evidence clouds do not exist

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Re: evidence clouds do not exist
« Reply #150 on: May 29, 2015, 12:26:26 PM »
I know about dual-earth theory.
you clearly do not. there is no computing power needed. there is nothing special going on, just light moving through space: it is the space that is 'projected: that is, it flows to a position above the earth. why would it not be visible from all directions?  if you knew the dual earth model of the sun, you would know that. the sun does not achieve it, aether does.

Actually the dual-earth theory states that the dual-hemiplane Earth rotates around the Sun, and around its own axis. You clearly are not informed about the latest version of this theory.

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« Reply #151 on: May 29, 2015, 12:29:13 PM »
I know about dual-earth theory.
you clearly do not. there is no computing power needed. there is nothing special going on, just light moving through space: it is the space that is 'projected: that is, it flows to a position above the earth. why would it not be visible from all directions?  if you knew the dual earth model of the sun, you would know that. the sun does not achieve it, aether does.

Actually the dual-earth theory states that the dual-hemiplane Earth rotates around the Sun, and around its own axis. You clearly are not informed about the latest version of this theory.

read the current model thread you illiterate moron. i know my own theory. if you are not going to be serious do not interrupt a scientific conversation.
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« Reply #152 on: May 29, 2015, 12:37:55 PM »
read the current model thread you illiterate moron. i know my own theory. if you are not going to be serious do not interrupt a scientific conversation.

Oh, didn't you know? Your theory was upgraded. Here's an updated version of how the dual-hemiplane Earth works:

http://i.imgur.com/mUyeSkd.png

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« Reply #153 on: May 29, 2015, 12:39:47 PM »
shut up and go away. have your own theory if you want, do not put words in my mouth, i am tired of how pathetic all of you are. you aren't even capable of defending your own theories without falling back on blatant straw men. thank you for making it clear to everyone where your intelligence and open-mindedness stops. just fuck off.
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Re: evidence clouds do not exist
« Reply #154 on: May 29, 2015, 12:41:28 PM »
shut up and go away. have your own theory if you want, do not put words in my mouth, i am tired of how pathetic all of you are. you aren't even capable of defending your own theories without falling back on blatant straw men. thank you for making it clear to everyone where your intelligence and open-mindedness stops. just fuck off.

Sorry, dude, you're outdated. No need to be angry about it. You made the foundation of the theory, after all. It was just improved. You should be proud, not angry.

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« Reply #155 on: May 29, 2015, 12:43:49 PM »
shut up and go away. have your own theory if you want, do not put words in my mouth, i am tired of how pathetic all of you are. you aren't even capable of defending your own theories without falling back on blatant straw men. thank you for making it clear to everyone where your intelligence and open-mindedness stops. just fuck off.

Sorry, dude, you're outdated. No need to be angry about it. You made the foundation of the theory, after all. It was just improved. You should be proud, not angry.

go fuck yourself you patronizing little asswipe. i have put a lot of work into my theory, pay attention to what i have actually stated and put forth or just fuck off. you are wasting time at this point. you have nothing to say. stop posting. stop wasting time.
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Re: evidence clouds do not exist
« Reply #156 on: May 29, 2015, 12:45:17 PM »
go fuck yourself you patronizing little asswipe. i have put a lot of work into my theory, pay attention to what i have actually stated and put forth or just fuck off. you are wasting time at this point. you have nothing to say. stop posting. stop wasting time.

Dude, you're a scientist. Scientists know when they're outdated, and accept it. No need to swear and get angry.

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« Reply #157 on: May 29, 2015, 12:49:56 PM »
go fuck yourself you patronizing little asswipe. i have put a lot of work into my theory, pay attention to what i have actually stated and put forth or just fuck off. you are wasting time at this point. you have nothing to say. stop posting. stop wasting time.

Dude, you're a scientist. Scientists know when they're outdated, and accept it. No need to swear and get angry.

you are a moron. fuck off, i am sick of you. stop ignoring the work i have put in to creating a working model of the world. you are a waste of time and space. just leave and stop wasting everybody's time. some of us are actually trying to have a scientific duscussion, do you mind not derailing everything with your utter bs?
if you really want to talk about your model, start your own thread, stop ruining mine.
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« Reply #158 on: May 29, 2015, 12:51:46 PM »
you are a moron. fuck off, i am sick of you. stop ignoring the work i have put in to creating a working model of the world. you are a waste of time and space. just leave and stop wasting everybody's time. some of us are actually trying to have a scientific duscussion, do you mind not derailing everything with your utter bs?
if you really want to talk about your model, start your own thread, stop ruining mine.

You're just angry I improved your outdated model. It's okay, some people have a hard time moving forward. Just wait it out. I did not cancel your work. I just improved it.

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Re: evidence clouds do not exist
« Reply #159 on: May 29, 2015, 12:54:18 PM »
you are a moron. fuck off, i am sick of you. stop ignoring the work i have put in to creating a working model of the world. you are a waste of time and space. just leave and stop wasting everybody's time. some of us are actually trying to have a scientific duscussion, do you mind not derailing everything with your utter bs?
if you really want to talk about your model, start your own thread, stop ruining mine.

You're just angry I improved your outdated model. It's okay, some people have a hard time moving forward. Just wait it out. I did not cancel your work. I just improved it.

FUCK OFF
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Re: evidence clouds do not exist
« Reply #160 on: May 29, 2015, 01:18:16 PM »
Now I'm confused. I thought clouds were caused by the projection of rocks around the Sun. But now you say that they are space that has flowed from...the Sun? It sounds very complicated.
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Re: evidence clouds do not exist
« Reply #161 on: May 29, 2015, 01:19:19 PM »
I know about dual-earth theory.
you clearly do not. there is no computing power needed. there is nothing special going on, just light moving through space: it is the space that is 'projected: that is, it flows to a position above the earth. why would it not be visible from all directions?  if you knew the dual earth model of the sun, you would know that. the sun does not achieve it, aether does.

Where is your ground breaking optical research that would win you a Nobel prize?
if you're not even going to read anything i post, why do you ask questions that clearly have no merit?
I agree, your opinions have no merit without evidence.
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Re: evidence clouds do not exist
« Reply #162 on: May 30, 2015, 03:34:26 AM »
I thought clouds were caused by the projection of rocks around the Sun.
that's what i said.

But now you say that they are space that has flowed from...the Sun? It sounds very complicated.
what did you even read?! the space flows form the area around the sun, yes, not from the sun. the flow of space is the reason why the sun is visible. did you even do as i asked and learn how the sun works under dual earth theory?! how many times do i have to ask you? educate yourself about what you're making such absurd claims about.

I agree, your opinions have no merit without evidence.
i have given my evidence. if youa re not going to respond, shut up.
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Re: evidence clouds do not exist
« Reply #163 on: May 30, 2015, 11:53:18 AM »
Jrowe, if you want to convince people of your theory then there are better ways of doing that then insulting those who ask questions about it.  Don't automatically assume that everyone is reading every one of your posts.  Has it ever occurred to you that the reason nobody understands your theory is because you suck at explaining it?
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« Reply #164 on: May 30, 2015, 01:07:17 PM »
Jrowe, if you want to convince people of your theory then there are better ways of doing that then insulting those who ask questions about it.  Don't automatically assume that everyone is reading every one of your posts.  Has it ever occurred to you that the reason nobody understands your theory is because you suck at explaining it?

if that is so then they could ask about what aspects they struggle with. i do not get annoyed when people haven't read every post on the forum: i get annoyed when they don't read the posts i directly write in response to them (something you are very guilty of) or when they refuse to read a section of the model thread they're directed to, as if their refusal to learn about the theory still makes them an expert on it.
pay attention. i insult when i am disrespected.
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« Reply #165 on: May 30, 2015, 01:15:54 PM »
pay attention. i insult when i am disrespected.

Countering disrespect with disrespect.  That just sounds foolproof.  Just imagine if there were 2 if you, that would be a sight to see.
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Re: evidence clouds do not exist
« Reply #166 on: May 31, 2015, 12:56:27 AM »
Slightly alternate logic here, but I'd like to introduce a new idea. Ash. Ash is heavier than air, this is easily observed in fireplaces, and the fact that it falls. How come there can be ash clouds if ash is heavier than air?
One day this argument will cease. Probably about two days after four horses of the apocalypse charge in and declare judgement day with fairies on their backs.

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« Reply #167 on: May 31, 2015, 09:27:03 AM »
Slightly alternate logic here, but I'd like to introduce a new idea. Ash. Ash is heavier than air, this is easily observed in fireplaces, and the fact that it falls. How come there can be ash clouds if ash is heavier than air?

surface area and energy (in the form of heat), which the tiny droplets of water do not have. this has been explained before, using dust. also, the motion of ash and clouds is completely difefrent, so even if you did seek to make an exception, it wouldn't be relevant as clouds do not fluctuate wildly like browian motion would suggest.
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« Reply #168 on: May 31, 2015, 10:35:50 AM »
Have you never heard of ash clouds? Also the energy given to them by sunlight and other forms of heat explain the energy (in the form of heat) via the processes of radiation and conduction.
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« Reply #169 on: May 31, 2015, 10:47:57 AM »
Have you never heard of ash clouds? Also the energy given to them by sunlight and other forms of heat explain the energy (in the form of heat) via the processes of radiation and conduction.
ash clouds fall, unless (like volcanic ash clouds) they had an incredibly upwards force that kept them aloft.
energy given like sunlight would be shared: the air that should be weighing it down would share in it.
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Re: evidence clouds do not exist
« Reply #170 on: June 01, 2015, 11:27:05 PM »
I am still waiting for the evidence that clouds do not exist.
All we have so far is an assumption based on words.
Words are not evidence.
What you actually need to get a microlight or hot air balloon and fly in one of the "clouds", take samples and run chemical tests for the presence of H2O. If no H2O is confirmed after multiple tests (to ensure there are no bad test samples) then you can write your article explaining your evidence.
Get a university to peer review it for you and collect your Nobel Prize.

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Re: evidence clouds do not exist
« Reply #171 on: June 02, 2015, 05:45:56 AM »
HOW. DOES. LIQUID. WATER. FLY

It's not flying.  It's falling... With style.

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« Reply #172 on: June 02, 2015, 05:50:03 AM »
I am still waiting for the evidence that clouds do not exist.
read.

Words are not evidence.
logic is. if we cannot apply the rules that govern the world, what is the point in knowing them? do you assume a ballc ould go up or could go down when you drop it, or do you rely on logic and experience which say it will fall? 

take samples and run chemical tests for the presence of H2O
water vapor exists at that altitude. why do you refuse to learn about what you're whining about?
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Re: evidence clouds do not exist
« Reply #173 on: June 02, 2015, 12:46:04 PM »
take samples and run chemical tests for the presence of H2O
water vapor exists at that altitude. why do you refuse to learn about what you're whining about?

Then take samples both inside of and outside of clouds.
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« Reply #174 on: June 02, 2015, 01:41:15 PM »
take samples and run chemical tests for the presence of H2O
water vapor exists at that altitude. why do you refuse to learn about what you're whining about?

Then take samples both inside of and outside of clouds.
a) how?
b) why?
c) buy me a helicopter and i'll be glad to. 
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Re: evidence clouds do not exist
« Reply #175 on: June 02, 2015, 02:01:48 PM »
take samples and run chemical tests for the presence of H2O
water vapor exists at that altitude. why do you refuse to learn about what you're whining about?

Then take samples both inside of and outside of clouds.
a) how?
b) why?
c) buy me a helicopter and i'll be glad to.

You could hike up a mountain, it's much cheaper than a helicopter. I've walked through clouds up mountains several times. You get wet.
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Re: evidence clouds do not exist
« Reply #176 on: June 02, 2015, 03:47:32 PM »
I have been in clouds many times at the top of mountains.  It's not that rare.  The clouds pass by too so you can sample regular air from that altitude.
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Re: evidence clouds do not exist
« Reply #177 on: June 03, 2015, 02:26:01 AM »
I have flown through clouds countless times - they are wet.
Buy a ticket to a hot air balloon ride, cheaper than buying an actual helicopter.
Until you start testing no one is going to take you seriously.
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« Reply #178 on: June 03, 2015, 05:21:49 AM »
You could hike up a mountain, it's much cheaper than a helicopter. I've walked through clouds up mountains several times. You get wet.
this has already been explained several times. mist is supported by ground. it is completely different to flying water.

I have flown through clouds countless times - they are wet.
everything at that altitude is wet, it's where all the water vapor condenses. this has already been explained.

start responding to my actual argument rather than these weak and obvious straw men.
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« Reply #179 on: June 03, 2015, 05:24:45 AM »
I have flown through clouds countless times - they are wet.
everything at that altitude is wet, it's where all the water vapor condenses. this has already been explained.

start responding to my actual argument rather than these weak and obvious straw men.

What altitude. I am talking about flying through clouds with micro lights. not at 30 000ft. Its wet in the cloud, its not wet out of the cloud
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