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What is your opinion on the United States' gun laws at present?

They are far too restrictive.
8 (44.4%)
They are a little restrictive.
1 (5.6%)
They are fine as it is.
2 (11.1%)
They are a little relaxed.
1 (5.6%)
They are far too relaxed.
5 (27.8%)
None of the above (please specify)
1 (5.6%)

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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #390 on: December 09, 2015, 09:52:30 AM »
Kind of funny how the modern right wing lets people own weapons.  How did it go with the Nazis again? 
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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #391 on: December 09, 2015, 09:54:11 AM »
Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 09:52:30 AM
Kind of funny how the modern right wing lets people own weapons.  How did it go with the Nazis again?

Owning weapons isn't related to the base political ideologies dumbass. What grade did you get in civics class again? F? F-? You really have to be rather retarded to not know this.
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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #392 on: December 09, 2015, 09:56:24 AM »
Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 09, 2015, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 09:52:30 AM
Kind of funny how the modern right wing lets people own weapons.  How did it go with the Nazis again?

Owning weapons isn't related to the base political ideologies dumbass. What grade did you get in civics class again? F? F-? You really have to be rather retarded to not know this.

Dumb ass, that is the entire premise of the thread.  Did you forget that?  Now, did the NAZIs let their free citizens own firearms: yes or no? 
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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #393 on: December 09, 2015, 09:58:23 AM »
Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 09:56:24 AM
Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 09, 2015, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 09:52:30 AM
Kind of funny how the modern right wing lets people own weapons.  How did it go with the Nazis again?

Owning weapons isn't related to the base political ideologies dumbass. What grade did you get in civics class again? F? F-? You really have to be rather retarded to not know this.

Dumb ass, that is the entire premise of the thread.  Did you forget that?  Now, did the NAZIs let their free citizens own firearms: yes or no?

Sure, it's prevalent to the thread, but it's not prevalent to what Luke brought up. No, they didn't. But again, it's completely irrelevant to political ideologies.
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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #394 on: December 09, 2015, 01:11:31 PM »
Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 09, 2015, 09:58:23 AM
Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 09:56:24 AM
Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 09, 2015, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 09:52:30 AM
Kind of funny how the modern right wing lets people own weapons.  How did it go with the Nazis again?

Owning weapons isn't related to the base political ideologies dumbass. What grade did you get in civics class again? F? F-? You really have to be rather retarded to not know this.

Dumb ass, that is the entire premise of the thread.  Did you forget that?  Now, did the NAZIs let their free citizens own firearms: yes or no?

Sure, it's prevalent to the thread, but it's not prevalent to what Luke brought up. No, they didn't. But again, it's completely irrelevant to political ideologies.
Political ideologies , what political ideologies would they be ? The de facto Governments ? They dont let!!! you own a firearm.they dont have that authority .their de facto. If they dont have the authority to give you that right.Then they dont have the authority to take that right away. individuals are the sovereign & hold sovereignty.Public. Not the de facto states or federal de facto GOVERNMENTS. Agenda21 is a scheme hatched to control the environment, hence removing individuals sovereignty rights of free choice to commercial contract or not, do as you WILL with your personal property . Its a strategic means to force waver of that  right, by bluff intimidation & stand over tactics though claiming to control the sovereigns free will & personal  property , "THE ENVIRONMENT" they live & trade in.It basically comes down to forced monopolized contracting by Claimed ownership of THE ENVIRONMENT.
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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #395 on: December 09, 2015, 01:40:05 PM »
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 09, 2015, 01:11:31 PM
Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 09, 2015, 09:58:23 AM
Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 09:56:24 AM
Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 09, 2015, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 09:52:30 AM
Kind of funny how the modern right wing lets people own weapons.  How did it go with the Nazis again?

Owning weapons isn't related to the base political ideologies dumbass. What grade did you get in civics class again? F? F-? You really have to be rather retarded to not know this.

Dumb ass, that is the entire premise of the thread.  Did you forget that?  Now, did the NAZIs let their free citizens own firearms: yes or no?

Sure, it's prevalent to the thread, but it's not prevalent to what Luke brought up. No, they didn't. But again, it's completely irrelevant to political ideologies.
Political ideologies , what political ideologies would they be ? The de facto Governments ? They dont let!!! you own a firearm.they dont have that authority .their de facto. If they dont have the authority to give you that right.Then they dont have the authority to take that right away. individuals are the sovereign & hold sovereignty.Public. Not the de facto states or federal de facto GOVERNMENTS. Agenda21 is a scheme hatched to control the environment, hence removing individuals sovereignty rights of free choice to commercial contract or not, do as you WILL with your personal property . Its a strategic means to force waver of that  right, by bluff intimidation & stand over tactics though claiming to control the sovereigns free will & personal  property , "THE ENVIRONMENT" they live & trade in.It basically comes down to forced monopolized contracting by Claimed ownership of THE ENVIRONMENT.

No. Agenda 21 is an agenda created to promote sustainable development. Sustainable development is a development tactic used to help promote commercial development, and preserve and not damage the environment while developing. It's not some conspiracy to "take over the world".
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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #396 on: December 09, 2015, 08:21:04 PM »
Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 09, 2015, 01:40:05 PM
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 09, 2015, 01:11:31 PM
Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 09, 2015, 09:58:23 AM
Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 09:56:24 AM
Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 09, 2015, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 09:52:30 AM
Kind of funny how the modern right wing lets people own weapons.  How did it go with the Nazis again?

Owning weapons isn't related to the base political ideologies dumbass. What grade did you get in civics class again? F? F-? You really have to be rather retarded to not know this.

Dumb ass, that is the entire premise of the thread.  Did you forget that?  Now, did the NAZIs let their free citizens own firearms: yes or no?

Sure, it's prevalent to the thread, but it's not prevalent to what Luke brought up. No, they didn't. But again, it's completely irrelevant to political ideologies.
Political ideologies , what political ideologies would they be ? The de facto Governments ? They dont let!!! you own a firearm.they dont have that authority .their de facto. If they dont have the authority to give you that right.Then they dont have the authority to take that right away. individuals are the sovereign & hold sovereignty.Public. Not the de facto states or federal de facto GOVERNMENTS. Agenda21 is a scheme hatched to control the environment, hence removing individuals sovereignty rights of free choice to commercial contract or not, do as you WILL with your personal property . Its a strategic means to force waver of that  right, by bluff intimidation & stand over tactics though claiming to control the sovereigns free will & personal  property , "THE ENVIRONMENT" they live & trade in.It basically comes down to forced monopolized contracting by Claimed ownership of THE ENVIRONMENT.

No. Agenda 21 is an agenda created to promote sustainable development. Sustainable development is a development tactic used to help promote commercial development, and preserve and not damage the environment while developing. It's not some conspiracy to "take over the world".
Whos commercial development ? Could you please explain what you mean by development tactic ? That sounds all fair & friendly. NOT , dont  you mean taking land & property from its owner, with no just terms compensation  & handing it over to a consortium  of monopolized developer buddies.  Who then give a small cut of the booty to the comunity  communists. For their part in the theft & extortion of the property from the owner.
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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #397 on: December 09, 2015, 08:25:48 PM »
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 09, 2015, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 09, 2015, 01:40:05 PM
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 09, 2015, 01:11:31 PM
Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 09, 2015, 09:58:23 AM
Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 09:56:24 AM
Quote from: TheEarthIsRound. on December 09, 2015, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: jroa on December 09, 2015, 09:52:30 AM
Kind of funny how the modern right wing lets people own weapons.  How did it go with the Nazis again?

Owning weapons isn't related to the base political ideologies dumbass. What grade did you get in civics class again? F? F-? You really have to be rather retarded to not know this.

Dumb ass, that is the entire premise of the thread.  Did you forget that?  Now, did the NAZIs let their free citizens own firearms: yes or no?

Sure, it's prevalent to the thread, but it's not prevalent to what Luke brought up. No, they didn't. But again, it's completely irrelevant to political ideologies.
Political ideologies , what political ideologies would they be ? The de facto Governments ? They dont let!!! you own a firearm.they dont have that authority .their de facto. If they dont have the authority to give you that right.Then they dont have the authority to take that right away. individuals are the sovereign & hold sovereignty.Public. Not the de facto states or federal de facto GOVERNMENTS. Agenda21 is a scheme hatched to control the environment, hence removing individuals sovereignty rights of free choice to commercial contract or not, do as you WILL with your personal property . Its a strategic means to force waver of that  right, by bluff intimidation & stand over tactics though claiming to control the sovereigns free will & personal  property , "THE ENVIRONMENT" they live & trade in.It basically comes down to forced monopolized contracting by Claimed ownership of THE ENVIRONMENT.

No. Agenda 21 is an agenda created to promote sustainable development. Sustainable development is a development tactic used to help promote commercial development, and preserve and not damage the environment while developing. It's not some conspiracy to "take over the world".
Whos commercial development ? Could you please explain what you mean by development tactic ? That sounds all fair & friendly. NOT , dont  you mean taking land & property from its owner, with no just terms compensation  & handing it over to a consortium  of monopolized developer's buddies.  Who then give a small cut of the booty to the comunity  communists. For their part in the theft & extortion of the property from the owner.

Anybody. Sustainable development is almost the same thing as regular development, e.g, building houses, shops, offices, etc., except there's just one clause on it: the preservation of the environment must be a part of that development. For example: you can't just walk onto a nature preserve and say "I'm going to build a 20-story office building". Sustainable development prevents this. Agenda 21 promotes sustainable development. End of story.

Are you educated now? Will you finally stop misusing terms?
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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #398 on: December 09, 2015, 08:58:13 PM »
You phucken lying sack of shit. Its the opposite to what your claiming it to be. Just ask any farmer who has been rated & taxed off his land with no just terms provide , just extorted "Agended"In the name of environmental sustanabilty. Only to see the land & environment  carved up & as many houses & units you could squeezed on that land  squeezed on that land. You scum poison our drinking water, poison our air. Phuck with the climate with your haarp. Sold off all our state owned utilities to foreign intrests . Yes you really are lying phucken scum.
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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #399 on: December 09, 2015, 09:24:33 PM »
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 09, 2015, 08:58:13 PM
You phucken lying sack of shit. Its the opposite to what your claiming it to be. Just ask any farmer who has been rated & taxed off his land with no just terms provide , just extorted "Agended"In the name of environmental sustanabilty. Only to see the land & environment  carved up & as many houses & units you could squeezed on that land  squeezed on that land. You scum poison our drinking water, poison our air. Phuck with the climate with your haarp. Sold off all our state owned utilities to foreign intrests . Yes you really are lying phucken scum.
You keep on assuming a false dichotomy between the people and the government.
Why?
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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #400 on: December 09, 2015, 09:36:32 PM »
Quote from: Scroto Gaggins on December 09, 2015, 09:24:33 PM
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 09, 2015, 08:58:13 PM
You phucken lying sack of shit. Its the opposite to what your claiming it to be. Just ask any farmer who has been rated & taxed off his land with no just terms provide , just extorted "Agended"In the name of environmental sustanabilty. Only to see the land & environment  carved up & as many houses & units you could squeezed on that land  squeezed on that land. You scum poison our drinking water, poison our air. Phuck with the climate with your haarp. Sold off all our state owned utilities to foreign intrests . Yes you really are lying phucken scum.
You keep on assuming a false dichotomy between the people and the government.
Why?
Non binding treaty & you agenda21 traitors are implamenting it , who aproved it ?. So who or what is it binding on, If its non binding? & how is it possibley enforceable. If its non binding ? Where is the full disclosure if it is binding , when its stated its non binding.  Fraudulent deception seems to be the correct answers.
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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #401 on: December 09, 2015, 10:40:51 PM »
The truth is old  scrotum, I'm no longer anyones subject or slave . Haven't been since 1984.
The whole agenda21 scam in Australia , is to fleece you out of your share entitlement as a secured Commonwealth of Australia creditor.
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« Reply #402 on: December 09, 2015, 10:55:01 PM »
Oh & fleece is probable not the right word all though its depicting. I believe fraudulent abuse of trust would be the correct legally term.
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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #403 on: December 10, 2015, 12:54:36 AM »
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 09, 2015, 09:36:32 PM
Quote from: Scroto Gaggins on December 09, 2015, 09:24:33 PM
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 09, 2015, 08:58:13 PM
You phucken lying sack of shit. Its the opposite to what your claiming it to be. Just ask any farmer who has been rated & taxed off his land with no just terms provide , just extorted "Agended"In the name of environmental sustanabilty. Only to see the land & environment  carved up & as many houses & units you could squeezed on that land  squeezed on that land. You scum poison our drinking water, poison our air. Phuck with the climate with your haarp. Sold off all our state owned utilities to foreign intrests . Yes you really are lying phucken scum.
You keep on assuming a false dichotomy between the people and the government.
Why?
Non binding treaty & you agenda21 traitors are implamenting it , who aproved it ?. So who or what is it binding on, If its non binding? & how is it possibley enforceable. If its non binding ? Where is the full disclosure if it is binding , when its stated its non binding.  Fraudulent deception seems to be the correct answers.
Seeing as the government is comprised of people, not to mention the "shills" like myself, then technically we are the people also.
I.e the government is a subset of 'the people', rather then them being two different sets.

Also, how can we be traitors?
Who are we betraying?
The government? I thought they were with us?
The people? Which people?
The people that include us?
What treaty are you speaking of?
What is binding?
Why does fraudulent deception count as more than one answer?
What are you talking about?
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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #404 on: December 10, 2015, 02:01:04 AM »
Quote from: Scroto Gaggins on December 10, 2015, 12:54:36 AM
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 09, 2015, 09:36:32 PM
Quote from: Scroto Gaggins on December 09, 2015, 09:24:33 PM
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 09, 2015, 08:58:13 PM
You phucken lying sack of shit. Its the opposite to what your claiming it to be. Just ask any farmer who has been rated & taxed off his land with no just terms provide , just extorted "Agended"In the name of environmental sustanabilty. Only to see the land & environment  carved up & as many houses & units you could squeezed on that land  squeezed on that land. You scum poison our drinking water, poison our air. Phuck with the climate with your haarp. Sold off all our state owned utilities to foreign intrests . Yes you really are lying phucken scum.
You keep on assuming a false dichotomy between the people and the government.
Why?
Non binding treaty & you agenda21 traitors are implamenting it , who aproved it ?. So who or what is it binding on, If its non binding? & how is it possibley enforceable. If its non binding ? Where is the full disclosure if it is binding , when its stated its non binding.  Fraudulent deception seems to be the correct answers.
Seeing as the government is comprised of people, not to mention the "shills" like myself, then technically we are the people also.
I.e the government is a subset of 'the people', rather then them being two different sets.

Also, how can we be traitors?
Who are we betraying?
The government? I thought they were with us?
The people? Which people?
The people that include us?
What treaty are you speaking of?
What is binding?
Why does fraudulent deception count as more than one answer?
What are you talking about?
The Government is comprised of people ? No! comprised of "persons" corporates.
Who are you betraying. You have & are betraying the sovereign people.
Which treaty . This agreement that was signed .http://www.postsustainabilityinstitute.org/which-nations-signed-agenda-21.html Now you can call it an agreement . Call it what you phucken like. Its a treaty or if you want to dance around with your underpants on your phucken head like an imbecile. Entreaty. It was signed so its formal. Its a treaty
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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #405 on: December 10, 2015, 02:43:10 AM »
http://theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/agenda-21-politicians-shutting-debate.html
Now the UN spokesperson stated no one in attendance signed the agreement (treaty-entreaty).
That was a blatant lie . Now you might want to play dead & claim it wasn't signed in a natural person capacity. That an actor autographed it . Well some ones natural hand must of done the signing put pen to paper & who gives a rats ass what colour the ink was , i dont think a jury will care or we have a bunch of dead people  running round & we better call the coronor .Tell him/ her there are zombies on the loose.

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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #406 on: December 10, 2015, 04:51:50 AM »
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 10, 2015, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: Scroto Gaggins on December 10, 2015, 12:54:36 AM
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 09, 2015, 09:36:32 PM
Quote from: Scroto Gaggins on December 09, 2015, 09:24:33 PM
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 09, 2015, 08:58:13 PM
You phucken lying sack of shit. Its the opposite to what your claiming it to be. Just ask any farmer who has been rated & taxed off his land with no just terms provide , just extorted "Agended"In the name of environmental sustanabilty. Only to see the land & environment  carved up & as many houses & units you could squeezed on that land  squeezed on that land. You scum poison our drinking water, poison our air. Phuck with the climate with your haarp. Sold off all our state owned utilities to foreign intrests . Yes you really are lying phucken scum.
You keep on assuming a false dichotomy between the people and the government.
Why?
Non binding treaty & you agenda21 traitors are implamenting it , who aproved it ?. So who or what is it binding on, If its non binding? & how is it possibley enforceable. If its non binding ? Where is the full disclosure if it is binding , when its stated its non binding.  Fraudulent deception seems to be the correct answers.
Seeing as the government is comprised of people, not to mention the "shills" like myself, then technically we are the people also.
I.e the government is a subset of 'the people', rather then them being two different sets.

Also, how can we be traitors?
Who are we betraying?
The government? I thought they were with us?
The people? Which people?
The people that include us?
What treaty are you speaking of?
What is binding?
Why does fraudulent deception count as more than one answer?
What are you talking about?
The Government is comprised of people ? No! comprised of "persons" corporates.
Who are you betraying. You have & are betraying the sovereign people.
Which treaty . This agreement that was signed .http://www.postsustainabilityinstitute.org/which-nations-signed-agenda-21.html Now you can call it an agreement . Call it what you phucken like. Its a treaty or if you want to dance around with your underpants on your phucken head like an imbecile. Entreaty. It was signed so its formal. Its a treaty
I'm pretty sure Agenda 21 is a non-binding statement of intent.
Not a treaty.
And certainly not anything to wrap up in conspiracy.
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Re: Gun Violence in the United States
« Reply #407 on: December 10, 2015, 12:38:45 PM »
Quote from: Scroto Gaggins on December 10, 2015, 04:51:50 AM
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 10, 2015, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: Scroto Gaggins on December 10, 2015, 12:54:36 AM
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 09, 2015, 09:36:32 PM
Quote from: Scroto Gaggins on December 09, 2015, 09:24:33 PM
Quote from: charles bloomington on December 09, 2015, 08:58:13 PM
You phucken lying sack of shit. Its the opposite to what your claiming it to be. Just ask any farmer who has been rated & taxed off his land with no just terms provide , just extorted "Agended"In the name of environmental sustanabilty. Only to see the land & environment  carved up & as many houses & units you could squeezed on that land  squeezed on that land. You scum poison our drinking water, poison our air. Phuck with the climate with your haarp. Sold off all our state owned utilities to foreign intrests . Yes you really are lying phucken scum.
You keep on assuming a false dichotomy between the people and the government.
Why?
Non binding treaty & you agenda21 traitors are implamenting it , who aproved it ?. So who or what is it binding on, If its non binding? & how is it possibley enforceable. If its non binding ? Where is the full disclosure if it is binding , when its stated its non binding.  Fraudulent deception seems to be the correct answers.
Seeing as the government is comprised of people, not to mention the "shills" like myself, then technically we are the people also.
I.e the government is a subset of 'the people', rather then them being two different sets.

Also, how can we be traitors?
Who are we betraying?
The government? I thought they were with us?
The people? Which people?
The people that include us?
What treaty are you speaking of?
What is binding?
Why does fraudulent deception count as more than one answer?
What are you talking about?
The Government is comprised of people ? No! comprised of "persons" corporates.
Who are you betraying. You have & are betraying the sovereign people.
Which treaty . This agreement that was signed .http://www.postsustainabilityinstitute.org/which-nations-signed-agenda-21.html Now you can call it an agreement . Call it what you phucken like. Its a treaty or if you want to dance around with your underpants on your phucken head like an imbecile. Entreaty. It was signed so its formal. Its a treaty
I'm pretty sure Agenda 21 is a non-binding statement of intent.
Not a treaty.
And certainly not anything to wrap up in conspiracy.
Statements of intent  , I didnt know the nation's of the world were studying for a PhD .
So what are the signatories intent ? Who intrests are they serving with this intent , surely it cant be  the electorate they claim to represent. Because they have  been kept in the dark by the politicians, that have been introducing  & implamented agenda21 by stealth,  lies & denial for over 20 years.
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