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i want to see proof. my question was what evidence do you have, not why you think they are.

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hey geoguy. what is your evidence that nasa is in on the conspiracy?

They keep lying and saying Earth is round. They also release lots of fake satellite pictures.

Only if you want to change the scale of the argument.  I posit, quite correctly, that the flat Earth theory is a challenge to the scientifically accepted round Earth model.  The burden of proof then, in all aspects, is on a flat-Earther to disprove the round-Earth model.  

Burden of proof would be on me, if I were making a challenge to your claims, however, flat-Earthers relegate the most valuable evidence of a round Earth into the "fake" or "conspiracy" folder, then moving to say, since you cannot prove us wrong, we are correct.  

That is a logical fallacy, in appealing to lack of proof of the negative is not valid deduction by the scientific method.

Only if you want to change the scale of the argument.  I posit, quite correctly, that the flat Earth theory is a challenge to the scientifically accepted round Earth model.  The burden of proof then, in all aspects, is on a flat-Earther to disprove the round-Earth model.

Burden of proof would be on me, if I were making a challenge to your claims...

however, flat-Earthers relegate the most valuable evidence of a round Earth into the "fake" or "conspiracy" folder, then moving to say, since you cannot prove us wrong, we are correct.

No, the burden of proof is on the FE's to provide their evidence for a FE, and attempt to persuade you to accept their theory. You, having rejected said theory, have now placed the burden of proof on yourself to provide evidence that counters our evidence.

What? There is never any Burden of Proof on the challenger of an unaccepted theory.  My point was the issue is not between you and me, or any other RE here vs. any other FE here.   I am a secondary character here; commonly accepted scientific knowledge agrees that the Earth is round.

(If you wish to bring the burden of proof into play this late in the discussion at all)

That doesn't make any sense, Spotteddick.

"The burden of proof is never on the challenger of an unaccepted theory?"

The hell is that supposed to mean? With that logic, an unaccepted theory could never be logically accepted, since if you refute evidence with that logic, the 'accepted theory' gets the benefit of any doubt ever...That's just nonsensical.

~D-Draw

Obviously the unaccepted theory would eventually be accepted if it was sound with proper application of the scientific method.

Which won't happen because the FE theory does not use the scientific method.

I think that DiegoDraw, GeoGuy, TheEngineer, and Skeptical Scientist are complete and total douchebags because they refuse to la a shred of evidence that would support the FE theory.

I think that DiegoDraw, GeoGuy, TheEngineer, and Skeptical Scientist are complete and total douchebags because they refuse to la a shred of evidence that would support the FE theory.

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I think that DiegoDraw, GeoGuy, TheEngineer, and Skeptical Scientist are complete and total douchebags because they refuse to la a shred of evidence that would support the FE theory.

I've given you evidence. You just ignored it.

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Which won't happen because the FE theory does not use the scientific method.

Sorry if this is off-topic, but this thread has badly degenerated and I figure it could use a new topic anyways...

So, if the Zetetic method and the scientific method were both proper, valid ways of finding out about our universe, one would expect them to give the same answer, right? So is it your position that the earth is flat but the scientific method is somehow unable to determine this fact? If so, why is the scientific method flawed, and why is the zetetic method superior? Or would it be possible to determine the earth were flat, if that is indeed the case, via the scientific method?

Circular reasoning is not evidence dickrag.

Ok.  Now I'll deal with Geo Guy.

You suck.

Big time.

Show me evidence, my man.  Show it! And if you quote this I'll rip your head off.  Don't do it.

I think that DiegoDraw, GeoGuy, TheEngineer, and Skeptical Scientist are complete and total douchebags because they refuse to la a shred of evidence that would support the FE theory.

I know I hate diegodraw....

And its not that Fe'ers ever  give evidence, its that RE'ers never accept it.

Thats because you havent provided any dipshit.

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Thats because you havent provided any dipshit.

I'm pretty sure that the fact that the Earth can't be round (due to various reasons, which we HAVE provided evidence for), would leave the Earth being flat as the only logical choice. Plus, look outside. Read Rowbotham's book. Look around for evidence before saying that we don't have any and insulting us, unnecessarily.

~D-Draw