Apparently Light=Sound now

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #570 on: August 25, 2015, 02:43:13 PM »
Can someone get rid of his moderator status already?

Unlikely.

Now; can YOU answer my question about what is the effect on an individual's psyche (or that of society as a whole) of being convinced to go through life believing that all reality is, at heart, an Empedoclean Paradox?

It's kind of important, & very pertinent to the motive behind the whole Quantum Mechanics Hoax...

But everyone's avoiding it; I wonder why that should be?

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So much evidence presented

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #571 on: August 25, 2015, 02:52:45 PM »
Can someone get rid of his moderator status already?

Why?  Do you think I would not post here and point out your lies if I was not a mod?  I posted here for a long time without being a moderator, just to let you know.  Once again, I apologize for pointing out your drug and alcohol problems, as well as your mental handicaps.  I did not do it to tease you.  I was simply trying to determine how we can fairly treat someone who can't debate with normal people.  Let me know if you have any suggestions.  Thanks. 

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #572 on: August 25, 2015, 02:53:30 PM »
LOL!!!

Too late, master_b8r; edited to stop scum-sucking bottom-feeders like you from taking advantage of my good humour.

Empedocles paradox states: 'Empedocles the Cretan said; 'Everything Cretans say is a Lie'.

It is one of the oldest examples of a logical feedback loop, i.e. a statement designed to lead nowhere.

These are also called strange loops.

They are a favourite device of intelligence agencies for messing with the opposition's heads.

Shills, being intelligence operatives, also like using them...

As neutrals may have noticed!

Anyhow; quantum mechanics is a strange loop, designed to confuse, confound & generally f**k with your head, making you believe that Nothing is ultimately knowable & make you live in a fog of ultimate unreason...

A nasty Hoax on you all to be frank.

Moreover, there is no evidence for either.

Unlike the evidence for master_b8r being a sock-puppet criminal shill; which is strong.

Very much so!

LMFAO - at fail-bot YOU!!!

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #573 on: August 25, 2015, 03:27:34 PM »
Can someone get rid of his moderator status already?

Why?  Do you think I would not post here and point out your lies if I was not a mod?  I posted here for a long time without being a moderator, just to let you know.  Once again, I apologize for pointing out your drug and alcohol problems, as well as your mental handicaps.  I did not do it to tease you.  I was simply trying to determine how we can fairly treat someone who can't debate with normal people.  Let me know if you have any suggestions.  Thanks.

Since you are such a good mod, why don't you ban Papa Legba for a while? He never ever brings anything into the argument, and all he does is offend whoever he can, and say random stuff that is completely unrelated with the subject matter.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #574 on: August 25, 2015, 03:51:02 PM »
random stuff

Do you need another lesson on the definition of the word "random"?

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #575 on: August 25, 2015, 04:51:33 PM »
random stuff

Do you need another lesson on the definition of the word "random"?

Maybe you are the one who needs a lesson:



Anyway, you are falling pretty low on the Grahams hierarchy of disagreement:



You have even gone all the way to the bottom a fair few times.  Step up your game.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #576 on: August 25, 2015, 05:37:01 PM »
So u r my bff?  :)

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #577 on: August 25, 2015, 06:48:16 PM »
So u r my bff?  :)

So r u trolling?
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #578 on: August 26, 2015, 03:15:40 AM »
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You see through the jar more clearly because it's less magnified due to expanded matter. You see, if the jar was strong enough to hold compressed air in ridiculous amount of compression, it is then that you see nothing through it.

Makes total sense.Looking at the sea horizon the mountains at the summer time,there is blurring due to compressed matter(air molecules ,sand etc) that block your view.
After a rain event,you can clearly see the mountain in the horizon due to the absence of this compressed matter.
It doesnt matter if we call it compressed air,or compressed matter.It is the density that matters.

You cant see through a windmill ,thats air compressed.
You cant see through a wild  waterfall,thats water in compression.

But what do you mean by ''its less magnified''  ?
What I mean by less magnified is to imagine it like this.
Take a pair of reading glasses. They are magnified or shall I say, your eyes are looking through THICKER lense.
Now we have to assume perfect human vision when you imagine this.
Now imagine wearing designer specs that are merely clear lens or like a perfect clear window. Less magnified. Keep this in mind.

Now, inside a bell jar, it is, in essence a similar thing, just like you mentioned at first in your post.
So looking through a jar of equal atmospheric pressure than outside, your eyes are looking into that glass but also through the atmosphere to the other side of that glass to see what's through it. In a mild mild sense it is magnified or even slightly out of focus.

Once some atmosphere is pushed out of it, it becomes less compressed, meaning thinner or less matter per square inch which means your eyes see a little more clearly through it.


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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #579 on: August 26, 2015, 03:25:42 AM »
Can someone get rid of his moderator status already?

Why?  Do you think I would not post here and point out your lies if I was not a mod?  I posted here for a long time without being a moderator, just to let you know.  Once again, I apologize for pointing out your drug and alcohol problems, as well as your mental handicaps.  I did not do it to tease you.  I was simply trying to determine how we can fairly treat someone who can't debate with normal people.  Let me know if you have any suggestions.  Thanks.

Since you are such a good mod, why don't you ban Papa Legba for a while? He never ever brings anything into the argument, and all he does is offend whoever he can, and say random stuff that is completely unrelated with the subject matter.
Is Papa Legba becoming a pain in your arse? I hope so because it means what he's saying, works and is being taken on-board by those with a neutral view, leaving people like you frustrated.

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #580 on: August 26, 2015, 06:09:48 AM »
Have you disproved spectroscopy yet?
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #581 on: August 26, 2015, 02:09:44 PM »
LOL!!!

Empedocles paradox states: 'Empedocles the Cretan said; 'Everything Cretans say is a Lie'.

It is one of the oldest examples of a logical feedback loop, i.e. a statement designed to lead nowhere.

These are also called strange loops.

They are a favourite device of Intelligence agencies for messing with the opposition's heads.

Shills, being Intelligence operatives, also like using them...

As neutrals may have noticed!

Now; bearing the above in mind, let's look at Richard Feynman's quote again: 'If you THINK you understand quantum mechanics, then you DON'T understand quantum mechanics.'

Can you see what he did there?

LOL!!!

Quantum mechanics is a strange loop, designed to confuse, confound & generally f**k with your head, making you believe that Nothing is ultimately Knowable & make you live in a fog of disempowered incomprehension...

It is an ugly & cynical Hoax on All Mankind.

Moreover, there is no evidence for it whatsoever...

They are ripping the piss right out of you with this stuff & you don't even notice...

I do, though, & am ROFLMFAO!!!
I got Trolled & Shilled at the CIA Troll/Shill Society and now I feel EPIC!!!

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #582 on: August 26, 2015, 02:13:14 PM »
Lol


Have you disproved spectroscopy yet?

Lol


Lol

Have any evidence at all that quantum mechanics is wrong?


Lol

Did you know you have quantum tunneling happening in your place of living right now?

Lol
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #583 on: August 26, 2015, 02:46:21 PM »
LOL!!!

Do you have any evidence that Q.M. is Right?

Schrodinger's Cat maybe?

Oh, wait; that's ANOTHER Strange Loop, isn't it?

Dang!

For those who missed it, here's the Truth of Q.M; the shills REALLY don't want you to read this, so chances are it's worth considering...

Empedocles paradox states: 'Empedocles the Cretan said; 'Everything Cretans say is a Lie'.

It is one of the oldest examples of a logical feedback loop, i.e. a statement designed to lead nowhere.

These are also called strange loops.

They are a favourite device of Intelligence agencies for messing with the opposition's heads.

Shills, being Intelligence operatives, also like using them...

As neutrals may have noticed!

Now; bearing the above in mind, let's look at Richard Feynman's quote again: 'If you THINK you understand quantum mechanics, then you DON'T understand quantum mechanics.'

Can you see what he did there?

LOL!!!

Quantum mechanics is a strange loop, designed to confuse, confound & generally f**k with your head, making you believe that Nothing is ultimately Knowable & make you live in a fog of disempowered incomprehension...

It is an ugly & cynical Hoax on All Mankind.

Moreover, there is no evidence for it whatsoever...

They are ripping the piss right out of you with this stuff & you don't even notice...

I do, though, & am ROFLMFAO!!!

So should you...
I got Trolled & Shilled at the CIA Troll/Shill Society and now I feel EPIC!!!

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #584 on: August 26, 2015, 03:10:59 PM »
LOL!!!

Do you have any evidence that Q.M. is Right?

Schrodinger's Cat maybe?

Oh, wait; that's ANOTHER Strange Loop, isn't it?

Dang!

For those who missed it, here's the Truth of Q.M; the shills REALLY don't want you to read this, so chances are it's worth considering...

Empedocles paradox states: 'Empedocles the Cretan said; 'Everything Cretans say is a Lie'.

It is one of the oldest examples of a logical feedback loop, i.e. a statement designed to lead nowhere.

These are also called strange loops.

They are a favourite device of Intelligence agencies for messing with the opposition's heads.

Shills, being Intelligence operatives, also like using them...

As neutrals may have noticed!

Now; bearing the above in mind, let's look at Richard Feynman's quote again: 'If you THINK you understand quantum mechanics, then you DON'T understand quantum mechanics.'

Can you see what he did there?

LOL!!!

Quantum mechanics is a strange loop, designed to confuse, confound & generally f**k with your head, making you believe that Nothing is ultimately Knowable & make you live in a fog of disempowered incomprehension...

It is an ugly & cynical Hoax on All Mankind.

Moreover, there is no evidence for it whatsoever...

They are ripping the piss right out of you with this stuff & you don't even notice...

I do, though, & am ROFLMFAO!!!

So should you...


Your stupidity is a strange loop.

Your computer is proof of Q.M.
Math is the language of the universe.

The inability to explain something is not proof of something else.

We don't speak for reality - we only observe it. An observation can have any cause, but it is still no more than just an observation.

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #585 on: August 26, 2015, 03:48:39 PM »
LOL!!!

Do you have any evidence that Q.M. is Right?

Schrodinger's Cat maybe?

Oh, wait; that's ANOTHER Strange Loop, isn't it?

Dang!

For those who missed it, here's the Truth of Q.M; the shills REALLY don't want you to read this, so chances are it's worth considering...

Empedocles paradox states: 'Empedocles the Cretan said; 'Everything Cretans say is a Lie'.

It is one of the oldest examples of a logical feedback loop, i.e. a statement designed to lead nowhere.

These are also called strange loops.

They are a favourite device of Intelligence agencies for messing with the opposition's heads.

Shills, being Intelligence operatives, also like using them...

As neutrals may have noticed!

Now; bearing the above in mind, let's look at Richard Feynman's quote again: 'If you THINK you understand quantum mechanics, then you DON'T understand quantum mechanics.'

Can you see what he did there?

LOL!!!

Quantum mechanics is a strange loop, designed to confuse, confound & generally f**k with your head, making you believe that Nothing is ultimately Knowable & make you live in a fog of disempowered incomprehension...

It is an ugly & cynical Hoax on All Mankind.

Moreover, there is no evidence for it whatsoever...

They are ripping the piss right out of you with this stuff & you don't even notice...

I do, though, & am ROFLMFAO!!!

So should you...

Lol

Quantum tunneling is evidence. Along with a lot of other evidence.


lol

Just because quantum mechanics is too complicated for you, doesn't mean it's not real.


lol
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #586 on: August 26, 2015, 04:09:45 PM »
LOL!!!

Empedocles paradox states: 'Empedocles the Cretan said; 'Everything Cretans say is a Lie'.

It is one of the oldest examples of a logical feedback loop, i.e. a statement designed to lead nowhere.

These are also called strange loops.

They are a favourite device of Intelligence agencies for messing with the opposition's heads.

Shills, being Intelligence operatives, also like using them...

As neutrals may have noticed!

Now; bearing the above in mind, let's look at Richard Feynman's quote again: 'If you THINK you understand quantum mechanics, then you DON'T understand quantum mechanics.'

Can you see what he did there?

LOL!!!

Quantum mechanics is a strange loop, designed to confuse, confound & generally f**k with your head, making you believe that Nothing is ultimately Knowable & make you live in a fog of disempowered incomprehension...

It is an ugly & cynical Hoax on All Mankind.

Moreover, there is no evidence for it whatsoever...

They are ripping the piss right out of you with this stuff & you don't even notice...

I do, though, & am ROFLMFAO!!!

YOU are a strange loop. Even though you have no fucking idea what you are talking about, and most of what you say is completely random, you keep posting that exact same shit over and over again! It's strange how you can repeatedly be so stupid.

Now you clearly don't understand how qm is justified, and you clearly haven't studied it in any sort of depth. Yet you seem to be oddly certain that it us false. Here's a tip: if you have no fucking clue about a subject, just accept what the currently established model, which is supported by people who do know about that subject, has to say about it, and if you study it in depth, THEN you can question it.

You also have no idea what that quote from Feynman means, because it's completely out of context. What he means is that qm is a theory that is not intuitive, and something that the human brain is not geared to directly understand, so we have to use math. That doesn't mean it's wrong, because there is no reason why the universe should function in an intuitive way.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #587 on: August 26, 2015, 04:21:02 PM »
So u r my bff?  :)

Ok, so now we have a mod who trolls and does not understand the word random or can't see how and why the crap Legba is spewing out is random. And you called my bumping an old thread "bad etiquette". Fucking fantastic. The mod is a troll, no flat earther ever provides any reasonable proof for any of his arguments, and we also have Papa Legba who obsesses over the empedoclean paradox while trying to find the solution to the strange loop of his insanity.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #588 on: August 26, 2015, 05:00:08 PM »
The mod is a troll, no flat earther ever provides any reasonable proof for any of his arguments, and we also have Papa Legba who obsesses over the empedoclean paradox while trying to find the solution to the strange loop of his insanity.

Nice summary. Welcome to the Flat Earth Society forums!

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #589 on: August 26, 2015, 05:16:54 PM »
Is Papa Legba becoming a pain in your arse? I hope so because it means what he's saying, works and is being taken on-board by those with a neutral view, leaving people like you frustrated.
I tend to just scroll past his posts.  They're the equivalent of a haiku poem with an epileptic seizure randomly shouting LMAO (or variations thereof).

Anyway, enough about that.  I have a question for you about light and sound.  At what point does sound go from plodding along at roughly 760mph, to becoming 'light' and taking zero time to travel any distance?  The difference does seem odd if (according to you), all molecules are touching with no empty space between them.

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #590 on: August 26, 2015, 10:37:14 PM »
LOL!!!

Hi again, Rayzor!

Still talking to yourself I see?

You really should lay off the booze...

& sock-arul; quantum tunnelling; explain, please...

I need the laughs.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #591 on: August 27, 2015, 05:36:36 AM »
LOL!!!

Hi again, Rayzor!

Still talking to yourself I see?

You really should lay off the booze...

& sock-arul; quantum tunnelling; explain, please...

I need the laughs.
Lol

Like the equation 1+1, quantum tunneling is over your head.


Lol
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #592 on: August 27, 2015, 06:03:52 AM »
I have a question for you about light and sound.  At what point does sound go from plodding along at roughly 760mph, to becoming 'light' and taking zero time to travel any distance?  The difference does seem odd if (according to you), all molecules are touching with no empty space between them.
It doesn't plod along at 760mph. You are made to believe that's the sound barrier but it's not at all. Sound travels much faster and much slower and is dependent on the energy/force applied.

You hear a crack and believe that's that. Why? It's just a compression in a certain form. Thunder and lightning are in a energy form. A compression.
We just happen to hear that compression as a bang at a certain speed. That doesn't mean the speed of sound stops.

Let me put this into your head. Think about it seriously, if you can, which I doubt you will. Anyone else with a brain, think about it.

If a jet breaks the sound barrier as we're told then it's went faster than the so called sound barrier, meaning the sound barrier is not a sound barrier at all, because the jet has flown faster.
That jet is still carrying sound. It doesn't just disappear, it just means that the jet at one stage hit a compression of air into air that created a clap or bang or whatever people want to call it.

That jet (for instance) is moving at speed creating friction. It will compress air and push it out of the way, like anything will.
Just like a bullet will accept a compression against it before it releases from its cartridge. You hear a crack.


Our ears are not designed to pick up higher frequencies but this is when our other senses kick in.

Question: does a dog hear something coming before a human?

Now before some of you jump in shouting, "retard, retard. he doesn't know sound,"...learn it yourself and understand it.
Sound that you can hear does not mean it's only just reached you. It means your primitive ear drums haven't picked up the pressure, whereas an animal will have.
So who counts first, 1/1000....2/1000....us or the animal?

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #593 on: August 27, 2015, 06:22:00 AM »
I have a question for you about light and sound.  At what point does sound go from plodding along at roughly 760mph, to becoming 'light' and taking zero time to travel any distance?  The difference does seem odd if (according to you), all molecules are touching with no empty space between them.
It doesn't plod along at 760mph. You are made to believe that's the sound barrier but it's not at all. Sound travels much faster and much slower and is dependent on the energy/force applied.

You hear a crack and believe that's that. Why? It's just a compression in a certain form. Thunder and lightning are in a energy form. A compression.
We just happen to hear that compression as a bang at a certain speed. That doesn't mean the speed of sound stops.

Let me put this into your head. Think about it seriously, if you can, which I doubt you will. Anyone else with a brain, think about it.

If a jet breaks the sound barrier as we're told then it's went faster than the so called sound barrier, meaning the sound barrier is not a sound barrier at all, because the jet has flown faster.
That jet is still carrying sound. It doesn't just disappear, it just means that the jet at one stage hit a compression of air into air that created a clap or bang or whatever people want to call it.

That jet (for instance) is moving at speed creating friction. It will compress air and push it out of the way, like anything will.
Just like a bullet will accept a compression against it before it releases from its cartridge. You hear a crack.


Our ears are not designed to pick up higher frequencies but this is when our other senses kick in.

Question: does a dog hear something coming before a human?

Now before some of you jump in shouting, "retard, retard. he doesn't know sound,"...learn it yourself and understand it.
Sound that you can hear does not mean it's only just reached you. It means your primitive ear drums haven't picked up the pressure, whereas an animal will have.
So who counts first, 1/1000....2/1000....us or the animal?

Sorry, but the difference between light and sound can be measured. Neither are instantaneous, at least sound is not. When you flick the switch for a lamp you hear the click immediately as you switch, and depending on the circuit you'll see the light from the lamp fractions of a second later. When thunder strikes nearby you hear it and see it at roughly the same time, but when thunder strikes on kilometer away it takes 3 seconds after you see it before you can hear it, and 6 seconds if it strikes 2 kilometers away, and so on. It is proven and certain that neither sound or light travels instantaneously. A rangefinder calculates the time it takes for light to travel to the point in front of it and back to calculate the distance. If light was instantaneous this would not work.
Math is the language of the universe.

The inability to explain something is not proof of something else.

We don't speak for reality - we only observe it. An observation can have any cause, but it is still no more than just an observation.

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #594 on: August 27, 2015, 07:09:50 AM »
I have a question for you about light and sound.  At what point does sound go from plodding along at roughly 760mph, to becoming 'light' and taking zero time to travel any distance?  The difference does seem odd if (according to you), all molecules are touching with no empty space between them.
It doesn't plod along at 760mph. You are made to believe that's the sound barrier but it's not at all. Sound travels much faster and much slower and is dependent on the energy/force applied.

You hear a crack and believe that's that. Why? It's just a compression in a certain form. Thunder and lightning are in a energy form. A compression.
We just happen to hear that compression as a bang at a certain speed. That doesn't mean the speed of sound stops.

Let me put this into your head. Think about it seriously, if you can, which I doubt you will. Anyone else with a brain, think about it.

If a jet breaks the sound barrier as we're told then it's went faster than the so called sound barrier, meaning the sound barrier is not a sound barrier at all, because the jet has flown faster.
That jet is still carrying sound. It doesn't just disappear, it just means that the jet at one stage hit a compression of air into air that created a clap or bang or whatever people want to call it.

That jet (for instance) is moving at speed creating friction. It will compress air and push it out of the way, like anything will.
Just like a bullet will accept a compression against it before it releases from its cartridge. You hear a crack.


Our ears are not designed to pick up higher frequencies but this is when our other senses kick in.

Question: does a dog hear something coming before a human?

Now before some of you jump in shouting, "retard, retard. he doesn't know sound,"...learn it yourself and understand it.
Sound that you can hear does not mean it's only just reached you. It means your primitive ear drums haven't picked up the pressure, whereas an animal will have.
So who counts first, 1/1000....2/1000....us or the animal?

Sorry, but the difference between light and sound can be measured. Neither are instantaneous, at least sound is not. When you flick the switch for a lamp you hear the click immediately as you switch, and depending on the circuit you'll see the light from the lamp fractions of a second later. When thunder strikes nearby you hear it and see it at roughly the same time, but when thunder strikes on kilometer away it takes 3 seconds after you see it before you can hear it, and 6 seconds if it strikes 2 kilometers away, and so on. It is proven and certain that neither sound or light travels instantaneously. A rangefinder calculates the time it takes for light to travel to the point in front of it and back to calculate the distance. If light was instantaneous this would not work.
You're not understanding it. You're going with the accepted way of light being this 186,000 mps energy/thing and accepting a speed of sound as well.
You can stick to that, you seem happy with than so I won't argue the point with you. It would be pointless anyway.
I'll leave it to anyone who is interested and who can see what I'm saying and have been saying.

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #595 on: August 27, 2015, 07:52:07 AM »
I have a question for you about light and sound.  At what point does sound go from plodding along at roughly 760mph, to becoming 'light' and taking zero time to travel any distance?  The difference does seem odd if (according to you), all molecules are touching with no empty space between them.
It doesn't plod along at 760mph. You are made to believe that's the sound barrier but it's not at all. Sound travels much faster and much slower and is dependent on the energy/force applied.

You hear a crack and believe that's that. Why? It's just a compression in a certain form. Thunder and lightning are in a energy form. A compression.
We just happen to hear that compression as a bang at a certain speed. That doesn't mean the speed of sound stops.

Let me put this into your head. Think about it seriously, if you can, which I doubt you will. Anyone else with a brain, think about it.

If a jet breaks the sound barrier as we're told then it's went faster than the so called sound barrier, meaning the sound barrier is not a sound barrier at all, because the jet has flown faster.
That jet is still carrying sound. It doesn't just disappear, it just means that the jet at one stage hit a compression of air into air that created a clap or bang or whatever people want to call it.

That jet (for instance) is moving at speed creating friction. It will compress air and push it out of the way, like anything will.
Just like a bullet will accept a compression against it before it releases from its cartridge. You hear a crack.


Our ears are not designed to pick up higher frequencies but this is when our other senses kick in.

Question: does a dog hear something coming before a human?

Now before some of you jump in shouting, "retard, retard. he doesn't know sound,"...learn it yourself and understand it.
Sound that you can hear does not mean it's only just reached you. It means your primitive ear drums haven't picked up the pressure, whereas an animal will have.
So who counts first, 1/1000....2/1000....us or the animal?

Sorry, but the difference between light and sound can be measured. Neither are instantaneous, at least sound is not. When you flick the switch for a lamp you hear the click immediately as you switch, and depending on the circuit you'll see the light from the lamp fractions of a second later. When thunder strikes nearby you hear it and see it at roughly the same time, but when thunder strikes on kilometer away it takes 3 seconds after you see it before you can hear it, and 6 seconds if it strikes 2 kilometers away, and so on. It is proven and certain that neither sound or light travels instantaneously. A rangefinder calculates the time it takes for light to travel to the point in front of it and back to calculate the distance. If light was instantaneous this would not work.
You're not understanding it. You're going with the accepted way of light being this 186,000 mps energy/thing and accepting a speed of sound as well.
You can stick to that, you seem happy with than so I won't argue the point with you. It would be pointless anyway.
I'll leave it to anyone who is interested and who can see what I'm saying and have been saying.

So lightning, rangefinders, radars etc. are all lies and do not actually exist?
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #596 on: August 27, 2015, 08:18:58 AM »
Next time you get pulled over for speeding just tell the officer radar guns aren't real.
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #597 on: August 27, 2015, 08:39:39 AM »
Next time you get pulled over for speeding just tell the officer radar guns aren't real.
He can tell them sunsets don't exist while he's about it...
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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #598 on: August 27, 2015, 11:02:49 AM »
You know; we have a lot of trouble trying to imagine our own lives and what exactly makes us tick. Basically we have a world that consists of story tellers. Good story tellers, and their stories must be told.
It's how the story is told and how easily it is for the audience to accept it,  which dictates how we move along in life with our natural senses.

The saying, "fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on me," should stay solid and true but the problem is, it's a case of (with many) "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice and a third and fourth,fifth,sixth,seventh.................. , shame shame shame, on me.

Speed of light. Does anyone really know what it is?...the answer is nobody does and for good reason. Light as many people know, or should know by now, is made up of WAVELENGTH'S.


The light we see is made up of WAVELENGTH'S.

Ok, I'll try again just to make sure.

Light is not particles. It is not particles and wavelength's. It is WAVELENGTH'S.

Richard of York goes battling in vain. Colours that we see. R.O.Y.G.B.I.V. Then there are colours that we cannot see but other creatures can. We can if we use technology.
The thing is, our senses can see/hear of feel those colours.

So what is the speed of LIGHT. Is light construed as 1 wave?...one colour spectrum wave?
Is light regarded as all colours mixed?

How does a wave get to us?

Can we make a wave in something that cannot possibly act as a medium?
Space? vacuum?...

Why is space dark?...why is what we see at night, dark?

Take away all of the individual waves and you have nothing. So what is light. What is the speed of light?
Waves are exactly what they are to your own senses. You see them in basic form. All you do from then is see how reflection/refraction separates or merges them into the colours you see/feel/hear.

Now naturally we are not geared to hear colours or feel colours because we are not in tune with our own bodies due to mind saturation by evil people who simply don't want you too.

You are lied to and made to believe utter bullshit that you should have the sense to actually see if you allow yourselves to think.
I have people coming at me with " so tell a policeman that his radar gun doesn't work."
What the hell does that mean?

Let me give you an easy lesson.
You have a tennis ball and you have a wall that is going to move past you. As it goes past, you throw your ball at it with a strength that you know. The ball then rebounds back into your hand and you calculate how long it took.

Now, yeah, that's the basic of basics and is not exactly a radar gun in its entirety but the issue is, it's a force. It's a wave or an energy that is released and returned.

The reason why people don't equate it to sound is because they refuse to see the bigger picture. The simple picture.
Think sonar.
People will argue that it's  not radar but the issue is the same, just in a different method to what we perceive.

Think about it clearly and you will grasp it.
Sound is created by vibration. The frequency of that vibration  will produce light. There's no other way it can be produced other than vibration and frequency.

Now let me show you a neanderthal simplistic way to understand how it all really works.

Get a friend to stand 100 feet away. (Assume darkness)
You have a metal rod attached to say: a motor.
You set this metal rod in motion by applying pressure onto it  against a flat metal plate. You shout to your friend, "can you hear that?"
Of course your friend will shout, yes. Can you see where the sound is coming from. "no."

Add speed to the rod. "Can you hear it?"...." yes but not as loud."....can you see where the sound is coming from?"....."no."

Add speed to the rod on the plate. "can you hear it?"...."yes but very faint." ....Can you see where the noise is coming from?"...."yes, I see a glow."

The most basic way and guess what. No matter how you work it, it is all the same. It's just done in ways that people do not perceive to be from the same way, because it looks too simplistic and life is more complicated, they say.

Life isn't. Life is simple. It's really simple but we've been conditioned to believe it's like a 10,000 squared chess board with two rows of pieces each side.
The same as a 64 squared board in it's set up but instead of us trying to figure that one out, we're coaxed into viewing the 10,000 squared one, where we simply about turn and shout, "no thanks, I'll just accept what is told rather than have my mind blown."

The problem is, some people love the challenge. Some people love the fairground challenge of being the very few that persist in knocking all the coconuts down to win that special prize that was put there to temp them into parting with what they have.

It doesn't matter if little John tells then that the coconuts are jammed into the holders; little John will be told to scram.
This is your wannabe theoretical scientists on this stuff. They simply refuse to use common sense and logic and prefer to wallow in their own naivety in the belief that the more complicated something appears, the smarter you have to be to solve it.

The reality is all around us. Many things are in our faces. The problem is in trying to walk that path without the constant nudging into the hedge.
People are scared to speak their minds because mass opinion not only trumps their mind but also intimidates them into submission.

It's all about speed but not the speed of light. It's about the speed of vibration, or the frequency of it.
Just remember one main thing.
You do not get heat without creating light. You do not get heat without creating friction. You cannot create friction unless you  vibrate matter.
You cannot vibrate matter if that matter has free space between it.

Basically you cannot sand wood if your sander doesn't touch it.
You can't heat water by vibration if that water has separate molecules.
Everything is connected like the bubbles in your washing up bowl in your sink. Those bubbles are only bubbles because they are expanded due to vibration and friction. They pop in front of your eyes as they are compressed (cooled to us).

Every component in your computer when energy is applied, is heat. Your screen is heat made from colour waves, meaning light to your eyes by reflection/refraction.
Every component is a radiator. A vibrating resistor, diode, capacitor, transistor and the roads that lead to them (circuits).
All are heat. All are light. All are made possible by vibration/sound/frequency.

There's a reason why there's fans in your computer. If there wasn't then you would actually see the end product that you failed to see. You would see your computer glow, as in components may glow before your circuit board catches fire = light. The light that you couldn't quite see but could feel and sense as a mild vibration to your ears.

Off topic but still pertinent. Makes you understand how your circuit boards have no chance of working in the space you're  told about. Like I said before. fake space and fake objects in it, naturally.
No medium, no fans, no way to work.

No vibration, no light = darkness= nothingness=impossibility, except for reflection of the light we see, back to us by wavelength...all from good old Earth.

Accept it because that's your life. It's as basic as it can be but could be beautiful if we helped each other to tap into reality, instead of the constant drinks party/materialistic fantasy world we are sold that keeps us all scared and excited in well choreographed measures.

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Re: Apparently Light=Sound now
« Reply #599 on: August 27, 2015, 11:11:17 AM »
Scepti, does that wall of text contain any evidence?  If not then it's not worth my time.
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