Other flat planets in the universe?

So with all the observable planets we can see in the universe are there any other "flat" planets that we can see? Ifwe haven't found any does this mean we are at the "center' of the universe?

We can see around a half dozen planets in the universe.  Your own scientists claim that there are billions.  Sounds like you do not know much about astrology. 

We can see around a half dozen planets in the universe.  Your own scientists claim that there are billions.  Sounds like you do not know much about astrology.

First off, astrology has nothing to do with the study of planets. Please google astrology for me and tell me what you see.

Anyways scientists have found hundreds of planets orbiting other stars but not billions.

and to answer your question FlatSinceBirth, there are no flat planets that we can see because flat planets do not exist. go do some basic research on why the earth is round and get yourself as far away from this website as you can.

Quote from: jroa on November 12, 2015, 04:13:11 PM

We can see around a half dozen planets in the universe.  Your own scientists claim that there are billions.  Sounds like you do not know much about astrology.

First off, astrology has nothing to do with the study of planets. Please google astrology for me and tell me what you see.

Anyways scientists have found hundreds of planets orbiting other stars but not billions.

and to answer your question FlatSinceBirth, there are no flat planets that we can see because flat planets do not exist. go do some basic research on why the earth is round and get yourself as far away from this website as you can.

Scientists have not found any planets orbiting other stars.  They see the light of some stars appearing to get slightly, almost imperceptibly dimmer and postulate that it is because of a planet, but they have never, I repeat, never seen one of these planets, so they have no idea what shape they are.  If they do exist, they could be flat like coins, or pyramid shaped, for all your scientists know.  And by the way, they have calculated that there are billions of planets in our galaxy alone.  In fact, the current estimate is over 100 billion planets.  Now, take your bad astrology to someone else. 

Scientists have not found any planets orbiting other stars.  They see the light of some stars appearing to get slightly, almost imperceptibly dimmer and postulate that it is because of a planet, but they have never, I repeat, never seen one of these planets, so they have no idea what shape they are.

Scientists use simple ideas to predict planets and then other tools to confirm they are really planets.
Besides, there is a direct photo of a planet from the different solar system.
http://www.cnet.com/news/rare-direct-image-of-a-super-jupiter-exoplanet/
The list is a bit longer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_directly_imaged_exoplanets

If they do exist, they could be flat like coins, or pyramid shaped, for all your scientists know.

Or ball-shaped, as the gravitation implies.

 

And by the way, they have calculated that there are billions of planets in our galaxy alone.  In fact, the current estimate is over 100 billion planets.

Calculated is not the same thing as found.

Now, take your bad astrology to someone else.

Now take your random string of unsupported claims or to someone else. And please check the meaning of astrology, because it is possible that you have no actual idea what does it mean.

Why do people look to the very sources that are pulling the wool over our eyes to disprove the alternative! That alone is insane! These people started the lie generations ago and are continuing the lie today and they are getting better and more convincing at it as technology aids their cause. It's difficult deciphering the truth but don't look to the deceivers for evidence! Duh!

Quote from: jroa on November 12, 2015, 04:13:11 PM

We can see around a half dozen planets in the universe.  Your own scientists claim that there are billions.  Sounds like you do not know much about astrology.

First off, astrology has nothing to do with the study of planets. Please google astrology for me and tell me what you see.

Anyways scientists have found hundreds of planets orbiting other stars but not billions.

and to answer your question FlatSinceBirth, there are no flat planets that we can see because flat planets do not exist. go do some basic research on why the earth is round and get yourself as far away from this website as you can.

But if flat planets do not exist then how does flat earth theory hold water....? I have also been wondering how the water on earth doesn't just run off the face of earth?

But if flat planets do not exist then how does flat earth theory hold water....? I have also been wondering how the water on earth doesn't just run off the face of earth?

You are assuming that what you see in the sky is the same as what is below your feet. 

Why do people look to the very sources that are pulling the wool over our eyes to disprove the alternative! That alone is insane! These people started the lie generations ago and are continuing the lie today and they are getting better and more convincing at it as technology aids their cause. It's difficult deciphering the truth but don't look to the deceivers for evidence! Duh!

I have seen a Jupiter with the aid of telescope. I have seen its atmosphere clearly, with Great Red Spot. I have seen it (the planet) acting like a rotating ball - just repeated obesrvations in ~1h intervals. Am I deceived by the source/scientists?

Under DET, the round planets we observe exist as a result of a planar Earth. In an analogue to the RE system, we would be the Sun: that which surrounds us exists because of us, and different to us.
There is nothing that would prevent similar planar worlds and subsequent systems developing elsewhere.

So what makes earth special? Why do we obey different rules to all the other planets?

So what makes earth special? Why do we obey different rules to all the other planets?

We don't.

Quote from: Cake Tastes Nice on November 16, 2015, 11:30:15 AM

So what makes earth special? Why do we obey different rules to all the other planets?

We don't.

So what about all the other planets in the solar system?
And don't give that conspiracy bullshit, you can see them with a basic telescope.

Quote from: JRoweSkeptic on November 16, 2015, 12:27:18 PM

Quote from: Cake Tastes Nice on November 16, 2015, 11:30:15 AM

So what makes earth special? Why do we obey different rules to all the other planets?

We don't.

So what about all the other planets in the solar system?
And don't give that conspiracy bullshit, you can see them with a basic telescope.

At the bottom of the ocean, and near the ocean, there is a lot of sand. Should be then conclude every rock is sedimentary, or that proximity to water makes rock obey different rules?

Or, shock horror, MAYBE YOU COULD LEARN TO READ.

Quote from: Cake Tastes Nice on November 17, 2015, 11:24:38 AM

Quote from: JRoweSkeptic on November 16, 2015, 12:27:18 PM

Quote from: Cake Tastes Nice on November 16, 2015, 11:30:15 AM

So what makes earth special? Why do we obey different rules to all the other planets?

We don't.

So what about all the other planets in the solar system?
And don't give that conspiracy bullshit, you can see them with a basic telescope.

At the bottom of the ocean, and near the ocean, there is a lot of sand. Should be then conclude every rock is sedimentary, or that proximity to water makes rock obey different rules?

Or, shock horror, MAYBE YOU COULD LEARN TO READ.

So does each grain of sand obey a different rule? Is one subjected to gravity while the other floats away in the magical aether?
All the other planets are round. They are round because of gravity.
Earth is "flat". This is because of the aether.
In terms of probability the fact is earth doesn't have anything special compared to the other planets.
And cheers for the tip. You should just learn.
No seriously talking to you is painful.

So does each grain of sand obey a different rule? Is one subjected to gravity while the other floats away in the magical aether?

You tell me. THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING.
Personally I think there are different forces active in difefrent situations. if you put a rock and have water rush against it for centuries, it'll erode to sand: if it's exposed to only air, it'll typically last. You're the one who inexplicably thinks there are instead completely different laws at play.

In terms of probability the fact is earth doesn't have anything special compared to the other planets.

ONLY if you assume the Earth is the same kind of entity as those other planets. YOU ARE OUTRIGHT IGNORING FET. IT IS THAT SIMPLE. You do not have any argument that isn't based entirely in assumign the RE model.

This is growing ever more painful.
I never claimed earth was any different/obeyed different rules. I am literally claiming the exact opposite. I'm not sure you're quite sure about what we're arguing about.
Let me explain: this thread is talking about other flat planets found in the universe. This is because the easily observable planets are round. Now the RE explanation is that its because of gravity. You don't believe in gravity so its hard to understand how you assume these planets form. Instead Earth inexplicably obeys different fundamental laws. Apparently this is because they are in different situations although I'm unsure of the difference...

This is growing ever more painful.
I never claimed earth was any different/obeyed different rules. I am literally claiming the exact opposite. I'm not sure you're quite sure about what we're arguing about.

You're saying that, under FET, the fact the other worlds look different means they're somehow subject to different laws than the Earth.
If you're not saying that, then your argument is inexplicable. Are you just complaining that RET and FET are different? That's just childish.

Yes, I'm saying that other planets under FET must obey different rules because they are different shapes...

Yes, I'm saying that other planets under FET must obey different rules because they are different shapes...

So just completely ignoring everything we've discussed. Got it. Waste of time.

Quote from: Cake Tastes Nice on November 19, 2015, 02:17:35 PM

Yes, I'm saying that other planets under FET must obey different rules because they are different shapes...

So just completely ignoring everything we've discussed. Got it. Waste of time.

We discussed something that you haven't given anyone an answer for-why are some planets round and some planets flat. You're simply avoiding the question now-give an FE explanation or stop yabbering.

Quote from: JRoweSkeptic on November 19, 2015, 02:20:03 PM

Quote from: Cake Tastes Nice on November 19, 2015, 02:17:35 PM

Yes, I'm saying that other planets under FET must obey different rules because they are different shapes...

So just completely ignoring everything we've discussed. Got it. Waste of time.

We discussed something that you haven't given anyone an answer for-why are some planets round and some planets flat. You're simply avoiding the question now-give an FE explanation or stop yabbering.

When they don't have the answer to a question we bring up they tell us to go read and learn, but I know everything I have read and learned on this subject shows that FE theory is full of Sh!t. They are completely taking the word of the bible at face value and ignoring all of the science that the world has learned in 500+ years. To me it sounds like they need to go read and learn something...

Scientists have not found any planets orbiting other stars.  They see the light of some stars appearing to get slightly, almost imperceptibly dimmer and postulate that it is because of a planet, but they have never, I repeat, never seen one of these planets, so they have no idea what shape they are.

Incorrect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_directly_imaged_exoplanets

Quote from: Cake Tastes Nice on November 21, 2015, 03:00:25 AM

Quote from: JRoweSkeptic on November 19, 2015, 02:20:03 PM

Quote from: Cake Tastes Nice on November 19, 2015, 02:17:35 PM

Yes, I'm saying that other planets under FET must obey different rules because they are different shapes...

So just completely ignoring everything we've discussed. Got it. Waste of time.

We discussed something that you haven't given anyone an answer for-why are some planets round and some planets flat. You're simply avoiding the question now-give an FE explanation or stop yabbering.

When they don't have the answer to a question we bring up they tell us to go read and learn, but I know everything I have read and learned on this subject shows that FE theory is full of Sh!t. They are completely taking the word of the bible at face value and ignoring all of the science that the world has learned in 500+ years. To me it sounds like they need to go read and learn something...

Sounds to me that you need to stop making broad statements and quit making things up in your head and trying to pass it off as facts. 

Irony ... killing ... me ...

Quote from: JRoweSkeptic on November 19, 2015, 02:20:03 PM

Quote from: Cake Tastes Nice on November 19, 2015, 02:17:35 PM

Yes, I'm saying that other planets under FET must obey different rules because they are different shapes...

So just completely ignoring everything we've discussed. Got it. Waste of time.

We discussed something that you haven't given anyone an answer for-why are some planets round and some planets flat. You're simply avoiding the question now-give an FE explanation or stop yabbering.

"Under DET, the round planets we observe exist as a result of a planar Earth. In an analogue to the RE system, we would be the Sun: that which surrounds us exists because of us, and different to us.
There is nothing that would prevent similar planar worlds and subsequent systems developing elsewhere."

Do you have a short memory, or are you just outright lying? the same way sand exists near the sea: at a different location, you'll find different forces act. Take RET: planets wouldn't exist without the Sun, but the planets are of a very different type to the Sun. Similarly, under DET, and likely other FE models, the planets exist purely as a result of the planar Earth: formed as a result of it, but of a different type.

Quote from: FlatSinceBirth on November 21, 2015, 06:17:31 PM

Quote from: Cake Tastes Nice on November 21, 2015, 03:00:25 AM

Quote from: JRoweSkeptic on November 19, 2015, 02:20:03 PM

Quote from: Cake Tastes Nice on November 19, 2015, 02:17:35 PM

Yes, I'm saying that other planets under FET must obey different rules because they are different shapes...

So just completely ignoring everything we've discussed. Got it. Waste of time.

We discussed something that you haven't given anyone an answer for-why are some planets round and some planets flat. You're simply avoiding the question now-give an FE explanation or stop yabbering.

When they don't have the answer to a question we bring up they tell us to go read and learn, but I know everything I have read and learned on this subject shows that FE theory is full of Sh!t. They are completely taking the word of the bible at face value and ignoring all of the science that the world has learned in 500+ years. To me it sounds like they need to go read and learn something...

Sounds to me that you need to stop making broad statements and quit making things up in your head and trying to pass it off as facts.

Sounds to me that you need to stop making broad statements and quit making things up in your head and trying to pass it off as facts.

This is just so painful to read. What you are saying is there is only sand in the sea. Dude, have you ever been outside your hose, like, ever. Sand is EVERYWHERE, from deserts to the coast! Its just so silly to say that one tiny section of the universe seems to have different laws to others, Because earth has some 'magical aura' that makes it different from other things. Please, stop comparing physics to SAND.

This is just so painful to read. What you are saying is there is only sand in the sea. Dude, have you ever been outside your hose, like, ever. Sand is EVERYWHERE, from deserts to the coast! Its just so silly to say that one tiny section of the universe seems to have different laws to others, Because earth has some 'magical aura' that makes it different from other things. Please, stop comparing physics to SAND.

How about you pay attention to the analogy being used?

The argument made makes no sense whatsoever.

Quote from: wonkaswilly12 on November 27, 2015, 11:28:47 PM

This is just so painful to read. What you are saying is there is only sand in the sea. Dude, have you ever been outside your hose, like, ever. Sand is EVERYWHERE, from deserts to the coast! Its just so silly to say that one tiny section of the universe seems to have different laws to others, Because earth has some 'magical aura' that makes it different from other things. Please, stop comparing physics to SAND.

How about you pay attention to the analogy being used?

The argument made makes no sense whatsoever.

This argument makes perfect sense, but maybe your tiny 'brain' can't comprehend it, but I'll put it plainly: The universe doens't work where one esvtion of the universe is completely different to every single part of the rest of the universe. I honestly don't believe in RE or FE, But RE makes more sense.