Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before

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Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« on: August 21, 2015, 05:43:18 PM »


Quote from: Philip Smith
I imaged on 8-17-15 the ISS at 59° from my backyard. I made this combo image to show you my image and a internet image of what the ISS looks like in space. I used my Edge HD 14 OTA with a SKYnyx 2.2 Mono CCD camera that has global shutter. The Barlow X 1.6 with an Astrodon orange filter. All on an custom modified EQ-G and ER tracking software made for me and my mount.
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I say amateur meaning he's not a professional astronomer or space-guy. He may be a professional photographer I have no idea.
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2015, 05:54:06 PM »
Wow, those are great photos!
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2015, 06:22:25 PM »
What story do you have for this one? I need a good story.
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2015, 05:27:19 AM »
The original Star Wars looked more realistic than that.  lol

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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2015, 09:51:29 AM »
The original Star Wars looked more realistic than that.  lol

Maybe you missed the fact that this was taken by some random guy with a telescope and you can see the ISS and take photos like that too if you have the right hardware.  Even decent binoculars will allow you to make out the shape of the station.
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2015, 01:02:17 PM »
What a lovely animation. I prefer this one though:

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It's much more realistic (screenshot of vid):

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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2015, 01:46:36 PM »
The original Star Wars looked more realistic than that.  lol

Maybe you missed the fact that this was taken by some random guy with a telescope and you can see the ISS and take photos like that too if you have the right hardware.  Even decent binoculars will allow you to make out the shape of the station.

How is this guy random?  Was there a lotto drawing to determine who would take the photo?  Or, do you mean random as in, "It could be anyone," like NASA, who supplied the photos?  Perhaps you should look up the definition of the word random before you just toss it out, or maybe you are just making up your own definition for words?  You tell me. :-\

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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2015, 01:53:19 PM »
Sorry Jroa but in the dictionary the random when used as an adjective can be used simply to mean 'unknown'. So the use of random by Mikeman is perfectly fine. So before you criticise perhaps YOU should look up the word yourself.
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2015, 01:57:39 PM »
Which dictionary are you misquoting? 

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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2015, 02:39:52 PM »
How is this guy random?  Was there a lotto drawing to determine who would take the photo?  Or, do you mean random as in, "It could be anyone," like NASA, who supplied the photos?  Perhaps you should look up the definition of the word random before you just toss it out, or maybe you are just making up your own definition for words?  You tell me. :-\

I mean random as in not in any way associated with any of the hundreds of huge agencies that would have to be in on the impossible conspiracy you believe in.
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2015, 02:44:21 PM »
I see.  So, you made up your own definition for the word. 

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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2015, 02:54:20 PM »
Which dictionary are you misquoting?

Dictionary.com:-
Informal.
unknown, unidentified, or out of place:
A couple of random guys showed up at the party.
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2015, 04:40:12 PM »
How to discredit someone - the flat earther way.
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2015, 04:53:18 PM »
Which dictionary are you misquoting?

Dictionary.com:-
Informal.
unknown, unidentified, or out of place:
A couple of random guys showed up at the party.


lol, informally tween talk.  I did not realize we were texting each other. 

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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2015, 04:59:39 PM »
I see.  So, you made up your own definition for the word.

I assumed that flat earthers could pick up on what I was trying to say by using logic but now I see where I went wrong.
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2015, 03:27:08 PM »
The original Star Wars looked more realistic than that.  lol

Since you have no reference for what the ISS "should" look like, your comment here is irrelevant and meaningless.
Unless you can say how what is shown departs from what "should" be seen (which you don't) then keep your gob shut.
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2015, 03:31:43 PM »
How to discredit someone - the flat earther way.
Now the moderator needs to get back on topic.

How do you disprove the pictures? Saying "Fake" is not evidence.
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2015, 03:37:48 PM »
The original Star Wars looked more realistic than that.  lol

Since you have no reference for what the ISS "should" look like, your comment here is irrelevant and meaningless.
Unless you can say how what is shown departs from what "should" be seen (which you don't) then keep your gob shut.

I am supposed to reference what a make believe flying trashcan is supposed to look like?  Are you serious?  I thought you people were the science fiction writers, with your pretend flying transmitters zooming around at a gazillion miles per hour, yet now, you are requiring for me to do your legwork?  Do you understand that this does not make your side look very bright? 

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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2015, 11:24:47 PM »
Which dictionary are you misquoting?

Dictionary.com:-
Informal.
unknown, unidentified, or out of place:
A couple of random guys showed up at the party.


lol, informally tween talk.  I did not realize we were texting each other.

Nope, sorry. Just the informal use of the word which has a high enough usage to warrant an entry in the dictionary. Mikeman used it over in U.S. and it is often used in the same context here in the UK.
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2015, 12:02:25 AM »
Which dictionary are you misquoting?

Dictionary.com:-
Informal.
unknown, unidentified, or out of place:
A couple of random guys showed up at the party.


lol, informally tween talk.  I did not realize we were texting each other.

Nope, sorry. Just the informal use of the word which has a high enough usage to warrant an entry in the dictionary. Mikeman used it over in U.S. and it is often used in the same context here in the UK.

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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2015, 05:04:34 AM »
Which dictionary are you misquoting?

Dictionary.com:-
Informal.
unknown, unidentified, or out of place:
A couple of random guys showed up at the party.


lol, informally tween talk.  I did not realize we were texting each other.

Nope, sorry. Just the informal use of the word which has a high enough usage to warrant an entry in the dictionary. Mikeman used it over in U.S. and it is often used in the same context here in the UK.

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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2015, 06:34:51 AM »
so u no my bff? :(

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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2015, 08:29:47 AM »
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2015, 09:21:34 AM »
To me, this video of the ISS shows it is actually tumbling. The video is looped, so it starts over before it actually completes the tumble. I bet it would tumble if they didn't stop the video. The live stream of ISS shows it perfectly straight and level all the time. Does anyone else see this or I'm I just being critical of this wonderful machine?
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2015, 09:31:25 AM »
I find a lot of things about this GIF to be odd.  I don't understand why it is lit up like a Christmas tree.  But the oddest thing to me is that in the last frames of the photo, the solar panels are nearly perpendicular to the camera, which means the sun is directly behind the Earth, yet the panels do not reflect a flash of light back to the camera. 

RE'ers will claim that the lights are reflections of the sun, yet, they never change as the flying trashcan tumbles around space and the light reflecting off the panels never changes, no matter what angle the panels are. 

I suppose some people are simply very gullible and grainy low quality film is evidence to them, sort of like the people who believe in Big Foot or the Lock Ness Monster.  lol

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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2015, 10:22:08 AM »
To me, this video of the ISS shows it is actually tumbling. The video is looped, so it starts over before it actually completes the tumble. I bet it would tumble if they didn't stop the video. The live stream of ISS shows it perfectly straight and level all the time. Does anyone else see this or I'm I just being critical of this wonderful machine?

If the observer were at the center if the Earth looking at the USS it would hold it's orientation, but the observer is on the ground with the ISS passing as close as 100 miles away from him in it's huge >4000 mile radius orbit.  It makes sense that it appears to tilt because it's being seem from different angles.

I find a lot of things about this GIF to be odd.  I don't understand why it is lit up like a Christmas tree.  But the oddest thing to me is that in the last frames of the photo, the solar panels are nearly perpendicular to the camera, which means the sun is directly behind the Earth, yet the panels do not reflect a flash of light back to the camera. 

RE'ers will claim that the lights are reflections of the sun, yet, they never change as the flying trashcan tumbles around space and the light reflecting off the panels never changes, no matter what angle the panels are. 

I suppose some people are simply very gullible and grainy low quality film is evidence to them, sort of like the people who believe in Big Foot or the Lock Ness Monster.  lol

Space ships (and stations) have to be really reflective bacause the Sun is brighter up there without an atmosphere filtering it out and they need to reflect away light to keep the ship or station cool.  That's why it appears so well lit up.  The panels are also not facing towards the observer, they are facing slightly up.

You flat earthers are desperate to find flaws in this gif aren't you?
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2015, 10:32:34 AM »
To me, this video of the ISS shows it is actually tumbling. The video is looped, so it starts over before it actually completes the tumble. I bet it would tumble if they didn't stop the video. The live stream of ISS shows it perfectly straight and level all the time. Does anyone else see this or I'm I just being critical of this wonderful machine?

If the observer were at the center if the Earth looking at the USS it would hold it's orientation, but the observer is on the ground with the ISS passing as close as 100 miles away from him in it's huge >4000 mile radius orbit.  It makes sense that it appears to tilt because it's being seem from different angles.

I find a lot of things about this GIF to be odd.  I don't understand why it is lit up like a Christmas tree.  But the oddest thing to me is that in the last frames of the photo, the solar panels are nearly perpendicular to the camera, which means the sun is directly behind the Earth, yet the panels do not reflect a flash of light back to the camera. 

RE'ers will claim that the lights are reflections of the sun, yet, they never change as the flying trashcan tumbles around space and the light reflecting off the panels never changes, no matter what angle the panels are. 

I suppose some people are simply very gullible and grainy low quality film is evidence to them, sort of like the people who believe in Big Foot or the Lock Ness Monster.  lol

Space ships (and stations) have to be really reflective bacause the Sun is brighter up there without an atmosphere filtering it out and they need to reflect away light to keep the ship or station cool.  That's why it appears so well lit up.  The panels are also not facing towards the observer, they are facing slightly up.

You flat earthers are desperate to find flaws in this gif aren't you?

You can't call us casual observers and how do you know where the sun is in this gif?
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2015, 10:41:38 AM »
You can't call us casual observers and how do you know where the sun is in this gif?

I know where the Sun is because that's where the solar panels generally point.
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2015, 11:51:28 AM »
You can't call us casual observers and how do you know where the sun is in this gif?

I know where the Sun is because that's where the solar panels generally point.

It looks to me the panels are moving all over the place. They can't capture much sun like that.
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Re: Amateur photo of ISS like you've never seen before
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2015, 12:08:56 PM »
You can't call us casual observers and how do you know where the sun is in this gif?

I know where the Sun is because that's where the solar panels generally point.

It looks to me the panels are moving all over the place. They can't capture much sun like that.
If the individual photos were captured while the ISS was on the night side of the earth, then the solar panels aren't going to capture much sun regardless of which way they point.
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