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Re: People on skateboards.
« Reply #1200 on: December 19, 2015, 01:09:32 PM »
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Re: People on skateboards.
« Reply #1201 on: December 19, 2015, 01:13:31 PM »
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Quote from: rabinoz on December 19, 2015, 04:11:17 AM
Just saying it will not work in a vacuum is NOT an answer.
Look what you wrote earlier:

Quote from: rabinoz on December 17, 2015, 04:33:05 AM
It is absolutely useless only knowing what will not work

Gotta disagree with you anyhow; 'knowing what will not work' is pretty useful if you actually want to accomplish something.

But we all acknowledge that a rocket does work at "high altitude" in the atmosphere, but you deny they work in "space".
Knowing your dividing line (which I deny) would be a very important piece of knowledge.

Clearly you haven't the slightest idea how it could be ascertained!
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« Reply #1202 on: December 19, 2015, 01:24:56 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on December 19, 2015, 01:09:32 PM
Quote from: Papa Legba on December 19, 2015, 12:58:14 PM
You are pretending to be a missile engineer.

Quote from: Papa Legba on December 19, 2015, 12:58:14 PM
Incorrect.

That's right.

All you can do is say 'I am a missile engineer, honest I am!', without providing a single shred of proof that you are.

Well, you ain't.

Because if you were, you would not tell anyone you were.

You would especially not be bragging about it, telling us about your life, family etc. & saying things like 'GPS does not require satellites' on a fucking internet Conspiracy forum.

Because if you did you would be fired, unemployable in future & probably financially ruined.

Because that is how that world works.

So - yet again -knock off the bullshit, okay?

Because no-one is buying it.

Quote from: rabinoz on December 19, 2015, 01:13:31 PM
Knowing your dividing line (which I deny) would be a very important piece of knowledge.

Wouldn't it?

So why don't you ask your new best buddy 'engy baby'.

He's a rokkit enjynerr you know?

I'm absolutely certain of that because he told me so himself, on an INTERNET CONSPIRACY FORUM...

So it MUST be true!

LMFAO - at all of you Doctor Evil's Henchmen Fantasy role-players!!!
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« Reply #1203 on: December 19, 2015, 01:37:17 PM »
Papa Smurf seems to have the impression that an employer monitors everything one does on the Internet or even cares. 
As long as he isn't posting from work and/or doing something illegal, it is highly unlikely anybody knows or cares what he does on the internet.
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« Reply #1204 on: December 19, 2015, 01:47:40 PM »
Quote from: Papa Legba on December 19, 2015, 01:24:56 PM
All you can do is say 'I am a missile engineer, honest I am!', without providing a single shred of proof that you are.
What you don't understand is that I am not trying to convince you.  I couldn't care less if you believe that I am actually what I say I am. 
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« Reply #1205 on: December 19, 2015, 02:19:19 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on December 19, 2015, 11:56:04 AM
I don't need you to explain it.  Just provide the quote and prove me wrong.
I already provided evidence. You haven't refuted it yet.
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« Reply #1206 on: December 19, 2015, 03:00:44 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on December 19, 2015, 01:47:40 PM
I couldn't care less if you believe that I am actually what I say I am.

'Belief' does not come into it.

In Britain, people in your line of work have to sign the Official Secrets Act.

Which means they are not allowed to say a thing about what they do to anyone, even after they have finished working on the project.

The penalties for breaking the Act range from Prison & Fines down to, at the very least, total loss of professional livelihood & being blacklisted for the rest of their lives.

It is a VERY serious business.

Now, I do not know exactly how they go about it in America, but I doubt the penalties are much less severe.

So, yet again, I state that the simple Fact that you are here, on an INTERNET CONSPIRACY FORUM, openly bragging about what you do, where you live etc, & saying things like 'GPS does not require satellites' can ONLY mean that you are NOT a real missile engineer.

The idea is RIDICULOUS.

So stop your bullshit, engy baby, & get back to fixing the sliding canopy above Doctor Evil's Volcano Lair, or whatever the hell fantasy nonsense it is you get up to in your imagination...
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« Reply #1207 on: December 19, 2015, 03:07:01 PM »
I'm sure you are misunderstanding the Official Secrets Act.  It applies to things that are secret which is NOT the entire occupation.
Has he said anything classified?  Doubt it.

It would be similar in America.  As long as he isn't divulging classified information then nobody cares.
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« Reply #1208 on: December 19, 2015, 04:19:57 PM »
Quote from: sokarul on December 19, 2015, 02:19:19 PM
Quote from: TheEngineer on December 19, 2015, 11:56:04 AM
I don't need you to explain it.  Just provide the quote and prove me wrong.
I already provided evidence. You haven't refuted it yet.
You have provided no evidence whatsoever.  I'm still waiting for even a single quote to back up your outlandish claim.
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« Reply #1209 on: December 19, 2015, 04:39:31 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on December 19, 2015, 04:19:57 PM
Quote from: sokarul on December 19, 2015, 02:19:19 PM
Quote from: TheEngineer on December 19, 2015, 11:56:04 AM
I don't need you to explain it.  Just provide the quote and prove me wrong.
I already provided evidence. You haven't refuted it yet.
You have provided no evidence whatsoever.  I'm still waiting for even a single quote to back up your outlandish claim.
Incorrect.
I linked to the thread where you claimed to have proven an argument using general relativity.
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« Reply #1210 on: December 19, 2015, 04:54:16 PM »
Quote from: Papa Legba on December 19, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
So, yet again, I state that the simple Fact that you are here, on an INTERNET CONSPIRACY FORUM, openly bragging about what you do, where you live etc, & saying things like 'GPS does not require satellites' can ONLY mean that you are NOT a real missile engineer.
Or, it could mean that you have no idea who Engy's employer is or what that employer does or does not allow him to say online.
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« Reply #1211 on: December 19, 2015, 05:22:12 PM »
Quote from: Papa Legba on December 19, 2015, 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: TheEngineer on December 19, 2015, 10:29:01 AM
I am not pretending to be anything.
Incorrect.
You are pretending to be a missile engineer.
Congrats Prof Papa PhD (Rocket Design) we have found something you are 100% right about.
You don't claim to be anything and who would we be to doubt your word?
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« Reply #1212 on: December 19, 2015, 07:25:34 PM »
Quote from: sokarul on December 19, 2015, 04:39:31 PM
I linked to the thread where you claimed to have proven an argument using general relativity.
A link to a thread is not a quote.  Please provide the quote to back up your claim. 
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« Reply #1213 on: December 19, 2015, 07:33:55 PM »
Quote from: Papa Legba on December 19, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
Which means they are not allowed to say a thing about what they do to anyone, even after they have finished working on the project.

The penalties for breaking the Act range from Prison & Fines down to, at the very least, total loss of professional livelihood & being blacklisted for the rest of their lives.
What I do for a living is not classified or even confidential information.  My company even allows for this information to be posted to sites like LinkedIn.  But, of course, I can tell everyone I meet on the street where I work and what I do.
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« Reply #1214 on: December 19, 2015, 08:18:53 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on December 19, 2015, 07:33:55 PM
Quote from: Papa Legba on December 19, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
Which means they are not allowed to say a thing about what they do to anyone, even after they have finished working on the project.

The penalties for breaking the Act range from Prison & Fines down to, at the very least, total loss of professional livelihood & being blacklisted for the rest of their lives.
What I do for a living is not classified or even confidential information.  My company even allows for this information to be posted to sites like LinkedIn.  But, of course, I can tell everyone I meet on the street where I work and what I do.
Of course you can't tell anyone.  You can't even tell the people that you work for what you do because all missile technology is super duper, tippy top, hush hush secret.  Don't you know that Papa Legba knows your business better than you do?
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« Reply #1215 on: December 19, 2015, 09:07:37 PM »
I know, right?
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« Reply #1216 on: December 20, 2015, 12:30:23 AM »
LULZ!!!

Look at all the 'round earthers' sticking up for you, engy baby...

Quote from: frenat on December 19, 2015, 03:07:01 PM
I'm sure you are misunderstanding the Official Secrets Act.  It applies to things that are secret which is NOT the entire occupation.
Has he said anything classified?  Doubt it.
It would be similar in America.  As long as he isn't divulging classified information then nobody cares.

Quote from: rabinoz on December 19, 2015, 05:22:12 PM
Congrats Prof Papa PhD (Rocket Design) we have found something you are 100% right about.
You don't claim to be anything and who would we be to doubt your word?

Quote from: markjo on December 19, 2015, 08:18:53 PM
Of course you can't tell anyone.  You can't even tell the people that you work for what you do because all missile technology is super duper, tippy top, hush hush secret.  Don't you know that Papa Legba knows your business better than you do?

Now why would they be doing that, I wonder?

And, of course, they are all as completely full of shit as engy baby himself.

Because there is still no way that a missile engineer working on advanced/classified military projects would be openly bragging about it on an Internet Conspiracy Forum, saying things like 'GPS does not require satellites', 'sustained space-travel is impossible', giving away details such as where he lives, how many kids he has etc...

This kind of thing only happens in Fiction.

But, as you all clearly inhabit a sci-fi fantasy world, I guess it's a case of 'birds of a feather flock together'.

Now; Carry On Lying!
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« Reply #1217 on: December 20, 2015, 04:11:58 AM »
Quote from: Papa Legba on December 20, 2015, 12:30:23 AM
Now; Carry On Lying!
Well, I'm learning something!
New definition of a liar: Anyone who disagrees with Prof Papa Legba.
Nice to know.
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« Reply #1218 on: December 20, 2015, 05:34:43 AM »
Quote from: rabinoz on December 20, 2015, 04:11:58 AM
Well, I'm learning something!

And the Lies just keep flowing...

How's it going in Doctor Evil's volcano lair btw?

Have you & engy baby worked out what altitude a rocket can actually attain yet?

Or are you both too busy 'enjynerring' an Earthquake-machine, or some other such fantasy super-villain super weapon?

Really; you are all beyond parody.
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« Reply #1219 on: December 20, 2015, 05:53:07 AM »
Quote from: Papa Smurf on December 20, 2015, 12:30:23 AM
LULZ!!!

Look at all the 'round earthers' sticking up for you, engy baby...

Quote from: frenat on December 19, 2015, 03:07:01 PM
I'm sure you are misunderstanding the Official Secrets Act.  It applies to things that are secret which is NOT the entire occupation.
Has he said anything classified?  Doubt it.
It would be similar in America.  As long as he isn't divulging classified information then nobody cares.

Quote from: rabinoz on December 19, 2015, 05:22:12 PM
Congrats Prof Papa PhD (Rocket Design) we have found something you are 100% right about.
You don't claim to be anything and who would we be to doubt your word?

Quote from: markjo on December 19, 2015, 08:18:53 PM
Of course you can't tell anyone.  You can't even tell the people that you work for what you do because all missile technology is super duper, tippy top, hush hush secret.  Don't you know that Papa Legba knows your business better than you do?

Now why would they be doing that, I wonder?

And, of course, they are all as completely full of shit as engy baby himself.

Because there is still no way that a missile engineer working on advanced/classified military projects would be openly bragging about it on an Internet Conspiracy Forum, saying things like 'GPS does not require satellites', 'sustained space-travel is impossible', giving away details such as where he lives, how many kids he has etc...

This kind of thing only happens in Fiction.

But, as you all clearly inhabit a sci-fi fantasy world, I guess it's a case of 'birds of a feather flock together'.

Now; Carry On Lying!
I can't say for the others but I'm "sticking up for him" because you have no idea what you are talking about.  He has not divulged classified information.  The stuff he says are opinions and personal information is not nor ever has been a problem.  YOU are wrong. 
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« Reply #1220 on: December 20, 2015, 06:17:28 AM »
Quote from: shil#3 on December 20, 2015, 05:53:07 AM
I can't say for the others but I'm "sticking up for him" because you have no idea what you are talking about.  He has not divulged classified information.  The stuff he says are opinions and personal information is not nor ever has been a problem.  YOU are wrong.

LULZ!!!

'GPS does not require satellites'?

'Sustained space flight is impossible'?

Any real missile engineer working for the military who expressed the above opinions publicly on an internet conspiracy forum would be dead meat.

Maybe you should look into the fates of the Marconi employees in the same line of work to see what happens to blabbermouth weapons developers?

Because whatever the truth of how & why they died, the end result was to put the absolute Fear of God into everyone else in the industry.

But yeah, engy baby's soopah-speshul & can just say anything he likes on internet conspiracy forums with no come-backs whatsoever...

LMFAO!!!

Oh, & if the State decides it's in their interest to kill you without trial, the Official Secrets Act allows them to do it.

Which is why people who sign it keep VERY quiet about what they do...

So just get the FUCK back in your Austin Powers fantasy world & stop with the bullshit, okay?
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« Reply #1221 on: December 20, 2015, 06:21:05 AM »
Quote from: Papa Smurf on December 20, 2015, 06:17:28 AM
Quote from: frenat on December 20, 2015, 05:53:07 AM
I can't say for the others but I'm "sticking up for him" because you have no idea what you are talking about.  He has not divulged classified information.  The stuff he says are opinions and personal information is not nor ever has been a problem.  YOU are wrong.

LULZ!!!

'GPS does not require satellites'?

'Sustained space flight is impossible'?

Any real missile engineer working for the military who expressed the above opinions publicly on an internet conspiracy forum would be dead meat.

Maybe you should look into the fates of the Marconi employees in the same line of work to see what happens to blabbermouth weapons developers?

Because whatever the truth of how & why they died, the end result was to put the absolute Fear of God into everyone else in the industry.

But yeah, engy baby's soopah-speshul & can just say anything he likes on internet conspiracy forums with no come-backs whatsoever...

LMFAO!!!

Oh, & if the State decides it's in their interest to kill you without trial, the Official Secrets Act allows them to do it.

Which is why people who sign it keep VERY quiet about what they do...

So just get the FUCK back in your Austin Powers fantasy world & stop with the bullshit, okay?
Perhaps you could prove his employers know or care what he posts on the internet as long as he isn't divulging classified information and/or saying bad things about his employer?  Without that you've got nothing.  But we all know you won't even try to prove that, don't we?  Ever find where you say I claimed to be a non-native english speaker?
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« Reply #1222 on: December 20, 2015, 06:44:34 AM »
Wtf is wrong with you?

I don't have to prove a damn thing about him or his employers.

Because if 'GPS does not require satellites' & 'sustained spaceflight is impossible' are NOT examples of revealing Classified Information then I don't know what is!

If it's true, then his employers, as well as the Military, would have his guts for garters for revealing this info, especially on an internet conspiracy forum ffs; he'd be FINISHED.

Like I said already: the simple fact that he is here, blabbing away like a schoolgirl, is conclusive proof that he is totally full of shit.

End of story...

Now; Carry On Lying!
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« Reply #1223 on: December 20, 2015, 06:48:47 AM »
Quote from: Papa Legba on December 20, 2015, 06:44:34 AM
Wtf is wrong with you?

I don't have to prove a damn thing about him or his employers.

Because if 'GPS does not require satellites' & 'sustained spaceflight is impossible' are NOT examples of revealing Classified Information then I don't know what is!

If it's true, then his employers, as well as the Military, would have his guts for garters for revealing this info, especially on an internet conspiracy forum ffs; he'd be FINISHED.

Like I said already: the simple fact that he is here, blabbing away like a schoolgirl, is conclusive proof that he is totally full of shit.

End of story...

Now; Carry On Lying!
IF it's true.  Key word there is if.  Even IF true, he would have to have learned it from his employer, they would have to prove that and it would have to be classified and they would have to prove that.  Looks more like opinion and STILL makes the assumption that anybody is watching or cares which you have yet to prove and which I knew you wouldn't even try.  All you've got is handwaving and bluster. 

So that's a no on finding where you say I claimed to be a non-native english speaker then?
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« Reply #1224 on: December 20, 2015, 07:14:39 AM »
Quote from: Papa Legba on December 20, 2015, 06:44:34 AM
Wtf is wrong with you?

I don't have to prove a damn thing about him or his employers.

Because if 'GPS does not require satellites' & 'sustained spaceflight is impossible' are NOT examples of revealing Classified Information then I don't know what is!
You're right, you don't know.  If you knew anything at all about how GPS works, you would know that there is no technical reason that the same functionality could not be achieved with ground based or aerial transmitters.  And if lurked moar, you would know that Engy is careful to always qualify the statement about sustained space flight being impossible in the context of a flat earth.   Notice that he never says that GPS does not use satellites or that sustained space flight is impossible on a round earth.

By the way, both of those topics have been discussed in depth on this site, so Engy wouldn't be the only one in trouble.
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« Reply #1225 on: December 20, 2015, 07:36:14 AM »
LULZ!!!

You really need to look into what happened to all those Marconi engineers...

Bye-bye, blabber-mouths & security risks; you DEAD!

Hey - engy baby must've heard about them; they were all in the same line of work as him.

So why don't we wait for HIS opinion on it, eh?

You know; rather than listening to all the biggest shills on this site sticking up for him whilst he hides?

LOL!!!

What a fucking farce you all are!
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« Reply #1226 on: December 20, 2015, 08:04:58 AM »
Quote from: Papa Smurf on December 20, 2015, 07:36:14 AM
LULZ!!!

You really need to look into what happened to all those Marconi engineers...

Bye-bye, blabber-mouths & security risks; you DEAD!

Hey - engy baby must've heard about them; they were all in the same line of work as him.

So why don't we wait for HIS opinion on it, eh?

You know; rather than listening to all the biggest shills on this site sticking up for him whilst he hides?

LOL!!!

What a fucking farce you all are!
Did they divulge classified information?  Since you can't be bothered to post a link we may never know.  Has any classified info been posted here?  No. 

Posting again because apparently you didn't read the first time.  (big surprise there  ::) )

IF it's true.  Key word there is if.  Even IF true, he would have to have learned it from his employer, they would have to prove that and it would have to be classified and they would have to prove that.  Looks more like opinion and STILL makes the assumption that anybody is watching or cares which you have yet to prove and which I knew you wouldn't even try.  All you've got is handwaving and bluster. 

So that's a no on finding where you say I claimed to be a non-native english speaker then?
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« Reply #1227 on: December 20, 2015, 09:19:57 AM »
Quote from: Papa Legba on December 20, 2015, 07:36:14 AM
You really need to look into what happened to all those Marconi engineers...
Gotta get those engineers before the word gets out about the torpedoes!

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Hey - engy baby must've heard about them; they were all in the same line of work as him.
Nope.  Had to look it up.

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You know; rather than listening to all the biggest shills on this site sticking up for him whilst he hides?
It's called 'sleeping'.  Something I do every day.  Sometimes twice a day on weekends.

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LOL!!!
I agree!
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« Reply #1228 on: December 20, 2015, 09:28:00 AM »
Quote from: shill#1 on December 20, 2015, 08:04:58 AM
Posting again because apparently you didn't read the first time

Nah; you're posting again in a desperate attempt to flush all my previous posts down the memory-hole.

Because that's your job.

Engy baby is a total bullshitter.

No-one in the line of work he claims to be in would posture & brag on it like he does on an Internet Conspiracy Forum.

Because if they did, they would be dead meat.

Google 'Marconi engineers mysterious deaths' to find out what happens to weapons developers who fuck up in the Real World.

Not nice, eh?

And, I assure you, what happened back then taught everyone in the industry a BIG lesson, namely - 'The 1st rule of weapons development club is: YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT WEAPONS DEVELOPMENT CLUB!'

But silly James Bond fantasists like engy baby are free to do whatever they please...

Because nobody important cares about their bullshit.

Anyhoo; Carry On Lying!

And oh, look!

Just as I was writing this, engy baby had a post ready to go...

Just like markjo somehow always manages to do.

Of course, he has no real answers to any of my points...

But that's cos he's soopah-speshul & immune to all the laws governing everyone else in his profession!

GTFO.


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Re: People on skateboards.
« Reply #1229 on: December 20, 2015, 09:42:07 AM »
Quote from: Papa Smurf on December 20, 2015, 09:28:00 AM
Quote from: frenat on December 20, 2015, 08:04:58 AM
Posting again because apparently you didn't read the first time

Nah; you're posting again in a desperate attempt to flush all my previous posts down the memory-hole.

Because that's your job.
Wrong.  I want people to see your previous posts.  I want them to see that you accused me of claiming to be a non-native English speaker and then couldn't back up your lie.  I want them to see your handwaving and bluster.

Quote from: Papa Smurf on December 20, 2015, 09:28:00 AM
Engy baby is a total bullshitter.

No-one in the line of work he claims to be in would posture & brag on it like he does on an Internet Conspiracy Forum.

Because if they did, they would be dead meat.
If only you could prove he is bragging about anything classified and/or that anybody is watching or cares then you might have a point.  But you know you don't.

Quote from: Papa Smurf on December 20, 2015, 09:28:00 AM
Google 'Marconi engineers mysterious deaths' to find out what happens to weapons developers who fuck up in the Real World.

Not nice, eh?
I've found an unproven theory that they were silenced for unknown reasons.  If they had been divulging classified information it would have been far more effective to try them for treason in public so that people would actually know about it.  What you have now is something few have heard about and none have shown a reason for.  Might as well be a myth.  Why am I not surprised that you seem to think it proves something?   ::)

Quote from: Papa Smurf on December 20, 2015, 09:28:00 AM
And, I assure you, what happened back then taught everyone in the industry a BIG lesson, namely - 'The 1st rule of weapons development club is: YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT WEAPONS DEVELOPMENT CLUB!'
Please point out where he has posted classified weapons development information.  I'm betting you won't.
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