One step south

I am new to this flat earth concept and trying to understand the physics here. According to the flat earth scenario and to your own map, if I go to the south "edge" and take one more step, I am now at the northern "edge". This is according to your own map. Please explain.

What map is that?

I am new to this flat earth concept and trying to understand the physics here. According to the flat earth scenario and to your own map, if I go to the south "edge" and take one more step, I am now at the northern "edge". This is according to your own map. Please explain.

They don't have a map, because either they are lazy or know that it can disprove flat earth.

Quote from: Relentless on August 31, 2015, 12:38:26 PM

I am new to this flat earth concept and trying to understand the physics here. According to the flat earth scenario and to your own map, if I go to the south "edge" and take one more step, I am now at the northern "edge". This is according to your own map. Please explain.

They don't have a map, because either they are lazy or know that it can disprove flat earth.

I think your right, probably lazy. I have enough trouble getting out of bed these days, let alone making maps.

These are the maps I have seen from the society.

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/cms/index.php/gallery/flat-earth-maps

Still wondering about the one step south.

These are the maps I have seen from the society.

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/cms/index.php/gallery/flat-earth-maps

Still wondering about the one step south.

No i meant that there is not a map that's accepted by all or most Flat Earthers. So when you say there is something wrong with their map then their reaction will most likely be "we don't have a map" or something along those lines.

I am new to this flat earth concept and trying to understand the physics here. According to the flat earth scenario and to your own map, if I go to the south "edge" and take one more step, I am now at the northern "edge". This is according to your own map. Please explain.

Not sure where you get the idea from that the flat earth map has northern and southern 'edges'?

The only 'edge' that you will ever see a flat earther refer to, is the outer 'edge', where their fictional 360 degree ice wall surrounding the whole world is supposed to exist. We know it as Antarctica, a place where flat earthers dispute that the 24 hour sun phenomenon actually exists. However, this 24 hour sun is of course fact, the same as it is within the Arctic circle, and has been seen and experienced by ten of thousands of individuals over the years - it is NOT disputed in any way.

Unfortunately, this 24 hour sun within the Antarctic circle completely and utterly destroys the flat earth theory, which is why flat earthers always deny its existence.

No i meant that there is not a map that's accepted by all or most Flat Earthers. So when you say there is something wrong with their map then their reaction will most likely be "we don't have a map" or something along those lines.

So in short flat earthers have no idea what they are talking about and have no qualifications to be rewriting physics especially without experimentation and science.

Relentless, I am ready and willing to disprove whatever convinced you that flat Earth theory is correct.  The excuse for a theory cannot even explain sunsets and the only reason people believe it is because they didn't make an objective decision.  To make an objective decision you need to hear both sides of the debate, and I am willing to admit you haven't been looking up proof against flat Earth.

Don't you listen to mikey. Here is some common sense for you. We all know that water runs off a round ball. Get any size ball and pour water on it and you will see that water run off the ball onto the ground. The globe people says that an imaginary force is what keeps this from happening on a ball Earth. You wouldn't believe in an imaginary force would you? Funny isn't it. HaHa!

Now the Flat earthers are smarter then this. They know that water runs off a ball and they don't believe in an imaginary force, so their theory is, an ice wall surrounds the whole Earth to hold the water in. Doesn't that make more sense to you? It does me.

Quote from: Flopsinator on August 31, 2015, 01:51:50 PM

No i meant that there is not a map that's accepted by all or most Flat Earthers. So when you say there is something wrong with their map then their reaction will most likely be "we don't have a map" or something along those lines.

So in short flat earthers have no idea what they are talking about and have no qualifications to be rewriting physics especially without experimentation and science.

Relentless, I am ready and willing to disprove whatever convinced you that flat Earth theory is correct.  The excuse for a theory cannot even explain sunsets and the only reason people believe it is because they didn't make an objective decision.  To make an objective decision you need to hear both sides of the debate, and I am willing to admit you haven't been looking up proof against flat Earth.

Haha

It is truly funny that there are members here that exist solely to deter people from Flat Earth Theory.

The problem with experimentation and science in this case is that mainstream science is largely made up of theories to explain everything and these theories are presented as fact. If the conclusions you come to go against current scientific theories you are treated like an idiot. Experimentation is almost impossible for a Flat Earth Explorer without a great deal of disposable income and a truly comprehensive study on the subject would be illegal. I can't see any government on Earth that would allow a private citizen to attempt to send crafts into space, or allow you to thoroughly explore Antarctica.

mainstream science is largely made up of theories to explain everything and these theories are presented as fact.

Are you aware that words have different meanings when used in different contexts?
Willful ignorance is not an argument. You make no effort to acknowledge or respond to the mountains of evidence that science has (and which has been corroborated multiple times, all over the world, even by private systems), or to admit that none of the facts that mikeman relies upon are beyond your ability to observe. For example, sunsets. You do not need a budget to look outside.

 Sunsets do not prove or disprove the shape of the Earth. I know you were all told that it did in science class. More on this later as I see this is a sore topic for some of you and would really like to go further into the subject when I have more time.

Just like scepti and his model of the ice dome?
All of your claims are safely treated as false without any form of evidence.

Sunsets do not prove or disprove the shape of the Earth. I know you were all told that it did in science class. More on this later as I see this is a sore topic for some of you and would really like to go further into the subject when I have more time.

I was not told that in science class, I used that squishy thing occupying the cavity in my skull to figure it out.

Don't you listen to mikey. Here is some common sense for you. We all know that water runs off a round ball. Get any size ball and pour water on it and you will see that water run off the ball onto the ground. The globe people says that an imaginary force is what keeps this from happening on a ball Earth. You wouldn't believe in an imaginary force would you? Funny isn't it. HaHa!

Now the Flat earthers are smarter then this. They know that water runs off a ball and they don't believe in an imaginary force, so their theory is, an ice wall surrounds the whole Earth to hold the water in. Doesn't that make more sense to you? It does me.

I can understand why you believe that makes sense.    You might not like my reason however.   

Don't you listen to mikey. Here is some common sense for you. We all know that water runs off a round ball. Get any size ball and pour water on it and you will see that water run off the ball onto the ground. The globe people says that an imaginary force is what keeps this from happening on a ball Earth. You wouldn't believe in an imaginary force would you? Funny isn't it. HaHa!

Now the Flat earthers are smarter then this. They know that water runs off a ball and they don't believe in an imaginary force, so their theory is, an ice wall surrounds the whole Earth to hold the water in. Doesn't that make more sense to you? It does me.

Yendor, I can't believe we.still have to explain such things to you. So I ask you: what force makes the water run off? Guess what. Gravity. If there is nothing to make the water run off in the first place, and since the earth has a gravity attracting the water towards it's center, how would it run off?

And flat earthers don't believe in an imaginary force? Give me a break. What is universal acceleration then?

Don't you listen to mikey. Here is some common sense for you. We all know that water runs off a round ball. Get any size ball and pour water on it and you will see that water run off the ball onto the ground. The globe people says that an imaginary force is what keeps this from happening on a ball Earth. You wouldn't believe in an imaginary force would you? Funny isn't it. HaHa!

Now the Flat earthers are smarter then this. They know that water runs off a ball and they don't believe in an imaginary force, so their theory is, an ice wall surrounds the whole Earth to hold the water in. Doesn't that make more sense to you? It does me.

Yendor, I can't believe we.still have to explain such things to you. So I ask you: what force makes the water run off? Guess what. Gravity. If there is nothing to make the water run off in the first place, and since the earth has a gravity attracting the water towards it's center, how would it run off?

And flat earthers don't believe in an imaginary force? Give me a break. What is universal acceleration then?

Quote from: Yendor on August 31, 2015, 03:40:10 PM

Don't you listen to mikey. Here is some common sense for you. We all know that water runs off a round ball. Get any size ball and pour water on it and you will see that water run off the ball onto the ground. The globe people says that an imaginary force is what keeps this from happening on a ball Earth. You wouldn't believe in an imaginary force would you? Funny isn't it. HaHa!

Now the Flat earthers are smarter then this. They know that water runs off a ball and they don't believe in an imaginary force, so their theory is, an ice wall surrounds the whole Earth to hold the water in. Doesn't that make more sense to you? It does me.

Yendor, I can't believe we.still have to explain such things to you. So I ask you: what force makes the water run off? Guess what. Gravity. If there is nothing to make the water run off in the first place, and since the earth has a gravity attracting the water towards it's center, how would it run off?

And flat earthers don't believe in an imaginary force? Give me a break. What is universal acceleration then?

You guys, don't try and confuse Relentess. I've explained to you people that gravity is just a fancy word for atmospheric pressure. It is just a made up word by Newton. He himself couldn't even explain it. I've told and told you I don't know how many time that what you call gravity does not work the way you where taught in school and you still don't listen. What is wrong with you guys? Not all FEers believe in UA, I don't for one. To me it is plain silly, almost as silly as your gravity thing. Alot of your scientist friends are starting to wake up and agree with me. I even gave you a few examples.

Quote from: Flopsinator on August 31, 2015, 01:51:50 PM

No i meant that there is not a map that's accepted by all or most Flat Earthers. So when you say there is something wrong with their map then their reaction will most likely be "we don't have a map" or something along those lines.

So in short flat earthers have no idea what they are talking about and have no qualifications to be rewriting physics especially without experimentation and science.

Relentless, I am ready and willing to disprove whatever convinced you that flat Earth theory is correct.  The excuse for a theory cannot even explain sunsets and the only reason people believe it is because they didn't make an objective decision.  To make an objective decision you need to hear both sides of the debate, and I am willing to admit you haven't been looking up proof against flat Earth.

No i was just saying that they don't have a official map. That is pretty much all.
I do believe in a round earth however so i either said something wrong or you read something wrong.

Why don't you guys stop fighting about water on balls, imaginery forces and flat maps. Make love not war, and if you don't agree, that's fine too. Just try to be nice and take a look at this beautiful picture of the entire earth, which was taken by the astronauts on apollo 17 on dec. 7. 1972. This single picture is called "The Blue Marble" and it was taken while the apollo spacecraft was in deep space between earth and the moon. Science is about exploring nature, so let's.

"Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere." -Carl Sagan

No i was just saying that they don't have a official map. That is pretty much all.
I do believe in a round earth however so i either said something wrong or you read something wrong.

I know you are a round earther.  Most of that wasn't directed toward you.

Why don't you guys stop fighting about water on balls, imaginery forces and flat maps. Make love not war, and if you don't agree, that's fine too. Just try to be nice and take a look at this beautiful picture of the entire earth, which was taken by the astronauts on apollo 17 on dec. 7. 1972. This single picture is called "The Blue Marble" and it was taken while the apollo spacecraft was in deep space between earth and the moon. Science is about exploring nature, so let's.

"Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere." -Carl Sagan

I believe I can see my house. Good fake picture.

Quote from: sircool on September 01, 2015, 12:01:21 PM

Why don't you guys stop fighting about water on balls, imaginery forces and flat maps. Make love not war, and if you don't agree, that's fine too. Just try to be nice and take a look at this beautiful picture of the entire earth, which was taken by the astronauts on apollo 17 on dec. 7. 1972. This single picture is called "The Blue Marble" and it was taken while the apollo spacecraft was in deep space between earth and the moon. Science is about exploring nature, so let's.

"Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere." -Carl Sagan

I believe I can see my house. Good fake picture.

So it's fake because... It doesn't agree with what you believe?

Take a look at the top, that's the south pole aka antarctica. I know some of you think there is a vast ocean behind these icy walls and guess what? They where right all along, researchers even found a thriving ecosystem beneath the ice, take a look at this:

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/its-alive-fish-discovered-under-half-mile-antarctic-ice-n290681

It's a shame we are desrupting the balance of nature by heating up our atmosphere:(

Take a look at the top, that's the south pole aka antarctica. I know some of you think there is a vast ocean behind these icy walls and guess what? They where right all along, researcherd even found a thriving ecosystem beneath the ice, tale a look at this:

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/its-alive-fish-discovered-under-half-mile-antarctic-ice-n290681

It's a shame we are desrupting the balance of nature by heating up our atmosphere:(

I'm a bit confused about what you're trying to say. Can you please elaborate?

Quote from: sircool on September 02, 2015, 02:23:55 AM

Take a look at the top, that's the south pole aka antarctica. I know some of you think there is a vast ocean behind these icy walls and guess what? They where right all along, researcherd even found a thriving ecosystem beneath the ice, tale a look at this:

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/its-alive-fish-discovered-under-half-mile-antarctic-ice-n290681

It's a shame we are desrupting the balance of nature by heating up our atmosphere:(

I'm a bit confused about what you're trying to say. Can you please elaborate?

Sorry about my grammar, autocorrect is set on norwegian. I have corrected the obvious errors.

Anyway, did you read the article? The pic i posted was my refrence, if you examine the upper part of the planet, you will see antarctica. The article is about a vast lake with an ecosystem beneath the ice. Since the topic was about the south pole, yes?

Interesting discoveries are made there. Hence my point being we should embrace science because nature is awesome!

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 02, 2015, 02:32:39 AM

Quote from: sircool on September 02, 2015, 02:23:55 AM

Take a look at the top, that's the south pole aka antarctica. I know some of you think there is a vast ocean behind these icy walls and guess what? They where right all along, researcherd even found a thriving ecosystem beneath the ice, tale a look at this:

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/its-alive-fish-discovered-under-half-mile-antarctic-ice-n290681

It's a shame we are desrupting the balance of nature by heating up our atmosphere:(

I'm a bit confused about what you're trying to say. Can you please elaborate?

Sorry about my grammar, autocorrect is set on norwegian. I have corrected the obvious errors.

Anyway, did you read the article? The pic i posted was my refrence, if you examine the upper part of the planet, you will see antarctica. The article is about a vast lake with an ecosystem beneath the ice. Since the topic was about the south pole, yes?

Interesting discoveries are made there. Hence my point being we should embrace science because nature is awesome!

Yeah, I read the article, and I agree, nature is awesome! But I thought you were trying to make a point about the flat earth ice wall or something.

Quote from: sircool on September 02, 2015, 02:41:54 AM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 02, 2015, 02:32:39 AM

Quote from: sircool on September 02, 2015, 02:23:55 AM

Take a look at the top, that's the south pole aka antarctica. I know some of you think there is a vast ocean behind these icy walls and guess what? They where right all along, researcherd even found a thriving ecosystem beneath the ice, tale a look at this:

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/its-alive-fish-discovered-under-half-mile-antarctic-ice-n290681

It's a shame we are desrupting the balance of nature by heating up our atmosphere:(

I'm a bit confused about what you're trying to say. Can you please elaborate?

Sorry about my grammar, autocorrect is set on norwegian. I have corrected the obvious errors.

Anyway, did you read the article? The pic i posted was my refrence, if you examine the upper part of the planet, you will see antarctica. The article is about a vast lake with an ecosystem beneath the ice. Since the topic was about the south pole, yes?

Interesting discoveries are made there. Hence my point being we should embrace science because nature is awesome!

Yeah, I read the article, and I agree, nature is awesome! But I thought you were trying to make a point about the flat earth ice wall or something.

Yes that IS my point, they found the "ocean" every FE is talking about. And also if you Get insecure about earth's shape in the future, just take a look at this picture and you will remember!

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 02, 2015, 03:00:27 AM

Quote from: sircool on September 02, 2015, 02:41:54 AM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on September 02, 2015, 02:32:39 AM

Quote from: sircool on September 02, 2015, 02:23:55 AM

Take a look at the top, that's the south pole aka antarctica. I know some of you think there is a vast ocean behind these icy walls and guess what? They where right all along, researcherd even found a thriving ecosystem beneath the ice, tale a look at this:

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/its-alive-fish-discovered-under-half-mile-antarctic-ice-n290681

It's a shame we are desrupting the balance of nature by heating up our atmosphere:(

I'm a bit confused about what you're trying to say. Can you please elaborate?

Sorry about my grammar, autocorrect is set on norwegian. I have corrected the obvious errors.

Anyway, did you read the article? The pic i posted was my refrence, if you examine the upper part of the planet, you will see antarctica. The article is about a vast lake with an ecosystem beneath the ice. Since the topic was about the south pole, yes?

Interesting discoveries are made there. Hence my point being we should embrace science because nature is awesome!

Yeah, I read the article, and I agree, nature is awesome! But I thought you were trying to make a point about the flat earth ice wall or something.

Yes that IS my point, they found the "ocean" every FE is talking about. And also if you Get insecure about earth's shape in the future, just take a look at this picture and you will remember!

Uh... I think you're kinda confused. They didn't find any "hidden ocean". They already knew that this was there. It's just sea under ice. They just found fish down there. I fail to see how it has anything to do with a flat earth.

And I don't ever get insecure about the shape of the Earth. I know it's a globe.

Sorry i didnt know, but that's great! Have a nice day!