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Re: People on skateboards.
« Reply #1170 on: December 17, 2015, 11:56:32 PM »
Well, technically, I'm a missile engineer (hence the name).

Yeah; right.

The Fact is, people in your line of work have to sign all sorts of confidentiality agreements and are very careful what they say & to whom they say it, even to their closest friends & family.

So the idea that you'd not only brag openly about it to the entire world on the internet, but would do so as the moderator of a flat earth Conspiracy Forum, is total & utter BULLSHIT.

And when you throw bonus bullshit like this into the mix:

Flying is but a hobby for me.  A very, very expensive hobby.

You come over like a wannabe Austin Powers, International man of Mystery.

But wearing Clown-shoes & a red nose...

Sorry, 'engy baby', you are Busted.
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« Reply #1171 on: December 18, 2015, 12:26:11 AM »
Well, technically, I'm a missile engineer (hence the name).
Yeah; right.
The Fact is, people in your line of work have to sign all sorts of confidentiality agreements and are very careful what they say & to whom they say it, even to their closest friends & family.
So the idea that you'd not only brag openly about it to the entire world on the internet, but would do so as the moderator of a flat earth Conspiracy Forum, is total & utter BULLSHIT.
And when you throw bonus bullshit like this into the mix:
Flying is but a hobby for me.  A very, very expensive hobby.
You come over like a wannabe Austin Powers, International man of Mystery.
But wearing Clown-shoes & a red nose...
Sorry, 'engy baby', you are Busted.

Congrats, Leggy.  It's so good to see that you don't discriminate with your insults!  I was getting a complex for a while.

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« Reply #1172 on: December 18, 2015, 01:06:29 AM »
I wan't insulting engy baby; I was pointing out, quite logically & correctly, that he is a bullshitter.

The same as I do when I point out here that you cannot count to Three:

Object A is the Rocket + unburnt fuel, Object F is the burning fuel, and Object B is the thousands of pounds of fuel being ejected out the back.

Note that you are trying to tell us that Objects F & B are the exact same thing.

Here's a hint for you, rab: One, Two, Three.

Remember that!

Not One, Two, Two again...

But One, Two, Three.

I believe there is a puppet vampire called Count Von Count on Sesame Street who may be able to help you further should you require it?

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« Reply #1173 on: December 18, 2015, 04:32:11 AM »
Here's a hint for you, rab: One, Two, Three.
Oh, right: ein, zwei, drei oops maybe un, deux, trois - something doesn't sound right, maybe I'll get it soon,
but YOU still cannot answer ONE simple question! 
Or even tell me what law on nature demands that your rocket needs "One, Two, Three" because everyone except papa seems to know that burnt fuel has mass and so is subject to certain rules - you know like "conservation of momentum".

I am not even asking your rocket to work in you know that magic v..... place, or the s.... place - just how how high in the atmosphere.  Too hard, maybe ask Engy!

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« Reply #1174 on: December 18, 2015, 05:04:27 AM »
Too hard, maybe ask Engy!

Lulz!

Now you know engy baby's as big a fraud as yourself you're right up his backside...

A missile engineer blabbing & boasting away as moderator on a Conspiracy forum?

Yeah, right, cos THAT'S not a massive security risk!

What world do you live in where that's even remotely possible?

Oh; we already know - 'Austin Powers, International Man of Mystery' world...

Yeah, engy baby, yeah!
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« Reply #1175 on: December 18, 2015, 11:15:52 AM »
The Fact is, people in your line of work have to sign all sorts of confidentiality agreements and are very careful what they say & to whom they say it, even to their closest friends & family.
Right.  And I am very careful about what I say and to whom I say it. 

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So the idea that you'd not only brag openly about it to the entire world on the internet, but would do so as the moderator of a flat earth Conspiracy Forum, is total & utter BULLSHIT.
My company has strict limits as to what you can post on social sites/forums about your job, and I follow those explicitly.

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Flying is but a hobby for me.  A very, very expensive hobby.
You come over like a wannabe Austin Powers, International man of Mystery.
How does having a pilot's license make me a wannabe Austin Powers, exactly?

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Sorry, 'engy baby', you are Busted.
Sorry, but that was pretty lame.



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« Reply #1176 on: December 18, 2015, 12:10:26 PM »
Complete bullshit, Walter Mitty.

If you are what you say you are you wouldn't be here at all, let alone be a moderator.

No. Fucking. Way.

Oh; unless you work for Doctor Evil, perhaps?

Maybe his 'company' has laxer 'limits' than those who work for the military?

He does have a pool full of laser-armed sharks, though, as I recall...

Are you perhaps in charge of 'engineering' them?

In summary: GTFO, STFU, LOL!!! & FAIL.
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« Reply #1177 on: December 18, 2015, 12:19:16 PM »
If you are what you say you are you wouldn't be here at all, let alone be a moderator.
The fact that I am here as a moderator, proves your statement incorrect.


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« Reply #1178 on: December 19, 2015, 12:46:41 AM »
Are you still here, pretending to be a missile engineer?

Sorry, engy baby; that ship has sailed.

Everyone with the slightest experience of such matters knows that you are not.

Now; get back to tweaking the lasers on Doctor Evil's sharks & give someone else a turn with the Clown-shoes.

Like rab downunder here:

Rockets do operate quite successfully to quite high altitudes.

Quite...

And that's exactly what I've been saying; glad you finally saw the light!

But they do not operate in a vacuum.

You know why?

That's right: because YOU CANNOT PUSH ON NOTHING.
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« Reply #1179 on: December 19, 2015, 01:23:04 AM »
Like rab downunder here:
Rockets do operate quite successfully to quite high altitudes.
And that's exactly what I've been saying; glad you finally saw the light!

But they do not operate in a vacuum.
So the famous rocket engineer,  Prof Papa Legba says,  but even this expert can't tell us just how high TheEngineer's missiles can go!  Don't you think that is something he might need to know!  What a loser!

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« Reply #1180 on: December 19, 2015, 01:34:38 AM »
even this expert can't tell us just how high TheEngineer's missiles can go!

LULZ!!!

It's Fantasy-Time again for the henchmen in Doctor Evil's Lair...

Let's look at some more of your nonsense:

we all know a rocket does work up to a very high altitude - and still you don't know just when it STOPS WORKING!
It is absolutely useless only knowing what will not work, when you do not know what will work

'quite high'... 'very high'... will not work'... 'will work'... 'STOPS WORKING'...

Rab Downunder takes the Clown-shoes & Red nose & is up & running.

Where will it all end?

An enormous custard-pie fight?
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Re: People on skateboards.
« Reply #1181 on: December 19, 2015, 02:11:58 AM »
Not a straight answer in at least 10 pages....

LOL Cindy!

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« Reply #1182 on: December 19, 2015, 02:22:53 AM »
*Yawn!*

The poodle awakes...

Here's some 'straight answers', Fido:

Let us again consider the 'combustion chamber' of  a rocket:

The combustion chamber of a rocket is open to the near-infinite vacuum of space.

Therefore, no gas can even be meaningfully said to exist within it, let alone combust.

Any gas introduced therein when the pressurised fuel tank leading to the combustion chamber is opened will simply expand freely into the enormous, zero-pressure vacuum, following the path of least resistance & doing no work whatsoever.

This will continue for as long as the fuel tank & chamber are open to the vacuum, until both exterior & interior pressures are equalised at zero.

It is a beautifully simple concept, fully supported by All the laws of physics, yet you 'round earthers' (lol!) just can't seem to grasp it...


Plus this:

You all claim that the recoil of a gun is a valid analogy for how a rocket works in a vacuum.

Here is why it is not:

With a gun you have object A, the mass of the gun; the expanding propellant, P, the gunpowder, sited between them; and object B, the mass of the bullet.

But with a rocket you ONLY have object A, the mass of the rocket,  & the expanding propellant, P, the fuel.

No object B, see?

Thus, you have removed the necessary recoil mass required to produce motion.

But we know a rocket DOES produce motion, don't we?

Ergo, some other mass MUST be taking the place of object B.

& the ONLY possibility for that other mass is the Atmosphere.

Ergo, NO atmosphere, NO motion; rockets CANNOT function in a vacuum.

Q.E.D.

No matter how hard you try to spin it, cultists, every child knows that You cannot Push on Nothing.

No maths required; only common sense.



Then there's the fact that you are all trying desperately to confine this 'debate' to the wrong branch of physics, i.e. Solid Mechanics rather than Fluid Mechanics...

Kinda dishonest of you, dontcha think?

Pressure-Gradient Forces, Gas Laws, Fluid Mechanics, Continuum Assumption & Joules Expansion are the areas I suggest neutral readers research.

Oh; & Thermodynamics too - thanks for that, markjo!
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« Reply #1183 on: December 19, 2015, 04:11:17 AM »
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Still no answer.  Just saying it will not work in a vacuum is NOT an answer.  What did teacher always say?  "Read the question, before you try to answer!".
So you fail again.

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« Reply #1184 on: December 19, 2015, 04:35:21 AM »
Just saying it will not work in a vacuum is NOT an answer.

*Yawn!*

Look what you wrote earlier:

It is absolutely useless only knowing what will not work

Flip-flopped from 'knowing' to 'saying', have we, Mr. The Troll?

Gotta disagree with you anyhow; 'knowing what will not work' is pretty useful if you actually want to accomplish something.

Any other dumbass non-sequiturs you want to throw in before you admit you have completely forgotten your original troll-point?

How's the henchman-ing going btw?

You jazzed up them shark-lasers yet?

And what's it like living in a volcano?

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« Reply #1185 on: December 19, 2015, 08:39:58 AM »
Let us again consider the 'combustion chamber' of  a rocket:

The combustion chamber of a rocket is open to the near-infinite vacuum of space.
Well, one end of it is.

Therefore, no gas can even be meaningfully said to exist within it, let alone combust.
Not ever?  Not even for an instant?

Any gas introduced therein when the pressurised fuel tank leading to the combustion chamber is opened will simply expand freely into the enormous, zero-pressure vacuum, following the path of least resistance & doing no work whatsoever.
Are you saying that any gas introduced into the combustion chamber does not exist within the combustion chamber?  What happens, does the gas teleport from the inlet to the nozzle?

This will continue for as long as the fuel tank & chamber are open to the vacuum, until both exterior & interior pressures are equalised at zero.
So you admit that as long as the interior pressure and exterior pressures are not equal, then the pressure inside the combustion chamber is not equal to zero?

It is a beautifully simple concept, fully supported by All the laws of physics, yet you 'round earthers' (lol!) just can't seem to grasp it...
Aren't you a round earther?

Plus this:

You all claim that the recoil of a gun is a valid analogy for how a rocket works in a vacuum.
Why do you keep bringing up the gun analogy in a thread that you started called "People on skateboards"?  Can't you stay on topic in your own thread?
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« Reply #1186 on: December 19, 2015, 09:05:27 AM »
I am truly sorry that you are unable to process such simple information; again, I urge you to book an appointment with your doctor & get a referral to a memory clinic for thorough testing.

I will address one point you make, however:

Aren't you a round earther?

No, I am not.

Nor am I a flat earther.

False dichotomies & Hegelian dialectic traps are such a Bore, don't you know?

Have I not already mentioned that Legba sees all voodoo?

Well, he does...

It's kind of his job, you know!

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« Reply #1187 on: December 19, 2015, 09:57:37 AM »
I am truly sorry that you are unable to process such simple information...
I'm truly sorry that you are unable to see how that simple information proves how wrong you are.

Have I not already mentioned that Legba sees all voodoo?
Have I not mentioned that you're full of bovine excrement?
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« Reply #1188 on: December 19, 2015, 10:29:01 AM »
Are you still here, pretending to be a missile engineer?
I am still here.  However I am not pretending to be anything.

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Sorry, engy baby; that ship has sailed.
It would have been funnier if you had said 'that rocket has launched'.  But alas, your wit is sorely lacking.

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Everyone with the slightest experience of such matters knows that you are not.
Says the guy with no experience in such matters.


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« Reply #1189 on: December 19, 2015, 10:48:48 AM »
So I noticed that you still have not provided a quote.  Why would that be...?

Pay attention. You think you can prove an argument using general relativity. This would imply general relativity has been proven. Understand yet?

Do you now agree you can't prove scientific arguments, thus being wrong?
Do you think you can prove scientific arguments, thus being wrong?
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« Reply #1190 on: December 19, 2015, 10:57:03 AM »
I'm sorry, I didn't see the quote you are supposed to provide.  Why would that be?


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« Reply #1191 on: December 19, 2015, 10:58:54 AM »
I'm sorry, I didn't see the quote you are supposed to provide.  Why would that be?
What I see is you cowering out like a bitch.
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« Reply #1192 on: December 19, 2015, 11:04:59 AM »
What I see is the latest instance of you being wrong.  Interesting that you can't provide a quote of mine in which I stated I have proven General Relativity.  Especially since I know you've been feverishly searching for just one instance in which I have said anything even remotely resembling what you accused me of. 

sokarul the discount chemist strikes again.


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« Reply #1193 on: December 19, 2015, 11:06:59 AM »
What I see is the latest instance of you being wrong.  Interesting that you can't provide a quote of mine in which I stated I have proven General Relativity.  Especially since I know you've been feverishly searching for just one instance in which I have said anything even remotely resembling what you accused me of. 

sokarul the discount chemist strikes again.
I showed how you implied general relativity was 100 percent correct. You will not acknowledge this as you don't have a rebuttal for it, and instead just keep asking for a quote.
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« Reply #1194 on: December 19, 2015, 11:21:15 AM »
A refresher:
...I had higher expectations from someone who thinks they proved General Relativity.

So, show me where I claimed to have proven General Relativity ("100 percent correct" no less!).  You would think that would be easy.  Oh, except for that tiny little detail that you are wrong.  Again.


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« Reply #1195 on: December 19, 2015, 11:24:40 AM »
Pay attention. You think you can prove an argument using general relativity. This would imply general relativity has been proven. Understand yet?
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« Reply #1196 on: December 19, 2015, 11:29:20 AM »
Sorry, I forgot I was talking to discount chemist sokarul.  Please provide a quote of MY post where I claimed to have proven GR.  Not a quote of your own post claiming I said something I didn't say.

Why are you making this so hard sokarul?  This should be easy.  Show us where I made the claim.  But we all know why you can't...


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« Reply #1197 on: December 19, 2015, 11:34:13 AM »
Just say you don't understand and I explain it again.
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« Reply #1198 on: December 19, 2015, 11:56:04 AM »
I don't need you to explain it.  Just provide the quote and prove me wrong.


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« Reply #1199 on: December 19, 2015, 12:58:14 PM »
I am not pretending to be anything.

Incorrect.

You are pretending to be a missile engineer.

And understanding why you are not a missile engineer is a very simple matter.

Because if you were, you would not tell us you were.

You wouldn't be here at all, in fact.

So knock it off with the bullshit, okay, Austin Powers?

Because no-one is buying it.

Now; carry on with your equally bullshit derailing/diversion pretend 'dispute' with sokarul...

No-one's buying that either, but fraud & lies seems to be all you both have to offer.
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