Hillary for President!

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Scroto Gaggins

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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2015, 05:37:14 AM »
It's a very affectionate term Aussies use to refer to their old colonial masters. Like Limey.

The amount of affection can depend on a variety of factors.

eg. If England has the ashes; Pom is a swear word.
If australia has the ashes; Pom is a term of affection.

And you are still our colonial masters, right? Don't leave us! Please!
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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2015, 05:38:23 AM »
It's a very affectionate term Aussies use to refer to their old colonial masters. Like Limey.

I see. So, an Englishman who wants to eliminate the Monarch, but wants a President who would serve about the same purpose. That honestly doesn't make much sense. I mean, if you want an elected President, it seems illogical to have the Head of State serve no purpose. I just don't get it.

I don't care much who is US president, I'm not American. I would rather not have another Bush though for the sake of world peace.

Germany has an elected president, but the power lies with the Chancellor, it works well.

I would just rather an elected person, someone most of the country respects so probably not a politician, fill the constitutional role currently occupied by the queen. Of course, there would be nothing stopping Elizabeth, or Charles, or William standing for election!
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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2015, 05:41:22 AM »
It's a very affectionate term Aussies use to refer to their old colonial masters. Like Limey.

The amount of affection can depend on a variety of factors.

eg. If England has the ashes; Pom is a swear word.
If australia has the ashes; Pom is a term of affection

So it's pretty much always a term of affection then  ;D. Certainly for the foreseeable future  :'(.
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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2015, 06:14:25 AM »
It's a very affectionate term Aussies use to refer to their old colonial masters. Like Limey.

I see. So, an Englishman who wants to eliminate the Monarch, but wants a President who would serve about the same purpose. That honestly doesn't make much sense. I mean, if you want an elected President, it seems illogical to have the Head of State serve no purpose. I just don't get it.

I don't care much who is US president, I'm not American. I would rather not have another Bush though for the sake of world peace.

Germany has an elected president, but the power lies with the Chancellor, it works well.

I would just rather an elected person, someone most of the country respects so probably not a politician, fill the constitutional role currently occupied by the queen. Of course, there would be nothing stopping Elizabeth, or Charles, or William standing for election!

Well, that's true insofar as it goes. Personally, I am a monarchist, in the British sense of the word. If Frederick III had lived longer (he was Emperor for 99 days between the death of Wilhelm I and Wilhelm II), Germany probably would have an Emperor very much like the UK's Queen, as he was a staunch admirer of the UK system. But he assumed the throne when he already had inoperable cancer of the throat. WWI would probably have been avoided altogether, and thus the 20th Century would have played out very differently than it did.

Certainly the House of Hohenzollern wouldn't mind seeing some changes, but it's unlikely at this point that there ever will be any. Its a shame, too. I think monarchies can be good for countries in many ways, in terms of keeping people connected with their history. If Germany had become a constitutional monarchy, it is likely that Austria would have done the same, but things would have gone differently there.

Because of the multi-national, multi-lingual, multi-ethnic, and multi-confessional nature of that State, things would have probably come to a head there just as they did, but later than they did, and things could probably have been contained, and not exploded into a world war. Peace might even have won out in the end. It would have been interesting to observe.

Due to the fact that all these people were related through Victoria and her son Edward VII, a constitutional monarchy in both the UK and Germany might have been enough to tip the balance in favour of one in Austria-Hungary and in Russia. In fact, Austria-Hungary might even have gotten a civilised divorce from each other, with the Empire breaking up into constituent parts. How that would have played out in the Balkans, I don't know. That might have led to the Balkans being a disaster just as they always have been.
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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2015, 10:57:19 AM »
Yaakov, just name one Democrat you wouldn't pull up a mountain of crap on saying they weren't fit to be President.

Go from Nixon to Reagan to Bush Sr to W. Bush and we can bring up a similar list of items that can be blown up into what ever the teller wants. :P

OT, I think she will be fine as President, with how divided our Congress is and how screwed the political system no one can really get much done that changes the fabric of American society except the Supreme Court Justices.

Which is funny since the average American can at best name one.
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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2015, 11:53:51 AM »
Yaakov, just name one Democrat you wouldn't pull up a mountain of crap on saying they weren't fit to be President.

Go from Nixon to Reagan to Bush Sr to W. Bush and we can bring up a similar list of items that can be blown up into what ever the teller wants. :P

OT, I think she will be fine as President, with how divided our Congress is and how screwed the political system no one can really get much done that changes the fabric of American society except the Supreme Court Justices.

Which is funny since the average American can at best name one.

That is a problem for US politics isn't it, things just get stuck if the executive and house are of different persuasions. In the UK the PM leads the party or coalition with a house majority, so they almost always get their bills through.
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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2015, 12:26:30 PM »
Yaakov, just name one Democrat you wouldn't pull up a mountain of crap on saying they weren't fit to be President.

Go from Nixon to Reagan to Bush Sr to W. Bush and we can bring up a similar list of items that can be blown up into what ever the teller wants. :P

OT, I think she will be fine as President, with how divided our Congress is and how screwed the political system no one can really get much done that changes the fabric of American society except the Supreme Court Justices.

Which is funny since the average American can at best name one.

That is a problem for US politics isn't it, things just get stuck if the executive and house are of different persuasions. In the UK the PM leads the party or coalition with a house majority, so they almost always get their bills through.

Yep, I think a parliamentary system is superior to our congress. Or in the least a more than 2 party system. Anything that requires actual compromise, since non-compromise is a valid political tactic for getting the sitting party thrown out.
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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2015, 12:36:21 PM »
Aside from the fact that she was fired in the 1970's by a fellow Democrat for being a liar and a thief?
This isn't true at all:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp

The "fellow democrat" in question wasn't even her boss, and his story has changed more times than the wind.  She was never even fired.

I'm no fan of Clinton, but there is no need to spread this bollocks around.
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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2015, 12:39:04 PM »
Aside from the fact that she was fired in the 1970's by a fellow Democrat for being a liar and a thief?
This isn't true at all:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp

The "fellow democrat" in question wasn't even her boss, and his story has changed more times than the wind.  She was never even fired.

I'm no fan of Clinton, but there is no need to spread this bollocks around.

I'm surprised he hasn't brought up that rumor that the Clintons had a bunch of people murdered while they were still in Arkansas.
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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2015, 12:40:18 PM »
I do like the idea she could have "exonerated" Tricky Dicky - he was as bent as they come.  No republican wanted him exonerated - he would have been electoral poison.
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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2015, 03:39:19 PM »
Actually, Jim Webb is a man I would even consider voting for, Democrat or not. I want to know more about him first, but he seems decent at first blush. And yes, I have heard a lot about "the murders committed when Bill was Governor of Arkansas." I don't put much stock in it myself.

Nixon was no more or less guilty of anything than anyone else. He didn't want to turn over the Watergate tapes, but did, Hillary won't turn over her e-mails. Makes me wonder if she will be required to.

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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2015, 05:03:18 PM »
It's a very affectionate term Aussies use to refer to their old colonial masters. Like Limey.

The amount of affection can depend on a variety of factors.

eg. If England has the ashes; Pom is a swear word.
If australia has the ashes; Pom is a term of affection

So it's pretty much always a term of affection then  ;D. Certainly for the foreseeable future  :'(.
Sir, there was a line. You crossed it. That is way below the belt.
England does have a habit of choking, though.
FIFA world cup, Cricket world cup etc.
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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2015, 08:53:38 AM »
Hillary Clinton is a soulless communist elitist.  She is awful.

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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2015, 08:17:04 AM »
Hillary Clinton is a soulless communist elitist.  She is awful.
I'm sure she is souless and elitist, but communist?   ::)

It seems the word communist seems to mean something completely different to certain people in the US than it means to everyone else throughout the last 100 years.

In most Western countries her politics would be labeled "center right conservative".  Here's a communist:

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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2015, 12:14:27 PM »
I was a Democrat up until just three weeks ago, and up until a few months ago, I was a Communist, a card carrying member, quite literally, although I was registered as a Democrat for purposes of voting. I still actually agree with much of what Marx said in theory. I just don't think it works in the real world much. As for the Ideal State, refer to the thread on that subject for my ideas there.

From hard core left to hard core right. What a typical development. Guys like that would never try the middle.

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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2015, 04:48:21 PM »
Democrat or Republican, neither. I want in this country things that would require the Government not to be controlled by the industries. Where's the party for that?
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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2015, 06:28:51 PM »
Democrat or Republican, neither. I want in this country things that would require the Government not to be controlled by the industries. Where's the party for that?

Green Party or Bernie Sanders.
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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2015, 03:19:15 AM »
Democrat or Republican, neither. I want in this country things that would require the Government not to be controlled by the industries. Where's the party for that?

Green Party or Bernie Sanders.
Move to Canada perhaps?
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Re: Hillary for President!
« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2015, 08:43:02 AM »
Democrat or Republican, neither. I want in this country things that would require the Government not to be controlled by the industries. Where's the party for that?
That would be one of the parties that the media mentions perhaps once or twice before jumping on the rep/dem bandwagon.

I wish Condoleezza Rice would run for president.