Flat Earters are just hardcore hipsters

The dominant reason for believing in the FET is that commonly accepted knowledge that people grow up with cannot be right. That's it. There is no evidence for a flat earth, and flat earthers talk about the heaps of evidence but always avoid discussion on that topic and never show any evidence. The essential point of FET is to doubt a highly complex and complete theory for no logical reason and without pointing out any flaws.

In before the bin.

The dominant reason for believing in the FET is that commonly accepted knowledge that people grow up with cannot be right. That's it. There is no evidence for a flat earth, and flat earthers talk about the heaps of evidence but always avoid discussion on that topic and never show any evidence. The essential point of FET is to doubt a highly complex and complete theory for no logical reason and without pointing out any flaws.

Yep, that pretty much sums it up...

How about this guy " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> He looks like Dennis Leary, except he is making a comedy routine about NASA and flat earth. Is it serious, or just a comedy act? I saw this video at time when it came out, and back then there were barely any videos on flat earth. This was like the only video about flat earth at time. If you watch this video everyone in audience is laughing and clapping and sound like hipster behavior. This must have been at a comedy club..

Quote from: Quail on July 10, 2015, 10:27:37 AM

The dominant reason for believing in the FET is that commonly accepted knowledge that people grow up with cannot be right. That's it. There is no evidence for a flat earth, and flat earthers talk about the heaps of evidence but always avoid discussion on that topic and never show any evidence. The essential point of FET is to doubt a highly complex and complete theory for no logical reason and without pointing out any flaws.

How about this guy " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> He looks like Dennis Leary, except he is making a comedy routine about NASA and flat earth. Is it serious, or just a comedy act?

I have suspected recently that the majority of so called FET don't care about real shape and only care about attention and being cool or hipster. You can see it clearly, because they are always accusing each other of stuff instead of debating the real issues.

There are only a few such as "Stars are Souls" who seem to have an earnest desire to present truth as they see it.

Matt Boylan is interesting,   I think he's like Leo Ferrari with a youtube channel,   but  I prefer him to the psycho's  like the Eric Dubay crowd,  some of those people are seriously disturbed whack jobs.   

Stars are Souls,  seems genuine,  but leaps to conclusions with zero evidence, and just declares things to be fake for no reason.   
Mark Sargent is very smooth and plausible,   but leaves holes you could drive a truck through,  he favours  UA.

Quote from: neutral22 on July 11, 2015, 11:09:41 AM

Quote from: Quail on July 10, 2015, 10:27:37 AM

The dominant reason for believing in the FET is that commonly accepted knowledge that people grow up with cannot be right. That's it. There is no evidence for a flat earth, and flat earthers talk about the heaps of evidence but always avoid discussion on that topic and never show any evidence. The essential point of FET is to doubt a highly complex and complete theory for no logical reason and without pointing out any flaws.

How about this guy " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> He looks like Dennis Leary, except he is making a comedy routine about NASA and flat earth. Is it serious, or just a comedy act?

I have suspected recently that the majority of so called FET don't care about real shape and only care about attention and being cool or hipster. You can see it clearly, because they are always accusing each other of stuff instead of debating the real issues.

There are only a few such as "Stars are Souls" who seem to have an earnest desire to present truth as they see it.

Matt Boylan is interesting,   I think he's like Leo Ferrari with a youtube channel,   but  I prefer him to the psycho's  like the Eric Dubay crowd,  some of those people are seriously disturbed whack jobs.   

Stars are Souls,  seems genuine,  but leaps to conclusions with zero evidence, and just declares things to be fake for no reason.   
Mark Sargent is very smooth and plausible,   but leaves holes you could drive a truck through,  he favours  UA.

I agree. I like videos by Stars are Souls - he is unapologetic in his presentation and seems to drive hard at making interesting points about stuff.

How about this guy " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> He looks like Dennis Leary, except he is making a comedy routine about NASA and flat earth. Is it serious, or just a comedy act? I saw this video at time when it came out, and back then there were barely any videos on flat earth. This was like the only video about flat earth at time. If you watch this video everyone in audience is laughing and clapping and sound like hipster behavior. This must have been at a comedy club..

His info is hilariously easy to debunk.  Most of the images he used were not even photos according to NASA like the Galileo one.  The image of "the lunar module landing" was actually in image from the command module as the Lunar module was preparing to start landing.  He misrepresented round Earth and flat out lied about a few things, claiming that gravity is why we don't feel the Earth's motion and that there is no equation for gravity.

Quote from: neutral22 on July 11, 2015, 11:09:41 AM

How about this guy " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> He looks like Dennis Leary, except he is making a comedy routine about NASA and flat earth. Is it serious, or just a comedy act? I saw this video at time when it came out, and back then there were barely any videos on flat earth. This was like the only video about flat earth at time. If you watch this video everyone in audience is laughing and clapping and sound like hipster behavior. This must have been at a comedy club..

His info is hilariously easy to debunk.  Most of the images he used were not even photos according to NASA like the Galileo one.  The image of "the lunar module landing" was actually in image from the command module as the Lunar module was preparing to start landing.  He misrepresented round Earth and flat out lied about a few things, claiming that gravity is why we don't feel the Earth's motion and that there is no equation for gravity.

you miss the point.. guys like that Dennis Leary guy will always be easy to debunk.. They don't care about fact or fiction. He's just a hipster comedy act like the real Denis Leary.

How about Bill Nye Science guy and fake science? Isn't that more guilty than FET's? Most FET's are just revolting against fake science. Probably there would be no FET movement, except for that these people like Bill Nye, Carl Sagan, NASA, etc have made us question the validity of even something as simple as shape of earth...

you miss the point.. guys like that Dennis Leary guy will always be easy to debunk.. They don't care about fact or fiction. He's just a hipster comedy act like the real Denis Leary.

How about Bill Nye Science guy and fake science? Isn't that more guilty than FET's? Most FET's are just revolting against fake science. Probably there would be no FET movement, except for that these people like Bill Nye, Carl Sagan, NASA, etc have made us question the validity of even something as simple as shape of earth...

TV companies want shows about science that are easy to follow and don't include too much math and proof that would bore most people.  People often take this the wrong way and thik that there is no evidence or math to support it and that the simple explanation is all that exists of the theory.  Those science videos are meant to explain complicated concepts to children and people who don't know much about physics, and they are definitely not a replacement for a physics class.  They are not lying to you, they are just giving information that is highly simplified.

If science were fake then technology wouldn't be advancing as much as it is, the fact that we are communicating on a forum using computers on the world wide web is proof that what we know about science is true.  Either that or all engineers in the world are in on the conspiracy, which you would have to be insane to believe.

Quote from: neutral22 on July 11, 2015, 12:21:04 PM

you miss the point.. guys like that Dennis Leary guy will always be easy to debunk.. They don't care about fact or fiction. He's just a hipster comedy act like the real Denis Leary.

How about Bill Nye Science guy and fake science? Isn't that more guilty than FET's? Most FET's are just revolting against fake science. Probably there would be no FET movement, except for that these people like Bill Nye, Carl Sagan, NASA, etc have made us question the validity of even something as simple as shape of earth...

TV companies want shows about science that are easy to follow and don't include too much math and proof that would bore most people.  People often take this the wrong way and thik that there is no evidence or math to support it and that the simple explanation is all that exists of the theory.  Those science videos are meant to explain complicated concepts to children and people who don't know much about physics, and they are definitely not a replacement for a physics class.  They are not lying to you, they are just giving information that is highly simplified.

If science were fake then technology wouldn't be advancing as much as it is, the fact that we are communicating on a forum using computers on the world wide web is proof that what we know about science is true.  Either that or all engineers in the world are in on the conspiracy, which you would have to be insane to believe.

i agree with what you have said. But I don't like it when people group someone as being religious or a flat earther just because they don't think something like the big bang or evolution or carbon dating to be real or not. The Big Bang Theory is not needed to build a computer or build the internet (maybe only for CERN, lol). All I am saying is that these types of dogmatic beliefs dilute real science, and lead people into rabbit holes (..and then you get these guys like this dennis leary guy who think they are cool and "hipster" to say controversial stuff).

i agree with what you have said. But I don't like it when people group someone as being religious or a flat earther just because they don't think something like the big bang or evolution or carbon dating to be real or not. The Big Bang Theory is not needed to build a computer or build the internet (maybe only for CERN, lol). All I am saying is that these types of dogmatic beliefs dilute real science, and lead people into rabbit holes (..and then you get these guys like this dennis leary guy who think they are cool and "hipster" to say controversial stuff).

"If you judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree then it will live it's life thinking that it's an idiot."

-Albert Einstein

I understand that many people are not very good at science, but that doesn't mean that they are stupid.