It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship

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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2340 on: August 04, 2015, 12:59:00 PM »
LOL!!!

Sounds like you're getting you're excuses in already...

Because yes, the video is laughably fake; it makes no sense whatsoever from a scientific viewpoint & is clearly a crappily-constructed conjuring trick.

& I will show you how...

Later.

But first, lets talk about Conspiracy.

Rayzor seems to think there's a conspiracy to hide the fact the World is flat...

Lol - crackpot!

No; the only 'conspiracy' I see evidence for is Conspiracy to Defraud.

This is a very real phenomenon, & also a very serious crime.

Moreover, by promoting & encouraging it - i.e. asking people to waste their time & money by buying telescopes to watch a fake space station, or going to see fake rocket launches - you cultists are actively aiding & abetting this fraud & are thus Accessories to a Crime.

Which is also a very serious offence.

Just fyi...

But at least it gives me a new epiphet to add to my usual Liars, Sock-users, Cultists, Idiots, Schills, Scmucks, Herberts, etc...

CRIMINALS!

LOL!!!

Anyway; back to your video...

We shall discuss it at length; my first question, though, is simple: How can an object be glowing white-hot yet not burn what it touches?

White-heat is white-heat, after all; so if the insulation was really such a poor heat-conductor as claimed it would not glow white-hot at all...

Yet it does!

Do you really see no contradictions here?

Well no; of course you don't - after all, you're not allowed to, are you?

But watching you try to explain it will be LOL...

Cos Criminals say the funniest things!
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2341 on: August 04, 2015, 01:56:04 PM »
LOL!!!

Sounds like you're getting you're excuses in already...

Because yes, the video is laughably fake; it makes no sense whatsoever from a scientific viewpoint & is clearly a crappily-constructed conjuring trick.

& I will show you how...

Later.

But first, lets talk about Conspiracy.

Rayzor seems to think there's a conspiracy to hide the fact the World is flat...

Lol - crackpot!

No; the only 'conspiracy' I see evidence for is Conspiracy to Defraud.

This is a very real phenomenon, & also a very serious crime.

Moreover, by promoting & encouraging it - i.e. asking people to waste their time & money by buying telescopes to watch a fake space station, or going to see fake rocket launches - you cultists are actively aiding & abetting this fraud & are thus Accessories to a Crime.

Which is also a very serious offence.

Just fyi...

But at least it gives me a new epiphet to add to my usual Liars, Sock-users, Cultists, Idiots, Schills, Scmucks, Herberts, etc...

CRIMINALS!

LOL!!!

Anyway; back to your video...

We shall discuss it at length; my first question, though, is simple: How can an object be glowing white-hot yet not burn what it touches?

White-heat is white-heat, after all; so if the insulation was really such a poor heat-conductor as claimed it would not glow white-hot at all...

Yet it does!

Do you really see no contradictions here?

Well no; of course you don't - after all, you're not allowed to, are you?

But watching you try to explain it will be LOL...

Cos Criminals say the funniest things!

As you said, it's a bad heat conductor. This is why the heat in the center is not conducted to the outside, which is why it glows. Also, the glowing centers on each side is too hot to touch, which is why they picked them up in the corners. Since the cube was in the furnace for hours, it had hours to conduct heat to it's center and it will take hours to conduct it back to the surface.
Math is the language of the universe.

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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2342 on: August 04, 2015, 02:29:26 PM »
LOL!!!

Criminals really DO say the funniest things!

Magical heat-concentrating cubes...

They just SUCK IT UP inside emselves don't they?

LMAO!!!

You lot just do not care what kinda crap you come out with, do you?

But wait; doesn't the conjuror - sorry, 'scientist' - in the video say they dissipate heat quickly?

If so, then they'd be radiating all that magically sucked-up white-heat back OUTWARDS asap...

Which would DEFINITELY make em hard to hold; in fact it's kinda the opposite of what you claim, isn't it?

Was he LYING?!?

Oh, dear - what a mess!

LOL!!!

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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2343 on: August 04, 2015, 03:23:05 PM »
I see you are back from the Special Olympics.  Did you win any medals?
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2344 on: August 04, 2015, 03:30:24 PM »
LOL!!!

Criminals really DO say the funniest things!

Magical heat-concentrating cubes...

They just SUCK IT UP inside emselves don't they?

LMAO!!!

You lot just do not care what kinda crap you come out with, do you?

But wait; doesn't the conjuror - sorry, 'scientist' - in the video say they dissipate heat quickly?

If so, then they'd be radiating all that magically sucked-up white-heat back OUTWARDS asap...

Which would DEFINITELY make em hard to hold; in fact it's kinda the opposite of what you claim, isn't it?

Was he LYING?!?

Oh, dear - what a mess!

LOL!!!

Read my post this time and you'll see that you asked questions I just answered.

They do dussipate the heat quickly, but there has to be something to transfer it to to begin with. The material in the center can only dissipate it's heat to the rest of the material around it, but because of low conductivity the heat has to dissipate slowly from the center.

Cook up a meatball. You'll notice it's hot inside if you take a bite out of it as soon as it is cooked. Magical heatsucking or just laws of physics? You'll also notice that the surface cools quicker than the inside.
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2345 on: August 04, 2015, 09:13:55 PM »
Anyway; back to your video...

We shall discuss it at length; my first question, though, is simple: How can an object be glowing white-hot yet not burn what it touches?
Very simple.  If you look closely, you should notice that the edges that he was touching were not white hot.  Remember that the tiles are made of about 10% silica fibers and about 90% empty space.  This means that 90% of the edges are empty space which means that the 10% that are silica fibers have a lot of surface area exposed to the air and can cool very quickly compared to the rest of the block that did not have as much surface area exposed to the air.
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2346 on: August 04, 2015, 10:05:06 PM »
LOL!!!

What a mass of self-contradictory gibberish.

Master_b8r managed to say that your magical cubes dissipate heat both quickly AND slowly in one sentence...

Lying sock-puppeteer markjo has a strange grasp of geometry...

Sock-arul demonstrates his usual reality-denial & lack of humour...

LMAO!!!

But hey, as long as it looks like my views are in the minority then Job Done, eh, cultists?

Of course, Criminals will say anything to escape the consequences of their offences; so I expect more such inanities to pile up when we return to this matter.

But some of us have real jobs to go to; so ta-ra for now, Fraudulent Liars.
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2347 on: August 05, 2015, 03:01:34 AM »
So why aren't the tiles under the shuttle, white like these blocks are?
Are the people in that video supposed to be members of the public on a little tour of the labs?
I mean simply saying " oh,  make sure you just grab the ends." ....Nahhhhhhhh.

Something's not right about this video. I mean why heat them in an oven? Shouldn't  they be blasting them with a high powered flame thrower to create a sort of re-entry scenario seeing that's what we are told they are designed for.
So why stick them in some so called oven?

Does anyone know what the black stuff is that they spray the so called tiles with and also, I thought the tiles were ceramic.
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2348 on: August 05, 2015, 03:09:39 AM »
LOL!!!

What a mass of self-contradictory gibberish.

Master_b8r managed to say that your magical cubes dissipate heat both quickly AND slowly in one sentence...

Lying sock-puppeteer markjo has a strange grasp of geometry...

Sock-arul demonstrates his usual reality-denial & lack of humour...

LMAO!!!

But hey, as long as it looks like my views are in the minority then Job Done, eh, cultists?

Of course, Criminals will say anything to escape the consequences of their offences; so I expect more such inanities to pile up when we return to this matter.

But some of us have real jobs to go to; so ta-ra for now, Fraudulent Liars.

It does dissipate heat quickly, but it also conducts heat horribly. The heat in the inside of the cube has to be conducted to the outside in order to dissipate from the whole material. But because of the bad conductivity it takes hours for the inside of the cube to fully conduct all it's heat to the outside where it can dissipate  quickly. Easy enough to understand?
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2349 on: August 05, 2015, 10:36:26 AM »
They do dussipate the heat quickly, but there has to be something to transfer it to to begin with. The material in the center can only dissipate it's heat to the rest of the material around it, but because of low conductivity the heat has to dissipate slowly from the center.

Do I understand absolute nonsense like the drivel you spammed out above, master_b8r?

No; I do not.

Nobody can; because it is Pseudo-scientific Double-speak gibberish.

& also very, very LOL indeed!
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2350 on: August 05, 2015, 10:44:22 AM »
ROFL
LMAO
LOL
You clearly don't understand anything about thermodynamics Papa.
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2351 on: August 05, 2015, 11:27:52 AM »
They do dussipate the heat quickly, but there has to be something to transfer it to to begin with. The material in the center can only dissipate it's heat to the rest of the material around it, but because of low conductivity the heat has to dissipate slowly from the center.

Do I understand absolute nonsense like the drivel you spammed out above, master_b8r?

No; I do not.

Nobody can; because it is Pseudo-scientific Double-speak gibberish.

& also very, very LOL indeed!

You don't understand basic thermodynamics? Then you shouldn't debate it.
Math is the language of the universe.

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We don't speak for reality - we only observe it. An observation can have any cause, but it is still no more than just an observation.

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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2352 on: August 05, 2015, 01:46:40 PM »
LOL!!!

Here we go...

You contradicted yourself, master_b8r.

You said the cubes both DO & DON'T dissipate heat quickly...

In the same sentence, even!

What do the Laws of Thermodynamics have to do with this Fact?

Criminal Liar.

I suggest that the laws of thermodynamics state that if an object is white-hot it will transfer that white-heat to any object it comes into contact with...

Such as a human hand; or a space-shuttle.

You, & NASA, will argue otherwise though; doubtless at great length...

& I will LOL.

Because it will be Untrue.

& your convoluted & dishonest testimony will never change that Fact.

What's more, when I decide to, I will move on to the further evidence of fraud contained in your pathetic parlour-trick of a video...

& you will then react to that, too.

Because, in Newtonian terms, I am the Action on this thread; you cultist rabble are merely the Reaction...

Which should tell any intelligent person exactly what is going on here.

& they, along with myself, will laugh & laugh & laugh again at your utter intellectual corruption...

Now; carry on lying.
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2353 on: August 05, 2015, 01:56:28 PM »
lol

No matter how long your post is.

Or how many times you hit enter.

You are still dumb

lol

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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2354 on: August 05, 2015, 02:00:47 PM »
If I am so dumb, then you would be easily able to refute my points.

Yet you cannot.

Which says it all, butt-hurt little sock-arul...

LOL!!!
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2355 on: August 05, 2015, 02:09:30 PM »
Quote from: Papa Legba
I suggest that the laws of thermodynamics state that if an object is white-hot it will transfer that white-heat to any object it comes into contact with...

Do the edges look white-hot?
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2356 on: August 05, 2015, 02:11:31 PM »
LOL!!!

Here we go...

You contradicted yourself, master_b8r.

You said the cubes both DO & DON'T dissipate heat quickly...

In the same sentence, even!

What do the Laws of Thermodynamics have to do with this Fact?

Criminal Liar.

I suggest that the laws of thermodynamics state that if an object is white-hot it will transfer that white-heat to any object it comes into contact with...

Such as a human hand; or a space-shuttle.

You, & NASA, will argue otherwise though; doubtless at great length...

& I will LOL.

Because it will be Untrue.

& your convoluted & dishonest testimony will never change that Fact.

What's more, when I decide to, I will move on to the further evidence of fraud contained in your pathetic parlour-trick of a video...

& you will then react to that, too.

Because, in Newtonian terms, I am the Action on this thread; you cultist rabble are merely the Reaction...

Which should tell any intelligent person exactly what is going on here.

& they, along with myself, will laugh & laugh & laugh again at your utter intellectual corruption...

Now; carry on lying.

Laws of thermodynamics cover stuff like heat. Since you didn't know this and don't know anything about thermodynamics your unsupported claims are invalid.
Math is the language of the universe.

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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2357 on: August 05, 2015, 02:12:30 PM »
Papa,

The cubes are incredibly poor conductors of heat. This means it takes a long time for heat to flow from one part of the cube to another. However, any heat that has made it to the surface of the cube will then be transferred to the surrounding air very quickly, as the heat capacity of the cube is very low.

You need to understand that these are two different processes. Conduction of heat through a highly insulating material and then the transfer of the low density heat to the air.
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2358 on: August 05, 2015, 02:22:53 PM »
YOU need to understand that ANY object that is white-hot - ESPECIALLY one that is claimed to dissipate heat very quickly  - WILL transfer that heat to ANY OTHER object touching it, idiot.

What is WRONG with you?

Your video is clearly & laughably fraudulent.

So stop lying, criminal.

& LOL!!!
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2359 on: August 05, 2015, 02:40:41 PM »
I have a degree in Chemical Enginneering and know more about thermodynamics than you can possibly imagine.

However, let's use an example that you might understand. Put a stew in the oven in a big casserole dish. Let it heat up to over 200oC. Then take it out of the oven using oven gloves. Did you burn your hands? No. That's because oven gloves conduct heat very slowly and therefore the amount of energy transferred to your hands to heat them up is very low.

It is exactly the same process with the blocks. The inside may be white hot but that heat can't escape and therefore cannot be transferred to your hand when you pick it up.
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2360 on: August 05, 2015, 02:52:10 PM »
You are a liar & a criminal so knock off the bullshit.

You all agree the cubes are white-hot.

You all agree the cubes dissipate heat very fast.

Yet you do not agree that the cubes would therefore transfer that white-heat to bare human skin?

(oven gloves? & stew? LOL!!!)

You are all insane & do not understand even the most basic science.

But then again, you're not paid to, are you?

LMAO - at YOU!!!
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2361 on: August 05, 2015, 02:55:49 PM »
You are a liar & a criminal so knock off the bullshit.

You all agree the cubes are white-hot.

You all agree the cubes dissipate heat very fast.

Yet you do not agree that the cubes would therefore transfer that white-heat to bare human skin?

(oven gloves? & stew? LOL!!!)

You are all insane & do not understand even the most basic science.

But then again, you're not paid to, are you?

LMAO - at YOU!!!

Do the corners of the cube glow?
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2362 on: August 05, 2015, 10:05:20 PM »
Do you Lie, Backtrack, Bluff, Evade, Divert, Derail & Deny in every arrogant, barely-literate post you pinch out?

Why yes; yes you do!

LOL!!!

Your best bet would've been to simply agree that the NASA conjuror in the video was wrong when he said the tiles dissipate heat very fast.

But as your are clearly programmed to never admit NASA are wrong about anything, ever, you did not...

Thus ensuring lulz for all.

Anyhow; time for me to go to work.

You lot stay here spreading criminal disinfo; we'll reconvene later for more fun.

Toodle-pip, cultists!
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2363 on: August 06, 2015, 12:08:39 AM »
Papa,

Please could you explain your understanding of the following terms and then apply them correctly to the heated tile in question to explain what is happening:

Heat transfer by radiation
Heat transfer by conduction
Heat transfer by convection
Black body radiation
Coefficient of thermal conductivity
Heat capacity

If you can't I'll be happy to provide a lesson.
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2364 on: August 06, 2015, 01:35:54 PM »
Mainframes: Can you explain, simply, how a cube that is heated to 1200C & is made of material that dissipates heat very quickly does not burn any human skin it contacts?

No; you can not.

Because it is impossible.

So, again, knock off the evasive bullshit...

Cos I'm neither buying nor biting.

But I am LOL-ing...

Thus: LMFAO - at criminal cultist YOU!!!
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2365 on: August 06, 2015, 01:52:42 PM »
Papa Legba's hate for science and learning never ceases to amaze me.
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2366 on: August 06, 2015, 01:59:03 PM »
Papa

I'll give you some basic calculations tomorrow to show exactly why you can pick up the cube with your bare hands but tomorrow morning as its late now and I'm tired.
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2367 on: August 06, 2015, 02:11:53 PM »
LOL!!!

Mikeman's back!

& dumb as ever, too...

Is markjo's hand still solidly up your arse?

But what about the master_b8r sock-puppet?

Has he outlived his usefulness?

LMAO!!!

Mainframes: you will provide NO 'calculations' for ANYTHING, disinfo-merchant.

You will instead provide a SIMPLE explanation for how a cube, heated to 1200C, made of a material that dissipates heat very quickly WILL NOT transfer that heat to any object it contacts.

And that is ALL you will do, criminal liar.

ANY other response will be DISMISSED.

Enough of your pseudo-science, defrauding cultist crook.

Damn! You people disgust me...

But you also make me laugh.

Thus: ROFLMAO - at YOU!!!
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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2368 on: August 06, 2015, 02:20:52 PM »

Mainframes: you will provide NO 'calculations' for ANYTHING, disinfo-merchant.

You will instead provide a SIMPLE explanation for how a cube, heated to 1200C, made of a material that dissipates heat very quickly WILL NOT transfer that heat to any object it contacts.

And that is ALL you will do, criminal liar.

ANY other response will be DISMISSED.

lol.  you think calculations aren't simple.

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Re: It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship
« Reply #2369 on: August 06, 2015, 02:25:14 PM »
While we wait for the software-assisted military-managed disinfo personae to co-ordinate their criminal response, let's enjoy poko's markjo-themed fan-fiction yet again...

markjo: Humans have little rocks in their mouths called teeth.

Papa: LOL! tiny rocks in your mouths, that's a good one. Keep up your cultist lies!

markjo: Well, teeth are clearly visible, all you have to do it look.

Papa: How can I look in my own mouth, idiot? You people are so deluded that you think you can look inside your own mouths!

markjo: You can have somebody else look in your mouth an confirm that your teeth are there.

Papa: anybody who says they have seen another person's teeth are just deluded. They have been brainwashed since birth that teeth exist, so they lie to themselves. Teeth are a conspiracy by Big Dental to sell toothbrushes.

markjo: You can see your own teeth if you open your mouth and look in a mirror.

Papa: Mirrors reflect images, dumbass! No image from a mirror will ever be trustworthy because the image will be flipped! You idiots are so deluded that you think we have rocks in our mouths! If we had rocks in our mouths, why aren't we shitting out rocks all the time?

markjo: *headdesk*


LULZ!!!

P.s. nouveau sock-puppet 'MikDaTv'; No - I think YOU are simple.
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