15 questions about the flat Earth theory

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15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« on: September 06, 2015, 05:55:19 PM »
A few questions:

1. If the Earth is flat, and the Sun is in orbit above the flat Earth, please explain sunrise/sunset, where the Sun follows the ecliptic and rises and sets at the horizon. Seems to me that if the Earth is flat with the sun orbiting above, "sunset" and "sunrise" should show the sun just floating away across the sky.

2. You say the Sun is 32 miles in diameter and orbiting at an approximate altitude of 3,000 miles. Commercial jets fly at 29,000ft and higher. Some military aircraft have even higher service ceilings. Why have they not achieved an altitude higher than that of the Sun? Oooooops. . . I was thinking feet on this one.

3. Qantas flight QF 63 often flies from Sydney, Australia to Johanessburg, South Africa, following a polar route across Antarctica. In a flat Earth model, wouldn't they have effectively flown off the planet, even though they ended up in South Africa, supporting a round Earth?

4. If the Earth is flat, what's keeping satellites from crashing to the Earth? Moreover, what's keeping them in orbit?

5. I own a high-powered telescope that can resolve the rings of Saturn from my porch, a distance of 746 million miles (1.2 billion kilometers). That being said, if I stand at the summit of say, Mount Kilimanjaro in Tanzania, at an altitude of 19,300 feet, why am I not able to look at the Chrysler Building in New York City, a distance of approximately 7,500 miles (12,100 kilometers)?

6. Why do ships sailing away from you disappear over the horizon keel-first, and vice-versa when approaching you?

7. Explain the reason you cannot see Polaris and other northern celestial objects from the southern hemisphere.

8. If the Sun is only 32 miles in diameter, what are the other planets orbiting? They are very clearly following the ecliptic within a few degrees either side.

9. What's on the "underside" of a flat Earth?

10. Why do stars cross the night sky in the same direction that the Sun does? Does that mean that all the stars are rotating above our heads too?

11. If the Earth is not round, rotating on an axial tilt, and traversing an orbit around the Sun lying at the center of our Solar System, explain why we only see certain constellations at certain times of year, e.g. Orion in the winter, Cepheus in the summer etc.

12. Explain gravity.

13. If the Earth is flat, explain our magnetic field.

14. In a flat Earth model, Antarctica is an "ice wall" comprising the outside circumference of the planet. Where then specifically is the geographic South Pole, or 90.0000° S, 0.0000° W? I can't see any way to define it to one singular point, whereas the geographic North Pole sits roughly at center.


15. Explain from this photograph taken from the Moon during the NASA Apollo program the following:


         
          a. Why you are only seeing a portion of the Earth.
         
          b. Why the "Antarctic ice wall" that forms the perimeter of a flat Earth is missing.

          c. Why Earth is roughly equally divided in partial sunlight and partial darkness.

          d. Why the Sun is not shown orbiting above the Earth?

          e. Why the terminator is curved, supporting a round Earth and not a flat Earth.

          f. The sheer distant this photograph portrays, disproving that the Moon is only a few thousand miles above the Earth.
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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2015, 06:05:36 PM »
If you are new to this forum all of your questions have been previously asked.

(14) Do you know what this map is and what the source for it is ?
« Last Edit: September 06, 2015, 06:12:02 PM by Googleotomy »
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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2015, 06:06:55 PM »
tl;dr

What is so hard about asking one question at a time?  You people seem to think we all have all day to sit at the computer and peck out lists.  :-\

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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2015, 06:18:17 PM »
tl;dr

What is so hard about asking one question at a time?  You people seem to think we all have all day to sit at the computer and peck out lists.  :-\

It wouldn't be hard for me to answer a list of questions. I could just send a list of answers.
I would just do some research if I wasn't sure of my answers.

You might just as well ask  an instructor who has given you a printed examination with say 50  questions." Why don't you do this exam by just giving me one question at a time ?

Try me. If I didn't know the answers I would be honest enough to tell you I didn't know.

So why not just answer his questions one at a time ?
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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2015, 06:26:05 PM »
tl;dr

What is so hard about asking one question at a time?  You people seem to think we all have all day to sit at the computer and peck out lists.  :-\

It wouldn't be hard for me to answer a list of questions. I could just send a list of answers.
I would just do some research if I wasn't sure of my answers.

You might just as well ask  an instructor who has given you a printed examination with say 50  questions." Why don't you do this exam by just giving me one question at a time ?

Try me. If I didn't know the answers I would be honest enough to tell you I didn't know.

So why not just answer his questions one at a time ?

From now on, Googleotomy can be our spokes person.  He can answer all the dozens of lists that people post under the disguise of being a simple question.  He can spend 20 hours a week writing list responses.  He can do all of the searches, both on this site and through Google.  Thanks for volunteering, Googleotomy!  I hope you do not let us down!

Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2015, 06:28:17 PM »
tl;dr

What is so hard about asking one question at a time?  You people seem to think we all have all day to sit at the computer and peck out lists.  :-\

Why don't you just pick one to answer? Surely you can answer at least one of them.

If you are new to this forum all of your questions have been previously asked.

(14) Do you know what this map is and what the source for it is ?

Schadewald, Robert J "The Flat-out Truth:Earth Orbits? Moon Landings? A Fraud! Says This Prophet" Science Digest July 1980
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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2015, 06:33:00 PM »
He could give you flat earth answers. IF the earth was flat ;D
« Last Edit: September 06, 2015, 06:40:08 PM by Googleotomy »
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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2015, 06:38:46 PM »
Why don't you just pick one to answer? Surely you can answer at least one of them.

Ok.  As random as I could be, I selected one of your questions.  It was:  4. If the Earth is flat, what's keeping satellites from crashing to the Earth? Moreover, what's keeping them in orbit?

The same thing that is accelerating the Earth is accelerating the celestial objects above the Earth.  This is why it is referred to as the Universal Accelerator.  If two or more things are accelerating at the same rate and in the same direction, there is no fear that the two will collide.  Hope this helps!

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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2015, 06:42:58 PM »
See what you problem is? Flat earthers rarely do any research.

« Last Edit: September 06, 2015, 06:45:10 PM by Googleotomy »
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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2015, 06:45:37 PM »
See what you problem is. Flat earthers rarely do any research.

I fail to see how your post is either asking or answering a question in the FE  Q&A.  Do you need another vacation? 

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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2015, 06:59:47 PM »
tl;dr

What is so hard about asking one question at a time?  You people seem to think we all have all day to sit at the computer and peck out lists.  :-\

It wouldn't be hard for me to answer a list of questions. I could just send a list of answers.
I would just do some research if I wasn't sure of my answers.

You might just as well ask  an instructor who has given you a printed examination with say 50  questions." Why don't you do this exam by just giving me one question at a time ?

Try me. If I didn't know the answers I would be honest enough to tell you I didn't know.

So why not just answer his questions one at a time ?

From now on, Googleotomy can be our spokes person.  He can answer all the dozens of lists that people post under the disguise of being a simple question.  He can spend 20 hours a week writing list responses.  He can do all of the searches, both on this site and through Google.  Thanks for volunteering, Googleotomy!  I hope you do not let us down!

I spend too much time on this website. I am trying to spend less time on this website.
I just purchased some new ham radio equipment so I may be able to completely stop my visits to this website. But I am afraid it has become too much of an addiction.

Finally, I have a question for jroa. Just ONE question .

What is the distance from the earth to the moon and the diameter of the moon?
(A)Exactly 3000 miles distance;Exactly  32 miles diameter.
(B) Approximately 238,150 miles distance ; Approximately  2,150 miles diameter
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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2015, 07:04:08 PM »
Neither.  Approximately 3000 miles and approximately 32 miles.  Thanks for asking.  Sorry to see you go!  I am sure that some of us will miss you and your boring posts that you simply repeat over and over!  Don't let the door hit you on the way out!  Maybe this time, you will actually leave when you threaten to do so?

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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2015, 07:10:16 PM »
Neither.  Approximately 3000 miles and approximately 32 miles.  Thanks for asking.  Sorry to see you go!  I am sure that some of us will miss you and your boring posts that you simply repeat over and over!  Don't let the door hit you on the way out!  Maybe this time, you will actually leave when you threaten to do so?

Thanks for the answer.

Now: Prove the other answer is wrong.Prove the persons who obtained the results are liars.

Also note the professional manner in which the moderator manages this website.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2015, 07:13:16 PM by Googleotomy »
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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2015, 07:11:28 PM »
Neither.  Approximately 3000 miles and approximately 32 miles.  Thanks for asking.  Sorry to see you go!  I am sure that some of us will miss you and your boring posts that you simply repeat over and over!  Don't let the door hit you on the way out!  Maybe this time, you will actually leave when you threaten to do so?

Also note the professional manner in which the moderator manages this website.

 :-*

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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2015, 07:20:37 PM »
To ScienceWins
Please accept my apologies .  I really should have stayed out of this.
It was really YOUR  list of questions. I could answer this but they are really directed to flat earthers. Just wanted to let you know what you are up against. My problem is I take this website too seriously from time to time.

I'll try to stay out of YOUR Q&A. Good luck. I  will TRY to leave it with you and jroa. But you  might notice a lack of other FE's. Maybe they will come to his aid...Charles Bloomington, Tom Bishop and sceptimatic ? Where are you ? jroa needs some help.
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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2015, 08:09:18 PM »
Ok, I have a few minutes to answer another of your questions.  I might even be able to knock out two, as there is not much going on at work today.  As randomly as possible, I chose 9. What's on the "underside" of a flat Earth?

How would we know what is under the Earth?  Do you think any of us have gone there?  It is often speculated that the underside of the Earth is simply composed of rock, but I feel that it is impossible to know for sure. 

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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2015, 08:15:27 PM »
Alright, as I said, I have time for one more.  If I keep this up, I might be able to knock out this list by the end of the night, as if that is all I come here to do. 

This time, I randomly picked 7. Explain the reason you cannot see Polaris and other northern celestial objects from the southern hemisphere.

Things that are far away can not be seen.  When a star is directly overhead, it is as close to you as it can be.  As it moves away from you, the angle that it is viewed will change, and it will appear to get closer to the horizon.  Air is not perfectly transparent, and light can not propagate infinitely through air.  A star that is directly overhead of someone in New York is very far away from someone in Chile. 

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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2015, 12:02:12 AM »

2. You say the Sun is 32 miles in diameter and orbiting at an approximate altitude of 3,000 miles. Commercial jets fly at 29,000ft and higher. Some military aircraft have even higher service ceilings. Why have they not achieved an altitude higher than that of the Sun?


Calculate: 3000 miles * 5280 ft = 15,840,000 ft.
Why have they not achieved an altitude higher than that of the Sun?
Because none have made it to 15 million feet high.
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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2015, 01:21:28 AM »

2. You say the Sun is 32 miles in diameter and orbiting at an approximate altitude of 3,000 miles. Commercial jets fly at 29,000ft and higher. Some military aircraft have even higher service ceilings. Why have they not achieved an altitude higher than that of the Sun?


Calculate: 3000 miles * 5280 ft = 15,840,000 ft.
Why have they not achieved an altitude higher than that of the Sun?
Because none have made it to 15 million feet high.

Touché to that one. I was clearly thinking feet and not miles on that one. That's my bad man.

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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2015, 02:38:38 AM »
8. If the Sun is only 32 miles in diameter, what are the other planets orbiting? They are very clearly following the ecliptic within a few degrees either side.

They are orbiting above the Earth, just like the rest of the celestial objects. 

Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2015, 02:49:15 AM »
8. If the Sun is only 32 miles in diameter, what are the other planets orbiting? They are very clearly following the ecliptic within a few degrees either side.

They are orbiting above the Earth, just like the rest of the celestial objects.

My question was 'what are they orbiting,' not 'where are they.'

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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2015, 03:23:12 AM »
8. If the Sun is only 32 miles in diameter, what are the other planets orbiting? They are very clearly following the ecliptic within a few degrees either side.

They are orbiting above the Earth, just like the rest of the celestial objects.

My question was 'what are they orbiting,' not 'where are they.'

And my answer was 'they are orbiting the Earth'.  ???

Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2015, 06:25:34 PM »
tl;dr

What is so hard about asking one question at a time?  You people seem to think we all have all day to sit at the computer and peck out lists.  :-\

This is the second time in two days I have heard you reference "you people" JROA, the first was with me. Who are the "you people", and who are "you"? You carry a chip on your shoulder big enough to knock you out with. What is up with that, cuz? peace, ted

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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2015, 06:43:20 PM »
tl;dr

What is so hard about asking one question at a time?  You people seem to think we all have all day to sit at the computer and peck out lists.  :-\

This is the second time in two days I have heard you reference "you people" JROA, the first was with me. Who are the "you people", and who are "you"? You carry a chip on your shoulder big enough to knock you out with. What is up with that, cuz? peace, ted

Are you not "You People?"

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Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2015, 01:27:58 AM »
Neither.  Approximately 3000 miles and approximately 32 miles.  Thanks for asking.  Sorry to see you go!  I am sure that some of us will miss you and your boring posts that you simply repeat over and over!  Don't let the door hit you on the way out!  Maybe this time, you will actually leave when you threaten to do so?

A further question concerning the FE moon, do you consider it to be a spherical ball or a flat disk like object?
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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2015, 04:50:07 AM »
Neither.  Approximately 3000 miles and approximately 32 miles.  Thanks for asking.  Sorry to see you go!  I am sure that some of us will miss you and your boring posts that you simply repeat over and over!  Don't let the door hit you on the way out!  Maybe this time, you will actually leave when you threaten to do so?

A further question concerning the FE moon, do you consider it to be a spherical ball or a flat disk like object?


I think it is not unreasonable to think it could be a ball. 

Re: 15 questions about the flat Earth theory
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2015, 11:36:18 PM »
They are orbiting above the Earth, just like the rest of the celestial objects.

One of the main concepts of orbits is gravity. One could say that without gravity there are no orbits.
So you must either accept the concept of gravity as a thing that exists in this world or you must find some other force that propells the celestial objects.

Another thing about orbits is that they have a centrepoint, meaning that, according to common physics, the moon orbits around the earth, for example. This works because the earth has a certain gravitational pull, and the moon is in this gravity well.
This is a gross oversimplification, but in general it's how it works.

I would like it if you can explain how the objects can orbit without: 1) the force of gravity, and 2) something to orbit around?

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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2015, 07:30:51 AM »
Merriam-Webster would disagree with you.  Gravity is nowhere in the definition.


2orbit
noun2orbit
noun
Definition of ORBIT

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a :  a path described by one body in its revolution about another (as by the earth about the sun or by an electron about an atomic nucleus); also :  one complete revolution of a body describing such a path
b :  a circular path
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:  a range or sphere of activity or influence <within the president's orbit>
— orbital adjective
Definition of ORBIT

1
a :  a path described by one body in its revolution about another (as by the earth about the sun or by an electron about an atomic nucleus); also :  one complete revolution of a body describing such a path
b :  a circular path
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:  a range or sphere of activity or influence <within the president's orbit>
— orbital adjective