Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?

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Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« on: June 09, 2015, 04:33:22 PM »
The coding used in the 5100 is unique: it came at a transition point between two specific kinds of system, it's the only real way to read a number of codes.

It's unique properies make it something I need. Does anyone here have one, or have any idea of where I could find one?

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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2015, 05:03:49 PM »
And I suppose you need it to time travel, right? Because you're John Titor, the guy from the future? Right?

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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2015, 05:07:00 PM »
And I suppose you need it to time travel, right? Because you're John Titor, the guy from the future? Right?

I wasn't aware my identity was common knowledge, I've never had cause to travel back. You may recall me from another worldline, I'm afraid I can't be much help.
I need no help in time travelling, clearly. The codebreaking properties are what interest me.

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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2015, 05:09:15 PM »
And I suppose you need it to time travel, right? Because you're John Titor, the guy from the future? Right?

I wasn't aware my identity was common knowledge, I've never had cause to travel back. You may recall me from another worldline, I'm afraid I can't be much help.
I need no help in time travelling, clearly. The codebreaking properties are what interest me.

Unfortunately I do not have an... IBM 5100, was it?

But I support your endeavors and wholeheartedly believe you are a time traveler from the future. If you need my help with anything, simply ask.
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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2015, 05:11:57 PM »
Unfortunately I do not have an... IBM 5100, was it?

But I support your endeavors and wholeheartedly believe you are a time traveler from the future. If you need my help with anything, simply ask.

IBM 5100, yes. I had intended to pick one up in 1975, but I have personal business in this era (I never really got a chance to meet my father, where I'm from. I know roughly where he should be in this time, however). It will be some time before my machine is ready to jump again, so I'll do what I can here.

Thank you for your offer of assistance. All I can ask is that you be vigilant. Currently my only hope is that the future I came from is not the one I will return to.

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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2015, 05:13:47 PM »
Thank you for your offer of assistance. All I can ask is that you be vigilant. Currently my only hope is that the future I came from is not the one I will return to.

What is your future like? And can it be changed?

Is the future set in stone? If not, are there multiple timelines depicting multiple futures? If that is the case, then why are you here to begin with? Your future obviously still exists, and you changing anything in this timeline would simply create a new off-shoot timeline, not change yours. Isn't that right?
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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2015, 05:24:13 PM »
Thank you for your offer of assistance. All I can ask is that you be vigilant. Currently my only hope is that the future I came from is not the one I will return to.

What is your future like? And can it be changed?

Is the future set in stone? If not, are there multiple timelines depicting multiple futures? If that is the case, then why are you here to begin with? Your future obviously still exists, and you changing anything in this timeline would simply create a new off-shoot timeline, not change yours. Isn't that right?

Time travel is a complicated business. Your many worlds hypothesis comes closest: there are an infinity of wordlines, each running parallel, though only one is real. As soon as time travel is invented, however, it is possible to go back to the past: and in doing so, the future from that point is pushed onto another worldline.
Only one timeline can be real (Grant's Conservation of Temporal Potential) so if I succeed in changing events enough here, the future I come from won't have actually happened, except in my memories and experiences.

The future can change, theoretically. The one problem we've found is what we've termed 1%-divergence. If you go back to the past, events are shifted onto the nearest worldline in which those events occurred: which means that it's shifted to the closest possible match to what I consider my present. I could kill the parents of the man who serves as dictator of Switzerland (the political powerhouse in my time), and someone very similar to him would end up taking his place. Even if I only change events after the year 2015, a nearby worldline may have an altered past: so long as all the events were in motion for me to change an event, even the past could alter on the nearby worldline, to ensure a close match.
1%-divergence is not proven, but there is a worrying amount of experimental data. I'm hoping that either a sufficiently large change, or a multitude of them, will be enough to push past that barrier. Hopefully the fact another me has come here before will be an aid.

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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2015, 05:36:20 PM »
I wish you luck, and I pray that you don't make things worse for my future. I would hope that you have taken all these things into consideration, however.

And yes, another you has traveled to this timeline. You have many fans. Now that you are back, can I assume that the first Titor's mission was a failure? Or perhaps it was completely unrelated to what you are trying to do?

Another question, why did you come to this forum? Wouldn't it be more fruitful to try a forum that was more tech-inclined to find your IBM 5100?
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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2015, 05:40:36 PM »
I wish you luck, and I pray that you don't make things worse for my future. I would hope that you have taken all these things into consideration, however.

And yes, another you has traveled to this timeline. You have many fans. Now that you are back, can I assume that the first Titor's mission was a failure? Or perhaps it was completely unrelated to what you are trying to do?

Another question, why did you come to this forum? Wouldn't it be more fruitful to try a forum that was more tech-inclined to find your IBM 5100?

It looks like that Titor's worldline was somewhat different to my own. I suspect I just tend to be better suited for time travel, within the 1% divergence allowed.

It's hard to be certain of aything, with time travel. I'll do my best.

If I joined a more serious forum, I'd be kicked off in maybe an hour. I'm aware of how time travel is commonly perceived. I did my research before coming here: this forum is unique. It both allows views that would be laughed off elsewhere, but also has a certain intellectual patronship who are attracted by what they perceive as absurdity. If it fails, I'll turn elsewhere, or continue back to 1975.

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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2015, 05:31:47 AM »
If I joined a more serious forum, I'd be kicked off in maybe an hour. I'm aware of how time travel is commonly perceived. I did my research before coming here: this forum is unique. It both allows views that would be laughed off elsewhere, but also has a certain intellectual patronship who are attracted by what they perceive as absurdity. If it fails, I'll turn elsewhere, or continue back to 1975.
First rule of time travel: don't tell everyone that you're a time traveler.  Second rule of time travel: buy your obscure antiques in a time before they become obscure antiques.
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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2015, 05:34:04 AM »
If I joined a more serious forum, I'd be kicked off in maybe an hour. I'm aware of how time travel is commonly perceived. I did my research before coming here: this forum is unique. It both allows views that would be laughed off elsewhere, but also has a certain intellectual patronship who are attracted by what they perceive as absurdity. If it fails, I'll turn elsewhere, or continue back to 1975.
First rule of time travel: don't tell everyone that you're a time traveler.

There's very little to explain why I'm after what I'm after unless I do.
Besides, I'm trying to change the future. Making ripples is one way.

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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2015, 05:44:28 AM »
Is there any reason that this silly thread hasn't been relocated to "Complete Nonsense"?

This forum is allegedly about genuine technology; and not a place for nonsense posted by trolls.  Please move it.


Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2015, 05:47:41 AM »
Is there any reason that this silly thread hasn't been relocated to "Complete Nonsense"?

This forum is allegedly about genuine technology; and not a place for nonsense posted by trolls.  Please move it.

To my knowledge, the IBM 5100 is a form of technology. Though we may have gotten a little off topic about my background, my question remains.

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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2015, 06:15:06 AM »
Is there any reason that this silly thread hasn't been relocated to "Complete Nonsense"?

This forum is allegedly about genuine technology; and not a place for nonsense posted by trolls.  Please move it.

To my knowledge, the IBM 5100 is a form of technology. Though we may have gotten a little off topic about my background, my question remains.
The IBM 5100 is basically a luggable S360.  Why not just look for an S360 emulator instead?  The hardware itself is pitifully outdated today, let alone whatever future you claim to be from.  Hasn't quantum computing made code breaking trivial in the future.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2015, 08:01:29 AM »
Is there any reason that this silly thread hasn't been relocated to "Complete Nonsense"?

This forum is allegedly about genuine technology; and not a place for nonsense posted by trolls.  Please move it.

To my knowledge, the IBM 5100 is a form of technology. Though we may have gotten a little off topic about my background, my question remains.
The IBM 5100 is basically a luggable S360.  Why not just look for an S360 emulator instead?  The hardware itself is pitifully outdated today, let alone whatever future you claim to be from.  Hasn't quantum computing made code breaking trivial in the future.

Quantum computers are inaccessible to most of us. It comes down to when the IBM 5100 was invented; it was before computer languages had fully settled down. While a advanced computer might be enough, I don't have the means to get to one, or use it. The IBM 5100 will interpret anything written in its unique language, which is why I need it.

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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2015, 12:48:30 PM »
Is there any reason that this silly thread hasn't been relocated to "Complete Nonsense"?

This forum is allegedly about genuine technology; and not a place for nonsense posted by trolls.  Please move it.

To my knowledge, the IBM 5100 is a form of technology. Though we may have gotten a little off topic about my background, my question remains.
The IBM 5100 is basically a luggable S360.  Why not just look for an S360 emulator instead?  The hardware itself is pitifully outdated today, let alone whatever future you claim to be from.  Hasn't quantum computing made code breaking trivial in the future.

Quantum computers are inaccessible to most of us. It comes down to when the IBM 5100 was invented; it was before computer languages had fully settled down.
Which languages are you referring to?

The IBM 5100 will interpret anything written in its unique language, which is why I need it.
Which unique language: APL or BASIC?  Neither is unique to the 5100 as APL ran on mainframes and BASIC was common on desktops.  The 5100 used microcode to emulate an S360 so that programs written on it could be used on mainframes, so I'm not really sure why only a 5100 will do. 

However, if you really must have a 5100, there is currently one available on eBay for $2500.  Better hurry before another you from a different timeline grabs it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-IBM-5100-Portable-Computer-/261909423401
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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2015, 12:55:08 PM »
The IBM 5100 has a unique feature (that was kept hidden when it was first released. Take that as you will), it can emulate programs in both BASIC and APL, which can be used to interpret and 'debug' certain files.

I wasn't aware of ebay, thank you for informing me. I'll try to purchase it, once I place a sufficient bet. It's non-functional, but I'll hopefully be able to repair it.

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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2015, 07:25:59 AM »
Is there any reason that this silly thread STILL hasn't been relocated to "Complete Nonsense"?

This forum is allegedly about genuine technology; and not a place for juvenile rubbish posted by trolls.  Please move it.

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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2015, 07:39:47 AM »
Is there any reason that this silly thread STILL hasn't been relocated to "Complete Nonsense"?

This forum is allegedly about genuine technology; and not a place for juvenile rubbish posted by trolls.  Please move it.

You take this site way too seriously.
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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2015, 09:44:50 AM »
You take this site way too seriously.

Well Jane... someone has to.  The flat earthers in the main don't seem to.    ::)

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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2015, 10:44:56 AM »
This John Titor really isn't as good as the last one. He gave us details on the six main components required for a time machine.

At least it keeps the meme alive.

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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2015, 11:42:59 AM »
Is there any reason that this silly thread STILL hasn't been relocated to "Complete Nonsense"?

This forum is allegedly about genuine technology; and not a place for juvenile rubbish posted by trolls.  Please move it.
Are you saying that IBM never made a model 5100?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_5100
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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2015, 12:07:56 PM »
This John Titor really isn't as good as the last one. He gave us details on the six main components required for a time machine.

From what I've heard, my time machine is of a different design to the other wordline's Titor. Much of it is beyond modern science.

The heart of the machine is founded upon manipulating strings of matter. It relies upon an electromagnet, and a sufficiently large mass (mine relies upon solid ununoctonium, an isotope with 179 neutrons). Once the magnet is activated, and the Thalian point of the field is centred at some point on the mass, a second rod of metal is introduced. Magnetism is induced, and moved until its Thalian point is at the same point of the mass. This is what sets up the resonance.

The key components are a DC power source, an electromagnet, a metal rod, and a large mass: a primitive machine was made with lead, but it was very limited in how far it could travel, as well as being inaccurate. The real challenge is the calculations to do beforehand: how much power to introduce, how long to hold it for. There's an element of randomness, but I'm never more than a couple of days from my goal.

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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2015, 10:45:08 PM »
Is there any reason that this silly thread STILL hasn't been relocated to "Complete Nonsense"?

This forum is allegedly about genuine technology; and not a place for juvenile rubbish posted by trolls.  Please move it.
C'mon Geoff don't be calling something juvenile rubbish just because you cannot grasp it. Try to understand what is being discussed here. It all makes sense to me, hey it may even be enough to turn me round earth.

Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2015, 01:13:25 PM »
The heart of the machine is founded upon manipulating strings of matter. It relies upon an electromagnet, and a sufficiently large mass (mine relies upon solid ununoctonium, an isotope with 179 neutrons).

This sounds very similar to unobtainium - will this not do?
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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2015, 01:39:03 PM »
The heart of the machine is founded upon manipulating strings of matter. It relies upon an electromagnet, and a sufficiently large mass (mine relies upon solid ununoctonium, an isotope with 179 neutrons).

This sounds very similar to unobtainium - will this not do?
Actually sounds like Ununoctium, which is a temporary name given to a newly discovered element. Id give him +1 point for an appropriate name, but -1 for not realizing that once the element is established it would get a proper name. Unless its proper name is ununoctonium, and not incorrectly spelt Ununoctium in which case he gets his point back.

edit he loses his point to the already named Unseptennium which will fill the spot with 179 neutrons
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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2015, 02:53:57 PM »
The heart of the machine is founded upon manipulating strings of matter. It relies upon an electromagnet, and a sufficiently large mass (mine relies upon solid ununoctonium, an isotope with 179 neutrons).

This sounds very similar to unobtainium - will this not do?
Actually sounds like Ununoctium, which is a temporary name given to a newly discovered element. Id give him +1 point for an appropriate name, but -1 for not realizing that once the element is established it would get a proper name. Unless its proper name is ununoctonium, and not incorrectly spelt Ununoctium in which case he gets his point back.

edit he loses his point to the already named Unseptennium which will fill the spot with 179 neutrons

Unseptennium is a different element. It is ununoctonium I referred to (or perhaps ununoctium, convention changes. Unium, Dunium, Trinium... are terms used in dimensional research, there may have been a shift in standard) due to the number of protons. The isotope with 179 neutrons is the kind I use.

It does have another name, I just refuse to use it. It's named after a CERN scientist who was instrumental in EntrückungNacht, I refuse to honor him.

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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2015, 03:49:49 PM »
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Re: Does Anyone Have Access to an IBM 5100?
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2015, 04:04:50 PM »
EntrückungNacht,

Night rapture?

Rapture-night. The night of the Rapture. It was the initial reaction of many people, before CERN took responsibility. It was when hundreds of lives were lost the first time they used the full potential of the LHC as a weapon, and its artificial black holes.

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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2015, 04:29:36 PM »
Catchy.
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