Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

aisantaros

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Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« on: July 01, 2016, 01:27:03 PM »

Just Had enough of this stupid "you can zoom back stuffs from behind the horizon" nonsense.

So here is my third challenge for FE-ers (my first and second one are still standing as a statue of Flat Earth failure : https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66967.0 , https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=67031.0 )

3500 euro covered by paypal for the winner or the debunker of my challenge :

Present an unedited video where a ship is clearly showed in hull down position with a clearly visible upper deck and mast like in the picture, the task is to zoom it back to view fully. As simple and straightforward as it can. Go for it!

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2016, 01:33:18 PM »

Looks like waves that are relatively closer are covering up part of the ship that is relatively farther. Perhaps you have no understanding about perspective?

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aisantaros

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2016, 01:40:25 PM »

Quote from: jroa on July 01, 2016, 01:33:18 PM

Looks like waves that are relatively closer are covering up part of the ship that is relatively farther. Perhaps you have no understanding about perspective?

So now ships didn't even go behind horizon ?

No magical perspective obscure stuffs from the bottom ?

A raw video for you same phenomena :

The breakdown of the video

i'am perfectly understand and use perspective, do you ? What is your claim regarding perspective ?

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hoppy

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2016, 05:29:21 PM »

To get the 3500, doI have to make the video or just link it on here.

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aisantaros

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2016, 06:09:43 PM »

Quote from: hoppy on July 01, 2016, 05:29:21 PM

To get the 3500, doI have to make the video or just link it on here.

As you wish, a video described in the challenge wins.

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Ex-Globe

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2016, 07:21:16 PM »

In the raw video the ship never dips fully behind the horizon, it does start fading away due to unclear air

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2016, 07:26:11 PM »

Quote from: jroa on July 01, 2016, 01:33:18 PM

Looks like waves that are relatively closer are covering up part of the ship that is relatively farther. Perhaps you have no understanding about perspective?

The individual waves at the horizon/waterline look like they should obscure no more than 1/4 of one of the ship's decks. That is a pretty large swell that is bringing the individual waves up higher than the camera. Perhaps there was a tsunami that day. I hope Pitdroidtech (the member here that originally took those pictures) survived.

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2016, 10:33:10 PM »

Quote from: aisantaros on July 01, 2016, 01:27:03 PM

3500 euro covered by paypal for the winner . . .

How much does that equal in money?

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JimmyTheCrab

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2016, 02:52:30 AM »

Quote from: 29silhouette on July 01, 2016, 07:26:11 PM

Quote from: jroa on July 01, 2016, 01:33:18 PM
Looks like waves that are relatively closer are covering up part of the ship that is relatively farther. Perhaps you have no understanding about perspective?
The individual waves at the horizon/waterline look like they should obscure no more than 1/4 of one of the ship's decks. That is a pretty large swell that is bringing the individual waves up higher than the camera. Perhaps there was a tsunami that day.

In jroa's world every body of water has a permanent 30m tsunami on it.

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2016, 05:07:33 AM »

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=346u96q&s=9

here, from a 'the earth is flat' video on youtube

watch it, he's explaining that you can see a lighthouse, in this frame he's panned left, he sees the TOPS of those buildings (I've screenshotted at the perfect time), then he quickly pans back to the right

THE TOPS OF BUILDINGS!!

so, unless that is a partially submerged city, the video proves a curve, while trying to disprove it!

Just thought I'd share this with you

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JimmyTheCrab

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2016, 08:22:20 AM »

Quote from: Johnorbital on July 02, 2016, 05:07:33 AM

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=346u96q&s=9

here, from a 'the earth is flat' video on youtube

watch it, he's explaining that you can see a lighthouse, in this frame he's panned left, he sees the TOPS of those buildings (I've screenshotted at the perfect time), then he quickly pans back to the right

THE TOPS OF BUILDINGS!!

Every time these idiots do this all they show is how the world is round.

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2016, 02:34:41 PM »

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 01, 2016, 10:33:10 PM

Quote from: aisantaros on July 01, 2016, 01:27:03 PM

3500 euro covered by paypal for the winner . . .

How much does that equal in money?

This post combined with your username and your profile picture physically repulses me for some reason, please don't do it ever again.

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2016, 06:10:52 PM »

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on July 04, 2016, 02:34:41 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 01, 2016, 10:33:10 PM
Quote from: aisantaros on July 01, 2016, 01:27:03 PM

3500 euro covered by paypal for the winner . . .

How much does that equal in money?

This post combined with your username and your profile picture physically repulses me for some reason, please don't do it ever again.

I don't know that moose are known for their looks or genial nature, and bull moose tend to be full of "it"!

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Bullwinkle

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2016, 08:11:48 PM »

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on July 04, 2016, 02:34:41 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 01, 2016, 10:33:10 PM
Quote from: aisantaros on July 01, 2016, 01:27:03 PM

3500 euro covered by paypal for the winner . . .

How much does that equal in money?

This post combined with your username and your profile picture physically repulses me for some reason, please don't do it ever again.

Because you said please, I will never again combine this post
with my username and profile picture.

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SkepticMike

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2016, 08:57:12 PM »

It can't be done, there are only a small handful of places that produce lenses these days, all of them embed holographic projectors to make it look like a round earth.

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Pezevenk

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2016, 12:18:52 AM »

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 04, 2016, 08:11:48 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on July 04, 2016, 02:34:41 PM
Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 01, 2016, 10:33:10 PM
Quote from: aisantaros on July 01, 2016, 01:27:03 PM

3500 euro covered by paypal for the winner . . .

How much does that equal in money?

This post combined with your username and your profile picture physically repulses me for some reason, please don't do it ever again.

Because you said please, I will never again combine this post
with my username and profile picture.

Thank you.

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2016, 01:08:03 AM »

Quote from: SkepticMike on July 04, 2016, 08:57:12 PM

It can't be done, there are only a small handful of places that produce lenses these days, all of them embed holographic projectors to make it look like a round earth.

Technology has gotten far these days.. Calculating the distance to the object (perhaps via laser/radar?), calculating the apparent dip of the horizon, altering the picture so that it looks like expected on a round earth, all in real-time.
Of course, lenses are clear, so the technology implanted there is invisible as well.
Would love to buy one of those lenses.

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29silhouette

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2016, 07:53:29 PM »

I was hoping for some videos by now. I wonder if anyone is still searching for one that shows that effect.

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rabinoz

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2016, 08:29:12 PM »

Quote from: 29silhouette on July 05, 2016, 07:53:29 PM

I was hoping for some videos by now. I wonder if anyone is still searching for one that shows that effect.

Surely

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John Davis,
JohnRozz (oh, he abdicated),
jroa,
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Space Cowgirl (hardly, if she gores outside the alligators will carry her away, or was that mosquitoes?, )
Charming Anarchist (maybe not - it would be upside-down),
Triddles, I'm sure his "caloric field" would lift the boat, and finally
FlyingPig (thought "pig's might fly" first!

can come up with something!

What about it all you Flat Earth Aficionados!

Otherwise we'll be forced to believe that ships really do disappear behind the horizon!

As seafarers have told us from those ancient Greeks onwards.

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aisantaros

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2016, 03:46:52 AM »

Funny thing, that most of the FE ers I discuss online claim this phenomena the most important thing that made them flat earthers, They all experienced that they can bring back everything from behind the horizon, with scopes and zoom cameras. Interesting.

But where is the videos of this ?

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2016, 06:17:10 AM »

How many FE'ers do you talk to online? Are you talking about youtubers? Lol

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aisantaros

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2016, 06:31:49 AM »

Quote from: jroa on July 06, 2016, 06:17:10 AM

How many FE'ers do you talk to online? Are you talking about youtubers? Lol

It is really just a fun fact, don't take it personally or something, but the bulk of Fe ers on facebook and youtube are have this strong opinion that they can zoom back everything if they want and perspective causes things to disappear from the bottom, because they approaching the vanishing point and they illustrate this with videos from ground perspective when a guy walks behind the uneven surface of a football field or parking lot, or with a tiny boat thats angular size suddenly drops below the angular resolution of the ccd camera when they zoom back from it.

Real problem is the complete lack of working perspective model on Flat earth, and the total failure to explain the horizon phenomenons.

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2016, 08:08:58 AM »

Quote from: aisantaros on July 01, 2016, 01:40:25 PM

Quote from: jroa on July 01, 2016, 01:33:18 PM
Looks like waves that are relatively closer are covering up part of the ship that is relatively farther. Perhaps you have no understanding about perspective?

So now ships didn't even go behind horizon ? No magical perspective obscure stuffs from the bottom ?

A raw video for you same phenomena :

The breakdown of the video

i'am perfectly understand and use perspective, do you ? What is your claim regarding perspective ?

I had my doubts about all those stories but was going on the dark side, but we can see clearly what FE always claimed to be not happening...

This videos hurts

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aisantaros

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2016, 10:54:23 AM »

Where is your flatness now ?

Yes this is an FE video, where the guy confessing in the comments that he stucked with the calculations and the discussion

LOL

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2016, 08:07:19 PM »

Actually the funny thing is a Flat Earther recently debunked FE himself!
His name is Rob Skiba, former FE believer, have a look at 7 min here

And have a look at the comments section, it is hilarious ^^

Come on guys, you are all free to believe in Allah or Jesus. Nobody will take it away from you. Respect to all religions. But please stop indoctrinating uneducated and fragile people. You are compromising your place in Heaven by doing so!

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JimmyTheCrab

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Re: Zoom back objects from behind the horizon - 3500 euro for the first video

« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2016, 03:49:05 AM »

Jesus Christ on a bike, that Rob Skiba thinks you get different curvature depending on where you are on the globe. On a sphere. How do these people get access to technology? It's fucking frightening.

Still, at least it's great globe evidence.

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