Water reported in astronaut's helmet again after ISS spacewalk

Hello everyone,

Here we go again, they must be trying to drown our astronauts in that big swimming pool. The article says they installed a new docking port adaptors, ran 400 feet of cable and installed new antennas. They did all  of this which will allow SpaceX and Boeing’s crewed spacecraft to connect with the ISS. My question is why can't they just have the SpaceX and Boeing spacecraft adapt to the docking station that is already on the ISS. That would be cheaper, safer and you already know it works. That is what other spacecraft did for many years.

And here are those pesky wires and cables hanging all over the place. One would think they would tie them up then that by now so they wouldn't get tangled up in them. One man's opinion.
Yendor






CAPE CANAVERAL --
For the second time in less than a week, a NASA astronaut reports a small amount of water in his helmet.

It happened as Terry Virts was re-entering the International Space Station after Sunday's third and final leg of a spacewalk. He was not in any danger.
During Wednesday’s 6 hour and 43 minute spacewalk, Virts reported a small amount of free floating water in his helmet.

Water in an astronaut’s helmet is a big concern for NASA. It nearly drowned Italian astronaut Luca Parmitano during a 2013 spacewalk.

However, NASA said the water only formed in Virts’ helmet at the conclusion of the spacewalk as he was re-entering the space station, which is known to happen from time to time.

“This spacesuit is known to have carryover water,” said NASA Spacewalk Officer Alex Kanelakos. “That’s what we call this type of occurrence, and we’ve had seven other occurrences of this carry over on this spacesuit.”

Despite the water issues, NASA said the three spacewalks in eight days have been a success.

During the spacewalk, Virts and Barry “Butch” Wilmore installed new antennas to the outside of the ISS.

The antennas will provide rendezvous and navigational data for new commercial crew vehicles that will be launching from Florida’s Space Coast, starting in 2017.

It was tedious work for astronauts and required a lot of maneuvers for the pair, who also had to lay 400 feet of cable.

The three spacewalks have now set the stage for this summer, when two other NASA astronauts will install a docking port adapter, which will allow SpaceX and Boeing’s crewed spacecraft to connect with the ISS.

NASA said this is the largest transformation of the space station since its construction as the agency gets ready for a new era of commercial crew spaceflight.

Who says the cable is just laying all over the place?

Who says the cable is just laying all over the place?

Pythagoras,

That is why I included the picture, to show you the wires and cables hanging all over the place. Surely you can see them too. I've never been on any craft, ship, boat, plane, car, train anything that has wires hanging around. I didn't see any wires hanging around on your starship Enterprise. It just looks odd to me.
Yendor

I can't comment adsactly what those cables are. but the 400 feet of cables they installed are on the outside of the station as far as I am aware.

The only lose cable I can see is coiled which means it's probably some kind of data cable to plug into a laptop or some portable pice of equipment. If you think that's a mess I suggest you look at old MIR pictures.

If the loose cables in the pictures bother you, why don't you seek out some of the social media avenues to the crew? There are ways to ask questions and converse with some of them. 

I'm not sure what the point of this is?

If the loose cables in the pictures bother you, why don't you seek out some of the social media avenues to the crew? There are ways to ask questions and converse with some of them.

I don't think they bother Yendor but I would have thought they would bother the hell out of real astronauts, if they really existed.

Have you ever walked into a room of your kids or similar and seen wires all over, then shouted, " get those wires tidied up, you could cause an accident or fire or be electrocuted if anything goes wrong.
You'd be especially worried if you walked in and found their lap tops and all electrical equipment hanging from the ceiling and walls and they were floating about like they didn't give a shit, wouldn't you?

Maybe you wouldn't. Maybe you people are so coordinated that it's natural to want to mess about in danger like this, especially in a so called space station where a puncture or fire  would be the worst nightmare.

It's a non issue.  Their is one cable floating loose in the room. And even that isn't clear because it's right at the top of the frame. What's the issue?

Quote from: Doglover on June 28, 2015, 09:08:30 AM

If the loose cables in the pictures bother you, why don't you seek out some of the social media avenues to the crew? There are ways to ask questions and converse with some of them.

I don't think they bother Yendor but I would have thought they would bother the hell out of real astronauts, if they really existed.

Have you ever walked into a room of your kids or similar and seen wires all over, then shouted, " get those wires tidied up, you could cause an accident or fire or be electrocuted if anything goes wrong.
You'd be especially worried if you walked in and found their lap tops and all electrical equipment hanging from the ceiling and walls and they were floating about like they didn't give a shit, wouldn't you?


Maybe you wouldn't. Maybe you people are so coordinated that it's natural to want to mess about in danger like this, especially in a so called space station where a puncture or fire  would be the worst nightmare.

Right again Sceptimatic. That is exactly what I mean No one would want their house look like that with wires hanging all around. I lived on a navy destroyer for five years and they simply wouldn't allow wires hanging around. How about the jets a lot of these guys fly. Do you believe they would fly one if wires were hanging all over the place, but they will fly in a space station? Tust use mind when you people look at this stuff they shove down your throats. Look at the details. The devil is in the details you know.

Yendor

It's a non issue.  Their is one cable floating loose in the room. And even that isn't clear because it's right at the top of the frame. What's the issue?

Go and take a tour of the so called space station. Go on, there's plenty of willing tour guides. Try Sunita (sunny) Williams. She's the backward idiot that will also aid you in using the toilet so you never make the mistake of crapping down the piss tube, because?....because?.....because N.A.S.A don't take chances. They colour coded the large shit pot and the smaller piss pipe.

Try Chris (singer/songwriter/guitarist/expert photographer/commander) Hadfield. He'll also give you a nice tour with a special interest in how to sling a guitar at speed along the space station, amid all that expensive equipment and LOOSE wiring.

Catherine (Cady) Coleman will also show you how to twist about among the wires. She will also show you how to be totally unbalanced in a supposed zero gravity environment. A sort of " oh look at me, I can't control myself whilst trying to bullshit people that I'm actually on the space station. It appears that my bungee cord has a mind of its own."


Knowing you Thaggy, you're probably Mark Kelly. 

I'm struggling to see all the mess you guys are going on about.

It's a non issue.  Their is one cable floating loose in the room. And even that isn't clear because it's right at the top of the frame. What's the issue?

Pythagoras,

You only see one wire floating around? Look at the big rats nest of wires to the right and the cat-5 cable coming from the computer. go to other videos on youtube of ISS you will see plenty of wires just hanging around unattached.

Yendor

Yes the coiled  wire on the right is coiled I would imagen because it needs to stretch along way. The stuff above his head looks like cord. I'd imagen for tying down something probably the space suite.and a data cable going into the laptop.

I'm struggling to see all the mess you guys are going on about.

Pythagoras,

So you would have not have a problem purchasing a car or boat with loose wires hand down around your feet. Remember, these guys float upside down a lot and their feet are on the sides and in the air and all over the place. If you honestly don't see a problem with this, please don't mess with any electrical wiring, you may get shocked or short something out. Please be careful.

Yendor

If you guys think that's a mess of wires, you should come to my lab. When you find out your Cat-V cables have started forming Bowden ties on their own around the feet of the table, you know you should probably tidy up. Anyway, all I see floating are cables that are intended to plug up somewhere else, like Cat-V or something like that. Respect to the water, since astronaut suits contain water, it  may be that it leaked. A very small amount of water into your nostrils could choke you on free fall, so I guess NASA probably over-reacted (as it usually does, since every death in space results in even less funding)

Wow, if your debunking of the entire International Space Station project consists of "look, some loose cables" then you're desperately clutching at straws.

Quote from: Pythagoras on June 28, 2015, 09:37:59 AM

I'm struggling to see all the mess you guys are going on about.

Pythagoras,

So you would have not have a problem purchasing a car or boat with loose wires hand down around your feet. Remember, these guys float upside down a lot and their feet are on the sides and in the air and all over the place. If you honestly don't see a problem with this, please don't mess with any electrical wiring, you may get shocked or short something out. Please be careful.

Yendor

The cable is going into a laptop. What are they supposed to do with it? And as for the one on the right how do you know it's not in use for something? And it's been coiled to keep it tidy. What's your problem? Like I said. Go and look at old MIR photos. You will shit your pants if tou think this picture Is a problem.

Funny how NASA is so terrible at faking the ISS, but they can render looking down from it in real time. Off-balance? Of course. Us humans have a system to keep them balanced using fluid inside their ears. In 0 g, it gets confused and you become disoriented.

Yes the coiled  wire on the right is coiled I would imagen because it needs to stretch along way. The stuff above his head looks like cord. I'd imagen for tying down something probably the space suite.and a data cable going into the laptop.

Pythagoras,

You are probably correct and it does need to stretch along way. However, the common solution for this problem would be to use coiled wire, the kind that use to come with your telephones. That way it would return to a stowed position or have the wire recoil back into the equipment. I Have designed ground control stations and I would have never allowed any kind of wire simply hand in a big loop or a rats nest on the walls. These GCS were for UAVs not a manned space station hundreds of miles above the Earth.

Yendor

Quote from: Pythagoras on June 28, 2015, 09:42:23 AM

Yes the coiled  wire on the right is coiled I would imagen because it needs to stretch along way. The stuff above his head looks like cord. I'd imagen for tying down something probably the space suite.and a data cable going into the laptop.

Pythagoras,

You are probably correct and it does need to stretch along way. However, the common solution for this problem would be to use coiled wire, the kind that use to come with your telephones. That way it would return to a stowed position or have the wire recoil back into the equipment. I Have designed ground control stations and I would have never allowed any kind of wire simply hand in a big loop or a rats nest on the walls. These GCS were for UAVs not a manned space station hundreds of miles above the Earth.

Yendor

You can't coil neither Cat-V nor coaxial cable, which is what most of those cables will be. Coiled cable only works for shitty short and thin cables.

You want a object with stored potential energy in a 0g environment?

Wow, if your debunking of the entire International Space Station project consists of "look, some loose cables" then you're desperately clutching at straws.

Hello Jimmy,

No, No...this is just one straw of many. Eventually they will mess up and we will see the final straw. Maybe then you guys will realize the ISS is fake.

Yendor

You want a object with stored potential energy in a 0g environment?

Pythagoras,

Oh! I see you don't believe any of these wires have voltage in them. I guess that solves the problem. We can go back to sleep now.

Yendor

Well considering you are failing at even showing this as an issue i wouldn't even call it a straw.

Quote from: Pythagoras on June 28, 2015, 10:01:13 AM

You want a object with stored potential energy in a 0g environment?

Pythagoras,

Oh! I see you don't believe any of these wires have voltage in them. I guess that solves the problem. We can go back to sleep now.

Yendor

What's voltage got to do with anything? I said you want a object that is going to recoil as soon as you release it in a 0g environment.

The International Space Station is constantly being modified, new equipment is constantly arriving from Earth that the station was never designed to use.  This means that they have to place the many wires involved on the walls.  The wires are insulated, so there is no fire hazard, and it's not like anyone could trip on them because everybody is floating around weightlessly.

As for the water in the suit, there is water carried in the suit for temperature control and drinking.  If it was really water from a pool then why would NASA make that information public?

Like you said, the devil is in the details.  It's details like the International Space Station being seen flying overhead that lets me know that it's real.

The International Space Station is constantly being modified, new equipment is constantly arriving from Earth that the station was never designed to use.  This means that they have to place the many wires involved on the walls.  The wires are insulated, so there is no fire hazard, and it's not like anyone could trip on them because everybody is floating around weightlessly.

As for the water in the suit, there is water carried in the suit for temperature control and drinking.  If it was really water from a pool then why would NASA make that information public?

Like you said, the devil is in the details.  It's details like the International Space Station being seen flying overhead that lets me know that it's real.

Hello mikeman,

I see, these wires are part of kits they send up for the Astronauts to install. You would think that they would have been trained better on how to lash wires down so they wouldn't get tangles up in things. Also have you never seen a wire chafe? I guess that is just me thinking again. About the water. I think they do that to try and throw us off. I would think space suites would be better designed then let water inside the helmet. Also, are you sure what you see is actually manned or just an image projected in the sky. Of course not, they would never do that.

Yendor

Quote from: mikeman7918 on June 28, 2015, 10:30:25 AM

The International Space Station is constantly being modified, new equipment is constantly arriving from Earth that the station was never designed to use.  This means that they have to place the many wires involved on the walls.  The wires are insulated, so there is no fire hazard, and it's not like anyone could trip on them because everybody is floating around weightlessly.

As for the water in the suit, there is water carried in the suit for temperature control and drinking.  If it was really water from a pool then why would NASA make that information public?

Like you said, the devil is in the details.  It's details like the International Space Station being seen flying overhead that lets me know that it's real.

Hello mikeman,

I see, these wires are part of kits they send up for the Astronauts to install. You would think that they would have been trained better on how to lash wires down so they wouldn't get tangles up in things. Also have you never seen a wire chafe? I guess that is just me thinking again. About the water. I think they do that to try and throw us off. I would think space suites would be better designed then let water inside the helmet. Also, are you sure what you see is actually manned or just an image projected in the sky. Of course not, they would never do that.

Yendor

Projection in the sky? Oh please what a joke. What do they use? Their magic conspiracy technology's they have had since the 60s?

I just Googled "why are there loose wires in the international space station" and 3rd down is this;

http://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-inside-of-the-ISS-and-the-space-shuttles-look-so-cluttered-with-wires-and-devices

Seems to make sense to me.

Quote from: Doglover on June 28, 2015, 09:08:30 AM

If the loose cables in the pictures bother you, why don't you seek out some of the social media avenues to the crew? There are ways to ask questions and converse with some of them.

I don't think they bother Yendor but I would have thought they would bother the hell out of real astronauts, if they really existed.

According to what he says, they do seem to bother him:

And here are those pesky wires and cables hanging all over the place. One would think they would tie them up then that by now so they wouldn't get tangled up in them. One man's opinion.

Does your comment mean that you don't understand what he's saying, or that you don't believe what he writes here either, and suspect that he doesn't really give a damn about it?

Have you ever walked into a room of your kids or similar and seen wires all over, then shouted, " get those wires tidied up, you could cause an accident or fire or be electrocuted if anything goes wrong.

No, that was never necessary. Thank you for asking, though.

You'd be especially worried if you walked in and found their lap tops and all electrical equipment hanging from the ceiling and walls and they were floating about like they didn't give a shit, wouldn't you?

I would certainly be astonished if this happened! Especially the "floating around" part!!

Maybe you wouldn't. Maybe you people are so coordinated that it's natural to want to mess about in danger like this, especially in a so called space station where a puncture or fire  would be the worst nightmare.

Whether I'm coordinated or not doesn't matter in this instance since I'm not there. Why don't you ask the astronauts about this? They're the ones it matters most to.