DO CLOUDS REALLY EXIST???

Gravimeters could easily be measuring UA and its variations.

Gravimeters are accurate enough to measure the decrease in gravity as you go higher or close to the equator. This should not be the case in UA

No. I cannot show you an aether particle. That doesn't validate gravity however. Please try to stay on topic.

Not showing a graviton does not invalidate gravity, this was my point.
The topic is DO CLOUDS REALLY EXIST??? and lets be honest, no one here really cares about this topic.

Gravimeters could easily be measuring UA and its variations.

No. I cannot show you an aether particle. That doesn't validate gravity however. Please try to stay on topic.

That was simply a baseless assertion with zero evidence to support it.

You cannot say that something is PROBABLE, or CAN HAPPEN, without first proving that it is POSSIBLE.

UA is bullshit, with very few children left to support it.

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There's no way to disprove something that hasn't been proven. i.e., gravity.

Gravity exists,   what  do you think  needs to be proven?

Show me a gravity particle then we'll talk.

In the spirit of the Zetetic  method,  climb to top of the nearest high building and jump off,  then,  if you survive,  we can talk about your conclusions on the existence of gravity.    If we get past that little hurdle, we can talk in more detail about how gravitrons can break legs.

Gravitons? Where are they? And wouldn't the Earth catching up to you bring about the same conclusion?

You have nothing but invisible and undetcable  forces in your model. It's just as outrageous as FET. How can you not see this?

So,  if gravity doesn't exist,  the discussion is concluded,   the other option is gravity does exist and the discussion can move on to more fertile ground. 

For the sake of argument,  can we assume that there is "something"  that causes mass to distort space in such a way that there appears to be an attractive force proportional to the masses of the objects involved and following an inverse square law.

Further,  (purely for the sake of the discussion)  can we agree to call this "something"  gravity,  for want of a better name,  and lacking any deeper understanding of what it might be?

Graviton,  is a likewise mythical beast, it may or may not exist.   but  even if it doesn't  gravity will still break your legs, and make a mess of your day.   UA  doesn't explain the Cavendish experiments.  So let's leave UA where it belongs... 

Nothing is outrageous as FET,  except maybe DET.

If you had been in Texas lately you would know that clouds really do exist.

Hint: They cause rain.

Rain is caused by lakes and oceans and other water sources simply evaporating into the sky and coming back down, but NOT in the way we think (with clouds). The sky takes the water molecules and acts as a storehouse. When many reactions happen with the molecules (weather is a big factor), the molecules combine, get heavy, and rain but this is an invisible process, "clouds" are projected as "gray" in the sky to make it look "heavy" and make it look  like it's going to rain, but their predictions are often wrong! Clouds often times get gray, but it never rains, and sometimes, there's not a cloud in the sky, and it does rain.

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If you had been in Texas lately you would know that clouds really do exist.

Hint: They cause rain.

Rain is caused by lakes and oceans and other water sources simply evaporating into the sky and coming back down, but NOT in the way we think (with clouds). The sky takes the water molecules and acts as a storehouse. When many reactions happen with the molecules (weather is a big factor), the molecules combine, get heavy, and rain but this is an invisible process, "clouds" are projected as "gray" in the sky to make it look "heavy" and make it look  like it's going to rain, but their predictions are often wrong! Clouds often times get gray, but it never rains, and sometimes, there's not a cloud in the sky, and it does rain.

It is pretty much like everyone thinks.  Once you get out of the city, you can see as well as experience the entire event.
http://www.pic4pick.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/raining-sky-wallpaper-10.jpg

Predictions have nothing to do with clouds.  Predictions come from radar showing where rain is falling
as well as actual reports from the ground of rain happening and people noting which direction.

But rain can start and stop, so predictions are often wrong.

Not showing a graviton does not invalidate gravity, this was my point.

I think your point was lost in translation, or simply sloppy. I am not trying to validate aether. This is about gravity. I would say that aetheric wind theory would be much more valid if we discovered an aether particle. Unfortunately, no such thing has happened with aether or gravity. Until then they are both unproven armchair-theories.

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Not showing a graviton does not invalidate gravity, this was my point.

I think your point was lost in translation, or simply sloppy. I am not trying to validate aether. This is about gravity. I would say that aetheric wind theory would be much more valid if we discovered an aether particle. Unfortunately, no such thing has happened with aether or gravity. Until then they are both unproven armchair-theories.

Gravity is not an unproven theory because of space probes and stuff.  All that's in question is if space travel is fake, and if it's not then gravity is most definitely real.

Gravity is not an unproven theory because of space probes and stuff.  All that's in question is if space travel is fake, and if it's not then gravity is most definitely real.

I think the question is "Has space travel been faked?"

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Gravity is not an unproven theory because of space probes and stuff.  All that's in question is if space travel is fake, and if it's not then gravity is most definitely real.

I think the question is "Has space travel been faked?"

I have calculated that it would take well over 1,000,000 people to fake the Apollo missions, so we can rule that out.

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If you had been in Texas lately you would know that clouds really do exist.

Hint: They cause rain.

Rain is caused by lakes and oceans and other water sources simply evaporating into the sky and coming back down, but NOT in the way we think (with clouds). The sky takes the water molecules and acts as a storehouse. When many reactions happen with the molecules (weather is a big factor), the molecules combine, get heavy, and rain but this is an invisible process, "clouds" are projected as "gray" in the sky to make it look "heavy" and make it look  like it's going to rain, but their predictions are often wrong! Clouds often times get gray, but it never rains, and sometimes, there's not a cloud in the sky, and it does rain.

Are the funnel clouds that turn into tornadoes projections? Where do the projections come from? Where is the projector? Is it a natural phenomenon, or man made? 

sometimes, there's not a cloud in the sky, and it does rain.

Show me one example of this and I will become a flat earther.

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sometimes, there's not a cloud in the sky, and it does rain.

Show me one example of this and I will become a flat earther.

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You will now become a flat earther. I wish to call you flat Mike.

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sometimes, there's not a cloud in the sky, and it does rain.

Show me one example of this and I will become a flat earther.

Sometimes rain will blow far ahead of approaching storms into "clear" skies.

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sometimes, there's not a cloud in the sky, and it does rain.

Show me one example of this and I will become a flat earther.

Sometimes rain will blow far ahead of approaching storms into "clear" skies.

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There were clearly some clouds in the sky in that video.  I asked for an example of rain when there is not a single cloud in the sky.