering my question are you? In case you can't read: Why haven't scientists discovered this edge, or any explorers going to the edge of antarctica, or the north pole. Forget about water vapor and answer me, or else I will always ignore you as you can't even answer a simple question

Perhaps they did and we are not being told about it.  Or, perhaps they simply don't care because they think the Earth is round.  Or, perhaps it is simply impossible to go there.  How should I know?   Do you think I have access to all top secret files, or that I can read people's minds or something?  You people have been making increasingly unreasonable demands lately.  Is it because you have run out of ammo for your round Earth theory?

I can tell you first hand, that no such edge exists, as I have been to antarctica. If it is impossible to reach this end; explain. I would love to know the magic mumbo jumbo you blame it on. And, this is your theory, not mine. I expect you to be able to explain the simplest parts of your theory; ie Where is the edge. You people have been making increasingly unreasonable demands lately.  Is it because you have run out of ammo for your flat Earth theory?

Really? You went to Antarctica? Cool! You saw that coming didnt you? I know, but I couldn't resist. But seriously you really went to the South Pole?

Yes, It Was an amazing experience, however, it was very cold . My friend was rich and he was going on a holiday there, and invited me over.

Alaska is the coldest place I been to. And I've been there for 8 years.

So, uh, the oxygen travels to the edge of the world and freezes. Cool. This would be a constant process, and eventually, we'd be out of oxygen, for you haven't explained how we get any of it back. Either way, I'm fine. You see, I'm an Anaerobic being so I don't need your oxygen. Who cares what happens to it?

So, uh, the oxygen travels to the edge of the world and freezes. Cool. This would be a constant process, and eventually, we'd be out of oxygen, for you haven't explained how we get any of it back. Either way, I'm fine. You see, I'm an Anaerobic being so I don't need your oxygen. Who cares what happens to it?

Can't believe I didn't thought of that before. Boy, you're on the ball.

Quote from: sokarul on December 10, 2015, 08:05:06 PM

Ever heard of a phase diagram?

You ever heard of a sh**post?

What do those have to do with phase diagrams?

Quote from: ThiswholesiteisBS on December 11, 2015, 05:37:08 PM

So, uh, the oxygen travels to the edge of the world and freezes. Cool. This would be a constant process, and eventually, we'd be out of oxygen, for you haven't explained how we get any of it back. Either way, I'm fine. You see, I'm an Anaerobic being so I don't need your oxygen. Who cares what happens to it?

Can't believe I didn't thought of that before. Boy, you're on the ball.

Oxygen turns to liquid at -183 C.
Nitrogen turns to liquid at -196 C.
Since the air is 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen, is there a bunch of liquid nitrogen just beyond the liquid oxygen?

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on December 11, 2015, 05:40:24 PM

Quote from: ThiswholesiteisBS on December 11, 2015, 05:37:08 PM

So, uh, the oxygen travels to the edge of the world and freezes. Cool. This would be a constant process, and eventually, we'd be out of oxygen, for you haven't explained how we get any of it back. Either way, I'm fine. You see, I'm an Anaerobic being so I don't need your oxygen. Who cares what happens to it?

Can't believe I didn't thought of that before. Boy, you're on the ball.

Oxygen turns to liquid at -183 C.
Nitrogen turns to liquid at -196 C.
Since the air is 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen, is there a bunch of liquid nitrogen just beyond the liquid oxygen?

Plus, I don't understand how the air gets there in the first place.

The only thing I can figure is that there's a downward vertical  wind that blows down like a fan and pushes the air there.

The only thing I can figure is that there's a downward vertices wind that blows down like a fan and pushes the air there.

But then that wind will fight against the "aether wind" that create "gravity" A wind that powerful would definitely interfere with that.

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on December 11, 2015, 07:34:40 PM

The only thing I can figure is that there's a downward vertices wind that blows down like a fan and pushes the air there.

But then that wind will fight against the "aether wind" that create "gravity" A wind that powerful would definitely interfere with that.

Wait, how? Aren't both of those winds will be pointing down on earth?

Quote from: wonkaswilly12 on December 11, 2015, 07:36:47 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on December 11, 2015, 07:34:40 PM

The only thing I can figure is that there's a downward vertices wind that blows down like a fan and pushes the air there.

But then that wind will fight against the "aether wind" that create "gravity" A wind that powerful would definitely interfere with that.

Wait, how? Aren't both of those winds will be pointing down on earth?

As far as I know the aether wind pushes The earth up. But if both were pushing down on one side, the other would have no gravity. Thats a loophole you should think about

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on December 11, 2015, 07:38:59 PM

Quote from: wonkaswilly12 on December 11, 2015, 07:36:47 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on December 11, 2015, 07:34:40 PM

The only thing I can figure is that there's a downward vertices wind that blows down like a fan and pushes the air there.

But then that wind will fight against the "aether wind" that create "gravity" A wind that powerful would definitely interfere with that.

Wait, how? Aren't both of those winds will be pointing down on earth?

As far as I know the aether wind pushes The earth up. But if both were pushing down on one side, the other would have no gravity. Thats a loophole you should think about

Oh, I get it now, thanks. I think IF the earth was flat then the best explanation for why we have air is because there's a dome above us and its keeping it in like a snow globe.

Quote from: wonkaswilly12 on December 11, 2015, 07:40:27 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on December 11, 2015, 07:38:59 PM

Quote from: wonkaswilly12 on December 11, 2015, 07:36:47 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on December 11, 2015, 07:34:40 PM

The only thing I can figure is that there's a downward vertices wind that blows down like a fan and pushes the air there.

But then that wind will fight against the "aether wind" that create "gravity" A wind that powerful would definitely interfere with that.

Wait, how? Aren't both of those winds will be pointing down on earth?

As far as I know the aether wind pushes The earth up. But if both were pushing down on one side, the other would have no gravity. Thats a loophole you should think about

Oh, I get it now, thanks. I think IF the earth was flat then the best explanation for why we have air is because there's a dome above us and its keeping it in like a snow globe.

Jroa already had a go at someone for saying that, and he believes in FE. He will probably ride this idea now that someone said it. The "dome theory" Is a completely different theory altogether.

Can't believe I didn't thought of that before. Boy, you're on the ball.

That's funny, because we are "on the ball"!

If there was a "dome" above then that has another set of problems. If the dome was clear then the dome will refract light to the other side of the globe causing a nightlight effect, whether the sun was outside or inside the dome. I'll see if I can find a video explaining it.

Funny how jroa and other FE"ers have stopped posting

I'm hoping this is it. It's 20 minutes long so I don't know. If nothing it disprove a lot of the other stuff in FET.

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Can't believe I didn't thought of that before. Boy, you're on the ball.

That's funny, because we are "on the ball"!

Lol, I made a joke without realizing it.

Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 07:55:24 PM

My theory is that, as you move towards the edge, the temperature continually drops.  Eventually, the temperature reaches the point where different gasses turn into liquid and simply precipitate out of the air.  This liquid simply pools and turns into streams that flow back towards the warmer regions, where it evaporates into a gas again and the cycle continues.  In this model, by the time you would reach the edge, it is so cold that there is no atmoplane.

Do you have any evidence for this?

Are you saying that it does not get colder as you move rimward?

Quote from: Kirk Johnson on December 11, 2015, 02:26:10 PM

Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 07:55:24 PM

My theory is that, as you move towards the edge, the temperature continually drops.  Eventually, the temperature reaches the point where different gasses turn into liquid and simply precipitate out of the air.  This liquid simply pools and turns into streams that flow back towards the warmer regions, where it evaporates into a gas again and the cycle continues.  In this model, by the time you would reach the edge, it is so cold that there is no atmoplane.

Do you have any evidence for this?

Are you saying that it does not get colder as you move rimward?

At first, yes. But after a while it get hotter again, then it will get really hot, then it will get cold again, then really cold, then it will get hot and hotter again, then it will get colder again and now you have circumnavigated the earth through the poles.

Quote from: Kirk Johnson on December 11, 2015, 02:26:10 PM

Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 07:55:24 PM

My theory is that, as you move towards the edge, the temperature continually drops.  Eventually, the temperature reaches the point where different gasses turn into liquid and simply precipitate out of the air.  This liquid simply pools and turns into streams that flow back towards the warmer regions, where it evaporates into a gas again and the cycle continues.  In this model, by the time you would reach the edge, it is so cold that there is no atmoplane.

Do you have any evidence for this?

Are you saying that it does not get colder as you move rimward?

Are you completely ignore everything we just said? There would be no reason for the oxygen to actually move to the outer rim, Absolute zero isn't cold enough to liquefy oxygen! Liquid oxygen has a density of 1.141 g/cm3 (1.141 kg/L or 1141 kg/m3) and is cryogenic with a freezing point of 54.36 K (−218.79 °C; −361.82 °F) It will liquefy at -183 °C. Meaning that If someone were to travel there, It would be so cold, they would most likely die. Plus, The only theory someone could work out on how the oxygen would get there is that wind 'pushes it down, which in turn would interfere with your 'aether wind', so Your theory is completely bunk. Now if someone can give a theory with some premise, That would be nice!

Quote from: jroa on December 11, 2015, 11:56:20 PM

Quote from: Kirk Johnson on December 11, 2015, 02:26:10 PM

Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 07:55:24 PM

My theory is that, as you move towards the edge, the temperature continually drops.  Eventually, the temperature reaches the point where different gasses turn into liquid and simply precipitate out of the air.  This liquid simply pools and turns into streams that flow back towards the warmer regions, where it evaporates into a gas again and the cycle continues.  In this model, by the time you would reach the edge, it is so cold that there is no atmoplane.

Do you have any evidence for this?

Are you saying that it does not get colder as you move rimward?

Are you completely ignore everything we just said? There would be no reason for the oxygen to actually move to the outer rim, Absolute zero isn't cold enough to liquefy oxygen! Liquid oxygen has a density of 1.141 g/cm3 (1.141 kg/L or 1141 kg/m3) and is cryogenic with a freezing point of 54.36 K (−218.79 °C; −361.82 °F) It will liquefy at -183 °C. Meaning that If someone were to travel there, It would be so cold, they would most likely die. Plus, The only theory someone could work out on how the oxygen would get there is that wind 'pushes it down, which in turn would interfere with your 'aether wind', so Your theory is completely bunk. Now if someone can give a theory with some premise, That would be nice!

News flash for you; absolute zero is colder than both 54 K and -183 °C. 

Funny how jroa and other FE"ers have stopped posting

Funny how you think this is my full time job or that I have no life or that I never sleep.

Quote from: wonkaswilly12 on December 12, 2015, 02:48:38 AM

Quote from: jroa on December 11, 2015, 11:56:20 PM

Quote from: Kirk Johnson on December 11, 2015, 02:26:10 PM

Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 07:55:24 PM

My theory is that, as you move towards the edge, the temperature continually drops.  Eventually, the temperature reaches the point where different gasses turn into liquid and simply precipitate out of the air.  This liquid simply pools and turns into streams that flow back towards the warmer regions, where it evaporates into a gas again and the cycle continues.  In this model, by the time you would reach the edge, it is so cold that there is no atmoplane.

Do you have any evidence for this?

Are you saying that it does not get colder as you move rimward?

Are you completely ignore everything we just said? There would be no reason for the oxygen to actually move to the outer rim, Absolute zero isn't cold enough to liquefy oxygen! Liquid oxygen has a density of 1.141 g/cm3 (1.141 kg/L or 1141 kg/m3) and is cryogenic with a freezing point of 54.36 K (−218.79 °C; −361.82 °F) It will liquefy at -183 °C. Meaning that If someone were to travel there, It would be so cold, they would most likely die. Plus, The only theory someone could work out on how the oxygen would get there is that wind 'pushes it down, which in turn would interfere with your 'aether wind', so Your theory is completely bunk. Now if someone can give a theory with some premise, That would be nice!

News flash for you; absolute zero is colder than both 54 K and -183 °C. 

Yes, btw absolute zero is theoretically impossible, and even If it did get that cold, The liquid would freeze instantly, meaning that the oxygen wouldn't be able to flow back to the mainland, also, still no explanation as to why the oxygen get there.

  At the physically impossible-to-reach temperature of zero kelvin, or minus 459.67 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 273.15 degrees Celsius), atoms would stop moving. As such, nothing can be colder than absolute zero on the Kelvin scale. So You are saying simply moving away from the sun makes it so cold. The sun is 5,778 K, So unless you are saying the sun isn't that hot, It wouldn't be absolute zero.

TL;DR: Still no explanation for the oxygen getting there
            It couldn't get that cold