I'm not sure what is causing all the crime in the US, but I can tell you that it's not guns. If it were guns the states with high gun ownership would have more crime then states with low gun ownership, but in reality that trend is reversed. Internationally there is no correlation between gun ownership and crime. The statistics make it clear that guns lower crime rates, but they are still a rather small factor compared to other things.
Like I said before, if guns lower crime rates, then the US should have the lowest crime rate in the world.
And if they are a small factor, then the removal of them shouldn't cause much strife, should it?
So do your stats show that americans are not normal people? Or are they?
Even the 25 highest gun ownership states have a higher murder rate than first-world countries.
My question is why.
Your argument was about gun restrictions, not culture. The stats show, very clearly, that states with high gun ownership rates have lower gun murder rates than those with low gun ownership rates. And why do you keep restricting the argument to NATO aligned countries?
And how do you propose we change that culture? What policies can be put in place that change gun culture?
Also, in one sentence you mention how you think your argument works in the US, in the next sentence, you criticise me for sticking to first-world (not NATO) countries.
You can't have the privileges of being specific while denying that to me.
The reason why I'm restricting my argument to first-world countries is as they all are fairly similar, in terms of freedom, governmental stability and societal sophistication.
Comparing the US to, for example, Rwanda and Somalia isn't a fair comparison, as they do not have a stable government and have active rebellions.
This is my point though.
Gun control in the first world is linked to lower crime and murder rates.
In the US, it appears not to be.
However, you are making a very big mistake if you think that all gun control policies are the same.
Switzerland's gun policy means that to own a gun, one must serve in the military.
In Australia and New Zealand, a lot of paperwork and licensing has to be gone through to get firearms.
Gun control is a blanket term for any legislation which restricts to some extent the purchasing, using and carrying of firearms.
There are obviously policies that work, and those that don't.