And why should they be different?
What makes Americans so violent in your opinion?
Because they obviously are. You are trying to show stats comparing the US to other countries. I'm showing you stats comparing the US to the US. Why are we more violent? In my opinion, it's due to the urban density and the glorification of certain types of criminals. But we seem to be getting less violent, as crime rate has been dropping for many, many years now.
Most of our population lives in dense cities i.e. Melbourne and Sydney.
And our country was founded on the back of the convict.
And yet americans are more than four times more likely to murder someone than an Australian.
That is great, but in the meantime, some mentally ill person is buying frearms.
If they have been diagnosed as mentally ill, then they are prohibited from buying a firearm. If they have not been diagnosed, then it is a good thing I have a firearm so that I can protect my family.
http://www.nij.gov/pubs-sum/165476.htmApparently 40% of all firearm purchases don't require a background check.
Felons and the mentally ill: guns for you!
Also, do the mentally ill not count as citizens of the US?
Because if they aren't then that is arbitrarily denying someone their nationality.
And if they are, then they should be allowed as much guns as the next person.
Actually no, I am not sticking to only NATO countries, as I have said before.
I am sticking to first world countries, all of whom are capitalist democracies, have good standard of living and high GDP per capita. It makes no sense to compare the US to Rwanda, as there are too many societal and governmental differences.
Some first world countries aren't in NATO, and some NATO countries aren't in the first world.
Oh, so you don't know that that is what first world means. NATO countries. The non NATO countries are the second world and the neutral/not declared are third world countries. It was not until a few decades ago that countries began to misuse the First/Second/Third world titles to show economic progress.
First World
noun
the industrialized capitalist countries of western Europe, North America, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand.
That is what we mean when we say the First World
Last I checked, things have changed since the Cold War.
If gun control went down drastically, do you not see that there would be more violence?
No, because the stats say otherwise. And it makes sense.
So if anyone of any age or criminal record could buy, legally, 50 caliber machine guns and put them in their houses, and take assault weapons on planes, etc. there would be
less murder.
You do know that the biggest cause of murder in the US is an argument, right?
How would putting more guns in the mix help a volatile situation like this?
And are you really saying that if the US has more background checks, for example, that there will be more murder?
All firearm purchases through a FFL require a background check. I don't know how much more you can have than all.
And not every legally purchased firearm is purchased through a FFL.
40 percent of all sales are through a private dealer, and therefore don't require checks.
Why are you so against gun control if you admit that all states have it?
Because it is unconstitutional.
And yet all states have gun control.
And asking you for a licence isn't taking away your right to have something.
You can have something, just get a licence.
If you are as law-abiding as you claim, that shouldn't be a problem.
Again, why is this trend observed in the US but not in Canada, Australia or the UK?
Why is an orange spherical but this is not seen in strawberries which are also fruit?
Because they are of different genuses, for one.
There you go, a difference.
What difference exist between the US and these three countries that could result in vastly different murder rates?
That is my question.
If we see that the amendment is wrong on this count, or at least stuck in the spirit of the past, why assume that it is correct?
Wrong on what count? The amendment seems to be right on all accounts.
A well-regulated militia is not necessary for the security of a free state.
Australia doesn't have a well-regualted militia, yet we are still free.
Do you drive by the speed limit?
Do you pay taxes?
If you do, then the government is telling you what to do and you are listening.
They force me at gun point to do these things.
No one forces you to drive at 60. You can drive at 75 if you want, but as that is breaking the law, a fine will have to be paid.
You have to have a drivers licence to drive
Last time I checked, driving wasn't a right expressed in the Constitution.
That is because the constitution was written more than 200 years ago.
But it is still a matter of common sense.
Drivers licence to drive, gun licence to own guns.
So you dispute the stats which I showed earlier?
No. What I don't understand is why you dispute the stats I show.
I don't dispute them, I just want to know why they exist.
But you don't dispute the fact that not only does homicide likelihood increase with more guns, but suicide and accidental deaths do too?
Huh, now we're getting somewhere.
The fact that you are more likely to have fun if there is a firearm around doesn't concern you?
No, because I am not stupid and I know how to use a firearm. By your logic, the military and the police force should be accidentally killing themselves all the time, since there are so many guns around.
Firstly, skill with a firearm isn't a requirement for the purchasing of a firearm.
One can have no idea what to do, and yet can own a high-powered weapon.
Secondly, I wasn't just talking accidents, I was talking suicides as well.
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.fullGun violence doesn't just mean against others, it can be against yourself.
Thirdly, suicide is a lot more common amongst the military.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_veteran_suicide
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