Greece says "NO" to austerity

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Greece says "NO" to austerity
« on: July 05, 2015, 01:19:37 PM »
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Re: Greece says "NO" to austerity
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2015, 05:15:25 PM »
Funny how the country whose capital was famous for being democratic is communist.
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Re: Greece says "NO" to austerity
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2015, 12:29:58 AM »
Funny how the country whose capital was famous for being democratic is communist.
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Communism, in its original and in moat modern forms, is democratic (although revolutionary). There is a reason why people say Lenin betrayed the revolution.
Nevertheless, Syriza isnt communist, but social-democrat.
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Re: Greece says "NO" to austerity
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2015, 10:13:22 AM »
And now Greece is looking to steal 30% of it's citizen's subject's savings if they have more than 8,000 in the bank (why anyone would still have that much in a greek bank is beyond me).

Socialism- When we run out of other people's money, we'll just take yours.

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Re: Greece says "NO" to austerity
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2015, 01:36:44 PM »
And now Greece is looking to steal 30% of it's citizen's subject's savings if they have more than 8,000 in the bank (why anyone would still have that much in a greek bank is beyond me).

Socialism- When we run out of other people's money, we'll just take yours.
Can you provide a source? Also, that is called a property tax, and communism specifically says that private property isnt to be taken.
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Re: Greece says "NO" to austerity
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2015, 01:47:11 PM »
At this point, do you think that's the kind of communism they're using?
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Re: Greece says "NO" to austerity
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2015, 03:51:01 PM »
At this point, do you think that's the kind of communism they're using?
They aren't using ANY kind of communism, so.
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Re: Greece says "NO" to austerity
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2015, 08:01:54 AM »
Michael Hudson, Joseph Stieglitz and Paul Krugman all said that they would say NO to the austerity pact. They are obviously not communist. You cannot treat a country as you would treat a company. That's the main error of Nealiberalism. If the citizens have no money to by things, how shall the economy of a country recover? It is a circulus vitiosus .

Re: Greece says "NO" to austerity
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2015, 09:05:07 PM »
And now Greece is looking to steal 30% of it's citizen's subject's savings if they have more than 8,000 in the bank (why anyone would still have that much in a greek bank is beyond me).

Socialism- When we run out of other people's money, we'll just take yours.
Can you provide a source?
Greece 30% haircut/bail-in & google.  It's being denied of course.  Cyprus did the same thing back in 2013.  My deposits would have already been emptied anyway
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Also, that is called a property tax,
So it's ok for them to just take money from your savings, which have already been taxed if you paid income tax, and what about those who have the cash at home and not in the bank?  Would you voluntarily surrender the required amount in order to be fair with those who are having it taken from them?
 
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and communism specifically says that private property isnt to be taken.
I thought they were basically socialist, but you say they're communist?   You mean people actually have private property under communism?

Re: Greece says "NO" to austerity
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2015, 08:58:03 AM »
So it's ok for them to just take money from your savings, which have already been taxed if you paid income tax,
Actually, that's a massive part of where they are now: almost nobody has been paying any tax, especially income tax.  For decades they have had crony capitalism and socialist spending levels combined with low tax levels - which many dodge completely.  It just doesn't add up.

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  You mean people actually have private property under communism?
They aren't a government of communism, socialism or any other other ism - their hands are completely tied whatever their philosophy - they have no money and owe other people lots.  This is a crisis government just desperately trying to keep things afloat.
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