Does Anyone Find it Suspect There Is No HD Live Video Of The Entire Globe?

Perhaps a quick browse though this list Papa?

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/experiments/experiments_by_name.html

Mikeman, Protip for arguing with Papa Legba:

When reading the words he has written, instead of using the regular inner voice that you are familiar with, try using the voice of an annoying little kid. One that might say, "I know you are but what am I?" This voice should resonate with the actual mental age of Papa Legba and is much less debate-enticing.

I hear him as Eddie Haskell.

Perhaps a quick browse though this list Papa?

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/experiments/experiments_by_name.html

Actually, I think that this one is a little better.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/experiments/experiments_by_expedition.html

But, then again, it seems that once he gets his hooks into something, he doesn't want to let it go, no matter what.

LOL!!!

Telescopes again!

Stop wasting my time, Liar; a telescope will give me no altitude data on your silly fake ISS, thus proving NOTHING.

Will you now tell me to buy a powerful Radar set, lying retard?

You know it's speed because you can observe it going around the world once every 40 minutes and knowing that you can calculate it's altitude given the speed it appears to move.

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 25, 2015, 10:28:44 PM

LOL!!!

Telescopes again!

Stop wasting my time, Liar; a telescope will give me no altitude data on your silly fake ISS, thus proving NOTHING.

Will you now tell me to buy a powerful Radar set, lying retard?

You know it's speed because you can observe it going around the world once every 40 minutes and knowing that you can calculate it's altitude given the speed it appears to move.

Oh, so you have a magic formula to calculate speed based on frequency now?  Maybe you can share this with the rest of us? 

Oh, so you have a magic formula to calculate speed based on frequency now?  Maybe you can share this with the rest of us?

Imagine you are on a one mile long race track watching a car go around.  It keeps passing by you over and over, and if it passes by once per minute then you know that the car is going 60 miles per hour.  Knowing that, if you measured how fast the car passed a cross your field of view when it's close to you then you can calculate your distance from the race track.

Same goes for the ISS.  You can calculate it's speed and altitude with information that we can easily obtain.

Quote from: mikeman7918 on August 26, 2015, 08:37:44 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 25, 2015, 10:28:44 PM

LOL!!!

Telescopes again!

Stop wasting my time, Liar; a telescope will give me no altitude data on your silly fake ISS, thus proving NOTHING.

Will you now tell me to buy a powerful Radar set, lying retard?

You know it's speed because you can observe it going around the world once every 40 minutes and knowing that you can calculate it's altitude given the speed it appears to move.

Oh, so you have a magic formula to calculate speed based on frequency now?  Maybe you can share this with the rest of us?

You mean:

Velocity = distance x frequency

That magic yet very simple formula....?

Velocity = distance x frequency

You f**king idiot; my point is, that if the DISTANCE is incorrect, then the VELOCITY will be incorrect.

& as a telescope can NOT tell me the DISTANCE, then I can NOT know whether what I am looking at is truly flying at the claimed altitude of the ISS or is a SLOWER object flying at a LOWER distance.

Like a pimped-out spy-plane, for example...

Wtf is WRONG with you, retard?

Oh; I forgot - you're a Troll!

So STFU.

& LOL!!!

You halfwit Papa.

I am referring to the example Mikeman gave that if you know that the ISS takes 60 minutes to compete one orbit then you can calculate its velocity given that we know the circumference of said orbit.

Or for a simple example, if Mo Farah takes 1 min to run one 400m lap then you can calculate his velocity.

Only if you know for sure he's running a 400 metre lap, cretin...

So, as we have no way of knowing the Altitude of the light-in-the-sky you claim is the ISS, we have no way of knowing its Velocity.

Simple stuff; unless you're a troll or a shill or a liar or a criminal or even all three.

Ergo: LOL!!!

Now plead for me to be banned again, Losing Lying Loser Liar...

Cos that's LOL too!!!

Only if you know for sure he's running a 400 metre lap, cretin...

So, as we have no way of knowing the Altitude of the light-in-the-sky you claim is the ISS, we have no way of knowing its Velocity.

Simple stuff; unless you're a troll or a shill or a liar or a criminal or even all three.

Ergo: LOL!!!

Now plead for me to be banned again, Losing Lying Loser Liar...

Cos that's LOL too!!!

When we know the speed of the ISS we can calculate how great the air resistance would be for the assumed height. There exist no airplane that could do one lap around the earth in 90 minutes, and no heatshields capable to resist the extreme temperatures that would occour if the ISS was flying in anywhere near dense atmosphere.

When we know the speed of the ISS we can calculate how great the air resistance would be for the assumed height.

You are shameless!

Now; carry on Lying...

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 26, 2015, 02:33:40 PM

When we know the speed of the ISS we can calculate how great the air resistance would be for the assumed height.

You are shameless!

Now; carry on Lying...

If we assumed that it flew at 10 000 meters it would burn up because of air resistance. Also it would fly past our field of view much faster. The ISS has to be high up in order to not burn down. Another thing you can do is to measure roughly the time it takes for ISS to travel 20 degrees along your field of view directly above you. Holding out your hand at arm length and spreading out your thumb and your little finger shows you how much 20 degrees is roughly. Using this information together with the time it takes for the ISS to orbit once around earth in an equation that I will post tomorrow should give you the height of the ISS.

Rubbish; if it were flying far lower than claimed it would then also be flying far slower than claimed.

Your thinking is horribly flawed.

Plus, you have not addressed my alternative hypothesis that it could be a trackable n.e.o.

Whatever; provide your 'equations', idiot liar; it'll be a good example of how maths, when based on false premises, prove nothing.

Rubbish; if it were flying far lower than claimed it would then also be flying far slower than claimed.

Your thinking is horribly flawed.

Plus, you have not addressed my alternative hypothesis that it could be a trackable n.e.o.

Whatever; provide your 'equations', idiot liar; it'll be a good example of how maths, when based on false premises, prove nothing.

If it were flying low it would pass by 20° of your FOV very quickly, if it was high up it would take some time.

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 26, 2015, 10:26:01 PM

Rubbish; if it were flying far lower than claimed it would then also be flying far slower than claimed.

Your thinking is horribly flawed.

Plus, you have not addressed my alternative hypothesis that it could be a trackable n.e.o.

Whatever; provide your 'equations', idiot liar; it'll be a good example of how maths, when based on false premises, prove nothing.

If it were flying low it would pass by 20° of your FOV very quickly, if it was high up it would take some time.

Perhaps you don't understand what scaling the speed to the altitude means, or perhaps you are simply trying to distract, derail, and disturb the conversation again, shill?

Rubbish; if it were flying far lower than claimed it would then also be flying far slower than claimed.

Exactaly.  If the ISS were not in space then it wouldn't be going 17,000 miles per hour and it wouldn't go around the world every 40 minutes.  We see it going around the would every 40 minutes though, so we know that it's orbiting the Earth.

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 26, 2015, 10:26:01 PM

Rubbish; if it were flying far lower than claimed it would then also be flying far slower than claimed.

Exactaly.  If the ISS were not in space then it wouldn't be going 17,000 miles per hour and it wouldn't go around the world every 40 minutes.  We see it going around the would every 40 minutes though, so we know that it's orbiting the Earth.

Every 90 minutes. 40 minutes is the length of daytime per orbital revolution on the ISS.

Quote from: mikeman7918 on August 27, 2015, 08:34:48 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 26, 2015, 10:26:01 PM

Rubbish; if it were flying far lower than claimed it would then also be flying far slower than claimed.

Exactaly.  If the ISS were not in space then it wouldn't be going 17,000 miles per hour and it wouldn't go around the world every 40 minutes.  We see it going around the would every 40 minutes though, so we know that it's orbiting the Earth.

Every 90 minutes. 40 minutes is the length of daytime per orbital revolution on the ISS.

And yet, it can only be seen once or twice per month for a minute or two. 

And yet, it can only be seen once or twice per month for a minute or two. 

If you had a friend that is a few hundred miles east or west of you it would be easy to calculate it's speed.

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 27, 2015, 08:48:26 AM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on August 27, 2015, 08:34:48 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 26, 2015, 10:26:01 PM

Rubbish; if it were flying far lower than claimed it would then also be flying far slower than claimed.

Exactaly.  If the ISS were not in space then it wouldn't be going 17,000 miles per hour and it wouldn't go around the world every 40 minutes.  We see it going around the would every 40 minutes though, so we know that it's orbiting the Earth.

Every 90 minutes. 40 minutes is the length of daytime per orbital revolution on the ISS.

And yet, it can only be seen once or twice per month for a minute or two. 

Yes, because of its orbital inclination and rotation of the earth.  I know, those a alien concepts to FE'ers.

Quote from: jroa on August 27, 2015, 08:56:05 AM

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 27, 2015, 08:48:26 AM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on August 27, 2015, 08:34:48 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 26, 2015, 10:26:01 PM

Rubbish; if it were flying far lower than claimed it would then also be flying far slower than claimed.

Exactaly.  If the ISS were not in space then it wouldn't be going 17,000 miles per hour and it wouldn't go around the world every 40 minutes.  We see it going around the would every 40 minutes though, so we know that it's orbiting the Earth.

Every 90 minutes. 40 minutes is the length of daytime per orbital revolution on the ISS.

And yet, it can only be seen once or twice per month for a minute or two. 

Yes, because of its orbital inclination and rotation of the earth.  I know, those a alien concepts to FE'ers.

mikeman claimed that it can be seen going around the Earth every 40 minutes.  Do you ever think, markjo, is it more fun to walk around with blinders on? 

mikeman claimed that it can be seen going around the Earth every 40 minutes.  Do you ever think, markjo, is it more fun to walk around with blinders on?

If you have the right latitude you can see the ISS fly by a few times in a row every 90 minutes (I was mistaken saying 40 minutes) without moving or having the help of friends.

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 27, 2015, 08:48:26 AM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on August 27, 2015, 08:34:48 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 26, 2015, 10:26:01 PM

Rubbish; if it were flying far lower than claimed it would then also be flying far slower than claimed.

Exactaly.  If the ISS were not in space then it wouldn't be going 17,000 miles per hour and it wouldn't go around the world every 40 minutes.  We see it going around the would every 40 minutes though, so we know that it's orbiting the Earth.

Every 90 minutes. 40 minutes is the length of daytime per orbital revolution on the ISS.

And yet, it can only be seen once or twice per month for a minute or two. 

The ISS passes above the horizon several times a day if you're within about 60° of the equator. With the right equipment you can see it during the day, but you also need to know what you're doing, so that is unlikely to interest you.

You can see it with your naked eye only those times when it's above your horizon after the sun has set or before it rises (so the sky is dark) but while the ISS is not in the shadow of the Earth (so it's sunlit); this is typically within a couple of hours after sunset or before sunrise, so it doesn't happen every day time, but is often more than a couple times a month; sometimes it's a couple times the same day. Some of these visible passes are before dawn, so you probably wouldn't be interested in those, either.

Favorable passes can last longer than 6 minutes.

Quote from: markjo on August 27, 2015, 09:38:58 AM

Quote from: jroa on August 27, 2015, 08:56:05 AM

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 27, 2015, 08:48:26 AM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on August 27, 2015, 08:34:48 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 26, 2015, 10:26:01 PM

Rubbish; if it were flying far lower than claimed it would then also be flying far slower than claimed.

Exactaly.  If the ISS were not in space then it wouldn't be going 17,000 miles per hour and it wouldn't go around the world every 40 minutes.  We see it going around the would every 40 minutes though, so we know that it's orbiting the Earth.

Every 90 minutes. 40 minutes is the length of daytime per orbital revolution on the ISS.

And yet, it can only be seen once or twice per month for a minute or two. 

Yes, because of its orbital inclination and rotation of the earth.  I know, those a alien concepts to FE'ers.

mikeman claimed that it can be seen going around the Earth every 40 minutes. 

Yes, mikeman has been know to mix up some of his facts from time to time.

Do you ever think, markjo, is it more fun to walk around with blinders on?

Obviously you seem to.

So; still no rebuttal to my hypothesis that the ISS is simply a trackable n.e.o.?

Interesting; seems that may be more likely than it being a pimped-up high-altitude plane then.

Thanks, shills; you are SO useful!

So; still no rebuttal to my hypothesis that the ISS is simply a trackable n.e.o.?

Interesting; seems that may be more likely than it being a pimped-up high-altitude plane then.

Thanks, shills; you are SO useful!

So you think it's a high altitude plane which flies in space at orbital velocity and looks like a station?

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 27, 2015, 08:48:26 AM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on August 27, 2015, 08:34:48 AM

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 26, 2015, 10:26:01 PM

Rubbish; if it were flying far lower than claimed it would then also be flying far slower than claimed.

Exactaly.  If the ISS were not in space then it wouldn't be going 17,000 miles per hour and it wouldn't go around the world every 40 minutes.  We see it going around the would every 40 minutes though, so we know that it's orbiting the Earth.

Every 90 minutes. 40 minutes is the length of daytime per orbital revolution on the ISS.

And yet, it can only be seen once or twice per month for a minute or two. 

You forgot to add from any single location to your post. Without it, your statement is simply incorrect.

So; still no rebuttal to my hypothesis that the ISS is simply a trackable n.e.o.?

Duh! 

Of course the ISS is a n.e.o. 

We've been telling you that all along. 

We just prefer to use the term satellite or space station. 

You're the one who refuses to actually look at the ISS n.e.o. through a telescope in order to get a better look at it.

LOL!!

Of course the ISS is a n.e.o. 

Truth hidden in plain sight...

Are you growing a Conscience, markjo?