Why is it so hard to get into space?

The very fact that there is zero proof of anything being in space proves it's self. Mini probe launch, No, but very simple and easy to do.

What are you talking about?  Anyone can literally just see the International Space Station flying overhead with a telescope.

Quote from: ronxyz on November 15, 2015, 03:05:19 PM

The very fact that there is zero proof of anything being in space proves it's self. Mini probe launch, No, but very simple and easy to do.

What are you talking about?  Anyone can literally just see the International Space Station flying overhead with a telescope.

Anyone?  Literally?  Really?  Do you know what literally even means? 

Quote from: mikeman7918 on November 16, 2015, 08:05:35 AM

Quote from: ronxyz on November 15, 2015, 03:05:19 PM

The very fact that there is zero proof of anything being in space proves it's self. Mini probe launch, No, but very simple and easy to do.

What are you talking about?  Anyone can literally just see the International Space Station flying overhead with a telescope.

Anyone?  Literally?  Really?  Do you know what literally even means?

Do you?

lit·er·al·ly
ˈlidərəlē,ˈlitrəlē/
adverb
adverb: literally

    in a literal manner or sense; exactly.
    "the driver took it literally when asked to go straight across the traffic circle"
    synonyms:   exactly, precisely, actually, really, truly; More
    without question, unquestionably, indisputably
    "there are literally 214 colors available"
        informal
        used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true.
        "I have received literally thousands of letters"

Quote from: jroa on November 17, 2015, 04:46:26 PM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on November 16, 2015, 08:05:35 AM

Quote from: ronxyz on November 15, 2015, 03:05:19 PM

The very fact that there is zero proof of anything being in space proves it's self. Mini probe launch, No, but very simple and easy to do.

What are you talking about?  Anyone can literally just see the International Space Station flying overhead with a telescope.

Anyone?  Literally?  Really?  Do you know what literally even means?

Do you?

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lit·er·al·ly
ˈlidərəlē,ˈlitrəlē/
adverb
adverb: literally

    in a literal manner or sense; exactly.
    "the driver took it literally when asked to go straight across the traffic circle"
    synonyms:   exactly, precisely, actually, really, truly; More
    without question, unquestionably, indisputably
    "there are literally 214 colors available"
        informal
        used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true.
        "I have received literally thousands of letters"

Apparently, markjo does not know the meaning of the word either.  This article might be of interest to you and whatever nameless dictionary you got that definition from.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/13/literally-broken-english-language-definition

Apparently jroa doesn't understand that words often take on different meanings when used informally.

Also:

Definition of LITERALLY
1:  in a literal sense or manner :  actually <took the remark literally> <was literally insane>
2:  in effect :  virtually <will literally turn the world upside down to combat cruelty or injustice — Norman Cousins>

Apparently jroa doesn't understand that words often take on different meanings when used informally.

Also:

Quote from: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally

Definition of LITERALLY
1:  in a literal sense or manner :  actually <took the remark literally> <was literally insane>
2:  in effect :  virtually <will literally turn the world upside down to combat cruelty or injustice — Norman Cousins>

How can a word that means something, so exact, be used to mean the opposite?  It even means exact. 

literally
[lit-er-uh-lee]
Spell Syllables
Examples Word Origin
adverb
1.
in the literal or strict sense: She failed to grasp the metaphor and interpreted the poem literally.
What does the word mean literally?
2.
in a literal manner; word for word:
to translate literally.
3.
actually; without exaggeration or inaccuracy:
The city was literally destroyed.

Jroa literally derailed the thread by arguing about the literal meaning of literally ... MIND BLOWN!

How can a word that means something, so exact, be used to mean the opposite?

ITT: jroa literally fails to understand the concept of irony

Quote from: jroa on November 17, 2015, 08:52:50 PM

How can a word that means something, so exact, be used to mean the opposite?

ITT: jroa literally fails to understand the concept of irony

I know what is not ironic in this thread: markjo shitting it up. 

Getting back on topic, xkcd explains the difference between getting into space and staying in space.
https://what-if.xkcd.com/58/

Randall Munroe, the 'talent' behind xkcd, used to work for NASA.

So, no vested interest there eh?

Not really.  xkcd touches on many topics other than space flight.

So what?

He worked for NASA & therefore has a vested interest in supporting their pseudo-science.

Plus he's a shit artist & not funny.

Unless you're an ass-burgered geek.

Or work for NASA.

Which is why you're spamming him, isn't it, JPL pensioner & sock-puppet hoarder markjo?

But enough of your geriatric propaganda; back to how hard it is to get into 'space'...

Cos ISN'T IT?

Even seventy years after the primitive V2 was allegedly doing it all the time, it's still JUST SO EXTRA-SOOPAH-SPECIALLY HARD!!!

Hi Papa Legba

I believe the important thing is we know exactly (in units of measure and in numerical values) how hard it is to get to space. You need a vehicle that can reach a specific velocity at a specific height and can do so even in relative vacuum. Much like you would need a ship or an airplane that has a specific mileage to go to another continent on Earth.

Space is not magic, it does require no special ritual, it's really just another place.

Plus he's a shit artist & not funny.

He might not be the best artist, but he's gotten pretty dang good: https://xkcd.com/1110/

I'm sorry you can't appreciate his humor.

space... hahahah ... lol !
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why is it so hard for people to realize that they are in space ?
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where do they think they are ?
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or do they let other  people decide where they are ?
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is King Nasa their king ?

space... hahahah ... lol !
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why is it so hard for people to realize that they are in space ?
-
where do they think they are ?
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or do they let other  people decide where they are ?
-
is King Nasa their king ?

Yes, the whole Earth is in space. But for practical reasons "space" is 100 km up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n_line

Flight was impossible right up the point when it was not.

Flying from NYC t Paris no stop was impossible until Lucky Lindy did it.

Flying an aircraft without refueling around the Earth was impossible until it was done

A ship as large as an aircraft carrier was impossible a hundred years ago.

Steam power was a fantasy right up until someone figured out how to do it.

Jets were but a dream right up until one worked.

A heart translate was Shelly's Frankenstein less than 60 years ago.

So what makes you think space flight is impossible now, or space elevators impossible in the future?

Why are your "impossibilities" actual impossibilities when everyone before you making the same absolute statements of impossibilities were 100% wrong?