Killer Asteroids

An interesting question occurred to me...

Since FE models do not believe in outer space, should we be worrying about killer asteroids and comets (like Halley's comet) hitting the Earth?

Since space is sooo big and these are sooo small (actually a 1 km asteroid is quite big and can destroy massive amounts of life on Earth but in space at a distance of 10,000,000's km, it is next to nothing) and dim (mag ~18+, some are dark so they really need to be close to see them), the astronomical community has telescopes with CCD cameras and computers sweeping the sky looking for "Pluto" - asteroids whose orbits may hit Earth. This is an area of astronomy where amateur astronomers can really help around the world running their telescopes all night. (http://www.space.com/13272-asteroid-discovery-amateur-astronomers-2011-sf108.html) and (http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/)

Per FE, asteroids are just 5000 km up and tiny or at best somehow come from under the single disk and create craters on Earth. Is there really nothing to worry about? Are we wasting our time?

Should everyone on Earth rely on FE - outer space (and killer asteroids) don't exist? If one actually is going to hit the Earth and destroy us, will you drop your FE models? Will it be too late to say "sorry" or "ooops"? I bet you will believe in NASA and its pictures...

Furthermore, are FEers comfortable with potentially being responsible for killing millions or billions of people if their FE models are wrong?

An interesting question occurred to me...
Since FE models do not believe in outer space, should we be worrying about killer asteroids and comets (like Halley's comet) hitting the Earth?

Nope, nothing to worry about. They're just hydrogen ice falls from a build up. Like Icicles do down here or hail stones, only much larger up higher.

Since space is sooo big and these are sooo small (actually a 1 km asteroid is quite big and can destroy massive amounts of life on Earth but in space at a distance of 10,000,000's km,

Space does not exist. What you see is under the dome you're a prisoner under.

it is next to nothing) and dim (mag ~18+, some are dark so they really need to be close to see them), the astronomical community has telescopes with CCD cameras and computers sweeping the sky looking for "Pluto" - asteroids whose orbits may hit Earth.

Sweeping the sky if fine but that's it. What is seen is what is inside this dome.

This is an area of astronomy where amateur astronomers can really help around the world running their telescopes all night.
 (http://www.space.com/13272-asteroid-discovery-amateur-astronomers-2011-sf108.html) and (http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/)

They will only see what's inside Earth under this dome.

Per FE, asteroids are just 5000 km up and tiny or at best somehow come from under the single disk and create craters on Earth. Is there really nothing to worry about? Are we wasting our time?

Nothing to worry about as far as chunks of rock are concerned unless you find yourself under a landslide of loose rocks on mountains/hills.

Should everyone on Earth rely on FE - outer space (and killer asteroids) don't exist?

Think what you like. If you believe they exist then worry about them. Also worry about the star ship enterprise veering off course and landing on your house after a burn up.

If one actually is going to hit the Earth and destroy us, will you drop your FE models?

It's  not going to happen.

Will it be too late to say "sorry" or "ooops"? I bet you will believe in NASA and its pictures...

NASA pictures of space rockets and space exploits, are all rigged up bullshit.

Furthermore, are FEers comfortable with potentially being responsible for killing millions or billions of people if their FE models are wrong?

The only thing that will be responsible for killing millions or billions is disease or natural causes over time.

sceptimatic, if asteroids don't exist, then explain the hundreds of crater sites across the world which, you can go and visit yourself.

So the short answer is no, there is nothing to fear.

When my children were young, I told them one of the differences between an adult and a child is that adults consider the consequences of their actions. I don't believe FEers do.

If FE models were just fantasy - World of Warcraft, Star Trek, Lord of the Rings, or Harry Potter, no problem. But these FE models are argued to be REAL. Some idiot politician may actually believe in them. Since there is no outer space, he might cancel funding for searching for killer asteroids. If you want a conspiracy, it is actually LIKELY, that if such an asteroid existed, governments would try to destroy or knock it out of the way so as to not cause panic to the general public - they would keep it secret. Working for a big company during Y2K, I can tell you, from personal experience, problems were hidden.

This also goes for satellites - meaning defensive/offensive satellites like those around the USA and probably the world. If just some people/countries believe in FE, are they really willing to risk their security when say Russia, China, or some Islamic countries probably do not. If FE is wrong, do FEers really want the responsibility for the consequences? If you had your way - would you get rid of or not launch any satellites?

Sorry folks, I deal with REALITY and not FANTASY. Even IF RET were wrong (the way FE is), I would rather err on the side of caution rather than throwing caution to the wind. Because FEers are pushing these FE models as reality, I believe FE fantasies are really dangerous to mankind across the planet. FEers are being totally irresponsible and wreckless. THAT is dangerous.

What I really hate is all the people I hear saying "sorry". I don't want you to be "sorry". I want people to be cognizant of the consequences (being an adult) of their actions and beliefs BEFORE they become REALITY.

I have a thread about craters. The only thing I got were some words - UA, Aetherial whirlpools and Dark Energy - that jroa spouted off (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=64845.40#.VmCdq3arSUk) - just so answers. If you don't know how craters are formed on Earth, how can you possibly say there aren't killer asteroids?  By Region - (http://www.snipview.com/q/Impact_craters_on_Earth_by_region)

Well said Jadyyn.

Looks like H.A.A.R.P.  or Operation Fishbowl, knocked a huge chunk of the dome off. Dang haters.
Should be fair though, could be a sink hole or collapsed volcano. I like that better!

Looks like H.A.A.R.P.  or Operation Fishbowl, knocked a huge chunk of the dome off. Dang haters.
Should be fair though, could be a sink hole or collapsed volcano. I like that better!

*grunt*

Bud, this is what a sinkhole is:



Does that look like a crater from a meteor, at all!?

Does that look like a crater from a meteor, at all!?

No sir, I must say it does not. But we must never judge a book by it's cover. Looks can be deceiving.
Too many variables to be considered.

I have a thread about craters. The only thing I got were some words - UA, Aetherial whirlpools and Dark Energy - that jroa spouted off (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=64845.40#.VmCdq3arSUk) - just so answers.

Ah, openly ignoring and outright lying about the DE answers as ever I see.

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 01:25:16 PM

Does that look like a crater from a meteor, at all!?

No sir, I must say it does not. But we must never judge a book by it's cover. Looks can be deceiving.
Too many variables to be considered.

Alright, how do you explain this? Around impact sites, chunks of metal, like iron or very rarely, iridium, have been found scattered around the impacts sites in patterns that suggest a large impact. How do you have explain this?

Is this "magical dome" now somehow made of every possible element?

Quote from: Frank Lee on December 03, 2015, 01:40:18 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 01:25:16 PM

Does that look like a crater from a meteor, at all!?

No sir, I must say it does not. But we must never judge a book by it's cover. Looks can be deceiving.
Too many variables to be considered.

Alright, how do you explain this? Around impact sites, chunks of metal, like iron or very rarely, iridium, have been found scattered around the impacts sites in patterns that suggest a large impact. How do you have explain this?

Is this "magical dome" now somehow made of every possible element?

Volcanoes?

sceptimatic, if asteroids don't exist, then explain the hundreds of crater sites across the world which, you can go and visit yourself.

They are natural subsidence of land that was once filled with water and dried out as the climate altered, as it always will.

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 11:36:16 AM

sceptimatic, if asteroids don't exist, then explain the hundreds of crater sites across the world which, you can go and visit yourself.

They are natural subsidence of land that was once filled with water and dried out as the climate altered, as it always will.

Yes, but how do they form. It's not magic.

Quote from: Frank Lee on December 03, 2015, 01:40:18 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 01:25:16 PM

Does that look like a crater from a meteor, at all!?

No sir, I must say it does not. But we must never judge a book by it's cover. Looks can be deceiving.
Too many variables to be considered.

Alright, how do you explain this? Around impact sites, chunks of metal, like iron or very rarely, iridium, have been found scattered around the impacts sites in patterns that suggest a large impact. How do you have explain this?

Is this "magical dome" now somehow made of every possible element?

Take a look at that supposed meteor crater and consider what we are told about the destruction that would be caused by something as large as that, coming in at X amount of thousands of miles per hour.
Do you seriously believe it would only make a hole that big?

Quote from: sceptimatic on December 03, 2015, 02:09:35 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 11:36:16 AM

sceptimatic, if asteroids don't exist, then explain the hundreds of crater sites across the world which, you can go and visit yourself.

They are natural subsidence of land that was once filled with water and dried out as the climate altered, as it always will.

Yes, but how do they form. It's not magic.

Way back in history, that land may have been flooded and the ground may have been a large mound that simply sunk due to porous ground underneath or something to that effect.
Obviously it's a guess but it's no meteor crater because they don't exist in how we are told.

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 01:51:57 PM

Quote from: Frank Lee on December 03, 2015, 01:40:18 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 01:25:16 PM

Does that look like a crater from a meteor, at all!?

No sir, I must say it does not. But we must never judge a book by it's cover. Looks can be deceiving.
Too many variables to be considered.

Alright, how do you explain this? Around impact sites, chunks of metal, like iron or very rarely, iridium, have been found scattered around the impacts sites in patterns that suggest a large impact. How do you have explain this?

Is this "magical dome" now somehow made of every possible element?

Volcanoes?

No. I know what you're thinking, but crater volcanoes look like the following:




Now, there are many things wrong with assuming that volcanoes like these are what all these supposed craters are:

1. Crater volcanoes always have hillsides surrounding them. Almost all craters do not:
2. There needs to be tectonic activity in the area for there to be a volcano. There isn't tectonic activity in many places where there are craters, for example, Arizona.
3. There would be noticeable things that would provide evidence for a volcano, namely things like magma tunnels, magma, if it's active, etc. Discovered craters do not have these things.

There are more, but these three are pretty solid disproofs of your assumption.

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 01:51:57 PM

Quote from: Frank Lee on December 03, 2015, 01:40:18 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 01:25:16 PM

Does that look like a crater from a meteor, at all!?

No sir, I must say it does not. But we must never judge a book by it's cover. Looks can be deceiving.
Too many variables to be considered.

Alright, how do you explain this? Around impact sites, chunks of metal, like iron or very rarely, iridium, have been found scattered around the impacts sites in patterns that suggest a large impact. How do you have explain this?

Is this "magical dome" now somehow made of every possible element?

Take a look at that supposed meteor crater and consider what we are told about the destruction that would be caused by something as large as that, coming in at X amount of thousands of miles per hour.
Do you seriously believe it would only make a hole that big?

Meteor crater is not small. It's 1.1 kilometers (0.7 miles) across and about 170 meters (560 feet) deep. The meteor that struck the surface had a diameter of only, and came it at the speed of, wait for it...

50 meters (160 feet)
12.8 kilometers per second (28,000 miles per hour)

That's a lot of energy.

---

For a rock that small, the crater it made is huge. I don't know why you think that the meteor that impacted there was some huge "mile-big" asteroid, but that's not the case.

No. I know what you're thinking, but crater volcanoes look like the following:

Now, there are many things wrong with assuming that volcanoes like these are what all these supposed craters are:

1. Crater volcanoes always have hillsides surrounding them. Almost all craters do not:
2. There needs to be tectonic activity in the area for there to be a volcano. There isn't tectonic activity in many places where there are craters, for example, Arizona.
3. There would be noticeable things that would provide evidence for a volcano, namely things like magma tunnels, magma, if it's active, etc. Discovered craters do not have these things.

There are more, but these three are pretty solid disproofs of your assumption.

Well the earth is how many million/billion years old? We can not presume to know the earths makeup before the creation man, fell. The was no such thing as time (as we know it)  back then. No one can know.
The landscape would have seen many changes also.

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 02:22:29 PM

No. I know what you're thinking, but crater volcanoes look like the following:

Now, there are many things wrong with assuming that volcanoes like these are what all these supposed craters are:

1. Crater volcanoes always have hillsides surrounding them. Almost all craters do not:
2. There needs to be tectonic activity in the area for there to be a volcano. There isn't tectonic activity in many places where there are craters, for example, Arizona.
3. There would be noticeable things that would provide evidence for a volcano, namely things like magma tunnels, magma, if it's active, etc. Discovered craters do not have these things.

There are more, but these three are pretty solid disproofs of your assumption.

Well the earth is how many million/billion years old? We can not presume to know the earths makeup before the creation man, fell. The was no such thing as time (as we know it)  back then. No one can know.
The landscape would have seen many changes also.

4.6 billion years old. We know this because we can measure how radioactive substances decay over time. It's not just some "assumption".

Now, stop trying to derail the thread because I disproved you.

Quote from: Frank Lee on December 03, 2015, 02:30:34 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 02:22:29 PM

No. I know what you're thinking, but crater volcanoes look like the following:

Now, there are many things wrong with assuming that volcanoes like these are what all these supposed craters are:

1. Crater volcanoes always have hillsides surrounding them. Almost all craters do not:
2. There needs to be tectonic activity in the area for there to be a volcano. There isn't tectonic activity in many places where there are craters, for example, Arizona.
3. There would be noticeable things that would provide evidence for a volcano, namely things like magma tunnels, magma, if it's active, etc. Discovered craters do not have these things.

There are more, but these three are pretty solid disproofs of your assumption.

Well the earth is how many million/billion years old? We can not presume to know the earths makeup before the creation man, fell. The was no such thing as time (as we know it)  back then. No one can know.
The landscape would have seen many changes also.

4.6 billion years old. We know this because we can measure how radioactive substances decay over time. It's not just some "assumption".

Now, stop trying to derail the thread because I disproved you.

My apologies if derailment is suspected. I shall relent.

Quote from: sceptimatic on December 03, 2015, 02:15:35 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 01:51:57 PM

Quote from: Frank Lee on December 03, 2015, 01:40:18 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 01:25:16 PM

Does that look like a crater from a meteor, at all!?

No sir, I must say it does not. But we must never judge a book by it's cover. Looks can be deceiving.
Too many variables to be considered.

Alright, how do you explain this? Around impact sites, chunks of metal, like iron or very rarely, iridium, have been found scattered around the impacts sites in patterns that suggest a large impact. How do you have explain this?

Is this "magical dome" now somehow made of every possible element?

Take a look at that supposed meteor crater and consider what we are told about the destruction that would be caused by something as large as that, coming in at X amount of thousands of miles per hour.
Do you seriously believe it would only make a hole that big?

Meteor crater is not small. It's 1.1 kilometers (0.7 miles) across and about 170 meters (560 feet) deep. The meteor that struck the surface had a diameter of only, and came it at the speed of, wait for it...

50 meters (160 feet)
12.8 kilometers per second (28,000 miles per hour)

That's a lot of energy.

---

For a rock that small, the crater it made is huge. I don't know why you think that the meteor that impacted there was some huge "mile-big" asteroid, but that's not the case.

If you want to believe that we are a sitting duck for asteroids and what not, then be my guest.
It's amazing how many miss us and are headed for us and yet we never get hit by anything except a few pockets of news about silliness.

The most you need to worry about in terms of falling sky debris, are hail stones or a frozen stowaway falling from a plane or a plane itself - or helicopter. You know, things like that.

Meteors?
Sleep well and stop worrying about bullshit that the  media put out to scare you with.

Quote from: Frank Lee on December 03, 2015, 02:30:34 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 02:22:29 PM

No. I know what you're thinking, but crater volcanoes look like the following:

Now, there are many things wrong with assuming that volcanoes like these are what all these supposed craters are:

1. Crater volcanoes always have hillsides surrounding them. Almost all craters do not:
2. There needs to be tectonic activity in the area for there to be a volcano. There isn't tectonic activity in many places where there are craters, for example, Arizona.
3. There would be noticeable things that would provide evidence for a volcano, namely things like magma tunnels, magma, if it's active, etc. Discovered craters do not have these things.

There are more, but these three are pretty solid disproofs of your assumption.

Well the earth is how many million/billion years old? We can not presume to know the earths makeup before the creation man, fell. The was no such thing as time (as we know it)  back then. No one can know.
The landscape would have seen many changes also.

4.6 billion years old. We know this because we can measure how radioactive substances decay over time. It's not just some "assumption".

Now, stop trying to derail the thread because I disproved you.

I made a thread in the science section if you want to talk about the age of the earth. I'm sorry if I'm advertising my own thread.

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 02:29:47 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on December 03, 2015, 02:15:35 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 01:51:57 PM

Quote from: Frank Lee on December 03, 2015, 01:40:18 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 01:25:16 PM

Does that look like a crater from a meteor, at all!?

No sir, I must say it does not. But we must never judge a book by it's cover. Looks can be deceiving.
Too many variables to be considered.

Alright, how do you explain this? Around impact sites, chunks of metal, like iron or very rarely, iridium, have been found scattered around the impacts sites in patterns that suggest a large impact. How do you have explain this?

Is this "magical dome" now somehow made of every possible element?

Take a look at that supposed meteor crater and consider what we are told about the destruction that would be caused by something as large as that, coming in at X amount of thousands of miles per hour.
Do you seriously believe it would only make a hole that big?

Meteor crater is not small. It's 1.1 kilometers (0.7 miles) across and about 170 meters (560 feet) deep. The meteor that struck the surface had a diameter of only, and came it at the speed of, wait for it...

50 meters (160 feet)
12.8 kilometers per second (28,000 miles per hour)

That's a lot of energy.

---

For a rock that small, the crater it made is huge. I don't know why you think that the meteor that impacted there was some huge "mile-big" asteroid, but that's not the case.

If you want to believe that we are a sitting duck for asteroids and what not, then be my guest.
It's amazing how many miss us and are headed for us and yet we never get hit by anything except a few pockets of news about silliness.

The most you need to worry about in terms of falling sky debris, are hail stones or a frozen stowaway falling from a plane or a plane itself - or helicopter. You know, things like that.

Meteors?
Sleep well and stop worrying about bullshit that the  media put out to scare you with.

Of course they exist. The reason we don't get hit by them often is because they're millions, even billions of miles apart, and their prevalence in our region of the solar system is extremely low. Why don't you do your research and learn the science behind this stuff rather than resorting to the stupid argument of "hurr it's just a media trick durr".

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 02:33:09 PM

Quote from: Frank Lee on December 03, 2015, 02:30:34 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 02:22:29 PM

No. I know what you're thinking, but crater volcanoes look like the following:

Now, there are many things wrong with assuming that volcanoes like these are what all these supposed craters are:

1. Crater volcanoes always have hillsides surrounding them. Almost all craters do not:
2. There needs to be tectonic activity in the area for there to be a volcano. There isn't tectonic activity in many places where there are craters, for example, Arizona.
3. There would be noticeable things that would provide evidence for a volcano, namely things like magma tunnels, magma, if it's active, etc. Discovered craters do not have these things.

There are more, but these three are pretty solid disproofs of your assumption.

Well the earth is how many million/billion years old? We can not presume to know the earths makeup before the creation man, fell. The was no such thing as time (as we know it)  back then. No one can know.
The landscape would have seen many changes also.

4.6 billion years old. We know this because we can measure how radioactive substances decay over time. It's not just some "assumption".

Now, stop trying to derail the thread because I disproved you.

I made a thread in the science section if you want to talk about the age of the earth. I'm sorry if I'm advertising my own thread.

That's okay. Could you PM me the link? I might post there later.

Quote from: sceptimatic on December 03, 2015, 03:43:40 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 02:29:47 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on December 03, 2015, 02:15:35 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 01:51:57 PM

Quote from: Frank Lee on December 03, 2015, 01:40:18 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 01:25:16 PM

Does that look like a crater from a meteor, at all!?

No sir, I must say it does not. But we must never judge a book by it's cover. Looks can be deceiving.
Too many variables to be considered.

Alright, how do you explain this? Around impact sites, chunks of metal, like iron or very rarely, iridium, have been found scattered around the impacts sites in patterns that suggest a large impact. How do you have explain this?

Is this "magical dome" now somehow made of every possible element?

Take a look at that supposed meteor crater and consider what we are told about the destruction that would be caused by something as large as that, coming in at X amount of thousands of miles per hour.
Do you seriously believe it would only make a hole that big?

Meteor crater is not small. It's 1.1 kilometers (0.7 miles) across and about 170 meters (560 feet) deep. The meteor that struck the surface had a diameter of only, and came it at the speed of, wait for it...

50 meters (160 feet)
12.8 kilometers per second (28,000 miles per hour)

That's a lot of energy.

---

For a rock that small, the crater it made is huge. I don't know why you think that the meteor that impacted there was some huge "mile-big" asteroid, but that's not the case.

If you want to believe that we are a sitting duck for asteroids and what not, then be my guest.
It's amazing how many miss us and are headed for us and yet we never get hit by anything except a few pockets of news about silliness.

The most you need to worry about in terms of falling sky debris, are hail stones or a frozen stowaway falling from a plane or a plane itself - or helicopter. You know, things like that.

Meteors?
Sleep well and stop worrying about bullshit that the  media put out to scare you with.

Of course they exist. The reason we don't get hit by them often is because they're millions, even billions of miles apart, and their prevalence in our region of the solar system is extremely low. Why don't you do your research and learn the science behind this stuff rather than resorting to the stupid argument of "hurr it's just a media trick durr".

Now let's not start insulting each other. This is the debate thread not AR. However I definitely agree with you. Not everything nowadays can just be a media trick, we have evidence of craters showing the impact of extraterrestrial objects.

@sceptimatic The term you're looking for is meteorite, which is a meteor that has reached earths surface. Meteors on the other hand usually burn up within Earth's atmosphere and never make it to the ground.

Of course they exist. The reason we don't get hit by them often is because they're millions, even billions of miles apart, and their prevalence in our region of the solar system is extremely low. Why don't you do your research and learn the science behind this stuff rather than resorting to the stupid argument of "hurr it's just a media trick durr".

The reason we don't get hit by them is very simple. They are not  rocks in frigging space.
All this billions and trillions of miles crap is embarrassing but people still swallow it hook line and sinker.

What a scary bunch of creatures we are, as human beings.
Put out a newsflash that a meteor was headed towards Earth and was going to hit in 3 days; you would not see too many families making the most of it all by hugging or gathering. You would see a basic breakdown of society and the mental capacity of even the most apparently intelligent people go into survival mode and looting mode, or even animalistic kill mode.

Then when the time arrives and no Earth smashing meteor hits; you can be told that a new weapon deflected it and you're now safe but those who caused mayhem will pay the price.

Me? I'd be eating normally in the home, knowing that this story would pan out just like I've said...or close to that.

Deal with reality. You're trapped in a comfortable domed prison. You don't get out and nothing gets in.
You simply decay like all bacteria and also similar bacteria to you, grow.

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 03:58:41 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on December 03, 2015, 03:43:40 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 02:29:47 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on December 03, 2015, 02:15:35 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 01:51:57 PM

Quote from: Frank Lee on December 03, 2015, 01:40:18 PM

Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 03, 2015, 01:25:16 PM

Does that look like a crater from a meteor, at all!?

No sir, I must say it does not. But we must never judge a book by it's cover. Looks can be deceiving.
Too many variables to be considered.

Alright, how do you explain this? Around impact sites, chunks of metal, like iron or very rarely, iridium, have been found scattered around the impacts sites in patterns that suggest a large impact. How do you have explain this?

Is this "magical dome" now somehow made of every possible element?

Take a look at that supposed meteor crater and consider what we are told about the destruction that would be caused by something as large as that, coming in at X amount of thousands of miles per hour.
Do you seriously believe it would only make a hole that big?

Meteor crater is not small. It's 1.1 kilometers (0.7 miles) across and about 170 meters (560 feet) deep. The meteor that struck the surface had a diameter of only, and came it at the speed of, wait for it...

50 meters (160 feet)
12.8 kilometers per second (28,000 miles per hour)

That's a lot of energy.

---

For a rock that small, the crater it made is huge. I don't know why you think that the meteor that impacted there was some huge "mile-big" asteroid, but that's not the case.

If you want to believe that we are a sitting duck for asteroids and what not, then be my guest.
It's amazing how many miss us and are headed for us and yet we never get hit by anything except a few pockets of news about silliness.

The most you need to worry about in terms of falling sky debris, are hail stones or a frozen stowaway falling from a plane or a plane itself - or helicopter. You know, things like that.

Meteors?
Sleep well and stop worrying about bullshit that the  media put out to scare you with.

Of course they exist. The reason we don't get hit by them often is because they're millions, even billions of miles apart, and their prevalence in our region of the solar system is extremely low. Why don't you do your research and learn the science behind this stuff rather than resorting to the stupid argument of "hurr it's just a media trick durr".

Now let's not start insulting each other. This is the debate thread not AR. However I definitely agree with you. Not everything nowadays can just be a media trick, we have evidence of craters showing the impact of extraterrestrial objects.

@sceptimatic The term you're looking for is meteorite, which is a meteor that has reached earths surface. Meteors on the other hand usually burn up within Earth's atmosphere and never make it to the ground.

Do you not find it odd that Felix Baumgartner can supposedly free fall from 128,000 feet and not feel a thing due to it being as close to a vacuum as to be called it and yet meteors burn up as they enter the atmosphere.
Do you not think that's odd?

Maybe not, eh?
I do.

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Does that look like a crater from a meteor, at all!?

No sir, I must say it does not. But we must never judge a book by it's cover. Looks can be deceiving.
Too many variables to be considered.

Alright, how do you explain this? Around impact sites, chunks of metal, like iron or very rarely, iridium, have been found scattered around the impacts sites in patterns that suggest a large impact. How do you have explain this?

Is this "magical dome" now somehow made of every possible element?

Take a look at that supposed meteor crater and consider what we are told about the destruction that would be caused by something as large as that, coming in at X amount of thousands of miles per hour.
Do you seriously believe it would only make a hole that big?

Meteor crater is not small. It's 1.1 kilometers (0.7 miles) across and about 170 meters (560 feet) deep. The meteor that struck the surface had a diameter of only, and came it at the speed of, wait for it...

50 meters (160 feet)
12.8 kilometers per second (28,000 miles per hour)

That's a lot of energy.

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For a rock that small, the crater it made is huge. I don't know why you think that the meteor that impacted there was some huge "mile-big" asteroid, but that's not the case.

If you want to believe that we are a sitting duck for asteroids and what not, then be my guest.
It's amazing how many miss us and are headed for us and yet we never get hit by anything except a few pockets of news about silliness.

The most you need to worry about in terms of falling sky debris, are hail stones or a frozen stowaway falling from a plane or a plane itself - or helicopter. You know, things like that.

Meteors?
Sleep well and stop worrying about bullshit that the  media put out to scare you with.

Of course they exist. The reason we don't get hit by them often is because they're millions, even billions of miles apart, and their prevalence in our region of the solar system is extremely low. Why don't you do your research and learn the science behind this stuff rather than resorting to the stupid argument of "hurr it's just a media trick durr".

Now let's not start insulting each other. This is the debate thread not AR. However I definitely agree with you. Not everything nowadays can just be a media trick, we have evidence of craters showing the impact of extraterrestrial objects.

@sceptimatic The term you're looking for is meteorite, which is a meteor that has reached earths surface. Meteors on the other hand usually burn up within Earth's atmosphere and never make it to the ground.

Do you not find it odd that Felix Baumgartner can supposedly free fall from 128,000 feet and not feel a thing due to it being as close to a vacuum as to be called it and yet meteors burn up as they enter the atmosphere.
Do you not think that's odd?

Maybe not, eh?
I do.

How stupid are you? Felix Baumgarter, at his fastest, was moving at about 800 miles per hour. When meteors enter the atmosphere, they're moving at speeds upwards of 30,000 miles per hour. If you did your damn research and actually knew something about what you were trying to refute then you wouldn't bother making this retarded point.

How stupid are you? Felix Baumgarter, at his fastest, was moving at about 800 miles per hour. When meteors enter the atmosphere, they're moving at speeds upwards of 30,000 miles per hour. If you did your damn research and actually knew something about what you were trying to refute then you wouldn't bother making this retarded point.
[/quote] RESEARCH?

Humans can be made to believe anything is possible and even speeds ranging from 30,000 mph rocks to 186,000 per second light.
They do it with footballers today and many other sports. Most don't bat an eyelid when a player is haggling over a 15 million a year contract.

You see, just like silly 30,000 mph rocks and 18,000 mph orbiting so called space vehicles - we simply accept it. We accept it because we believe we know what it's all about.

You keep believing in your fantasy. I'll stick to looking for the reality.

How stupid are you? Felix Baumgarter, at his fastest, was moving at about 800 miles per hour. When meteors enter the atmosphere, they're moving at speeds upwards of 30,000 miles per hour. If you did your damn research and actually knew something about what you were trying to refute then you wouldn't bother making this retarded point.

RESEARCH?

Humans can be made to believe anything is possible and even speeds ranging from 30,000 mph rocks to 186,000 per second light.
They do it with footballers today and many other sports. Most don't bat an eyelid when a player is haggling over a 15 million a year contract.

You see, just like silly 30,000 mph rocks and 18,000 mph orbiting so called space vehicles - we simply accept it. We accept it because we believe we know what it's all about.

You keep believing in your fantasy. I'll stick to looking for the reality.
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You might want to swap the "fantasy" and "reality" bud. You're the one believing in a fucked-over fantasy world with not one piece of factual evidence to back it up. Again, here's the issue of you being too retarded to even bother researching what you're trying to refute. When you don't take the "big step" and do that, you're just making yourself look more, and more like a fool.