coriolis effect on flat earth

So I think everyone here knows about the coriolis effect, you know that thing that makes spiney things on one side go one way, and spiney things on the other side go a different way, my question is, how exactly does this work on a flat earth

So I think everyone here knows about the coriolis effect, you know that thing that makes spiney things on one side go one way, and spiney things on the other side go a different way, my question is, how exactly does this work on a flat earth

Can't wait to see what they come up with. No doubt some BS about projected holograms - that's their theory behind everything that they either can't explain, or say is NASA lies, lol.

So I think everyone here knows about the coriolis effect, you know that thing that makes spiney things on one side go one way, and spiney things on the other side go a different way, my question is, how exactly does this work on a flat earth

Most of them say it's a hoax and that it doesn't exist, even though we have lots of experimental evidence that it does, plus the hurricanes. By this point, the subject has been debated so much, that nobody cares any more.

Is this another one of those "my toilet flushes backwards when I take it to Australia" threads?

Is this another one of those "my toilet flushes backwards when I take it to Australia" threads?

No, because everybody knows that the direction where the toilet flushes has nothing to do with the Coriolis effect. The hurricanes and the experimental evidence like this: " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> do have a lot to do with it.

So I think everyone here knows about the coriolis effect, you know that thing that makes spiney things on one side go one way, and spiney things on the other side go a different way, my question is, how exactly does this work on a flat earth

The Coriolis effect "works" the same as it does in your fanatsy world. 

I bet you just heard about the Coriolis effect yesterday. 

Quote from: sliceofpi on September 05, 2015, 11:48:27 PM

So I think everyone here knows about the coriolis effect, you know that thing that makes spiney things on one side go one way, and spiney things on the other side go a different way, my question is, how exactly does this work on a flat earth

The Coriolis effect "works" the same as it does in your fanatsy world. 

I bet you just heard about the Coriolis effect yesterday.

Do you know what the Coriolis effect is? Because it completely relies on the rotation of the Earth to work.

Try it yourself;
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=63831.msg1696656#msg1696656

Have fun and learn something :-)

So I think everyone here knows about the coriolis effect, you know that thing that makes spiney things on one side go one way, and spiney things on the other side go a different way, my question is, how exactly does this work on a flat earth

They simply deny it, as they haven't really got anywhere else to go.

Quote from: sliceofpi on September 05, 2015, 11:48:27 PM

So I think everyone here knows about the coriolis effect, you know that thing that makes spiney things on one side go one way, and spiney things on the other side go a different way, my question is, how exactly does this work on a flat earth

They simply deny it, as they haven't really got anywhere else to go.

Or they imagine strange unprovable forces. Or a consipracy. Classic FE arguments.

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on September 06, 2015, 06:23:16 AM

Quote from: sliceofpi on September 05, 2015, 11:48:27 PM

So I think everyone here knows about the coriolis effect, you know that thing that makes spiney things on one side go one way, and spiney things on the other side go a different way, my question is, how exactly does this work on a flat earth

They simply deny it, as they haven't really got anywhere else to go.

Or they imagine strange unprovable forces. Or a consipracy. Classic FE arguments.

Being a Free Thinker is not the bad thing that you people make it out to be.  Try thinking outside the box once in a while.  You might surprise yourself. 

Quote from: XaeXae on September 06, 2015, 07:01:56 AM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on September 06, 2015, 06:23:16 AM

Quote from: sliceofpi on September 05, 2015, 11:48:27 PM

So I think everyone here knows about the coriolis effect, you know that thing that makes spiney things on one side go one way, and spiney things on the other side go a different way, my question is, how exactly does this work on a flat earth

They simply deny it, as they haven't really got anywhere else to go.

Or they imagine strange unprovable forces. Or a consipracy. Classic FE arguments.

Being a Free Thinker is not the bad thing that you people make it out to be.  Try thinking outside the box once in a while.  You might surprise yourself. 

Free thinking is great. It's amazing. Only what you're doing is not free thinking. It's called bullshitology. What you're doing is basically say that everything that is inside the box is false, get out of the box, make a new, smaller, and much more non-sensical box and live there.

Quote from: XaeXae on September 06, 2015, 07:01:56 AM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on September 06, 2015, 06:23:16 AM

Quote from: sliceofpi on September 05, 2015, 11:48:27 PM

So I think everyone here knows about the coriolis effect, you know that thing that makes spiney things on one side go one way, and spiney things on the other side go a different way, my question is, how exactly does this work on a flat earth

They simply deny it, as they haven't really got anywhere else to go.

Or they imagine strange unprovable forces. Or a consipracy. Classic FE arguments.

Being a Free Thinker is not the bad thing that you people make it out to be.  Try thinking outside the box once in a while.  You might surprise yourself. 

stop trying to derail the topic, now we know the coriolis effect is real. The real Q is how the fe-model explains it, because the re-model certanly does.

*wait for the FE explanations*

I just noticed that nobody has actually answered my question, all that's happened so far is both sides throwing ad hominems at echother. I really want to see how you flat earthers explain this, hurricanes are a thing that I think we can all agree happens, and the fact that they spin different directions depending on hemisphere. This is definite evidence for the existence of the equator, witch shouldn't exist on a flat earth

So I think everyone here knows about the coriolis effect, you know that thing that makes spiney things on one side go one way, and spiney things on the other side go a different way, my question is, how exactly does this work on a flat earth

• Is that really the best explanation you have?
• I'll be happy to answer this, if you're content to wait.

I'm developing a model at the moment: once I complete my map of a FE, it will be possible to note down the dividing line for the Coriolis effect and similar supposed problems with a FE. The problem with asking questions like yours is that they can't be answered independent of context: after all, you can't fully explain the RE basis for the effect without going into detail with vectors and cross products and the rotation of the Earth. Why would it not be the same for a FE?
Once we get a good map, then we can observe what the Coriolis effect is in line with and what it relates to. This can't be done before.

Quote from: sliceofpi on September 05, 2015, 11:48:27 PM

So I think everyone here knows about the coriolis effect, you know that thing that makes spiney things on one side go one way, and spiney things on the other side go a different way, my question is, how exactly does this work on a flat earth

• Is that really the best explanation you have?
• I'll be happy to answer this, if you're content to wait.

I'm developing a model at the moment: once I complete my map of a FE, it will be possible to note down the dividing line for the Coriolis effect and similar supposed problems with a FE. The problem with asking questions like yours is that they can't be answered independent of context: after all, you can't fully explain the RE basis for the effect without going into detail with vectors and cross products and the rotation of the Earth. Why would it not be the same for a FE?
Once we get a good map, then we can observe what the Coriolis effect is in line with and what it relates to. This can't be done before.

You don't need to do all that stuff to explain the coriolis effect on a round Earth. All you have to know is the obvious fact that the closer you get to the poles, the slower the speed of the rotation of the earth is. That's pretty much it.

You don't need to do all that stuff to explain the coriolis effect on a round Earth. All you have to know is the obvious fact that the closer you get to the poles, the slower the speed of the rotation of the earth is. That's pretty much it.

Why would the Earth's rotation cause such an effect, however?
It may seem obvious to you, but that's simply because you're used to the idea. It does take quite a bit to justify the force.

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 06, 2015, 02:37:10 PM

You don't need to do all that stuff to explain the coriolis effect on a round Earth. All you have to know is the obvious fact that the closer you get to the poles, the slower the speed of the rotation of the earth is. That's pretty much it.

Why would the Earth's rotation cause such an effect, however?
It may seem obvious to you, but that's simply because you're used to the idea. It does take quite a bit to justify the force.

Well, the rest is intuitive. The ground near the equator travel faster compared to the north or to the south of it, so when an object travels further to the south or further to the north, it will already be going at a higher speed than the ground there, so it's going to go "faster" than the ground there and appear to divert from its course.

Do you know what the Coriolis effect is? Because it completely relies on the rotation of the Earth to work.

No problem!!  In that case, the earth must be rotating like a spinning plate!  Wow!!!   Your "science" fiction schtick is getting weirder and weirder!!!  What will you shills think of next?!?   

How does the Coriolis effect affect flat earth "theory" again???  You never told us that part. 

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 06, 2015, 05:24:54 AM

Do you know what the Coriolis effect is? Because it completely relies on the rotation of the Earth to work.

No problem!!  In that case, the earth must be rotating like a spinning plate!  Wow!!!   Your "science" fiction schtick is getting weirder and weirder!!!  What will you shills think of next?!?   

How does the Coriolis effect affect to flat earth "theory" again???  You never told us that part.

The flat earth is now spinning? Don't you realize what kinds of problems that would cause? Since there is no gravity to pull things to the center, all atmosphere would be lost to the edge, and there would be constant wind everywhere due to the earth rotating below the atmosphere. Not to mention the fact that when you let something fly straight upwards, after a while it would get somewhere completely different. All that stuff works just fine on a round earth, because there is gravity pulling things to the center, but a flat earth doesn't have stuff like that. It also doesn't explain why the Coriolis effect makes things rotate clockwise north of the equator and counterclockwise south of the equator. Then there is also the fact that the Coriolis effect can not be observed in the equator, while on a flat earth it wouldn't be any different from any other location. Just forget about a spinning flat earth. It's dumb.

The flat earth is now spinning? Don't you realize what kinds of problems that would cause?

OK.  So, the earth is NOT rotating a gazillion miles an hour.  Thanks for letting everybody know!   

Since there is no gravity to pull things to the center, all atmosphere would be lost to the edge, and there would be constant wind everywhere due to the earth rotating below the atmosphere. Not to mention .... 

..... slow down!! 
So, there is no gravity either?!?   

You are finally starting to make sense!!   Keep up the great work! 

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 08, 2015, 01:17:51 PM

The flat earth is now spinning? Don't you realize what kinds of problems that would cause?

OK.  So, the earth is NOT rotating a gazillion miles an hour.  Thanks for letting everybody know!   

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 08, 2015, 01:17:51 PM

Since there is no gravity to pull things to the center, all atmosphere would be lost to the edge, and there would be constant wind everywhere due to the earth rotating below the atmosphere. Not to mention .... 

..... slow down!! 
So, there is no gravity either?!?   

You are finally starting to make sense!!   Keep up the great work!

There is no gravity in your fantasy flat earth, dumbass! The problems with spinning only arise in a flat earth!

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 06, 2015, 05:24:54 AM

Do you know what the Coriolis effect is? Because it completely relies on the rotation of the Earth to work.

No problem!!  In that case, the earth must be rotating like a spinning plate!  Wow!!!   Your "science" fiction schtick is getting weirder and weirder!!!  What will you shills think of next?!?   

How does the Coriolis effect affect flat earth "theory" again???  You never told us that part.

You must be aware that cyclones and anti-cyclones rotate in different directions dependent on whether you're in the northern or southern hemisphere (round earth model) or the equator (flat earth model).
How does the flat earth model account for the differing directions of rotation?

You must be aware ....

.... uh, no. 
I do not have be aware of Chapter 33 in the shill cookbook or anything else you disturbed folks throw at the wall. 

How does the flat earth model account for the differing directions of rotation?

Irrelevent. 

"How does the flat earth model account for the fact that you can not dig your way to China?" 

"How does the flat earth model account for the fact that you can not turn lead into gold??" 

"How does the flat earth model account for the fact that donkeys can not fly???" 

The problems with spinning only arise in a flat earth!

I challenge you to name 1 problem with spinning.  You can not do it. Put up or shut up! 

Wow!!!  You shills are terrible!!  You can not even answer your own silly questions. 

Quote from: chtwrone on September 09, 2015, 05:55:15 AM

You must be aware ....

.... uh, no. 
I do not have be aware of Chapter 33 in the shill cookbook or anything else you disturbed folks throw at the wall. 

Quote from: chtwrone on September 09, 2015, 05:55:15 AM

How does the flat earth model account for the differing directions of rotation?

Irrelevent. 

"How does the flat earth model account for the fact that you can not dig your way to China?" 

"How does the flat earth model account for the fact that you can not turn lead into gold??" 

"How does the flat earth model account for the fact that donkeys can not fly???" 

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 09, 2015, 01:22:58 AM

The problems with spinning only arise in a flat earth!

I challenge you to name 1 problem with spinning.  You can not do it. Put up or shut up! 

Wow!!!  You shills are terrible!!  You can not even answer your own silly questions.

It has been explained 3 posts above yours. The problem is :
- If the Earth is not spinning on the FE model, then the FE model wouldn't be able to explain the Coriolis effect
- If the Earth is spinning on the FE model, it would explain the Coriolis effect, but the model would have to accept gravity, otherwise *see 3 posts abobe*

Basically, spin + no gravity == you can throw the FE model into the trashbin. Well, there are thousands other reasons to throw it away, but that would be 1 more.

Quote from: Charming Anarchist on September 09, 2015, 11:20:02 AM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 09, 2015, 05:55:15 AM

You must be aware ....

.... uh, no. 
I do not have be aware of Chapter 33 in the shill cookbook or anything else you disturbed folks throw at the wall. 

Quote from: chtwrone on September 09, 2015, 05:55:15 AM

How does the flat earth model account for the differing directions of rotation?

Irrelevent. 

"How does the flat earth model account for the fact that you can not dig your way to China?" 

"How does the flat earth model account for the fact that you can not turn lead into gold??" 

"How does the flat earth model account for the fact that donkeys can not fly???" 

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 09, 2015, 01:22:58 AM

The problems with spinning only arise in a flat earth!

I challenge you to name 1 problem with spinning.  You can not do it. Put up or shut up! 

Wow!!!  You shills are terrible!!  You can not even answer your own silly questions.

It has been explained 3 posts above yours. The problem is :
- If the Earth is not spinning on the FE model, then the FE model wouldn't be able to explain the Coriolis effect
- If the Earth is spinning on the FE model, it would explain the Coriolis effect, but the model would have to accept gravity, otherwise *see 3 posts abobe*

Basically, spin + no gravity == you can throw the FE model into the trashbin. Well, there are thousands other reasons to throw it away, but that would be 1 more.

Gravity has already been proved to be true on a flat earth. The 2 other serious theories were UA (proved false by observing that gravitationnal acceleration isn't constant) and air pressure (proved false with gravity observation inside vacuum chambers). Gravity has been proved true by the Cavendish experiment.

Quote from: chtwrone on September 09, 2015, 05:55:15 AM

You must be aware ....

.... uh, no. 
I do not have be aware of Chapter 33 in the shill cookbook or anything else you disturbed folks throw at the wall. 

Quote from: chtwrone on September 09, 2015, 05:55:15 AM

How does the flat earth model account for the differing directions of rotation?

Irrelevent. 

"How does the flat earth model account for the fact that you can not dig your way to China?" 

"How does the flat earth model account for the fact that you can not turn lead into gold??" 

"How does the flat earth model account for the fact that donkeys can not fly???" 

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 09, 2015, 01:22:58 AM

The problems with spinning only arise in a flat earth!

I challenge you to name 1 problem with spinning.  You can not do it. Put up or shut up! 

Wow!!!  You shills are terrible!!  You can not even answer your own silly questions.

Ok, so it appears your profound ignorance has reared its ugly head yet again.

To further your education, it is a FACT that in the northern hemisphere, cyclones rotate in an anticlockwise direction and anti-cyclones rotate in a clockwise direction. In the southern hemisphere the rotational directions are reversed. The earth's spin accounts for these rotational spin directions as a consequence of the Coriolis effect.

There are millions of pilots, air traffic controllers, ship's captains, and meteorologists that know this, and these are basic facts for them, as it is required knowledge for their jobs.

It is obvious that your technical knowledge of anything to do with meteorology/weather is virtually non-existent. As an example of your ignorance, I would put money on the fact that you don't even know the mechanism behind the formation and creation of hail.

Quote from: chtwrone on September 09, 2015, 05:55:15 AM

You must be aware ....

.... uh, no. 
I do not have be aware of Chapter 33 in the shill cookbook or anything else you disturbed folks throw at the wall. 

Quote from: chtwrone on September 09, 2015, 05:55:15 AM

How does the flat earth model account for the differing directions of rotation?

Irrelevent. 

"How does the flat earth model account for the fact that you can not dig your way to China?" 

"How does the flat earth model account for the fact that you can not turn lead into gold??" 

"How does the flat earth model account for the fact that donkeys can not fly???" 

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 09, 2015, 01:22:58 AM

The problems with spinning only arise in a flat earth!

I challenge you to name 1 problem with spinning.  You can not do it. Put up or shut up! 

Wow!!!  You shills are terrible!!  You can not even answer your own silly questions.

I already named to you problems with it!!! The atmosphere would fly outwards due to the centrifugal force, or there would always be extremely strong wind from east to west, it wouldn't actually explain the Coriolis effect because the Coriolis effect makes objects spin in the opposite direction below the equator, and if you wanted to fly straight up, after a while you would be nowhere near your starting position!

What is the RE explanation for storms turning clockwise one side of the equator and turning the opposite the other side of the equator? What difference does the equator have to do with it? If the Earth is spinning W to E, why wouldn't all the storms turn the same way?