Is this why there's no map?

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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2015, 09:45:20 AM »
You don't think that it is delusional to clammier on about not having an accurate flat Earth map when you admit that your own maps are not very accurate?

well, I predict that if you use a global/spherical projection like google earth or a simple globe, measurments compared to the real world will turn out more correct that compared to a flat earth map. But since you don't have a map, I guess we will never find out. I suspect tho, that you know this and that's exactly why there is no map.

lol, Google uses balloons, remote control planes, and any thing else that can take a picture of the Earth, as the Google engineers admit, and then arranging the photos into the shape of a sphere, somehow is proof that the Earth is round?  You people make me sick.
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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2015, 09:57:07 AM »
You don't think that it is delusional to clammier on about not having an accurate flat Earth map when you admit that your own maps are not very accurate?

well, I predict that if you use a global/spherical projection like google earth or a simple globe, measurments compared to the real world will turn out more correct that compared to a flat earth map. But since you don't have a map, I guess we will never find out. I suspect tho, that you know this and that's exactly why there is no map.

lol, Google uses balloons, remote control planes, and any thing else that can take a picture of the Earth, as the Google engineers admit, and then arranging the photos into the shape of a sphere, somehow is proof that the Earth is round?  You people make me sick.
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Yes that is correct about google, if you do not understand the topic, i sugest you stay off this thread.

I have a suggestion for you, but I can't say it because I have been warned.  But, it rhymes with go truck yourself.

What an insightful reply. I have another suggestion for you, that goes along the lines of "Return to your underground shelter, person who regularly has sexual intercourse with his mother".
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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2015, 01:47:28 PM »
You don't think that it is delusional to clammier on about not having an accurate flat Earth map when you admit that your own maps are not very accurate?

well, I predict that if you use a global/spherical projection like google earth or a simple globe, measurments compared to the real world will turn out more correct that compared to a flat earth map. But since you don't have a map, I guess we will never find out. I suspect tho, that you know this and that's exactly why there is no map.

lol, Google uses balloons, remote control planes, and any thing else that can take a picture of the Earth, as the Google engineers admit, and then arranging the photos into the shape of a sphere, somehow is proof that the Earth is round?  You people make me sick.
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Yes that is correct about google, if you do not understand the topic, i sugest you stay off this thread.

I have a suggestion for you, but I can't say it because I have been warned.  But, it rhymes with go truck yourself.

Wow, you had me banned recently, but look at the level you are stooping to now? 

You might not have said 'GO FUCK YOURSELF', but that is exactly what you wanted to post - correct?

You really are just a sad and pathetic flat earth fantasist.
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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2015, 02:25:57 PM »

Maps are a visual aid that help give us a general guide of an area.
Modern maps are much more than that - they are extremely accurate.

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They are a useful tool in a lot of ways, but no map is ever 100% accurate.
Who ever claimed they were?

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A map cannot prove or disprove the shape of the Earth.
The fact is that if the earth were flat, all the current maps - which are all projections from the globe model - would be completely and hopelessly broken.   They are not.

Why does this work:



People use Google earth to successfully navigate all over the world.  Google Earth is a computer model based completely on a globe.



Again, if the earth were flat Google Earth would be broken and useless.  It's not. 

The earth's a globe, get over it.


Why do all Round Earthers believe that computer models and simulations are equivalent to reality? The majority of maps that exist in the world are not based off of a globe. Maps are two dimensional so no matter how you want to break it down, the world can very easily be represented accurately on a flat piece of paper. Google Earth is very useful for entertainment purposes, it is not an accurate scientific tool because the Earth is not a globe.

But the distances it gives are accurate, no?
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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2015, 03:20:37 PM »
Why do all Round Earthers believe that computer models and simulations are equivalent to reality? The majority of maps that exist in the world are not based off of a globe. Maps are two dimensional so no matter how you want to break it down,
The two I linked are both 3D - so this is clearly wrong.

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the world can very easily be represented accurately on a flat piece of paper.
As soon as you project onto a flat plane, it becomes distorted.  Either distances, shapes scale or all become inaccurate. If the earth were flat then there wouldn't be this problem, and every globe ever made would be wrong. 

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Google Earth is very useful for entertainment purposes, it is not an accurate scientific tool
Care to point out any inaccuracies in google earth?  Anything at all, remember it should be completely broken if in fact the world is flat.

It is used every day for shipping, aircraft and yes, science.  Here's a quick list of how it's used in scientific teaching:

http://serc.carleton.edu/sp/library/google_earth/activities.html

Or geologists using it:

http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/kmlgeology/

Or scientists using the google earth engine:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Earth_Engine

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The Google Earth Engine provides a data catalog along with computers for analysis; this creates an environment where scientists can collaboratively share data, algorithms, and visualizations using URLS’s.[4] Partnering with the United States Geological Survey, Google Earth Engine is using these 40 years of satellite images to provide images of changes in the Earth’s surface, to be used by corporations, scientists, governments and the people at large.[5] To drive this engine, Google went through 909 terabytes of data, images dating from 1984 to present day, and found the clearest images to improve research quality.[6] Initial applications of the engine have included mapping the forests of Mexico, identifying water in the Congo basin, and detecting deforestation in the Amazon.[7] Another application is the Timelapse project. Working in association with TIME, Google has created a global time-lapse image which allows users to view landscape changes in any location on Earth.
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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2015, 03:52:31 PM »
Why do all Round Earthers believe that computer models and simulations are equivalent to reality? The majority of maps that exist in the world are not based off of a globe. Maps are two dimensional so no matter how you want to break it down,
The two I linked are both 3D - so this is clearly wrong.

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the world can very easily be represented accurately on a flat piece of paper.
As soon as you project onto a flat plane, it becomes distorted.  Either distances, shapes scale or all become inaccurate. If the earth were flat then there wouldn't be this problem, and every globe ever made would be wrong. 

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Google Earth is very useful for entertainment purposes, it is not an accurate scientific tool
Care to point out any inaccuracies in google earth?  Anything at all, remember it should be completely broken if in fact the world is flat.

It is used every day for shipping, aircraft and yes, science.  Here's a quick list of how it's used in scientific teaching:

http://serc.carleton.edu/sp/library/google_earth/activities.html

Or geologists using it:

http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/kmlgeology/

Or scientists using the google earth engine:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Earth_Engine

eg

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The Google Earth Engine provides a data catalog along with computers for analysis; this creates an environment where scientists can collaboratively share data, algorithms, and visualizations using URLS’s.[4] Partnering with the United States Geological Survey, Google Earth Engine is using these 40 years of satellite images to provide images of changes in the Earth’s surface, to be used by corporations, scientists, governments and the people at large.[5] To drive this engine, Google went through 909 terabytes of data, images dating from 1984 to present day, and found the clearest images to improve research quality.[6] Initial applications of the engine have included mapping the forests of Mexico, identifying water in the Congo basin, and detecting deforestation in the Amazon.[7] Another application is the Timelapse project. Working in association with TIME, Google has created a global time-lapse image which allows users to view landscape changes in any location on Earth.

Exact. And the GE images are clearly satellite images. Satellite = gravity. Gravity = your flat earth theory got a big, big problem.

Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2015, 07:40:21 PM »
You've Got The Love"

Sometimes I feel like throwing my hands up in the air
I know I can count on you
Sometimes I feel like saying, "Lord, I just don't care."
But you've got the love I need To see me through

Sometimes it seems that the going is just too rough
And things go wrong no matter what I do
Now and then it seems that life is just too much
But you've got the love I need to see me through

When food is gone you are my daily meal
When friends are gone I know my Saviour's love is real
You know it's real

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love
Time after time I think, "Oh, Lord, what's the use?"
Time after time I think it's just no good
'Cause sooner or later in life, the things you love you lose
But you got the love I need to see me through

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love

Did Charles Bloomington just have a nervous breakdown?

This site is getting weirder and weirder...
No just a day in court being extorted  & having my bones picked over. Aparently I'm a bad  person for simply exsisting , how dare I be so selfish owning a blanket & asking people  are there any  odd jobs they need done  i can manage to do, to pay for a meal .

I have to pay the fine , plus court costs . How do I do that with out asking for work ?. NO !!! This world is gitting weirder & weirder .
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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2015, 02:03:03 AM »
You don't think that it is delusional to clammier on about not having an accurate flat Earth map when you admit that your own maps are not very accurate?

well, I predict that if you use a global/spherical projection like google earth or a simple globe, measurments compared to the real world will turn out more correct that compared to a flat earth map. But since you don't have a map, I guess we will never find out. I suspect tho, that you know this and that's exactly why there is no map.

lol, Google uses balloons, remote control planes, and any thing else that can take a picture of the Earth, as the Google engineers admit, and then arranging the photos into the shape of a sphere, somehow is proof that the Earth is round?  You people make me sick.
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Yes that is correct about google, if you do not understand the topic, i sugest you stay off this thread.

I have a suggestion for you, but I can't say it because I have been warned.  But, it rhymes with go truck yourself.
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I have stated in the introduction that I would like a factual discussion that is related to the topic. Everyone please join the debate and tell me what you think of this idea. As for jroa, you are not welcome to debate if you cant be nice and relate to the topic. Thank you
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If it's flat, that would be very interesting for science

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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2015, 02:39:45 AM »
You've Got The Love"

Sometimes I feel like throwing my hands up in the air
I know I can count on you
Sometimes I feel like saying, "Lord, I just don't care."
But you've got the love I need To see me through

Sometimes it seems that the going is just too rough
And things go wrong no matter what I do
Now and then it seems that life is just too much
But you've got the love I need to see me through

When food is gone you are my daily meal
When friends are gone I know my Saviour's love is real
You know it's real

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love
Time after time I think, "Oh, Lord, what's the use?"
Time after time I think it's just no good
'Cause sooner or later in life, the things you love you lose
But you got the love I need to see me through

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love

Did Charles Bloomington just have a nervous breakdown?

This site is getting weirder and weirder...
No just a day in court being extorted  & having my bones picked over. Aparently I'm a bad  person for simply exsisting , how dare I be so selfish owning a blanket & asking people  are there any  odd jobs they need done  i can manage to do, to pay for a meal .

I have to pay the fine , plus court costs . How do I do that with out asking for work ?. NO !!! This world is gitting weirder & weirder .

Guys, I think he broke down... We need a replacement...
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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2015, 02:43:48 AM »
You've Got The Love"

Sometimes I feel like throwing my hands up in the air
I know I can count on you
Sometimes I feel like saying, "Lord, I just don't care."
But you've got the love I need To see me through

Sometimes it seems that the going is just too rough
And things go wrong no matter what I do
Now and then it seems that life is just too much
But you've got the love I need to see me through

When food is gone you are my daily meal
When friends are gone I know my Saviour's love is real
You know it's real

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love
Time after time I think, "Oh, Lord, what's the use?"
Time after time I think it's just no good
'Cause sooner or later in life, the things you love you lose
But you got the love I need to see me through

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love

Did Charles Bloomington just have a nervous breakdown?

This site is getting weirder and weirder...
No just a day in court being extorted  & having my bones picked over. Aparently I'm a bad  person for simply exsisting , how dare I be so selfish owning a blanket & asking people  are there any  odd jobs they need done  i can manage to do, to pay for a meal .

I have to pay the fine , plus court costs . How do I do that with out asking for work ?. NO !!! This world is gitting weirder & weirder .

Guys, I think he broke down... We need a replacement...

Please stay with the topic, this is shit, you are basically shitting all over this thread, like jroa but he cant help it, I know you know better.
If it's flat, that would be very interesting for science

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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2015, 03:05:11 AM »
You've Got The Love"

Sometimes I feel like throwing my hands up in the air
I know I can count on you
Sometimes I feel like saying, "Lord, I just don't care."
But you've got the love I need To see me through

Sometimes it seems that the going is just too rough
And things go wrong no matter what I do
Now and then it seems that life is just too much
But you've got the love I need to see me through

When food is gone you are my daily meal
When friends are gone I know my Saviour's love is real
You know it's real

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love
Time after time I think, "Oh, Lord, what's the use?"
Time after time I think it's just no good
'Cause sooner or later in life, the things you love you lose
But you got the love I need to see me through

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love

Did Charles Bloomington just have a nervous breakdown?

This site is getting weirder and weirder...
No just a day in court being extorted  & having my bones picked over. Aparently I'm a bad  person for simply exsisting , how dare I be so selfish owning a blanket & asking people  are there any  odd jobs they need done  i can manage to do, to pay for a meal .

I have to pay the fine , plus court costs . How do I do that with out asking for work ?. NO !!! This world is gitting weirder & weirder .

Guys, I think he broke down... We need a replacement...

Please stay with the topic, this is shit, you are basically shitting all over this thread, like jroa but he cant help it, I know you know better.

I'm sorry, I just wanted to comment on this insanely weird breakdown that he had.

Anyway, back on topic, are we finally agreed that there is absolutely no way one can project a spherical surface on a flat surface while keeping the distances accurate? It would actually require squaring the circle... So now it's up to flat earthers to find a way to prove that the distances claimed on a round Earth are not real.
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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2015, 04:18:23 AM »
You've Got The Love"

Sometimes I feel like throwing my hands up in the air
I know I can count on you
Sometimes I feel like saying, "Lord, I just don't care."
But you've got the love I need To see me through

Sometimes it seems that the going is just too rough
And things go wrong no matter what I do
Now and then it seems that life is just too much
But you've got the love I need to see me through

When food is gone you are my daily meal
When friends are gone I know my Saviour's love is real
You know it's real

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love
Time after time I think, "Oh, Lord, what's the use?"
Time after time I think it's just no good
'Cause sooner or later in life, the things you love you lose
But you got the love I need to see me through

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love

Did Charles Bloomington just have a nervous breakdown?

This site is getting weirder and weirder...
No just a day in court being extorted  & having my bones picked over. Aparently I'm a bad  person for simply exsisting , how dare I be so selfish owning a blanket & asking people  are there any  odd jobs they need done  i can manage to do, to pay for a meal .

I have to pay the fine , plus court costs . How do I do that with out asking for work ?. NO !!! This world is gitting weirder & weirder .

Guys, I think he broke down... We need a replacement...

Please stay with the topic, this is shit, you are basically shitting all over this thread, like jroa but he cant help it, I know you know better.

I'm sorry, I just wanted to comment on this insanely weird breakdown that he had.

Anyway, back on topic, are we finally agreed that there is absolutely no way one can project a spherical surface on a flat surface while keeping the distances accurate? It would actually require squaring the circle... So now it's up to flat earthers to find a way to prove that the distances claimed on a round Earth are not real.
Yes I agree. And for example I would very much like to see how they can explain especially the flight times on routes close to the north and south pole.
If it's flat, that would be very interesting for science

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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2015, 05:25:06 PM »
Maps are a visual aid that help give us a general guide of an area. They are a useful tool in a lot of ways, but no map is ever 100% accurate. A map cannot prove or disprove the shape of the Earth.

your right, no map will ever be 100% accurate. that's why we have globes
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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2015, 05:53:32 PM »
your right, no map will ever be 100% accurate.

Then, why do you people harp on about us not having a 100% accurate map all the time?  Sounds a little hypocritical to me. 

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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2015, 09:54:03 PM »
your right, no map will ever be 100% accurate.

Then, why do you people harp on about us not having a 100% accurate map all the time?  Sounds a little hypocritical to me.

It's not about you not having a 100% accurate map, it's about you not having a map where the accuracy is remotely close to having 100%, or even 90% accuracy. A lot of your maps have horrible distortions at some part of the map that makes it awful to use at that one area.
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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #45 on: September 06, 2015, 11:55:38 PM »
your right, no map will ever be 100% accurate.

Then, why do you people harp on about us not having a 100% accurate map all the time?  Sounds a little hypocritical to me.

i'm guessing you didn't bother to read the rest of my sentence.

what i'm saying is that no 2-d map will ever be 100% right, but 3-d maps can, witch could only work if the earth was round.
"The disc, being flat, has no real horizon. Any adventurous sailor would soon learn that the reason why distant ships sometimes looked as though they were disappearing over the edge of the world was that they were disappearing over the edge of the world. "-discworld

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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2015, 01:53:00 AM »
your right, no map will ever be 100% accurate.

Then, why do you people harp on about us not having a 100% accurate map all the time?
We harp about you not even having any map at all.
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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2015, 02:32:48 AM »
your right, no map will ever be 100% accurate.

Then, why do you people harp on about us not having a 100% accurate map all the time?  Sounds a little hypocritical to me.

But you guys don't even have a map, we do and it's pretty accurate. The idea os to compare your map against real measurements, and then compare a globe map to real world measurements. So show me your map, and I will tell you the shape of your world.
If it's flat, that would be very interesting for science

Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2015, 03:22:39 AM »
You've Got The Love"

Sometimes I feel like throwing my hands up in the air
I know I can count on you
Sometimes I feel like saying, "Lord, I just don't care."
But you've got the love I need To see me through

Sometimes it seems that the going is just too rough
And things go wrong no matter what I do
Now and then it seems that life is just too much
But you've got the love I need to see me through

When food is gone you are my daily meal
When friends are gone I know my Saviour's love is real
You know it's real

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love
Time after time I think, "Oh, Lord, what's the use?"
Time after time I think it's just no good
'Cause sooner or later in life, the things you love you lose
But you got the love I need to see me through

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love

Did Charles Bloomington just have a nervous breakdown?

This site is getting weirder and weirder...
No just a day in court being extorted  & having my bones picked over. Aparently I'm a bad  person for simply exsisting , how dare I be so selfish owning a blanket & asking people  are there any  odd jobs they need done  i can manage to do, to pay for a meal .

I have to pay the fine , plus court costs . How do I do that with out asking for work ?. NO !!! This world is gitting weirder & weirder .

Guys, I think he broke down... We need a replacement...

Please stay with the topic, this is shit, you are basically shitting all over this thread, like jroa but he cant help it, I know you know better.
There is a flat earth map . Its used every day at high level dealings  & its a lot more accurate then the globe crap your being feed .  Do I feel like being beat up in life anymore , specking out on taboo subject's . For ignorant shit bags like your selves  If you want to see the maps they use go dig for them . But remember it will be life changing in more ways then one .
My world now consists  of finding a warn shelter & a meal. Like I give a phark what you cock suckers pretend & lie about.
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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2015, 04:09:56 AM »
your right, no map will ever be 100% accurate.

Then, why do you people harp on about us not having a 100% accurate map all the time?  Sounds a little hypocritical to me.

There are gradients in inaccuracies. A flat map is always a distortion. The FE model seems to be using a Azimuthal Quidistant Projection. This type of map is most accurate near the north pole, and distorts more towards the south, thus making distance between (for example) South Africa and South America relatively longer than they really are. About 3 or 4 times longer, relative to distances in Europe... For example, read my thread about triangles: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=64289.0#.Ve1vOhHtlBc

The distances are known, and it is fairly easy to make an icosahedron from the 12 points I provided. The Azimuthal Quidistant Projection not only shows inaccurate distances, they are blatantly obviously distorted... A travel time 4 times longer is absolutely noticable...

In 1950 the ED50 model was invented in Europe, which seemed to work quite well for European maps. It showed, however, not to be accurate enough for the entire world, thus in 1984 a group of scientists verified the data to optimize the system. The slightly modified version is WGS84. It is still inaccurate, but the inaccuracy is known: the center of the physical earth is at most 2 cm away from the center of the WGS84 system. 
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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2015, 05:54:59 AM »
You've Got The Love"

Sometimes I feel like throwing my hands up in the air
I know I can count on you
Sometimes I feel like saying, "Lord, I just don't care."
But you've got the love I need To see me through

Sometimes it seems that the going is just too rough
And things go wrong no matter what I do
Now and then it seems that life is just too much
But you've got the love I need to see me through

When food is gone you are my daily meal
When friends are gone I know my Saviour's love is real
You know it's real

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love
Time after time I think, "Oh, Lord, what's the use?"
Time after time I think it's just no good
'Cause sooner or later in life, the things you love you lose
But you got the love I need to see me through

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love

Did Charles Bloomington just have a nervous breakdown?

This site is getting weirder and weirder...
No just a day in court being extorted  & having my bones picked over. Aparently I'm a bad  person for simply exsisting , how dare I be so selfish owning a blanket & asking people  are there any  odd jobs they need done  i can manage to do, to pay for a meal .

I have to pay the fine , plus court costs . How do I do that with out asking for work ?. NO !!! This world is gitting weirder & weirder .

Guys, I think he broke down... We need a replacement...

Please stay with the topic, this is shit, you are basically shitting all over this thread, like jroa but he cant help it, I know you know better.
There is a flat earth map . Its used every day at high level dealings  & its a lot more accurate then the globe crap your being feed .  Do I feel like being beat up in life anymore , specking out on taboo subject's . For ignorant shit bags like your selves  If you want to see the maps they use go dig for them . But remember it will be life changing in more ways then one .
My world now consists  of finding a warn shelter & a meal. Like I give a phark what you cock suckers pretend & lie about.

Then i would very much like to see this map, but I can't seem to find any. Could you please be kind and help me with a link or some source?
If it's flat, that would be very interesting for science

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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #51 on: August 03, 2016, 11:14:10 PM »

Maps are a visual aid that help give us a general guide of an area.
Modern maps are much more than that - they are extremely accurate.

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They are a useful tool in a lot of ways, but no map is ever 100% accurate.
Who ever claimed they were?

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A map cannot prove or disprove the shape of the Earth.
The fact is that if the earth were flat, all the current maps - which are all projections from the globe model - would be completely and hopelessly broken.   They are not.

Why does this work:



People use Google earth to successfully navigate all over the world.  Google Earth is a computer model based completely on a globe.



Again, if the earth were flat Google Earth would be broken and useless.  It's not. 

The earth's a globe, get over it.


Why do all Round Earthers believe that computer models and simulations are equivalent to reality? The majority of maps that exist in the world are not based off of a globe. Maps are two dimensional so no matter how you want to break it down, the world can very easily be represented accurately on a flat piece of paper. Google Earth is very useful for entertainment purposes, it is not an accurate scientific tool because the Earth is not a globe.

The problem is that maps do not accurately represent the world. If they did, then there would be NO distortion. However, we all know that they do, so that make them a failed model. Oh, and by the way, every modern map is based off a spherical earth, which is WHY they have distortions, since there is no way to show the surface of a three dimensional sphere on a flat plain without distortion.
Remember to think critically.

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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2016, 05:22:18 AM »

Why do all Round Earthers believe that computer models and simulations are equivalent to reality? The majority of maps that exist in the world are not based off of a globe. Maps are two dimensional so no matter how you want to break it down, the world can very easily be represented accurately on a flat piece of paper. Google Earth is very useful for entertainment purposes, it is not an accurate scientific tool because the Earth is not a globe.

Show me a map of the entire surface of the planet on a flat piece of paper and I will show you how it is in accurate.

A globe is the only way to accurately map the entire surface.

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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2016, 07:08:10 AM »
You don't think that it is delusional to clammier on about not having an accurate flat Earth map when you admit that your own maps are not very accurate?

well, I predict that if you use a global/spherical projection like google earth or a simple globe, measurments compared to the real world will turn out more correct that compared to a flat earth map. But since you don't have a map, I guess we will never find out. I suspect tho, that you know this and that's exactly why there is no map.

lol, Google uses balloons, remote control planes, and any thing else that can take a picture of the Earth, as the Google engineers admit, and then arranging the photos into the shape of a sphere, somehow is proof that the Earth is round?  You people make me sick.
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Yes that is correct about google, if you do not understand the topic, i sugest you stay off this thread.

it's makes sense

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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #54 on: September 06, 2016, 07:08:38 AM »
Apart from the fact, and it seems to be conceded as fact, that the Earth is actually round and therefor no flat representation can be without distortion, it also has to be admitted that a map of the Flat Earth would have to show the EDGE, the BARRIER, y'know, the ULTIMATE LIMIT of the Planet Earth - whether it's where everything drops off the side or the dome bangs down on the surface or something like that, and it would be in every direction if you go far enough.  We know it cannot be Antarctica because plenty of people have sailed around Antarctica - it took them a matter of weeks and it took less fuel and mileage than circumnavigating Australia.  Every place where the EDGE has been theorized, someone has sailed or flown and proven that the world doesn't end there.

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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2016, 07:55:00 AM »
And I think no flat-earth map would be able to explain the flight times... ::)


Maps are a visual aid that help give us a general guide of an area. They are a useful tool in a lot of ways, but no map is ever 100% accurate. A map cannot prove or disprove the shape of the Earth.
Until you fold it up as a globe. Then it makes perfect sense ;)
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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #56 on: January 12, 2017, 09:07:24 PM »
First and foremost, IF the earth were flat then it should be easy for FEers to have come up, long ago, with an equally flat map that would be accurate and undistorted in every way, involving no complicated math (only the scale - e.g., one inch equal ten thousand miles), and clearly showing where THE EDGE is.  But they can't and won't.

Second, accepting that the Earth is round does not mean that "all flat maps are broken".   I think REers will agree that world maps on flat paper would have some distortion problems, and even maps of very large areas such as the whole of the United States or Canada would have some distortions.  A map of a city would have distortions also, but so slight that only a micrometer might detect them.  Most road maps have worse distortions simply in the width of the lines that represent highways and of the dots that represent towns. 

Pilots, navigators, and the like know which maps to use for their needs, how to compensate for the distortions, and so forth.

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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #57 on: January 12, 2017, 10:09:06 PM »
Did we finish to convincing human and start to convincing animals ?
Ju** is a troll homo playing role of girl.

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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2017, 01:55:36 AM »
Navigators have been using flat Earth maps for at least a couple of thousand years.  ::)
They have been using flat Earth maps over a small area, or projections of a spherical Earth.

You don't think that it is delusional to clammier on about not having an accurate flat Earth map when you admit that your own maps are not very accurate?

No. Flat projections of a spherical Earth all have significant distortions or inaccuracies. All flat maps of Earth have these errors.
We have a spherical map which is very accurate.

So no, it isn't delusional to point out all the flat maps of Earth are wrong.
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Re: Is this why there's no map?
« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2017, 02:00:26 AM »
And I think no flat-earth map would be able to explain the flight times... ::)


Maps are a visual aid that help give us a general guide of an area. They are a useful tool in a lot of ways, but no map is ever 100% accurate. A map cannot prove or disprove the shape of the Earth.

Alfred Korzybski said this best when he talked of mistaking the map for the territory. Our models of the world are just models of our interpretation of the world, they are not reality.

No. They can be quite effective at proving or disproving the shape of Earth.

The fact that no flat map can ever accurately show distances and bearings correctly and to scale proves that Earth is not flat.
The fact that a spherical map (i.e. globe) can accurately show distances and bearings and the like indicates that Earth is most likely round.
The fact that there are a multitude of flat maps (all produced from the same data), all with significant errors rather than a single one proves that Earth is not flat.
The fact that there is a single spherical map, with very small errors, indicates Earth is most likely round.

If Earth was flat, the opposite would be true; there would be a single flat map which got everything right (with only very small errors) and a multitude of spherical maps that have serious errors.

So yes, maps and how accurately they reflect the surface they are mapping can show quite a bit about Earth's surface.

Sure, you don't actually need the maps, you can merely point out various facts about Earth which shows geometrically that Earth can't be flat.