Water reported in astronaut's helmet again after ISS spacewalk

I just Googled "why are there loose wires in the international space station" and 3rd down is this;

http://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-inside-of-the-ISS-and-the-space-shuttles-look-so-cluttered-with-wires-and-devices

Seems to make sense to me.

Hello mikeman,

I see, these wires are part of kits they send up for the Astronauts to install. You would think that they would have been trained better on how to lash wires down so they wouldn't get tangles up in things. Also have you never seen a wire chafe? I guess that is just me thinking again. About the water. I think they do that to try and throw us off. I would think space suites would be better designed then let water inside the helmet. Also, are you sure what you see is actually manned or just an image projected in the sky. Of course not, they would never do that.

Yendor

Here is an outside picture with his foot tangled up in some wires. I hope they are not important. I honestly believe they show all these wires hanging around so people will say, "look you know this is the real spaceship because look at all those wires hanging around." This looks impressive to the casual observer. to people in the know, they would never allow wires to simply hang around and float in the air. Get real people. If it was real they would be tied in bundles and secured to brackets. Besides that, they would probably be behind the equipment out of sight and danger.

Yendor

Quote from: Doglover on June 28, 2015, 11:17:30 AM

I just Googled "why are there loose wires in the international space station" and 3rd down is this;

http://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-inside-of-the-ISS-and-the-space-shuttles-look-so-cluttered-with-wires-and-devices

Seems to make sense to me.

quite an interesting read. I agree it all ads up. Certainly better than space flight is a conspiracy alternative being offered by yendor

Quote from: Yendor on June 28, 2015, 11:00:31 AM

Hello mikeman,

I see, these wires are part of kits they send up for the Astronauts to install. You would think that they would have been trained better on how to lash wires down so they wouldn't get tangles up in things. Also have you never seen a wire chafe? I guess that is just me thinking again. About the water. I think they do that to try and throw us off. I would think space suites would be better designed then let water inside the helmet. Also, are you sure what you see is actually manned or just an image projected in the sky. Of course not, they would never do that.

Yendor

But they do attach the wires to the walls, but they also have a ton of other stuff attached to the walls that they have to go around and over quite often.  There are also a lot of coiled wires which I suspect are spares.  They also have to leave room on the walls for more equipment that will be sent up in the future.  It is a bit of a mess, but it's better then having to launch all new modules that are designed to hold the equipment in them.

Space suits are incredibly complicated devices and where there is a lot of complexity there are a lot of things that can go wrong.  Engineers try their best to avoid design flaws but sometimes flaws slip through and make it into the final design.  There have actually been card that have had to be recalled because of flaws in the design or software, even though the company spent millions of dollars designing and testing it.

No technology exists that can project a station in orbit.  You are just making up technologies now.  I have seen the most powerful spotlight in the world in Las Vegas and that is definitely not making a projection in the sky.  And to think that flat earthers call round earthers desperate...

I am actually working on organizing an experiment to prove the shape of the Earth.  I have a few round earther volunteers participating, but no flat earthers yet.  I suggest you volenteer to help out.

Quote from: mikeman7918 on June 28, 2015, 11:32:14 AM

Quote from: Yendor on June 28, 2015, 11:00:31 AM

Hello mikeman,

I see, these wires are part of kits they send up for the Astronauts to install. You would think that they would have been trained better on how to lash wires down so they wouldn't get tangles up in things. Also have you never seen a wire chafe? I guess that is just me thinking again. About the water. I think they do that to try and throw us off. I would think space suites would be better designed then let water inside the helmet. Also, are you sure what you see is actually manned or just an image projected in the sky. Of course not, they would never do that.

Yendor

But they do attach the wires to the walls, but they also have a ton of other stuff attached to the walls that they have to go around and over quite often.  There are also a lot of coiled wires which I suspect are spares.  They also have to leave room on the walls for more equipment that will be sent up in the future.  It is a bit of a mess, but it's better then having to launch all new modules that are designed to hold the equipment in them.

Space suits are incredibly complicated devices and where there is a lot of complexity there are a lot of things that can go wrong.  Engineers try their best to avoid design flaws but sometimes flaws slip through and make it into the final design.  There have actually been card that have had to be recalled because of flaws in the design or software, even though the company spent millions of dollars designing and testing it.

No technology exists that can project a station in orbit.  You are just making up technologies now.  I have seen the most powerful spotlight in the world in Las Vegas and that is definitely not making a projection in the sky.  And to think that flat earthers call round earthers desperate...

I am actually working on organizing an experiment to prove the shape of the Earth.  I have a few round earther volunteers participating, but no flat earthers yet.  I suggest you volenteer to help out.

Mikeman,

You are working on, "an experiment to prove the shape of the Earth". I thought you REers already know the shape of the Earth. The Apollo missions already showed us the shape of the Earth, in you eyes. Are you now saying it may be flat after all? Welcome to the thinking side. I knew you would come around some day. Please try and convince your buddies the same.

Yendor

What are you talking about,

Quote from: Yendor on June 28, 2015, 12:04:16 PM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on June 28, 2015, 11:32:14 AM

Quote from: Yendor on June 28, 2015, 11:00:31 AM

Hello mikeman,

I see, these wires are part of kits they send up for the Astronauts to install. You would think that they would have been trained better on how to lash wires down so they wouldn't get tangles up in things. Also have you never seen a wire chafe? I guess that is just me thinking again. About the water. I think they do that to try and throw us off. I would think space suites would be better designed then let water inside the helmet. Also, are you sure what you see is actually manned or just an image projected in the sky. Of course not, they would never do that.

Yendor

But they do attach the wires to the walls, but they also have a ton of other stuff attached to the walls that they have to go around and over quite often.  There are also a lot of coiled wires which I suspect are spares.  They also have to leave room on the walls for more equipment that will be sent up in the future.  It is a bit of a mess, but it's better then having to launch all new modules that are designed to hold the equipment in them.

Space suits are incredibly complicated devices and where there is a lot of complexity there are a lot of things that can go wrong.  Engineers try their best to avoid design flaws but sometimes flaws slip through and make it into the final design.  There have actually been card that have had to be recalled because of flaws in the design or software, even though the company spent millions of dollars designing and testing it.

No technology exists that can project a station in orbit.  You are just making up technologies now.  I have seen the most powerful spotlight in the world in Las Vegas and that is definitely not making a projection in the sky.  And to think that flat earthers call round earthers desperate...

I am actually working on organizing an experiment to prove the shape of the Earth.  I have a few round earther volunteers participating, but no flat earthers yet.  I suggest you volenteer to help out.

Mikeman,

You are working on, "an experiment to prove the shape of the Earth". I thought you REers already know the shape of the Earth. The Apollo missions already showed us the shape of the Earth, in you eyes. Are you now saying it may be flat after all? Welcome to the thinking side. I knew you would come around some day. Please try and convince your buddies the same.

Yendor

What are you talking about,

Science usually involves taking unusual aproaches to questions we already think we know the answer for. Experimenting more only serves to either strengthen the current belief, or to shake it upside down. In either case, Mike's experiment is only a good thing to happen. Because the earth IS flat, right?

Mikeman,

You are working on, "an experiment to prove the shape of the Earth". I thought you REers already know the shape of the Earth. The Apollo missions already showed us the shape of the Earth, in you eyes. Are you now saying it may be flat after all? Welcome to the thinking side. I knew you would come around some day. Please try and convince your buddies the same.

Yendor

What are you talking about,

Quote from: Yendor on June 28, 2015, 12:04:16 PM

Mikeman,

You are working on, "an experiment to prove the shape of the Earth". I thought you REers already know the shape of the Earth. The Apollo missions already showed us the shape of the Earth, in you eyes. Are you now saying it may be flat after all? Welcome to the thinking side. I knew you would come around some day. Please try and convince your buddies the same.

Yendor

What are you talking about,

I am sure about the shape of the Earth, I am doing the experiment to persuade others. I have participated in an experiment in the past involving sunspot observation and the only excuse people could find to make my findings fit with a flat Earth is to call me a liar.  This is why I am trying to include flat earthers this time.  I am so confident that it will work that I can say that I will become a flat earther if I get results that make no sense on a round Earth and suggest a flat Earth.  After all, any good scientist is open minded.

That's a lie right there, mikeboy. I criticised your "experiment" for being completely amateurish and providing almost no details, apart from your conclusion. I'm sure your next "experiment" will be just as childish.

Be sure to post your scientific paper so I can laugh at you again.

Quote from: legion on June 28, 2015, 01:04:03 PM

That's a lie right there, mikeboy. I criticised your "experiment" for being completely amateurish and providing almost no details, apart from your conclusion. I'm sure your next "experiment" will be just as childish.

Be sure to post your scientific paper so I can laugh at you again.

I provided many details about it and if you have any questions about the experiment nothing is stopping you from asking me.  I was referring to Vauxhall who concluded that my image was faked because it's low quality.  I offered to redo the experiment many times with flat earthers involved.

I don't plan on publishing a scientific paper because to 99% of people the Earth being round is no big news.  I will be posting my results here though to people to which the idea of the Earth being round is big news.

Feel free to come to my thread and many a hypothesis as to what you think would happen on a flat Earth.  Last time the flat earthers posted no hypotheses despite me asking them to, probably because they were scared that it wouldn't come true.

I am setting up this experiment so it will be more conclusive and more people can participate.  Maybe you should participate, I need some flat earthers to help so they can't use the "the images are fake" excuse when the results probe the roundness of the Earth.  If the experiment proves the roundness of the Earth will you become a round earther?  If not then you are clearly very biased.

I'm struggling to see all the mess you guys are going on about.

Mikeman,

You aren't building some kind of Foucault pendulum contraption that will prove the shape of the Earth are you?

Yendor

Quote from: mikeman7918 on June 28, 2015, 12:52:01 PM

Quote from: Yendor on June 28, 2015, 12:04:16 PM

Mikeman,

You are working on, "an experiment to prove the shape of the Earth". I thought you REers already know the shape of the Earth. The Apollo missions already showed us the shape of the Earth, in you eyes. Are you now saying it may be flat after all? Welcome to the thinking side. I knew you would come around some day. Please try and convince your buddies the same.

Yendor

What are you talking about,

I am sure about the shape of the Earth, I am doing the experiment to persuade others. I have participated in an experiment in the past involving sunspot observation and the only excuse people could find to make my findings fit with a flat Earth is to call me a liar.  This is why I am trying to include flat earthers this time.  I am so confident that it will work that I can say that I will become a flat earther if I get results that make no sense on a round Earth and suggest a flat Earth.  After all, any good scientist is open minded.

That's a lie right there, mikeboy. I criticised your "experiment" for being completely amateurish and providing almost no details, apart from your conclusion. I'm sure your next "experiment" will be just as childish.

Be sure to post your scientific paper so I can laugh at you again.

Quote from: Pythagoras on June 28, 2015, 09:37:59 AM

I'm struggling to see all the mess you guys are going on about.

They're grasping at straws.
"Look! This is a problem! Wires all over the place like a jungle!"
*just a couple wires bunched up*
"This is a fire hazard! Trust me I know everything about zero gravity workplaces!"

So what. You obviously know nothing about voltage and current.

Quote from: Dog on June 28, 2015, 03:19:25 PM

Quote from: Pythagoras on June 28, 2015, 09:37:59 AM

I'm struggling to see all the mess you guys are going on about.

They're grasping at straws.
"Look! This is a problem! Wires all over the place like a jungle!"
*just a couple wires bunched up*
"This is a fire hazard! Trust me I know everything about zero gravity workplaces!"

Dog,

So what. You obviously know nothing about voltage and current. You should ask mikey T. about it. He's an expert, a drip under pressure. Yes, I know I'm getting to you guys. We are grasping at trees now we are well past straws.

Yendor

Quote from: Pythagoras on June 28, 2015, 11:24:47 AM

Quote from: Doglover on June 28, 2015, 11:17:30 AM

I just Googled "why are there loose wires in the international space station" and 3rd down is this;

http://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-inside-of-the-ISS-and-the-space-shuttles-look-so-cluttered-with-wires-and-devices

Seems to make sense to me.

quite an interesting read. I agree it all ads up. Certainly better than space flight is a conspiracy alternative being offered by yendor

Pythagoras,

You are correct I had never posted pic before, I do need to resize them. Thanks for pointing that out.

I read the link and that information is wrong. You simply don't do that kind of stuff on any craft or house. If you wanted to install a fan in your old house would you simply run romex down your wall and not go to the trouble of running it in the wall? I was stationed on a navy destroyer for 5 years and never saw any kind of mess that is on the ISS. That ship was nearly 30 years old and had seen man crews come and go. That ship had a lot of changes take place and it looked like the day it was new on the inside. Not wanting to remove panels to run wires behind them. Who are they trying to fool? If those panels are not designed to be remove easily, then someone dropped the ball. I also see a lot of hook and loop (Velcro) straps on cables. there are restrictions on using that stuff on the craft. They don't seem to mind using a lot of it all over the place. Fine if you don't agree with me I don't expect you to. I wouldn't want you guys to be a government inspector.
Just my thoughts.

Yendor

Quote from: Yendor on June 28, 2015, 05:00:35 PM

Quote from: Dog on June 28, 2015, 03:19:25 PM

Quote from: Pythagoras on June 28, 2015, 09:37:59 AM

I'm struggling to see all the mess you guys are going on about.

They're grasping at straws.
"Look! This is a problem! Wires all over the place like a jungle!"
*just a couple wires bunched up*
"This is a fire hazard! Trust me I know everything about zero gravity workplaces!"

Dog,

So what. You obviously know nothing about voltage and current. You should ask mikey T. about it. He's an expert, a drip under pressure. Yes, I know I'm getting to you guys. We are grasping at trees now we are well past straws.

Yendor

All you've done so far is prove that you are a liar   ".... oh please sir, tell me what troll is, it sounds nasty"    and then you admit a week later,  "Yes I was trolling" 
You have no knowledge of what goes on in a space station,  and  know nothing about solar panels or satellites, despite claiming having to have worked in the electronics industry.

I still think you aren't who you say you are.   How about coming clean with the truth for a change?


 

Hello Rayzor,

I love responding to your comments about me. It is easy to get under your skin. You use a lot of words, but say nothing. You have nothing intelligent to say just Blah Blah Blah. The REers need to come up with a better spokes person. Because Rayzor, you aren't cutting it. Have a good day.

Yendor

Quote from: Yendor on June 29, 2015, 09:06:48 AM

Hello Rayzor,

I love responding to your comments about me. It is easy to get under your skin. You use a lot of words, but say nothing. You have nothing intelligent to say just Blah Blah Blah. The REers need to come up with a better spokes person. Because Rayzor, you aren't cutting it. Have a good day.

Yendor

Wrong answer. Try again.

Quote from: Yendor on June 29, 2015, 09:06:48 AM

Hello Rayzor,

I love responding to your comments about me. It is easy to get under your skin. You use a lot of words, but say nothing. You have nothing intelligent to say just Blah Blah Blah. The REers need to come up with a better spokes person. Because Rayzor, you aren't cutting it. Have a good day.

Yendor

You picked the right name. All I see you doing is sniffing Rayzor's arse, or your own. Hmmmm. 

Wrong answer. Try again.

Hello Rayzor,

I love responding to your comments about me. It is easy to get under your skin. You use a lot of words, but say nothing. You have nothing intelligent to say just Blah Blah Blah. The REers need to come up with a better spokes person. Because Rayzor, you aren't cutting it. Have a good day.

Yendor

Quote from: Yendor on June 29, 2015, 09:06:48 AM

Hello Rayzor,

I love responding to your comments about me. It is easy to get under your skin. You use a lot of words, but say nothing. You have nothing intelligent to say just Blah Blah Blah. The REers need to come up with a better spokes person. Because Rayzor, you aren't cutting it. Have a good day.

Yendor

Yendor, please stop putting your name at the end of every post you make, as it serves no purpose and is therefore irritating. In case you hadn't noticed, your name appears automatically at the side of every post.