Apparently Light=Sound now

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #660 on: August 30, 2015, 09:59:14 AM »
experiments can't lie to you.

LOL!!!

The INTERPRETATION of an experiment can be a LIE, now-18-years-old-but-still-a-sock-puppet-retard mikeman.

What is so hard to understand about that?

Actually your interpretation cannot lie.  It can be wrong, but lies imply an intent to decieve.  If you can figure out how a single photon can go through two slits at the same time without being in two places at once then I am all ears.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #661 on: August 30, 2015, 12:15:56 PM »

First of all, the points regarding its "philosophical, moral and spiritual implications" were just stupid shit like "Oh, Feynman said something that I think is an empedoclean paradox, therefore QM is false".

LOL!!!

No they weren't, Liar...

But like I said; you simply WILL NOT address these points directly.


Second, now that I see that your true intention is to troll, I'm not going to explain and justify QM to you.

Because you CAN'T.

You already tried & made a complete ass of yourself, remember?


Fuck you.

Call the Waaambulance!

If you really cared,

I do NOT.

I wouldn't have to spoon feed you everything. You can argue against something that you don't even understand all you want. You just have to know that no one will believe you.

LOL!!! That Waaambulance better hurry up..!

& who uses the phrase 'spoon feed' all the time?

Oh, I know; it's markjo & every single shill sock-puppet on this site, all the time...

Check your vocabulary, criminals.

LMFAO - at blatantly obvious YOU!!!


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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #662 on: August 30, 2015, 12:41:40 PM »

First of all, the points regarding its "philosophical, moral and spiritual implications" were just stupid shit like "Oh, Feynman said something that I think is an empedoclean paradox, therefore QM is false".

LOL!!!

No they weren't, Liar...

But like I said; you simply WILL NOT address these points directly.


Second, now that I see that your true intention is to troll, I'm not going to explain and justify QM to you.

Because you CAN'T.

You already tried & made a complete ass of yourself, remember?


Fuck you.

Call the Waaambulance!

If you really cared,

I do NOT.

I wouldn't have to spoon feed you everything. You can argue against something that you don't even understand all you want. You just have to know that no one will believe you.

LOL!!! That Waaambulance better hurry up..!

& who uses the phrase 'spoon feed' all the time?

Oh, I know; it's markjo & every single shill sock-puppet on this site, all the time...

Check your vocabulary, criminals.

LMFAO - at blatantly obvious YOU!!!


True story, bro...

You made a total fool of yourself. First of all, I almost never use the word "spoon feed". Is it a forbidden word or something, troll? What about the phrase "true story, bro"? Check your vocabulary, troll. Wait. You still think I am markjo? Fucking hell... Can you get any dumber? It will be interesting to observe to say the least.

Second, I can explain QM, but I'm not going to do it. It's hard to do it, it takes up time, and I'm not your servant. If you were a decent person, you would have done your research before all of your bullshit. Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_quantum_mechanics
and then read this book: http://www.amazon.com/QED-Strange-Princeton-Science-Library/dp/0691164096/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440963438&sr=8-1&keywords=qed that explains quantum electrodynamics in simple terms. Then we talk.

Third, can you restate those "points"? Because all I see is that bullshit about the empedoclean paradox. Maybe I missed them. Just copy and paste them and I will address them.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #663 on: August 30, 2015, 12:54:58 PM »
You just said 'spoon feed' again. liar.

Same as you lied when you said you'd ignore me about a million posts ago, then didn't.

A lot.

& I know plenty enough about Q.M. already, thanks, spammer, so STFU about it.

& if you want to know my points about the moral implications of Q.M. then go find them; I'm not here to spoon feed you, Troll...

Lastly; you wrote the utter garbage below, so are a proven retard with no credibility whatsoever & are just a toy for me to play with:


Light is essentially made up from particles called photons. Those particles are NOT matter in the common sense of the word and they do not have mass. They are like little packets of energy. They follow a wave of probability, which means that they are much more likely to end up in the peaks of an imaginary wave (for reasons that are too complicated to explain easily). That wave can, of course, interfere with itself, etc. It is NOT transmitted through air or anything physical. All that makes light appear to move like a wave, although it isn't actually one.


LOL!!!

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #664 on: August 30, 2015, 12:59:11 PM »
You just said 'spoon feed' again. liar.

Same as you lied when you said you'd ignore me about a million posts ago, then didn't.

A lot.

& I know plenty enough about Q.M. already, thanks, spammer, so STFU about it.

& if you want to know my points about the moral implications of Q.M. then go find them; I'm not here to spoon feed you, Troll...

Lastly; you wrote the utter garbage below, so are a proven retard with no credibility whatsoever & are just a toy for me to play with:


Light is essentially made up from particles called photons. Those particles are NOT matter in the common sense of the word and they do not have mass. They are like little packets of energy. They follow a wave of probability, which means that they are much more likely to end up in the peaks of an imaginary wave (for reasons that are too complicated to explain easily). That wave can, of course, interfere with itself, etc. It is NOT transmitted through air or anything physical. All that makes light appear to move like a wave, although it isn't actually one.


LOL!!!

True story, bro...

Uh, no... No you don't know anything at all about QM... If you did, you wouldn't ask all those stupid questions.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #665 on: August 30, 2015, 01:02:45 PM »
LOL!!!

Now THIS is STUPID:


Light is essentially made up from particles called photons. Those particles are NOT matter in the common sense of the word and they do not have mass. They are like little packets of energy. They follow a wave of probability, which means that they are much more likely to end up in the peaks of an imaginary wave (for reasons that are too complicated to explain easily). That wave can, of course, interfere with itself, etc. It is NOT transmitted through air or anything physical. All that makes light appear to move like a wave, although it isn't actually one.


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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #666 on: August 30, 2015, 01:17:30 PM »
LOL!!!

Now THIS is STUPID:


Light is essentially made up from particles called photons. Those particles are NOT matter in the common sense of the word and they do not have mass. They are like little packets of energy. They follow a wave of probability, which means that they are much more likely to end up in the peaks of an imaginary wave (for reasons that are too complicated to explain easily). That wave can, of course, interfere with itself, etc. It is NOT transmitted through air or anything physical. All that makes light appear to move like a wave, although it isn't actually one.


True story, bro...

Hey guys! A flat earth troll! Do you want to hear what sound it makes when it's cornered?

"STFU I KNOW EVERYTHING I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT EVERYTHING I DON'T NEED TO LEARN ANYTHING NEW I KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO QM LMFAO YOU ARE STUPID!!!"

Now IF you knew ANYTHING about quantum electrodynamics you would know why it is NOT stupid. But you don't. So, since you DO know about it, how about you explain it to us, dumb people?

Wanna hear the sound he will make after that?

"LOLOLOL QM AND QED IS FAKE AND GAY!!! I DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN ANYTHING!!!

Now I went through the excruciating task that lowered my IQ by a factor of 10 (and just because Legba is so predictable, I predict that what went through his head while reading this sentence was "Oh great, I'm gonna find a dumb immature wordplay with Definitely Not Official's username, then say that he actually is markjo, and then say that if his IQ dropped by a factor of ten, it must be subzero now!!! Great!!! I'm so smart!!!") to read all of the posts you made in the last 10 pages. Yeah... Well... As I said, you didn't do much else other than obsess over Empedoclean paradoxes and strange loops which were all based on the misinterpretation of a quote by Feynman, so I really don't see anything to address here.

So, do you have anything else to say other than abbreviations, calling me stupid and leaving gaps everywhere that make your posts take up a ton of space with little to no substance? You really are a waste of space. And megabytes.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #667 on: August 30, 2015, 02:09:59 PM »
I think Legba decided to shut up after all.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #668 on: August 30, 2015, 03:39:15 PM »
No, he is too stupid. He will just keep spouting crap.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #669 on: August 30, 2015, 11:09:37 PM »
No, he is too stupid. He will just keep spouting crap.

LOL!!!

You mean crap like this:


Light is essentially made up from particles called photons. Those particles are NOT matter in the common sense of the word and they do not have mass. They are like little packets of energy. They follow a wave of probability, which means that they are much more likely to end up in the peaks of an imaginary wave (for reasons that are too complicated to explain easily). That wave can, of course, interfere with itself, etc. It is NOT transmitted through air or anything physical. All that makes light appear to move like a wave, although it isn't actually one.


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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #670 on: August 31, 2015, 12:23:17 AM »
Or perhaps you mean crap - quite literally so -  like this?

A cat (electron) has to go to take a dump (lowers its energy state) whenever it eats a bowl of Friskies (when it eats the Friskies it jumps up an energy state). It owner is a sumo fighter, and whenever he gets in the house for reasons that I'm not going to explain because it's too complicated, waves form in the floor. Because he is superstitious, he only places the litter boxes on the peaks of the waves that have been formed on the floor, so the cat randomly picks litter boxes to take a dump in. After some time, the cat litter will be spread in the room as if it was a wave. It's not a wave of cat shit flooding the room though, it's distinct litter boxes. Is that simple enough for you?

LOL!!!

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #671 on: August 31, 2015, 12:36:02 AM »
No, he is too stupid. He will just keep spouting crap.

LOL!!!

You mean crap like this:


Light is essentially made up from particles called photons. Those particles are NOT matter in the common sense of the word and they do not have mass. They are like little packets of energy. They follow a wave of probability, which means that they are much more likely to end up in the peaks of an imaginary wave (for reasons that are too complicated to explain easily). That wave can, of course, interfere with itself, etc. It is NOT transmitted through air or anything physical. All that makes light appear to move like a wave, although it isn't actually one.


True story, bro...

Ah, I see that you decided to continue your strange loop of saying the same crap over and over again without proving anything. Nice.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #672 on: August 31, 2015, 12:59:06 AM »

Light is essentially made up from particles called photons. Those particles are NOT matter in the common sense of the word and they do not have mass. They are like little packets of energy. They follow a wave of probability, which means that they are much more likely to end up in the peaks of an imaginary wave (for reasons that are too complicated to explain easily). That wave can, of course, interfere with itself, etc. It is NOT transmitted through air or anything physical. All that makes light appear to move like a wave, although it isn't actually one.



A cat (electron) has to go to take a dump (lowers its energy state) whenever it eats a bowl of Friskies (when it eats the Friskies it jumps up an energy state). It owner is a sumo fighter, and whenever he gets in the house for reasons that I'm not going to explain because it's too complicated, waves form in the floor. Because he is superstitious, he only places the litter boxes on the peaks of the waves that have been formed on the floor, so the cat randomly picks litter boxes to take a dump in. After some time, the cat litter will be spread in the room as if it was a wave. It's not a wave of cat shit flooding the room though, it's distinct litter boxes. Is that simple enough for you?

See the 2 parts of your gibberish I highlighted, nut-job?

Please DO explain them; cos you clearly think you understand Q.M...

I'll get me popcorn.

Oh, & P.S; what I have been doing is NOT a strange loop, Liar (neutrals; google strange loops to find out more).

YOU have been repeatedly telling us how much more smart than us you are, so I have been posting the pseudo-scientific garbage you spammed to show that you are a LIAR.

Unlike a true strange loop, this can be ended by you acknowledging the Truth that what you wrote makes no sense whatsoever & that you are Not as smart as you think you are...

Now; carry on Lying...
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #673 on: August 31, 2015, 02:16:32 AM »

Light is essentially made up from particles called photons. Those particles are NOT matter in the common sense of the word and they do not have mass. They are like little packets of energy. They follow a wave of probability, which means that they are much more likely to end up in the peaks of an imaginary wave (for reasons that are too complicated to explain easily). That wave can, of course, interfere with itself, etc. It is NOT transmitted through air or anything physical. All that makes light appear to move like a wave, although it isn't actually one.



A cat (electron) has to go to take a dump (lowers its energy state) whenever it eats a bowl of Friskies (when it eats the Friskies it jumps up an energy state). It owner is a sumo fighter, and whenever he gets in the house for reasons that I'm not going to explain because it's too complicated, waves form in the floor. Because he is superstitious, he only places the litter boxes on the peaks of the waves that have been formed on the floor, so the cat randomly picks litter boxes to take a dump in. After some time, the cat litter will be spread in the room as if it was a wave. It's not a wave of cat shit flooding the room though, it's distinct litter boxes. Is that simple enough for you?

See the 2 parts of your gibberish I highlighted, nut-job?

Please DO explain them; cos you clearly think you understand Q.M...

I'll get me popcorn.

Oh, & P.S; what I have been doing istoT a strange loop, Liar (neutrals; google strange loops to find out more).

YOU have been repeatedly telling us how much more smart than us you are, so I have been posting the pseudo-scientific garbage you spammed to show that you are a LIAR.

Unlike a true strange loop, this can be ended by you acknowledging the Truth that what you wrote makes no sense whatsoever & that you are Not as smart as you think you are...

Now; carry on Lying...

It is a strange loop. You've gone full on loop mode, and I find it really strange that you can be so stupid.

The answer is no. No, I'm not gonna explain to you QM or QED. It's not very easy, and I'm not going to do it. Besides, you say that you already know everything you can know about it, so why don't YOU explain it to us?

Or else, just take your pseudo science, stick it up your ass, and go back to your fantasy world where you are a genius who reinvented science, take sceptimatic with you, and never bother us again. If you think that you can just say that QM is nonsense without even understanding it or even providing a single piece of evidence or proof that even remotely makes sense and expect anyone except of sceptimatic to take you seriously, then you are mistaken.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #674 on: August 31, 2015, 02:52:24 AM »
or even providing a single piece of evidence or proof that even remotely makes sense...

LOL!!!

That 'makes sense' like this, you mean?


Light is essentially made up from particles called photons. Those particles are NOT matter in the common sense of the word and they do not have mass. They are like little packets of energy. They follow a wave of probability, which means that they are much more likely to end up in the peaks of an imaginary wave (for reasons that are too complicated to explain easily). That wave can, of course, interfere with itself, etc. It is NOT transmitted through air or anything physical. All that makes light appear to move like a wave, although it isn't actually one.


Or, even better, 'makes sense' like this?

A cat (electron) has to go to take a dump (lowers its energy state) whenever it eats a bowl of Friskies (when it eats the Friskies it jumps up an energy state). It owner is a sumo fighter, and whenever he gets in the house for reasons that I'm not going to explain because it's too complicated, waves form in the floor. Because he is superstitious, he only places the litter boxes on the peaks of the waves that have been formed on the floor, so the cat randomly picks litter boxes to take a dump in. After some time, the cat litter will be spread in the room as if it was a wave. It's not a wave of cat shit flooding the room though, it's distinct litter boxes. Is that simple enough for you?

LMFAO!!!

That Waaaambulance never arrived did it?

The real reason you WON'T explain Q.M. is because you CAN'T explain Q.M, isn't it, Liar?

Because you have simply NO idea what you are babbling on about, do you?

Now f**k off back to trolling the youtube comments section where you belong, Lying Liar; cos your pompous, foot-stamping holier-than-thou bullshit will NOT work on me.

ROFLMFAO - at your sorry-ass, whining & humiliated self!!!
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #675 on: August 31, 2015, 05:26:43 AM »
Lol
You think we will do what you want.

Lol
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #676 on: August 31, 2015, 05:34:36 AM »
The only thing I want you to do is keep posting nonsense that I can poke fun at...

So no, I don't 'think' you will do what I want; I know that you will do what I want.

Like you just did now, in fact.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #677 on: August 31, 2015, 06:06:08 AM »
Lol
You think we will do what you want.

Lol

Shhhh...   don't let him know we are all trolling him,  and he bites every time.    It's beautiful to watch   ROTFLMAO!!    What makes it funnier, is he thinks it's the reverse.   Hilarious.

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #678 on: August 31, 2015, 09:01:39 AM »
The only thing I want you to do is keep posting nonsense that I can poke fun at...

So no, I don't 'think' you will do what I want; I know that you will do what I want.

Like you just did now, in fact.

Of course, troll boy. Whatever you say. Also, you seem to love the word "Waaambulance". Did you hear a preschooler say it, and you thought it was cool, so now you just want to keep repeating it over and over again?The answer, however, is no, I'm not going to explain anything to you. I can, but I won't. I'm not buying it, you're the one who's playing my game, not the other way round. If you want to talk seriously, do your research first, and come back to me with a detailed, clear and scientifically sound proof that QM is nonsense.

Until then, you can continue the strange loop of your idiocy. It's rather entertaining.

PS: The way you present it, the empedoclean paradox isn't a paradox at all. It's only a paradox if you initially consider that he is saying the truth. If he's lying, then there is no loop to begin with, because... Well... Just because he is lying, it doesn't mean that all Cretans lie.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #679 on: August 31, 2015, 10:33:50 AM »
Three points.

One, paradoxes like "Everything I say is a lie," are entertaining, but flawed. The clear resolution is, as has been said, to conclude that they are lying. It would not follow that everything they say is a truth, however. Better, would be "This statement is a lie."

Two, quantum mechanics are incomplete in this time. This does make them harder to interpret: however, the direct observations cannot be questioned. Further, they are always going to be incredibly complex to explain. They are hard to imagine, and very little behaves similarly on the scales we're used to. The fact that your time has not yet reconciled them with macro knowledge makes it all the harder. However, as with all science, it is impossible to explain to someone who does not want to learn, as it sounds like this Papa Legbe is.

Third, on light and sound, they are quite intimately related. Waves are not composed of a substance, so the only way to tell the difference between two kinds of waves is to examine wavelength, freqency, and medium. The former two could be made equivalent between a sound and a light, so we are left with medium, and this is important.
Two waves may be identical, but what carries them? Sound is transmitted by physical matter: it manifests as vibrations in solids, liquids, gases, and other such states. Light does not require a material medium, however. This is the crucial difference, and for that reason its properties are very different. The waves of light are carried by the field of dimensions that everything exists in. They move through space, because of space. (This is why the speed of light is such a limit: light itself is defined by the spacetime dimensions it exists and moves in).
It's a few years before technology advances to the point that this can be proven (it's possible to change the medium of a wave from matter to space, and vice versa, turning light to and from sound) so it's fine if you don't accept my word, I just thought you'd find it interesting.
The speed of sound varies with medium. The speed of light is simply what that speed is, when the medium is space. As, on a quantum level, we are made up of similar wavelengths, if any matter tries to reach the speed of light, we would observe some very odd behavior indeed because part of what defines light is that it has quantum mass. For a non-quantum mass to move at those speeds through the mediums of space and time, spacetime would bend and stretch as a result.

This is very hard to explain, and harder still to visualize. I am sorry.

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #680 on: August 31, 2015, 10:56:43 AM »
Three points.

One, paradoxes like "Everything I say is a lie," are entertaining, but flawed. The clear resolution is, as has been said, to conclude that they are lying. It would not follow that everything they say is a truth, however. Better, would be "This statement is a lie."

Two, quantum mechanics are incomplete in this time. This does make them harder to interpret: however, the direct observations cannot be questioned. Further, they are always going to be incredibly complex to explain. They are hard to imagine, and very little behaves similarly on the scales we're used to. The fact that your time has not yet reconciled them with macro knowledge makes it all the harder. However, as with all science, it is impossible to explain to someone who does not want to learn, as it sounds like this Papa Legbe is.

Third, on light and sound, they are quite intimately related. Waves are not composed of a substance, so the only way to tell the difference between two kinds of waves is to examine wavelength, freqency, and medium. The former two could be made equivalent between a sound and a light, so we are left with medium, and this is important.
Two waves may be identical, but what carries them? Sound is transmitted by physical matter: it manifests as vibrations in solids, liquids, gases, and other such states. Light does not require a material medium, however. This is the crucial difference, and for that reason its properties are very different. The waves of light are carried by the field of dimensions that everything exists in. They move through space, because of space. (This is why the speed of light is such a limit: light itself is defined by the spacetime dimensions it exists and moves in).
It's a few years before technology advances to the point that this can be proven (it's possible to change the medium of a wave from matter to space, and vice versa, turning light to and from sound) so it's fine if you don't accept my word, I just thought you'd find it interesting.
The speed of sound varies with medium. The speed of light is simply what that speed is, when the medium is space. As, on a quantum level, we are made up of similar wavelengths, if any matter tries to reach the speed of light, we would observe some very odd behavior indeed because part of what defines light is that it has quantum mass. For a non-quantum mass to move at those speeds through the mediums of space and time, spacetime would bend and stretch as a result.

This is very hard to explain, and harder still to visualize. I am sorry.

I don't think you should bother explaining all that to him. I have already tried, and he ignored me. At this point, it's clear that he has no interest in learning. He simply wants to troll, so we kinda troll him back and laugh at him.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #681 on: August 31, 2015, 11:04:57 AM »
I don't think you should bother explaining all that to him. I have already tried, and he ignored me. At this point, it's clear that he has no interest in learning. He simply wants to troll, so we kinda troll him back and laugh at him.

I am aware. I was explaining for the benefit of everyone else, as much as anyone.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #682 on: August 31, 2015, 11:35:25 AM »
I don't think you should bother explaining all that to him. I have already tried, and he ignored me. At this point, it's clear that he has no interest in learning. He simply wants to troll, so we kinda troll him back and laugh at him.

I am aware. I was explaining for the benefit of everyone else, as much as anyone.
teaching requires a listener as well as a teacher. You could have all the knowledge in the world, but if they will not listen, it does not matter.

Fair enough.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #683 on: August 31, 2015, 11:37:17 AM »

The answer, however, is no, I'm not going to explain anything to you. I can, but I won't.

LOL!!!

Liar.


The way you present it, the empedoclean paradox isn't a paradox at all. It's only a paradox if you initially consider that he is saying the truth. If he's lying, then there is no loop to begin with, because... Well... Just because he is lying, it doesn't mean that all Cretans lie.

LOL!!!

You understand neither Empedocle's Paradox nor Logic, do you?

No surprise there, as you DO think you understand Q.M...

Though you conveniently skim over the genuinely tricky bits every time, then try to blame your incompetence on me, somehow...

& just listen to yourself, dingus; calling ME a troll then having an earnest conversation with some tit who claims to be a time-traveller from the f**king future...

You DICK!


Oh, & rayzor/evil edna/psyopticon/etc: YOU WISH!!!
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #684 on: August 31, 2015, 11:54:23 AM »

The answer, however, is no, I'm not going to explain anything to you. I can, but I won't.

LOL!!!

Liar.


The way you present it, the empedoclean paradox isn't a paradox at all. It's only a paradox if you initially consider that he is saying the truth. If he's lying, then there is no loop to begin with, because... Well... Just because he is lying, it doesn't mean that all Cretans lie.

LOL!!!

You understand neither Empedocle's Paradox nor Logic, do you?

No surprise there, as you DO think you understand Q.M...

Though you conveniently skim over the genuinely tricky bits every time, then try to blame your incompetence on me, somehow...

& just listen to yourself, dingus; calling ME a troll then having an earnest conversation with some tit who claims to be a time-traveller from the f**king future...

You DICK!


Oh, & rayzor/evil edna/psyopticon/etc: YOU WISH!!!

Uh... What? Your comments keep getting funnier and more non sensical! WTF is that shit about a time traveler?

Now I see that you say that I don't understand the empedoclean paradox. Sorry dude, but the way you present it, it's not a paradox. He simply can't say the truth. I don't know how you are unable to see that. You either suppose in the beginning that he is right, so you deduce that if he's right, and he's a Cretan as well, that means he's lying, but you enter a loop, as you said, or you just assume that he is lying and there is no loop at all.

And I'm not going to get caught on your fly trap. I've already given you two resources where you can get introduced to the concepts and justification of QM and QED. After you read them, and also do some more research on QM and QED, come back with proof that it's wrong. Until then, keep entertaining us!
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #685 on: August 31, 2015, 12:03:11 PM »
WTF is that shit about a time traveler?

Do you honestly not realise that 'John Titor' claims to be a time-traveller from the future?

LOL!!!

You DICK.

 or you just assume that he is lying and there is no loop at all.

LOL!!!

There is no place for assumptions in Logic; which is why you are so bad at it...

You DICK.


 After you read them, and also do some more research on QM and QED, come back with proof that it's wrong.

I already told you; I know plenty about Q.M; now either explain the 'complicated' bits or STFU.

You DICK.

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #686 on: August 31, 2015, 12:18:30 PM »
Do you honestly not realise that 'John Titor' claims to be a time-traveller from the future?

I am from the future, but that's not relevant here, so I didn't bring it up. A little of what I said won't be proven for a few years, but you're more than welcome to enjoy that.
I could be a sentient sack of peas, it wouldn't alter whether or not what I said was true: and it remains true that it is pointless for you to ask to be educated on anything if you will refuse to learn.

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #687 on: August 31, 2015, 12:43:00 PM »
WTF is that shit about a time traveler?

Do you honestly not realise that 'John Titor' claims to be a time-traveller from the future?

LOL!!!

You DICK.

 or you just assume that he is lying and there is no loop at all.

LOL!!!

There is no place for assumptions in Logic; which is why you are so bad at it...

You DICK.


 After you read them, and also do some more research on QM and QED, come back with proof that it's wrong.

I already told you; I know plenty about Q.M; now either explain the 'complicated' bits or STFU.

You DICK.


First of all, I really don't know if I should trust you, where did he claim that he was a time traveller?

Now if there is no room for assumptions in logic, why did you assume that he is right in the first place? Because in order for enter the loop, you have to first say "OK, assuming that he is right, that and that is the consequence, and it leads us to a strange loop". So, you have 2 choices: 1) assume that he's right and enter a strange loop, or 2) assume that he is lying, and no loops arise. I don't know about you, but, in the real world, when you have 2 equally plausible answers to something, only one causes a strange loop, you obviously pick the other one.

Now a few posts ago you didn't understand what light is, so I doubt that you know anything about QM. And no, I'm not going to explain to him anything. They're not simple theories, so it's hard and time consuming to explain them, I will gain nothing from it, and you clearly don't want to learn. I'm not playing your game. You are trying to force me to do it by telling me "You don't want to explain it because you don't know it!!!". That's a preschooler tactic. I hold you realize that you're behaving like a 5 year old that is screaming "You're not doing it because you're SCAAAAARED!!!".

If you want to be taken seriously, either prove that you know plenty enough about QM by explaining it to us (just like what you are asking me to do), or provide proof that QM is wrong.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #688 on: August 31, 2015, 12:47:02 PM »
Do you honestly not realise that 'John Titor' claims to be a time-traveller from the future?

I am from the future, but that's not relevant here, so I didn't bring it up. A little of what I said won't be proven for a few years, but you're more than welcome to enjoy that.
I could be a sentient sack of peas, it wouldn't alter whether or not what I said was true: and it remains true that it is pointless for you to ask to be educated on anything if you will refuse to learn.

Uh... Now I think that you're kind of an idiot... Can you prove that you're from the future? Also, what is that that you claim will happen in a few years? Because right now, your claim that you are from the future is complete and utter bullshit.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #689 on: August 31, 2015, 01:09:42 PM »
LOL!!!

You are such a loser...

I've talked to professors of theoretical physics about Q.M. & they all had wildly differing opinions on it.

Some were more like mad monks than scientists, but most did not like it one little bit & were hoping & praying for the day when it was replaced by a more classically mechanical & physically provable paradigm.

What's more, none of them were arrogant, condescending know-it-alls like you, Definitely A Dickhead; they knew damn well how shaky the foundations of Q.M. were, as well as the many bizarre logico-philosophical ramifications it implied, & could laugh at how mind-bendingly silly it all was.

They were Okay, in a word; genuinely open-minded men...

& what's more, not one of them avoided the obvious elephant in the room when it comes to Q.M. like you've repeatedly done, Deaf Dick.

& you knows what I'm talking about too, you coward: 'spukhafte Fernwerkung'.

Google it, Deaf Dick; then either explain exactly how it works or f**k off for good.
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