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Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« on: November 21, 2015, 01:22:25 PM »
AS IN THE HEADER-WHAT LOGICAL THEORY EXPLAINS GRAVITY AS ION PROPULSION WOULD SUGGEST ELECTRO-MAGNETISM OR...........
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2015, 01:34:32 PM »
Can a mod move this to Complete Nonsense or Angry Ranting? I have a feeling not much constructive discussion is going to come from this. In the future too, can you please refrain from using all-caps in your titles? It's highly distracting.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2015, 01:37:04 PM »
Quote from: TheEarthIsRoundNotFlat on November 21, 2015, 01:34:32 PM
Can a mod move this to Complete Nonsense or Angry Ranting? I have a feeling not much constructive discussion is going to come from this. In the future too, can you please refrain from using all-caps in your titles? It's highly distracting.
its easier to see my posts as I don't have an option to see my posts as a list.wonder when ROUND EARTH SOCIETY website is up and running-then we can all troll that website.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2015, 05:02:17 PM »
Quote from: gazza711 on November 21, 2015, 01:37:04 PM
Quote from: TheEarthIsRoundNotFlat on November 21, 2015, 01:34:32 PM
Can a mod move this to Complete Nonsense or Angry Ranting? I have a feeling not much constructive discussion is going to come from this. In the future too, can you please refrain from using all-caps in your titles? It's highly distracting.
its easier to see my posts as I don't have an option to see my posts as a list.wonder when ROUND EARTH SOCIETY website is up and running-then we can all troll that website.
Why should we make one? Every major science website says that the earth is round. It's just going to be buried and ridiculed as a joke.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2015, 05:19:38 PM »
The 2 systems, FE and RE are incompatible, totally different methods of creation, you do not need gravity on the flat earth, gravity is as undetectable as aether so there is no proof. Weight of numbers does not make RE'ers correct, it could also mean that most are gullible.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2015, 05:34:29 PM »
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 05:19:38 PM
The 2 systems, FE and RE are incompatible, totally different methods of creation, you do not need gravity on the flat earth, gravity is as undetectable as aether so there is no proof. Weight of numbers does not make RE'ers correct, it could also mean that most are gullible.
If gravity don't exist then why I'm on the ground instead of in the air?
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2015, 06:16:18 PM »
Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on November 21, 2015, 05:34:29 PM
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 05:19:38 PM
The 2 systems, FE and RE are incompatible, totally different methods of creation, you do not need gravity on the flat earth, gravity is as undetectable as aether so there is no proof. Weight of numbers does not make RE'ers correct, it could also mean that most are gullible.
If gravity don't exist then why I'm on the ground instead of in the air?


Because you are heavier than the air.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2015, 07:28:23 PM »
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on November 21, 2015, 05:34:29 PM
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 05:19:38 PM
The 2 systems, FE and RE are incompatible, totally different methods of creation, you do not need gravity on the flat earth, gravity is as undetectable as aether so there is no proof. Weight of numbers does not make RE'ers correct, it could also mean that most are gullible.
If gravity don't exist then why I'm on the ground instead of in the air?


Because you are heavier than the air.

Uh-huh. And what's keeping that air from floating away buddy? Hmm?
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2015, 08:22:07 PM »
Quote from: TheEarthIsRoundNotFlat on November 21, 2015, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on November 21, 2015, 05:34:29 PM
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 05:19:38 PM
The 2 systems, FE and RE are incompatible, totally different methods of creation, you do not need gravity on the flat earth, gravity is as undetectable as aether so there is no proof. Weight of numbers does not make RE'ers correct, it could also mean that most are gullible.
If gravity don't exist then why I'm on the ground instead of in the air?


Because you are heavier than the air.

Uh-huh. And what's keeping that air from floating away buddy? Hmm?
My thoughts exactly.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2015, 08:50:41 PM »
Quote from: TheEarthIsRoundNotFlat on November 21, 2015, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on November 21, 2015, 05:34:29 PM
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 05:19:38 PM
The 2 systems, FE and RE are incompatible, totally different methods of creation, you do not need gravity on the flat earth, gravity is as undetectable as aether so there is no proof. Weight of numbers does not make RE'ers correct, it could also mean that most are gullible.
If gravity don't exist then why I'm on the ground instead of in the air?


Because you are heavier than the air.

Uh-huh. And what's keeping that air from floating away buddy? Hmm?


Where has the air got to go? I think you are getting the rules of my world mixed up with the rules of your own
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2015, 08:57:10 PM »
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 08:50:41 PM
Quote from: TheEarthIsRoundNotFlat on November 21, 2015, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on November 21, 2015, 05:34:29 PM
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 05:19:38 PM
The 2 systems, FE and RE are incompatible, totally different methods of creation, you do not need gravity on the flat earth, gravity is as undetectable as aether so there is no proof. Weight of numbers does not make RE'ers correct, it could also mean that most are gullible.
If gravity don't exist then why I'm on the ground instead of in the air?


Because you are heavier than the air.

Uh-huh. And what's keeping that air from floating away buddy? Hmm?


Where has the air got to go? I think you are getting the rules of my world mixed up with the rules of your own

No, just don't know anything. On a flat Earth air isn't what keeps you from "floating away". It's the fact that the Earth is accelerating upwards. On a round Earth gravity keeps the air from just floating around.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2015, 09:28:32 PM »
Quote from: TheEarthIsRoundNotFlat on November 21, 2015, 08:57:10 PM
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 08:50:41 PM
Quote from: TheEarthIsRoundNotFlat on November 21, 2015, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on November 21, 2015, 05:34:29 PM
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 05:19:38 PM
The 2 systems, FE and RE are incompatible, totally different methods of creation, you do not need gravity on the flat earth, gravity is as undetectable as aether so there is no proof. Weight of numbers does not make RE'ers correct, it could also mean that most are gullible.



I have not looked into the earth accelerating upwards theory yet, that sounds like a strange one to me but I will check it out! I'm more of the still & stationary school of though,t but I am still relatively new to this.
If gravity don't exist then why I'm on the ground instead of in the air?


Because you are heavier than the air.

Uh-huh. And what's keeping that air from floating away buddy? Hmm?


Where has the air got to go? I think you are getting the rules of my world mixed up with the rules of your own

No, just don't know anything. On a flat Earth air isn't what keeps you from "floating away". It's the fact that the Earth is accelerating upwards. On a round Earth gravity keeps the air from just floating around.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2015, 11:02:35 AM »
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 09:28:32 PM
Quote from: TheEarthIsRoundNotFlat on November 21, 2015, 08:57:10 PM
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 08:50:41 PM
Quote from: TheEarthIsRoundNotFlat on November 21, 2015, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on November 21, 2015, 05:34:29 PM
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 05:19:38 PM
The 2 systems, FE and RE are incompatible, totally different methods of creation, you do not need gravity on the flat earth, gravity is as undetectable as aether so there is no proof. Weight of numbers does not make RE'ers correct, it could also mean that most are gullible.



I have not looked into the earth accelerating upwards theory yet, that sounds like a strange one to me but I will check it out! I'm more of the still & stationary school of though,t but I am still relatively new to this.
If gravity don't exist then why I'm on the ground instead of in the air?


Because you are heavier than the air.

Uh-huh. And what's keeping that air from floating away buddy? Hmm?


Where has the air got to go? I think you are getting the rules of my world mixed up with the rules of your own

No, just don't know anything. On a flat Earth air isn't what keeps you from "floating away". It's the fact that the Earth is accelerating upwards. On a round Earth gravity keeps the air from just floating around.
The earth accelerating upwards is to far fetched. if you convince a RE'r, we need to think a bit more than a turtle carrying the world.who comes up with them ideas.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2015, 11:26:00 AM »
Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on November 21, 2015, 05:34:29 PM
If gravity don't exist then why I'm on the ground instead of in the air?
Well, it's definitely not due to gravity, since gravity as a force does not exist.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2015, 11:37:28 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on November 23, 2015, 11:26:00 AM
Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on November 21, 2015, 05:34:29 PM
If gravity don't exist then why I'm on the ground instead of in the air?
Well, it's definitely not due to gravity, since gravity as a force does not exist.

Prove it. I've already proven that Newton's Law of Gravitation works, but you don't seem to have any proof that it doesn't exist.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2015, 11:52:23 AM »
Jump out of a plane with a scale under your feet.  What will the scale read?

Or

Grab an accelerometer.  Jump off your couch.  While approaching the floor, what will the accelerometer read?
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2015, 11:59:27 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on November 23, 2015, 11:52:23 AM
Jump out of a plane with a scale under your feet.  What will the scale read?

Or

Grab an accelerometer.  Jump off your couch.  While approaching the floor, what will the accelerometer read?

Elaborate. These are just questions that don't prove squat.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2015, 01:00:15 PM »
Quote from: Aman68 on November 21, 2015, 06:16:18 PM
Because you are heavier than the air.

What does heavy mean?

There needs to be a downwards force, no matter the model. I agree UA is a mess of a theory: infinite energy, to say nothing of the other issues. That doesn't preclude alternatives; there's the denpressure model which, despite its flaws, proves a useful analogue. Any downwards force towards the Earth would fill the role, and there are multiple candidates.
DET favors aether (which is well-defined and simply deduced, in the DE model).
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2015, 01:27:24 PM »
Quote from: TheEarthIsRoundNotFlat on November 23, 2015, 11:59:27 AM
Elaborate. These are just questions that don't prove squat.
They prove that gravity is not a force.

What we commonly call the 'force of gravity' is actually a fictitious force that arises by the transformation of a non inertial frame of reference into an inertial one.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2015, 01:28:53 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on November 23, 2015, 01:27:24 PM
Quote from: TheEarthIsRoundNotFlat on November 23, 2015, 11:59:27 AM
Elaborate. These are just questions that don't prove squat.
They prove that gravity is not a force.

What we commonly call the 'force of gravity' is actually a fictitious force that arises by the transformation of a non inertial frame of reference into an inertial one.

ffs...

That's not what I mean by "elaborate". Elaborate on how your two "proofs" disprove the existence of gravity.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2015, 01:41:58 PM »
I can make it disappear by jumping from a plane or even a couch.  If gravity was actually a force, why would it go away by simply stepping off a ledge?

BTW, I think your signature is extremely ironic, given that you don't have any idea what I am talking about. 
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2015, 02:09:55 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on November 23, 2015, 01:41:58 PM
I can make it disappear by jumping from a plane or even a couch.  If gravity was actually a force, why would it go away by simply stepping off a ledge?

BTW, I think your signature is extremely ironic, given that you don't have any idea what I am talking about.

Again, elaborate. How does the gravity "disappear" or "go away"?
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2015, 02:32:38 PM »
Because it is...fictitious (doesn't exist, not real, fake).  I hope that is simple enough for you.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2015, 03:54:16 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on November 23, 2015, 02:32:38 PM
Because it is...fictitious (doesn't exist, not real, fake).  I hope that is simple enough for you.

That's not good enough proof. Do you not understand the meaning of the word "elaborate"?
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2015, 04:38:54 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on November 23, 2015, 11:52:23 AM
Jump out of a plane with a scale under your feet.  What will the scale read?

Or

Grab an accelerometer.  Jump off your couch.  While approaching the floor, what will the accelerometer read?
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2015, 04:35:47 PM »
Tests have shown that the so called gravity is a push not a pull and is centered a thousand miles or so above the flat plane of the Earth. This is from physical tests, not a Newton's Law of Gravitation that uses math that is full of errors. By his own math it does not exists as he describes it. Flawed math wrong answer. He just assumed a theory and forced a failed math proof to support it. Just go through his proof step by step and you will see the errors of it. If you believe science as you say then the science has to use real data, not false data to force an assumption.
Gravity=fail, period.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2015, 04:58:15 PM »
Quote from: ronxyz on November 26, 2015, 04:35:47 PM
Tests have shown that the so called gravity is a push not a pull and is centered a thousand miles or so above the flat plane of the Earth. This is from physical tests, not a Newton's Law of Gravitation that uses math that is full of errors. By his own math it does not exists as he describes it. Flawed math wrong answer. He just assumed a theory and forced a failed math proof to support it. Just go through his proof step by step and you will see the errors of it. If you believe science as you say then the science has to use real data, not false data to force an assumption.
Gravity=fail, period.

Flat earth theory = Fail, period.

Gravity exists, you can see this from all the videos from the ISS, what about low or high tides? YOu do understand that is the moons gravity pulling on the oceans right? What about all of the stars in the universe? We can watch them orbit stars. We have also used the moons gravity alond with other planets to accelerate our space craft like the voyeger missions...but i am sure those are fake as well right?
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2015, 07:28:14 PM »
There is no physical proof of the ball Earth theory, none. No one has given any and neither can you. You do know that the ISS is just a production, a poor one at that. To try and use it as any kind of proof is a joke. The tides are no where proven to be an effect of the moon. It is a loose theory based on the failed theory of gravity. You use gravity like it is real proven thing, as you claim it have you done the math of gravity? Not likely, you BELIEVE there is gravity. Believe has no place in science, so you and gravity fail.

iss failed scene generation, missing earth.
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/iss042e017768.jpg
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2015, 01:19:24 AM »
Quote from: FlatSinceBirth on November 26, 2015, 04:58:15 PM
Gravity exists
Gravity as a force does not exist.  You've been lied to.
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Re: Explain gravity in the Flat Earth Theory
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2015, 02:01:58 PM »
" and for you god has made the earth a carpet so as you can walk on it "  Koran 71:19
it means if it was not like a carpet (flat) we would not be able to live on it " gravity doesn't come from earth !
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