Nuclear scare scam?

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Nuclear scare scam?
« on: September 10, 2015, 12:52:54 AM »
Is anyone familiar with Galen Winsor, he comes across as pretty knowledgeable and claims to have worked on the Manhattan project and power generating nuclear reactors for decades he also claims to have regularly eaten radioactive material, swam in and drank caesium contaminated de-mineralized water from fuel rod cooling pools  to demonstrate how federal nuclear contamination regulations on safe levels of exposure are a scam to justify high electricity prices.

 
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2015, 01:53:54 AM »
Yep and also keeping people from finding out the truth by hiding it all behind the deathly contamination ruse.

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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2015, 02:37:11 AM »
Yep and also keeping people from finding out the truth by hiding it all behind the deathly contamination ruse.
Errm, you claim that nuclear power doesn't exist, so you can't believe this Galen Winsor idiot, can you?
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2015, 02:42:08 AM »
Yep and also keeping people from finding out the truth by hiding it all behind the deathly contamination ruse.
Errm, you claim that nuclear power doesn't exist, so you can't believe this Galen Winsor idiot, can you?
Who said I believe him? I'm simply saying that this nuclear power is made out to be deathly and is being used as a ruse.


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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2015, 02:45:41 AM »
Yep and also keeping people from finding out the truth by hiding it all behind the deathly contamination ruse.
Errm, you claim that nuclear power doesn't exist, so you can't believe this Galen Winsor idiot, can you?
Who said I believe him? I'm simply saying that this nuclear power is made out to be deathly and is being used as a ruse.
If you don't believe in nuclear power then Winsor must be full of shit, therefore he's not revealing any contamination ruse, is he?
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2015, 03:38:40 AM »
Yep and also keeping people from finding out the truth by hiding it all behind the deathly contamination ruse.
Errm, you claim that nuclear power doesn't exist, so you can't believe this Galen Winsor idiot, can you?
Who said I believe him? I'm simply saying that this nuclear power is made out to be deathly and is being used as a ruse.
If you don't believe in nuclear power then Winsor must be full of shit, therefore he's not revealing any contamination ruse, is he?
Not necessarily. He could  be simply strewn along. Misinformed about the reality of it all. Basically he may know that it's not as dangerous as is made out but not realising that is actually simpler than that and is far from actually being nuclear at all.
You have Helen Caldicott and Leuren Moret who tell us of the dangers of Fukushima, etc and tell us that the Government's are not playing truth with us about the dangers.
Are they nuclear experts who are whitleblowing? Maybe they believe so but what do they really know?

I look at it all. I don't just decide who's right and wrong. I have to work it all out by wondering whether people are misinformed or disinfo is at work.

To know the truth of something in it's entirety or close to, means you have to literally theoretically and physically see the process from start to finish.
If a theoretical nuclear physicist tells you about nuclear power and bombs, etc and come across as a billed expert....at that moment in time, all they are, are experts on being able to understand a story line and follow instructions within that. Basically they are and expert of regurgitating theory.

If they work with the process from so called mining to this so called yellow cake, etc, to manufacture of rods and discs of this stuff then to see it all fission as we are told by no external extra power source, then they become experts.
The trouble is, only they know what's what. If they are touted as being expert by all of the above means, then it's about each person's mind, who are being tutored, to have a belief in what's put out without any physical proof at all...if ever.

As far as I'm concerned, something stinks. It seems a scam for many reasons. I question it because I'm not accepting anything based on faith and until I see fissioning like I'm told, then I won't change my stance.
What other's believe is entirely up to them.

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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2015, 03:48:59 AM »
Scepti, is jimmy referring to another thread where you have said nuclear power does not exist or is he twisting your words from this thread hoping no one would notice?
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2015, 03:56:12 AM »
Jimmy are you familiar with Galen Winsor or are you just assuming he's full of shit because someone you are familiar with says differently?
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2015, 04:00:45 AM »
Scepti, is jimmy referring to another thread where you have said nuclear power does not exist or is he twisting your words from this thread hoping no one would notice?
He's trying to do both, I think. He's trying to make out that I'm playing both sides of the coin and can't seem to grasp the fact that I'm no expert on this but I do have many questions on it all, which could be right or wrong or bordering on the ridiculous.

I accept than I may be wrong but also that I could be closer to the truth in some cases which can be gotten to by process of elimination or at least seeing a potential scam being played out.
The amount of terrorism supposedly covering the world and the apparent ease in which these nukes are apparently dropped into the supposed wrong hands and given the supposed fact that terrorists just seem to want to detonate themselves at every opportunity...you would expect man y cities to be nuked, even if it's small scale.

The problem is, we don't see it. We don't see it because you can't blow up cities by slamming two pieces of lead together that people called Uranium/plutonium. It's pathetic.

Unless the world is run by cyborgs or complete robots, then nobody is going to ever use anything like this, nor power our lives with it, if if even was real. Not if it's as dangerous as made out.

Crabby is an anti conspiracy person, or to put it more plainer, he's against anyone who questions the official line of thought, no matter what it is. His job is to ridicule anyone that attempts to question by playing good cop bad cop.
Crabby is like mikeman and other's. The goal is to stop all questioning.

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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2015, 04:26:35 AM »
Scepti, is jimmy referring to another thread where you have said nuclear power does not exist or is he twisting your words from this thread hoping no one would notice?
Not twisting his words - scepti claims nuclear power doesn't exist and it's all a sham.

I doubt he actually believes this, he just has nothing better to do and likes the attention.
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2015, 04:30:48 AM »
Jimmy are you familiar with Galen Winsor or are you just assuming he's full of shit because someone you are familiar with says differently?
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2015, 04:31:07 AM »
Nuclear Bombs are worth Billions a piece, no one is just misplacing them.
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2015, 04:36:21 AM »
Nuclear Bombs are worth Billions a piece, no one is just misplacing them.
Billions apiece.
Have a long think about that and try and see where your tax money is going.
It's going to the same people that give you billion dollar space toilets and such like. You get my drift...or maybe you conveniently won't.  :P

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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2015, 04:57:09 AM »
Actually my Tax money is going to my Presidents 4 wife's (I wish I was joking)

That aside, do you believe that Hiroshima and Nagasaki never happened?
Is the existence of Japan as much a conspiracy as the flat earth?
Have you never met a Japanese person, and therefore dont believe the place exists?

Besides, South Africa has 1 Nuclear station, and I am very knowledgeable about what happens when the turn one of the turbines off.
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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2015, 05:07:16 AM »
Actually my Tax money is going to my Presidents 4 wife's (I wish I was joking)

That aside, do you believe that Hiroshima and Nagasaki never happened?
Is the existence of Japan as much a conspiracy as the flat earth?
Have you never met a Japanese person, and therefore dont believe the place exists?

Besides, South Africa has 1 Nuclear station, and I am very knowledgeable about what happens when the turn one of the turbines off.
Do you trust your Government?
As for Japan. I won't argue with someone that uses emotion as some kind of point.

And what happens when your so called  nuclear station goes down?

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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2015, 05:30:54 AM »
I trust my government is made up of thousands of individuals, and not one single master mind. I know this because I do a lot of government work. And I work with the full spectrum of government levels, all the way to the top. And some of those people are complete a$$holes, while others are great friends of mine. I trust people to be people, and some are good and others are bad.
Seeing the government as one solid entity with full control over its own actions and resources is really trying hard to simplify things. If it where that way there would be no government employees ever going to prison.

As for Japan. I won't argue with someone that uses emotion as some kind of point.

What are you talking about? Japan got attacked with 2 nuclear bombs, they noticed that the 2 bombs where not imaginary. They have first hand experience of the situation.

And what happens when your so called  nuclear station goes down?

Due to bad management from this confused government of mine, the country underspent on power generation for the last 25 years. Meaning that we have powershedding from time to time. Powershedding is when there is not enough power generation to the grid so they cut alternating areas off. (we are running on 100% grid capacity all the time) The result is we often sit without power for 2 hours a day.
When ever our nuclear power station needs to shut one of its generators down (I think it has 4-6?) for maintenance we go into powershedding.
This means that South Africans are always monitoring our power stations output. I have seen our only nuclear powerstation, it is not a myth. (We are gonna build another one soon)
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2015, 06:14:53 AM »
I trust my government is made up of thousands of individuals, and not one single master mind. I know this because I do a lot of government work. And I work with the full spectrum of government levels, all the way to the top. And some of those people are complete a$$holes, while others are great friends of mine. I trust people to be people, and some are good and others are bad.
Seeing the government as one solid entity with full control over its own actions and resources is really trying hard to simplify things. If it where that way there would be no government employees ever going to prison.

As for Japan. I won't argue with someone that uses emotion as some kind of point.

What are you talking about? Japan got attacked with 2 nuclear bombs, they noticed that the 2 bombs where not imaginary. They have first hand experience of the situation.

And what happens when your so called  nuclear station goes down?

Due to bad management from this confused government of mine, the country underspent on power generation for the last 25 years. Meaning that we have powershedding from time to time. Powershedding is when there is not enough power generation to the grid so they cut alternating areas off. (we are running on 100% grid capacity all the time) The result is we often sit without power for 2 hours a day.
When ever our nuclear power station needs to shut one of its generators down (I think it has 4-6?) for maintenance we go into powershedding.
This means that South Africans are always monitoring our power stations output. I have seen our only nuclear powerstation, it is not a myth. (We are gonna build another one soon)
You work for the government but not in any capacity that requires much thought. A road sweeper or something like that.
You come across as backward.

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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2015, 06:34:00 AM »
I accept than I may be wrong...
No, you don't.
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2015, 06:36:59 AM »
I accept than I may be wrong...
No, you don't.
I do. I just won't accept it from people that don't know what they're talking about.

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« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2015, 06:43:34 AM »
When you have nothing left to say you insult. Okay.

They are a client of mine, I don't work for them.
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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2015, 07:04:10 AM »
When you have nothing left to say you insult. Okay.

They are a client of mine, I don't work for them.
The Government is a client of yours? what the hell are you talking about?

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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2015, 07:17:24 AM »
I produce services for the government in exchange for money.
Kind of how most businesses work.
In other words I send them an invoice and they pay me for services rendered.
I also have other private clients.
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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2015, 07:38:49 AM »
When you have nothing left to say you insult. Okay.

They are a client of mine, I don't work for them.
The Government is a client of yours? what the hell are you talking about?

Shocking eh?

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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2015, 07:46:40 AM »
I produce services for the government in exchange for money.
Kind of how most businesses work.
In other words I send them an invoice and they pay me for services rendered.
I also have other private clients.
Oh, ok, you're a sort of council sub contractor. Why didn't you just say that.
Anyway, it hardly gives you any clout on what you believe nuclear energy is.

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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2015, 08:03:40 AM »
Oh, ok, you're a sort of council sub contractor. Why didn't you just say that.
No. I am an architect. The government needs to build buildings, the dont do it themselves and need architects to plan, manage and run the construction of buildings. When they do try to do it themselves it ends in disaster.

Im done for the day.

Seriously go read some "Bill Bryson, a short history of nearly everything"
You will not regret it
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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2015, 08:17:39 AM »
Oh, ok, you're a sort of council sub contractor. Why didn't you just say that.
No. I am an architect. The government needs to build buildings, the dont do it themselves and need architects to plan, manage and run the construction of buildings. When they do try to do it themselves it ends in disaster.

Im done for the day.

Seriously go read some "Bill Bryson, a short history of nearly everything"
You will not regret it
Nah, I'll pass on Bill Bryson. Anyway, you tidy up your drawing board and negotiate your next design.

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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2015, 08:31:47 AM »
41 people died directly if radiation poisoning after the Chernobyl disaster and thousands of people died from radiation when the atomic bombs were dropped.  This is something that's very real.
I am having a video war with Jeranism.
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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2015, 08:36:07 AM »
41 people died directly if radiation poisoning after the Chernobyl disaster and thousands of people died from radiation when the atomic bombs were dropped.  This is something that's very real.
From this point on, do not correspond with me. If you do, it will be blanked. Talk to whoever will answer you. Consider our to and fro's, ceased.

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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2015, 09:15:50 AM »
When you have nothing left to say you insult. Okay.

They are a client of mine, I don't work for them.
The Government is a client of yours? what the hell are you talking about?

Shocking eh?
I don't think scepti is too familiar with the world of work.  Or reality in general.
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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2015, 09:30:04 AM »
Tens of thousands of people have been exposed to radiation through nuclear tests, Chernobyl, Fukushima  not to mention Hiroshima and Nagasaki but still not one single superhero so its got to be a load of old bollox  if you ask me
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