How old is the flat earth?

Is it the same age as the earth in the RET? how did the FE came to be if not from the big bang? are the other stars and planets older or younger than FE?

Thank you very much!

These are philosophical questions for both RE and FE, the best answer is the one that most makes sense to you. Unfortunately the truth of the matter can never be known for certain and you will easily find yourself in an endless number of debates on these subjects.

 

Is it the same age as the earth in the RET? how did the FE came to be if not from the big bang? are the other stars and planets older or younger than FE?

Thank you very much!

Those are far more complex questions than can really be answered by the adherents of the FE model, simply due to what we have access to. To my mind, it seems likely that the age, origin and surroundings are fairly similar to the RE model: there is not necessarily any reason the big bang could not have caused the FE model, as the laws of physics would necessarily be altered from what you're used to for a FE to be possible rather than a RE.
Personally I believe that gravity exerted by one mass may interfere with the gravity from another mass. This would explain the origin of the flat Earth (if we exist between two large masses), and similar side-effects and related laws have wide-ranging effects. This is currently a tenuous hypothesis, but once the model's complete I should be able to test and confirm or deny it.

Radioactive dating suggests 4,54 billion years +-1%

The world is approximately 6000 years old.

The world is approximately 6000 years old.

Bollocks!

Quote from: Testify on September 22, 2015, 11:12:06 AM

The world is approximately 6000 years old.

Bollocks!

God is not a liar. We have the genealogy of Jesus Christ dating back to Adam, and we know Jesus lived approximately 2000 years ago. I trust God's word more than that of a foul-mouthed individual with an experience spanning scant decades.

Luke 3:23-38

And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge, which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er, which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim, which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David, which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson, which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor, which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala, which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech, which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

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Quote from: Testify on September 22, 2015, 11:12:06 AM

The world is approximately 6000 years old.

Bollocks!

God is not a liar. We have the genealogy of Jesus Christ dating back to Adam, and we know Jesus lived approximately 2000 years ago. I trust God's word more than that of a foul-mouthed individual with an experience spanning scant decades.

Luke 3:23-38

And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge, which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er, which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim, which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David, which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson, which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor, which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala, which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech, which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

The earth is NOT 6000 years old at all.

You can quote as much of the bible as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that you're just an ignorant fool, who I assume is a big disappointment to their god - surely he must be seeking followers who actually have a few clues, and clearly you do NOT.

God must despise those who cannot educate themselves, therefore he despises you as a hopeless follower.

The earth is NOT 6000 years old at all.

You can quote as much of the bible as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that you're just an ignorant fool, who I assume is a big disappointment to their god - surely he must be seeking followers who actually have a few clues, and clearly you do NOT.

God must despise those who cannot educate themselves, therefore he despises you as a hopeless follower.

Do you believe God is a liar?

Quote from: chtwrone on September 22, 2015, 02:20:21 PM

The earth is NOT 6000 years old at all.

You can quote as much of the bible as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that you're just an ignorant fool, who I assume is a big disappointment to their god - surely he must be seeking followers who actually have a few clues, and clearly you do NOT.

God must despise those who cannot educate themselves, therefore he despises you as a hopeless follower.

Do you believe God is a liar?

We know it's 4,5billions years proven by certaintly whitin 1%, does it make you angry or sad that god lied to you?

Quote from: Testify on September 22, 2015, 02:28:45 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 22, 2015, 02:20:21 PM

The earth is NOT 6000 years old at all.

You can quote as much of the bible as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that you're just an ignorant fool, who I assume is a big disappointment to their god - surely he must be seeking followers who actually have a few clues, and clearly you do NOT.

God must despise those who cannot educate themselves, therefore he despises you as a hopeless follower.

Do you believe God is a liar?

We know it's 4,5billions years proven by certaintly whitin 1%, does it make you angry or sad that god lied to you?

We do not. Studies carried about likely by demons or those tempted by demons, on methods and a basis devised by the same, do not give an accurate picture of God's Earth.

Quote from: sircool on September 23, 2015, 11:51:13 PM

Quote from: Testify on September 22, 2015, 02:28:45 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 22, 2015, 02:20:21 PM

The earth is NOT 6000 years old at all.

You can quote as much of the bible as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that you're just an ignorant fool, who I assume is a big disappointment to their god - surely he must be seeking followers who actually have a few clues, and clearly you do NOT.

God must despise those who cannot educate themselves, therefore he despises you as a hopeless follower.

Do you believe God is a liar?

We know it's 4,5billions years proven by certaintly whitin 1%, does it make you angry or sad that god lied to you?

We do not. Studies carried about likely by demons or those tempted by demons, on methods and a basis devised by the same, do not give an accurate picture of God's Earth.

What are demons, are they scientists? Why do they do this?  How do you know all this?  U misunderstand me, they calculate the accuracy to be within plus/minus 1% and its not the picture its the age that is the issue.

Quote from: Testify on September 24, 2015, 04:24:03 AM

Quote from: sircool on September 23, 2015, 11:51:13 PM

Quote from: Testify on September 22, 2015, 02:28:45 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 22, 2015, 02:20:21 PM

The earth is NOT 6000 years old at all.

You can quote as much of the bible as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that you're just an ignorant fool, who I assume is a big disappointment to their god - surely he must be seeking followers who actually have a few clues, and clearly you do NOT.

God must despise those who cannot educate themselves, therefore he despises you as a hopeless follower.

Do you believe God is a liar?

We know it's 4,5billions years proven by certaintly whitin 1%, does it make you angry or sad that god lied to you?

We do not. Studies carried about likely by demons or those tempted by demons, on methods and a basis devised by the same, do not give an accurate picture of God's Earth.

What are demons, are they scientists? Why do they do this?  How do you know all this?  U misunderstand me, they calculate the accuracy to be within plus/minus 1% and its not the picture its the age that is the issue.

Demons are fallen angels who seek to draw worship away from God, because they hate Him. All this is spoken of in God's word. All answers are in the Bible, though some require some thought and prayer to realize.
The age they claim to have calculated is not accurate, no matter the accuracy they say they have. We have the genealogy of Jesus all the way to Adam. The world is not millions of years old.

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Quote from: Testify on September 24, 2015, 04:24:03 AM

Quote from: sircool on September 23, 2015, 11:51:13 PM

Quote from: Testify on September 22, 2015, 02:28:45 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 22, 2015, 02:20:21 PM

The earth is NOT 6000 years old at all.

You can quote as much of the bible as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that you're just an ignorant fool, who I assume is a big disappointment to their god - surely he must be seeking followers who actually have a few clues, and clearly you do NOT.

God must despise those who cannot educate themselves, therefore he despises you as a hopeless follower.

Do you believe God is a liar?

We know it's 4,5billions years proven by certaintly whitin 1%, does it make you angry or sad that god lied to you?

We do not. Studies carried about likely by demons or those tempted by demons, on methods and a basis devised by the same, do not give an accurate picture of God's Earth.

What are demons, are they scientists? Why do they do this?  How do you know all this?  U misunderstand me, they calculate the accuracy to be within plus/minus 1% and its not the picture its the age that is the issue.

Demons are fallen angels who seek to draw worship away from God, because they hate Him. All this is spoken of in God's word. All answers are in the Bible, though some require some thought and prayer to realize.
The age they claim to have calculated is not accurate, no matter the accuracy they say they have. We have the genealogy of Jesus all the way to Adam. The world is not millions of years old.

There is no mention of automobiles in the bible.

Are automobiles the work of Satan, if God's word has not sactioned them?

Are rockets the work of Satan as well?

Are rockets not real, just like aeroplanes are real?

Quote from: Testify on September 24, 2015, 05:07:51 AM

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Quote from: Testify on September 24, 2015, 04:24:03 AM

Quote from: sircool on September 23, 2015, 11:51:13 PM

Quote from: Testify on September 22, 2015, 02:28:45 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 22, 2015, 02:20:21 PM

The earth is NOT 6000 years old at all.

You can quote as much of the bible as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that you're just an ignorant fool, who I assume is a big disappointment to their god - surely he must be seeking followers who actually have a few clues, and clearly you do NOT.

God must despise those who cannot educate themselves, therefore he despises you as a hopeless follower.

Do you believe God is a liar?

We know it's 4,5billions years proven by certaintly whitin 1%, does it make you angry or sad that god lied to you?

We do not. Studies carried about likely by demons or those tempted by demons, on methods and a basis devised by the same, do not give an accurate picture of God's Earth.

What are demons, are they scientists? Why do they do this?  How do you know all this?  U misunderstand me, they calculate the accuracy to be within plus/minus 1% and its not the picture its the age that is the issue.

Demons are fallen angels who seek to draw worship away from God, because they hate Him. All this is spoken of in God's word. All answers are in the Bible, though some require some thought and prayer to realize.
The age they claim to have calculated is not accurate, no matter the accuracy they say they have. We have the genealogy of Jesus all the way to Adam. The world is not millions of years old.

There is no mention of automobiles in the bible.

Are automobiles the work of Satan, if God's word has not sactioned them?

Are rockets the work of Satan as well?

Are rockets not real, just like aeroplanes are real?

Trivialities not being mentioned in detail does not mean they do not exist. I am concerned primarily with what God does state.

Also, Nahum 2:4 does mention cars.

Quote from: chtwrone on September 24, 2015, 02:16:28 PM

Quote from: Testify on September 24, 2015, 05:07:51 AM

Quote from: sircool on September 24, 2015, 05:04:40 AM

Quote from: Testify on September 24, 2015, 04:24:03 AM

Quote from: sircool on September 23, 2015, 11:51:13 PM

Quote from: Testify on September 22, 2015, 02:28:45 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 22, 2015, 02:20:21 PM

The earth is NOT 6000 years old at all.

You can quote as much of the bible as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that you're just an ignorant fool, who I assume is a big disappointment to their god - surely he must be seeking followers who actually have a few clues, and clearly you do NOT.

God must despise those who cannot educate themselves, therefore he despises you as a hopeless follower.

Do you believe God is a liar?

We know it's 4,5billions years proven by certaintly whitin 1%, does it make you angry or sad that god lied to you?

We do not. Studies carried about likely by demons or those tempted by demons, on methods and a basis devised by the same, do not give an accurate picture of God's Earth.

What are demons, are they scientists? Why do they do this?  How do you know all this?  U misunderstand me, they calculate the accuracy to be within plus/minus 1% and its not the picture its the age that is the issue.

Demons are fallen angels who seek to draw worship away from God, because they hate Him. All this is spoken of in God's word. All answers are in the Bible, though some require some thought and prayer to realize.
The age they claim to have calculated is not accurate, no matter the accuracy they say they have. We have the genealogy of Jesus all the way to Adam. The world is not millions of years old.

There is no mention of automobiles in the bible.

Are automobiles the work of Satan, if God's word has not sactioned them?

Are rockets the work of Satan as well?

Are rockets not real, just like aeroplanes are real?

Trivialities not being mentioned in detail does not mean they do not exist. I am concerned primarily with what God does state.

Also, Nahum 2:4 does mention cars.

Liar Liar!!! Lying demon i condemn you to hell you lying, manipulating demon!!! Burn him on the fire. He is lying the bible says nothing of cars.

Quote from: Testify on September 24, 2015, 02:29:39 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 24, 2015, 02:16:28 PM

Quote from: Testify on September 24, 2015, 05:07:51 AM

Quote from: sircool on September 24, 2015, 05:04:40 AM

Quote from: Testify on September 24, 2015, 04:24:03 AM

Quote from: sircool on September 23, 2015, 11:51:13 PM

Quote from: Testify on September 22, 2015, 02:28:45 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 22, 2015, 02:20:21 PM

The earth is NOT 6000 years old at all.

You can quote as much of the bible as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that you're just an ignorant fool, who I assume is a big disappointment to their god - surely he must be seeking followers who actually have a few clues, and clearly you do NOT.

God must despise those who cannot educate themselves, therefore he despises you as a hopeless follower.

Do you believe God is a liar?

We know it's 4,5billions years proven by certaintly whitin 1%, does it make you angry or sad that god lied to you?

We do not. Studies carried about likely by demons or those tempted by demons, on methods and a basis devised by the same, do not give an accurate picture of God's Earth.

What are demons, are they scientists? Why do they do this?  How do you know all this?  U misunderstand me, they calculate the accuracy to be within plus/minus 1% and its not the picture its the age that is the issue.

Demons are fallen angels who seek to draw worship away from God, because they hate Him. All this is spoken of in God's word. All answers are in the Bible, though some require some thought and prayer to realize.
The age they claim to have calculated is not accurate, no matter the accuracy they say they have. We have the genealogy of Jesus all the way to Adam. The world is not millions of years old.

There is no mention of automobiles in the bible.

Are automobiles the work of Satan, if God's word has not sactioned them?

Are rockets the work of Satan as well?

Are rockets not real, just like aeroplanes are real?

Trivialities not being mentioned in detail does not mean they do not exist. I am concerned primarily with what God does state.

Also, Nahum 2:4 does mention cars.

Liar Liar!!! Lying demon i condemn you to hell you lying, manipulating demon!!! Burn him on the fire. He is lying the bible says nothing of cars.

Nahum 2:4 The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall justle one against another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like the lightnings.

How else would you describe a car in those times? There was no word for car in Aramaic or Hebrew, and to any observer they would be particularly bright, shiny chariots with abnormal speed: and in roads they certainly do jostle on 'broader' streets.
I do not lie. If all you have to respond to God's word with is threats and insults, you may want to consider why the Bible angers you so. Open your heart and He will come inside you.

Quote from: sircool on September 25, 2015, 03:18:16 AM

Quote from: Testify on September 24, 2015, 02:29:39 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 24, 2015, 02:16:28 PM

Quote from: Testify on September 24, 2015, 05:07:51 AM

Quote from: sircool on September 24, 2015, 05:04:40 AM

Quote from: Testify on September 24, 2015, 04:24:03 AM

Quote from: sircool on September 23, 2015, 11:51:13 PM

Quote from: Testify on September 22, 2015, 02:28:45 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 22, 2015, 02:20:21 PM

The earth is NOT 6000 years old at all.

You can quote as much of the bible as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that you're just an ignorant fool, who I assume is a big disappointment to their god - surely he must be seeking followers who actually have a few clues, and clearly you do NOT.

God must despise those who cannot educate themselves, therefore he despises you as a hopeless follower.

Do you believe God is a liar?

We know it's 4,5billions years proven by certaintly whitin 1%, does it make you angry or sad that god lied to you?

We do not. Studies carried about likely by demons or those tempted by demons, on methods and a basis devised by the same, do not give an accurate picture of God's Earth.

What are demons, are they scientists? Why do they do this?  How do you know all this?  U misunderstand me, they calculate the accuracy to be within plus/minus 1% and its not the picture its the age that is the issue.

Demons are fallen angels who seek to draw worship away from God, because they hate Him. All this is spoken of in God's word. All answers are in the Bible, though some require some thought and prayer to realize.
The age they claim to have calculated is not accurate, no matter the accuracy they say they have. We have the genealogy of Jesus all the way to Adam. The world is not millions of years old.

There is no mention of automobiles in the bible.

Are automobiles the work of Satan, if God's word has not sactioned them?

Are rockets the work of Satan as well?

Are rockets not real, just like aeroplanes are real?

Trivialities not being mentioned in detail does not mean they do not exist. I am concerned primarily with what God does state.

Also, Nahum 2:4 does mention cars.

Liar Liar!!! Lying demon i condemn you to hell you lying, manipulating demon!!! Burn him on the fire. He is lying the bible says nothing of cars.

Nahum 2:4 The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall justle one against another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like the lightnings.

How else would you describe a car in those times? There was no word for car in Aramaic or Hebrew, and to any observer they would be particularly bright, shiny chariots with abnormal speed: and in roads they certainly do jostle on 'broader' streets.
I do not lie. If all you have to respond to God's word with is threats and insults, you may want to consider why the Bible angers you so. Open your heart and He will come inside you.

How about its a metal box with wheels beneath and seats inside, wind shields, wheels are connected to engine(firebox) that runs on oil for propultion. What you just described sounden more like fiction.

Quote from: Testify on September 25, 2015, 04:38:09 AM

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Quote from: sircool on September 23, 2015, 11:51:13 PM

Quote from: Testify on September 22, 2015, 02:28:45 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 22, 2015, 02:20:21 PM

The earth is NOT 6000 years old at all.

You can quote as much of the bible as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that you're just an ignorant fool, who I assume is a big disappointment to their god - surely he must be seeking followers who actually have a few clues, and clearly you do NOT.

God must despise those who cannot educate themselves, therefore he despises you as a hopeless follower.

Do you believe God is a liar?

We know it's 4,5billions years proven by certaintly whitin 1%, does it make you angry or sad that god lied to you?

We do not. Studies carried about likely by demons or those tempted by demons, on methods and a basis devised by the same, do not give an accurate picture of God's Earth.

What are demons, are they scientists? Why do they do this?  How do you know all this?  U misunderstand me, they calculate the accuracy to be within plus/minus 1% and its not the picture its the age that is the issue.

Demons are fallen angels who seek to draw worship away from God, because they hate Him. All this is spoken of in God's word. All answers are in the Bible, though some require some thought and prayer to realize.
The age they claim to have calculated is not accurate, no matter the accuracy they say they have. We have the genealogy of Jesus all the way to Adam. The world is not millions of years old.

There is no mention of automobiles in the bible.

Are automobiles the work of Satan, if God's word has not sactioned them?

Are rockets the work of Satan as well?

Are rockets not real, just like aeroplanes are real?

Trivialities not being mentioned in detail does not mean they do not exist. I am concerned primarily with what God does state.

Also, Nahum 2:4 does mention cars.

Liar Liar!!! Lying demon i condemn you to hell you lying, manipulating demon!!! Burn him on the fire. He is lying the bible says nothing of cars.

Nahum 2:4 The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall justle one against another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like the lightnings.

How else would you describe a car in those times? There was no word for car in Aramaic or Hebrew, and to any observer they would be particularly bright, shiny chariots with abnormal speed: and in roads they certainly do jostle on 'broader' streets.
I do not lie. If all you have to respond to God's word with is threats and insults, you may want to consider why the Bible angers you so. Open your heart and He will come inside you.

How about its a metal box with wheels beneath and seats inside, wind shields, wheels are connected to engine(firebox) that runs on oil for propultion. What you just described sounden more like fiction.

Metal such as makes cars would be hard to recognize on sight: it looks very different to what they are used to. A box with wheels beneath is a chariot and a chair inside: and who says the cars witnesses were of the modern era? Older cars resembled chariots far more keenly.
These cars were witnessed by a prophet: not described by a mechanic.

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Quote from: sircool on September 23, 2015, 11:51:13 PM

Quote from: Testify on September 22, 2015, 02:28:45 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 22, 2015, 02:20:21 PM

The earth is NOT 6000 years old at all.

You can quote as much of the bible as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that you're just an ignorant fool, who I assume is a big disappointment to their god - surely he must be seeking followers who actually have a few clues, and clearly you do NOT.

God must despise those who cannot educate themselves, therefore he despises you as a hopeless follower.

Do you believe God is a liar?

We know it's 4,5billions years proven by certaintly whitin 1%, does it make you angry or sad that god lied to you?

We do not. Studies carried about likely by demons or those tempted by demons, on methods and a basis devised by the same, do not give an accurate picture of God's Earth.

What are demons, are they scientists? Why do they do this?  How do you know all this?  U misunderstand me, they calculate the accuracy to be within plus/minus 1% and its not the picture its the age that is the issue.

Demons are fallen angels who seek to draw worship away from God, because they hate Him. All this is spoken of in God's word. All answers are in the Bible, though some require some thought and prayer to realize.
The age they claim to have calculated is not accurate, no matter the accuracy they say they have. We have the genealogy of Jesus all the way to Adam. The world is not millions of years old.

There is no mention of automobiles in the bible.

Are automobiles the work of Satan, if God's word has not sactioned them?

Are rockets the work of Satan as well?

Are rockets not real, just like aeroplanes are real?

Trivialities not being mentioned in detail does not mean they do not exist. I am concerned primarily with what God does state.

Also, Nahum 2:4 does mention cars.

Liar Liar!!! Lying demon i condemn you to hell you lying, manipulating demon!!! Burn him on the fire. He is lying the bible says nothing of cars.

Nahum 2:4 The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall justle one against another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like the lightnings.

How else would you describe a car in those times? There was no word for car in Aramaic or Hebrew, and to any observer they would be particularly bright, shiny chariots with abnormal speed: and in roads they certainly do jostle on 'broader' streets.
I do not lie. If all you have to respond to God's word with is threats and insults, you may want to consider why the Bible angers you so. Open your heart and He will come inside you.

How about its a metal box with wheels beneath and seats inside, wind shields, wheels are connected to engine(firebox) that runs on oil for propultion. What you just described sounden more like fiction.

Metal such as makes cars would be hard to recognize on sight: it looks very different to what they are used to. A box with wheels beneath is a chariot and a chair inside: and who says the cars witnesses were of the modern era? Older cars resembled chariots far more keenly.
These cars were witnessed by a prophet: not described by a mechanic.

metal such as makes cars? No they still had the same metals, shiny metal blades. Just like a shiny metallic car. No those are old cars, it makes no sence to only describe crappy old cars, did they not know cars would evolve? What about planes? Rockets? Space stations? Helicopters? Trains? Highways? Global warming? What kind of crappy prediction is that when they leave out the most crutial and importaint part? Didnt god want us to succeed?

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The earth is NOT 6000 years old at all.

You can quote as much of the bible as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that you're just an ignorant fool, who I assume is a big disappointment to their god - surely he must be seeking followers who actually have a few clues, and clearly you do NOT.

God must despise those who cannot educate themselves, therefore he despises you as a hopeless follower.

Do you believe God is a liar?

Posting just a picture is considered low content posting in the upper fora.  Please stop.

Pictures tell a 1000 words, certantltly more content than some of your previous contributes to this forum Jora.
Does pictures of gods make you uncomfortable? Are you muslim terrorist, zieg heil mohammed? Lucifer is ancient norr for Jesus did you know that?

This is him

Why would pictures of something I don't believe in make me "uncomfortable?"

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Quote from: chtwrone on September 22, 2015, 02:20:21 PM

The earth is NOT 6000 years old at all.

You can quote as much of the bible as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that you're just an ignorant fool, who I assume is a big disappointment to their god - surely he must be seeking followers who actually have a few clues, and clearly you do NOT.

God must despise those who cannot educate themselves, therefore he despises you as a hopeless follower.

Do you believe God is a liar?

We know it's 4,5billions years proven by certaintly whitin 1%, does it make you angry or sad that god lied to you?

We do not. Studies carried about likely by demons or those tempted by demons, on methods and a basis devised by the same, do not give an accurate picture of God's Earth.

What are demons, are they scientists? Why do they do this?  How do you know all this?  U misunderstand me, they calculate the accuracy to be within plus/minus 1% and its not the picture its the age that is the issue.

Demons are fallen angels who seek to draw worship away from God, because they hate Him. All this is spoken of in God's word. All answers are in the Bible, though some require some thought and prayer to realize.
The age they claim to have calculated is not accurate, no matter the accuracy they say they have. We have the genealogy of Jesus all the way to Adam. The world is not millions of years old.

There is no mention of automobiles in the bible.

Are automobiles the work of Satan, if God's word has not sactioned them?

Are rockets the work of Satan as well?

Are rockets not real, just like aeroplanes are real?

Trivialities not being mentioned in detail does not mean they do not exist. I am concerned primarily with what God does state.

Also, Nahum 2:4 does mention cars.

Liar Liar!!! Lying demon i condemn you to hell you lying, manipulating demon!!! Burn him on the fire. He is lying the bible says nothing of cars.

Nahum 2:4 The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall justle one against another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like the lightnings.

How else would you describe a car in those times? There was no word for car in Aramaic or Hebrew, and to any observer they would be particularly bright, shiny chariots with abnormal speed: and in roads they certainly do jostle on 'broader' streets.
I do not lie. If all you have to respond to God's word with is threats and insults, you may want to consider why the Bible angers you so. Open your heart and He will come inside you.

How about its a metal box with wheels beneath and seats inside, wind shields, wheels are connected to engine(firebox) that runs on oil for propultion. What you just described sounden more like fiction.

Metal such as makes cars would be hard to recognize on sight: it looks very different to what they are used to. A box with wheels beneath is a chariot and a chair inside: and who says the cars witnesses were of the modern era? Older cars resembled chariots far more keenly.
These cars were witnessed by a prophet: not described by a mechanic.

metal such as makes cars? No they still had the same metals, shiny metal blades. Just like a shiny metallic car. No those are old cars, it makes no sence to only describe crappy old cars, did they not know cars would evolve? What about planes? Rockets? Space stations? Helicopters? Trains? Highways? Global warming? What kind of crappy prediction is that when they leave out the most crutial and importaint part? Didnt god want us to succeed?

The metal used in a blade looks very different to the metal used in a card.
Do you imagine the Bible should include a complete record of every discovery past, present and future? Every invention, and every model? Do you imagine a text where Christ tweets the Sermon on the Mount, or perhaps vines his resurrection? The Bible is a vessel for God's word. A prophet having a glimpse of the future serves to verify the Bible. It is not its primary purpose. It teaches us how to live: and does teach us other truths, but man is responsible for man. God gave us that freedom.

The metal used in a blade looks very different to the metal used in a card.
Do you imagine the Bible should include a complete record of every discovery past, present and future? Every invention, and every model? Do you imagine a text where Christ tweets the Sermon on the Mount, or perhaps vines his resurrection? The Bible is a vessel for God's word. A prophet having a glimpse of the future serves to verify the Bible. It is not its primary purpose. It teaches us how to live: and does teach us other truths, but man is responsible for man. God gave us that freedom.

Did this bibble of yours not mention the lack of horses dragging the chariots about. I would have thought chariots without horses would have been something unusual in the bronze age and definitely worth writing about.

Hmm, pretty sure this topic is about the age of the FE.

I agree.  Let's try to stay on topic.  Thaks everyone. 

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The metal used in a blade looks very different to the metal used in a card.
Do you imagine the Bible should include a complete record of every discovery past, present and future? Every invention, and every model? Do you imagine a text where Christ tweets the Sermon on the Mount, or perhaps vines his resurrection? The Bible is a vessel for God's word. A prophet having a glimpse of the future serves to verify the Bible. It is not its primary purpose. It teaches us how to live: and does teach us other truths, but man is responsible for man. God gave us that freedom.

Did this bibble of yours not mention the lack of horses dragging the chariots about. I would have thought chariots without horses would have been something unusual in the bronze age and definitely worth writing about.

A chariot is a carriage. A chariot and a horse moves: a chariot alone moving is specified.
This is one glimpse by one man, among many prophecies. Perfect detail is not to be expected. He also does not give the number plates.

Then the earth is 6000 years old.

What is your thoughts on dinosaurs, Testify?

Just jumping in here.  I would definitely say 6000 years old, give or take. 

If we're being lied to about the earth being round (with me the jury is still out on that), doesn't it make sense we're being lied to about where everything came from?  I'm already a geocentrist; I believe in the big bang--God spoke and BANG! it happened!  I'm just unsure as to whether the sun goes around a sphere or, for lack of a better term, a disc.

I know the question was directed to another poster--but dinosaurs existed along with man.  They're referred to in the book of Job--but they're not called dinosaurs, but rather behemoths.

The amount of deception in this world is just crazy.  You could spend a lifetime cutting through all the garbage to get to the truth.

The roundies here (some would call them shills) want to convince you that the government never lies to you.  lol

The roundies here (some would call them shills) want to convince you that the government never lies to you.  lol

Who says 'never'?