Round earth theory hoist by own petard

Okay, demonic round earthers believe the world is broken into plates (but somehow hasn't exploded into tiny pieces yet). Assuming this true, we run into a big problem. IF plates existed, they would all have eroded by now via erosion, leaving no Earth, only magma (which has never been demonstrated to exist under the Earth).

Round Earth models eat themselves! Only FET is internally consistent.

Okay, demonic round earthers believe the world is broken into plates (but somehow hasn't exploded into tiny pieces yet). Assuming this true, we run into a big problem. IF plates existed, they would all have eroded by now via erosion, leaving no Earth, only magma (which has never been demonstrated to exist under the Earth).

Round Earth models eat themselves! Only FET is internally consistent.

how does erosion destroy matter?

It just moves it around it doesn't just disappear

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 10, 2015, 04:12:07 PM

Okay, demonic round earthers believe the world is broken into plates (but somehow hasn't exploded into tiny pieces yet). Assuming this true, we run into a big problem. IF plates existed, they would all have eroded by now via erosion, leaving no Earth, only magma (which has never been demonstrated to exist under the Earth).

Round Earth models eat themselves! Only FET is internally consistent.

how does erosion destroy matter?

It just moves it around it doesn't just disappear

True.
I'd suggest (to the OP) reading about the law of conservation of mass.

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Quote from: trueflatearther on May 10, 2015, 04:12:07 PM

Okay, demonic round earthers believe the world is broken into plates (but somehow hasn't exploded into tiny pieces yet). Assuming this true, we run into a big problem. IF plates existed, they would all have eroded by now via erosion, leaving no Earth, only magma (which has never been demonstrated to exist under the Earth).

Round Earth models eat themselves! Only FET is internally consistent.

how does erosion destroy matter?

It just moves it around it doesn't just disappear

True.
I'd suggest (to the OP) reading about the law of conservation of mass.

I would also suggest the OP learns what happens when tectonic plates move apart.

I would suggest that the OP take steps to remove themselves from the gene pool.

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That raises an interesting question,  how do flat earthers explain volcanos  and  while we are talking about tectonic plate movement how do they explain the seismic records of earthquakes that show the earth is spherical.

To elaborate,  the propagation times for seismic waves from earthquakes to reach different recording stations proves the earth is spherical.   Just one more nail in the Flat Earth coffin.

What was that about being hoist by his own petard.

Okay, demonic round earthers believe the world is broken into plates (but somehow hasn't exploded into tiny pieces yet). Assuming this true, we run into a big problem. IF plates existed, they would all have eroded by now via erosion, leaving no Earth, only magma (which has never been demonstrated to exist under the Earth).

Round Earth models eat themselves! Only FET is internally consistent.

Volcanos and Earth Quakes prove that magma and tectonic plates are real.  Earth is not magma because whenever a plate erodes/melts magma cools to make more rock (which mostly happens at the oceanic ridges).  The Earth doesn't blow it's self apart for the same reason you don't float off the ground: Gravity.

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 10, 2015, 04:12:07 PM

Okay, demonic round earthers believe the world is broken into plates (but somehow hasn't exploded into tiny pieces yet). Assuming this true, we run into a big problem. IF plates existed, they would all have eroded by now via erosion, leaving no Earth, only magma (which has never been demonstrated to exist under the Earth).

Round Earth models eat themselves! Only FET is internally consistent.

Volcanos and Earth Quakes prove that magma and tectonic plates are real.  Earth is not magma because whenever a plate erodes/melts magma cools to make more rock (which mostly happens at the oceanic ridges).  The Earth doesn't blow it's self apart for the same reason you don't float off the ground: Gravity.

Prove gravity is real.

Try to be more original and entertaining in your trolling. Itchy was better than this, and he was crap.

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Quote from: trueflatearther on May 10, 2015, 04:12:07 PM

Okay, demonic round earthers believe the world is broken into plates (but somehow hasn't exploded into tiny pieces yet). Assuming this true, we run into a big problem. IF plates existed, they would all have eroded by now via erosion, leaving no Earth, only magma (which has never been demonstrated to exist under the Earth).

Round Earth models eat themselves! Only FET is internally consistent.

Volcanos and Earth Quakes prove that magma and tectonic plates are real.  Earth is not magma because whenever a plate erodes/melts magma cools to make more rock (which mostly happens at the oceanic ridges).  The Earth doesn't blow it's self apart for the same reason you don't float off the ground: Gravity.

Prove gravity is real.

Drop a rock on your head, preferably a large one. There, gravity is real.

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 11, 2015, 04:34:09 AM

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Quote from: trueflatearther on May 10, 2015, 04:12:07 PM

Okay, demonic round earthers believe the world is broken into plates (but somehow hasn't exploded into tiny pieces yet). Assuming this true, we run into a big problem. IF plates existed, they would all have eroded by now via erosion, leaving no Earth, only magma (which has never been demonstrated to exist under the Earth).

Round Earth models eat themselves! Only FET is internally consistent.

Volcanos and Earth Quakes prove that magma and tectonic plates are real.  Earth is not magma because whenever a plate erodes/melts magma cools to make more rock (which mostly happens at the oceanic ridges).  The Earth doesn't blow it's self apart for the same reason you don't float off the ground: Gravity.

Prove gravity is real.

Drop a rock on your head, preferably a large one. There, gravity is real.

i will be more specific for trolls. prove the theory of gravity true.

i will be more specific for trolls. prove the theory of gravity true.

Which one, Mr. Troll. Einstein's? Newton's?

Prove gravity is real.

The Cavendish Experiment was an experiment where gravity was measured between 2 masses and it is easy enough to repeat that there have been schools which do it as a gravity demonstration to students.

Gravity is slightly different depending on altitude, longitude, and the density of the ground beneath you.  These changes can be predicted asuming a round Earth with gravity and measuring the gravity caused by dense ore veins is commonly used to find ore.

The Moon has gravity which causes tides, even flat Earthers have admitted that the Moon has to have gravity for tides to work.

Now do you have any evidence that gravity is not real?  The burden of proof is on you.

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Quote from: trueflatearther on May 10, 2015, 04:12:07 PM

Okay, demonic round earthers believe the world is broken into plates (but somehow hasn't exploded into tiny pieces yet). Assuming this true, we run into a big problem. IF plates existed, they would all have eroded by now via erosion, leaving no Earth, only magma (which has never been demonstrated to exist under the Earth).

Round Earth models eat themselves! Only FET is internally consistent.

Volcanos and Earth Quakes prove that magma and tectonic plates are real.  Earth is not magma because whenever a plate erodes/melts magma cools to make more rock (which mostly happens at the oceanic ridges).  The Earth doesn't blow it's self apart for the same reason you don't float off the ground: Gravity.

Prove gravity is real.

Jump off the highest building you can find. If you float, gravity is not real.

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 11, 2015, 04:34:09 AM

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Quote from: trueflatearther on May 10, 2015, 04:12:07 PM

Okay, demonic round earthers believe the world is broken into plates (but somehow hasn't exploded into tiny pieces yet). Assuming this true, we run into a big problem. IF plates existed, they would all have eroded by now via erosion, leaving no Earth, only magma (which has never been demonstrated to exist under the Earth).

Round Earth models eat themselves! Only FET is internally consistent.

Volcanos and Earth Quakes prove that magma and tectonic plates are real.  Earth is not magma because whenever a plate erodes/melts magma cools to make more rock (which mostly happens at the oceanic ridges).  The Earth doesn't blow it's self apart for the same reason you don't float off the ground: Gravity.

Prove gravity is real.

Jump off the highest building you can find. If you float, gravity is not real.

Gravity is a purported force. Prove that force exists and we're not just all in free fall.

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Quote from: trueflatearther on May 10, 2015, 04:12:07 PM

Okay, demonic round earthers believe the world is broken into plates (but somehow hasn't exploded into tiny pieces yet). Assuming this true, we run into a big problem. IF plates existed, they would all have eroded by now via erosion, leaving no Earth, only magma (which has never been demonstrated to exist under the Earth).

Round Earth models eat themselves! Only FET is internally consistent.

Volcanos and Earth Quakes prove that magma and tectonic plates are real.  Earth is not magma because whenever a plate erodes/melts magma cools to make more rock (which mostly happens at the oceanic ridges).  The Earth doesn't blow it's self apart for the same reason you don't float off the ground: Gravity.

Prove gravity is real.

Jump off the highest building you can find. If you float, gravity is not real.

Gravity is a purported force. Prove that force exists and we're not just all in free fall.

The force itself is not in question.
The cause of the force is unknown, as is the case with most universal forces.
The UA is a purported solution to this problem.
To deny that the force exists is just absurd.

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Quote from: The Ellimist on May 11, 2015, 06:20:03 PM

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 11, 2015, 04:34:09 AM

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Quote from: trueflatearther on May 10, 2015, 04:12:07 PM

Okay, demonic round earthers believe the world is broken into plates (but somehow hasn't exploded into tiny pieces yet). Assuming this true, we run into a big problem. IF plates existed, they would all have eroded by now via erosion, leaving no Earth, only magma (which has never been demonstrated to exist under the Earth).

Round Earth models eat themselves! Only FET is internally consistent.

Volcanos and Earth Quakes prove that magma and tectonic plates are real.  Earth is not magma because whenever a plate erodes/melts magma cools to make more rock (which mostly happens at the oceanic ridges).  The Earth doesn't blow it's self apart for the same reason you don't float off the ground: Gravity.

Prove gravity is real.

Jump off the highest building you can find. If you float, gravity is not real.

Gravity is a purported force. Prove that force exists and we're not just all in free fall.

The force itself is not in question.
The cause of the force is unknown, as is the case with most universal forces.
The UA is a purported solution to this problem.
To deny that the force exists is just absurd.

Actually, in modern day physics you can deny that gravity is a force. The best explanation we have for it is warped space-time from Einsteins teachings. Particle physicists has yet to find the graviton predicted by string theory equations which will make it part of the 4 predicted fundamental forces of the universe.

For those that don't know, this is why quantum mechanics and our current understanding of gravity Don't talk to each other. Unless the graviton pops into existence long enough to be detectable at these accelerators, the future is looking bleak for a unifying theory.

Basically gravity is just as much as a force as centrifugal force. It all depends on your frame of reference.

To deny that gravity exists however... That is the absurdness in this forum.

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Quote from: trueflatearther on May 10, 2015, 04:12:07 PM

Okay, demonic round earthers believe the world is broken into plates (but somehow hasn't exploded into tiny pieces yet). Assuming this true, we run into a big problem. IF plates existed, they would all have eroded by now via erosion, leaving no Earth, only magma (which has never been demonstrated to exist under the Earth).

Round Earth models eat themselves! Only FET is internally consistent.

Volcanos and Earth Quakes prove that magma and tectonic plates are real.  Earth is not magma because whenever a plate erodes/melts magma cools to make more rock (which mostly happens at the oceanic ridges).  The Earth doesn't blow it's self apart for the same reason you don't float off the ground: Gravity.

Prove gravity is real.

Jump off the highest building you can find. If you float, gravity is not real.

Gravity is a purported force. Prove that force exists and we're not just all in free fall.

The force itself is not in question.
The cause of the force is unknown, as is the case with most universal forces.
The UA is a purported solution to this problem.
To deny that the force exists is just absurd.

Actually, in modern day physics you can deny that gravity is a force. The best explanation we have for it is warped space-time from Einsteins teachings. Particle physicists has yet to find the graviton predicted by string theory equations which will make it part of the 4 predicted fundamental forces of the universe.

For those that don't know, this is why quantum mechanics and our current understanding of gravity Don't talk to each other. Unless the graviton pops into existence long enough to be detectable at these accelerators, the future is looking bleak for a unifying theory.

Basically gravity is just as much as a force as centrifugal force. It all depends on your frame of reference.

To deny that gravity exists however... That is the absurdness in this forum.

You cannot deny that it is a force.
It can be felt, regardless of what it is.

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Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on May 12, 2015, 02:50:41 PM

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 12, 2015, 01:13:45 PM

Quote from: The Ellimist on May 11, 2015, 06:20:03 PM

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 11, 2015, 04:34:09 AM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on May 10, 2015, 09:45:52 PM

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 10, 2015, 04:12:07 PM

Okay, demonic round earthers believe the world is broken into plates (but somehow hasn't exploded into tiny pieces yet). Assuming this true, we run into a big problem. IF plates existed, they would all have eroded by now via erosion, leaving no Earth, only magma (which has never been demonstrated to exist under the Earth).

Round Earth models eat themselves! Only FET is internally consistent.

Volcanos and Earth Quakes prove that magma and tectonic plates are real.  Earth is not magma because whenever a plate erodes/melts magma cools to make more rock (which mostly happens at the oceanic ridges).  The Earth doesn't blow it's self apart for the same reason you don't float off the ground: Gravity.

Prove gravity is real.

Jump off the highest building you can find. If you float, gravity is not real.

Gravity is a purported force. Prove that force exists and we're not just all in free fall.

The force itself is not in question.
The cause of the force is unknown, as is the case with most universal forces.
The UA is a purported solution to this problem.
To deny that the force exists is just absurd.

Actually, in modern day physics you can deny that gravity is a force. The best explanation we have for it is warped space-time from Einsteins teachings. Particle physicists has yet to find the graviton predicted by string theory equations which will make it part of the 4 predicted fundamental forces of the universe.

For those that don't know, this is why quantum mechanics and our current understanding of gravity Don't talk to each other. Unless the graviton pops into existence long enough to be detectable at these accelerators, the future is looking bleak for a unifying theory.

Basically gravity is just as much as a force as centrifugal force. It all depends on your frame of reference.

To deny that gravity exists however... That is the absurdness in this forum.

You cannot deny that it is a force.
It can be felt, regardless of what it is.

Actually it can't be felt.

You might not be able to feel gravity directly, but you can measure it directly.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_experiment 

And you can certainly indirectly feel the effect of gravity.  Try dropping a bowling ball on your foot, to feel the effect the mass of the earth has on the mass of the bowling ball. 

Just to clarify something that always gets confused, mass and weight are not the same thing.
The force between the mass of the earth and the mass of bowling ball is the weight of the bowling ball.   The bowling ball still has the same mass when it's in space,  but it has zero weight.

Just for the sake of completeness,  what is the accepted flat earth version of gravity,  in one place I read it's about different densities  ( which by the way makes no sense ), and in another place I read the flat earth version of gravity is the earth is accelerating upwards at 1g.   Both versions can be easily disproved, but which one is the accepted version.

You might not be able to feel gravity directly, but you can measure it directly.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_experiment 

And you can certainly indirectly feel the effect of gravity.  Try dropping a bowling ball on your foot, to feel the effect the mass of the earth has on the mass of the bowling ball. 

Just to clarify something that always gets confused, mass and weight are not the same thing.
The force between the mass of the earth and the mass of bowling ball is the weight of the bowling ball.   The bowling ball still has the same mass when it's in space,  but it has zero weight.

Just for the sake of completeness,  what is the accepted flat earth version of gravity,  in one place I read it's about different densities  ( which by the way makes no sense ), and in another place I read the flat earth version of gravity is the earth is accelerating upwards at 1g.   Both versions can be easily disproved, but which one is the accepted version.

Actually the accepted version is called "Denpressure" it's where density causes objects such as the Earth to float in aether. IT WAS PROVEN BY ARCHIMEDES FOR FUCKS SAKE.

Actually the accepted version is called "Denpressure" it's where density causes objects such as the Earth to float in aether. IT WAS PROVEN BY ARCHIMEDES FOR FUCKS SAKE.

What do you understand by the word density?

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 12, 2015, 08:26:01 PM

Actually the accepted version is called "Denpressure" it's where density causes objects such as the Earth to float in aether. IT WAS PROVEN BY ARCHIMEDES FOR FUCKS SAKE.

What do you understand by the word density?

People like you!

Quote from: Rayzor on May 12, 2015, 08:30:13 PM

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 12, 2015, 08:26:01 PM

Actually the accepted version is called "Denpressure" it's where density causes objects such as the Earth to float in aether. IT WAS PROVEN BY ARCHIMEDES FOR FUCKS SAKE.

What do you understand by the word density?

People like you!

I had a pretty strong feeling you didn't know,  so let me explain.    density  =  mass / volume.   

If you are in a gravitational field,  then  mass has weight.   That's what causes things to fall.    This is what Newton discovered in the 1600's 

Some flat earth groups realized long ago the stupidity of the denpressure argument,  and proposed universal acceleration instead to explain why things fall. 
That's a better guess, but still wrong.

Ok,  since you probably didn't understand any of that,  you can resume the insults.

Quote from: Rayzor on May 12, 2015, 07:28:20 PM

You might not be able to feel gravity directly, but you can measure it directly.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_experiment 

And you can certainly indirectly feel the effect of gravity.  Try dropping a bowling ball on your foot, to feel the effect the mass of the earth has on the mass of the bowling ball. 

Just to clarify something that always gets confused, mass and weight are not the same thing.
The force between the mass of the earth and the mass of bowling ball is the weight of the bowling ball.   The bowling ball still has the same mass when it's in space,  but it has zero weight.

Just for the sake of completeness,  what is the accepted flat earth version of gravity,  in one place I read it's about different densities  ( which by the way makes no sense ), and in another place I read the flat earth version of gravity is the earth is accelerating upwards at 1g.   Both versions can be easily disproved, but which one is the accepted version.

Actually the accepted version is called "Denpressure" it's where density causes objects such as the Earth to float in aether. IT WAS PROVEN BY ARCHIMEDES FOR FUCKS SAKE.

Citation required.
I'm sure denpressure was invented by scepti.
The UA is more accepted among real flat Earth enthusiasts.

Here you go  " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 12, 2015, 08:47:13 PM

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Quote from: trueflatearther on May 12, 2015, 08:26:01 PM

Actually the accepted version is called "Denpressure" it's where density causes objects such as the Earth to float in aether. IT WAS PROVEN BY ARCHIMEDES FOR FUCKS SAKE.

What do you understand by the word density?

People like you!

I had a pretty strong feeling you didn't know,  so let me explain.    density  =  mass / volume.   

If you are in a gravitational field,  then  mass has weight.   That's what causes things to fall.    This is what Newton discovered in the 1600's 

Some flat earth groups realized long ago the stupidity of the denpressure argument,  and proposed universal acceleration instead to explain why things fall. 
That's a better guess, but still wrong.

Ok,  since you probably didn't understand any of that,  you can resume the insults.

Okay, mr. sarcasm, such mass can be explained by a universally accelarating universe. Check mate.

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Quote from: trueflatearther on May 12, 2015, 08:47:13 PM

Quote from: Rayzor on May 12, 2015, 08:30:13 PM

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 12, 2015, 08:26:01 PM

Actually the accepted version is called "Denpressure" it's where density causes objects such as the Earth to float in aether. IT WAS PROVEN BY ARCHIMEDES FOR FUCKS SAKE.

What do you understand by the word density?

People like you!

I had a pretty strong feeling you didn't know,  so let me explain.    density  =  mass / volume.   

If you are in a gravitational field,  then  mass has weight.   That's what causes things to fall.    This is what Newton discovered in the 1600's 

Some flat earth groups realized long ago the stupidity of the denpressure argument,  and proposed universal acceleration instead to explain why things fall. 
That's a better guess, but still wrong.

Ok,  since you probably didn't understand any of that,  you can resume the insults.

Okay, mr. sarcasm, such mass can be explained by a universally accelarating universe. Check mate.

So, you are just confirming that you don't actually know the difference between mass and weight.   

Homework question for you.  Where does mass come from?

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 12, 2015, 10:24:21 PM

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Quote from: trueflatearther on May 12, 2015, 08:47:13 PM

Quote from: Rayzor on May 12, 2015, 08:30:13 PM

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 12, 2015, 08:26:01 PM

Actually the accepted version is called "Denpressure" it's where density causes objects such as the Earth to float in aether. IT WAS PROVEN BY ARCHIMEDES FOR FUCKS SAKE.

What do you understand by the word density?

People like you!

I had a pretty strong feeling you didn't know,  so let me explain.    density  =  mass / volume.   

If you are in a gravitational field,  then  mass has weight.   That's what causes things to fall.    This is what Newton discovered in the 1600's 

Some flat earth groups realized long ago the stupidity of the denpressure argument,  and proposed universal acceleration instead to explain why things fall. 
That's a better guess, but still wrong.

Ok,  since you probably didn't understand any of that,  you can resume the insults.

Okay, mr. sarcasm, such mass can be explained by a universally accelarating universe. Check mate.

So, you are just confirming that you don't actually know the difference between mass and weight.   

Homework question for you.  Where does mass come from?

Mass is caused by things oscillating in the aether.

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Quote from: Rayzor on May 12, 2015, 09:31:17 PM

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 12, 2015, 08:47:13 PM

Quote from: Rayzor on May 12, 2015, 08:30:13 PM

Quote from: trueflatearther on May 12, 2015, 08:26:01 PM

Actually the accepted version is called "Denpressure" it's where density causes objects such as the Earth to float in aether. IT WAS PROVEN BY ARCHIMEDES FOR FUCKS SAKE.

What do you understand by the word density?

People like you!

I had a pretty strong feeling you didn't know,  so let me explain.    density  =  mass / volume.   

If you are in a gravitational field,  then  mass has weight.   That's what causes things to fall.    This is what Newton discovered in the 1600's 

Some flat earth groups realized long ago the stupidity of the denpressure argument,  and proposed universal acceleration instead to explain why things fall. 
That's a better guess, but still wrong.

Ok,  since you probably didn't understand any of that,  you can resume the insults.

Okay, mr. sarcasm, such mass can be explained by a universally accelarating universe. Check mate.

So, you are just confirming that you don't actually know the difference between mass and weight.   

Homework question for you.  Where does mass come from?

Mass is caused by things oscillating in the aether.

You amaze me, that's almost right.   The currently accepted answer is that the Higgs field provides particles with mass.   The aether doesn't exist, but the Higgs field does.

So take a step back,  where does weight come from.