The Flat Truth

2. Water cannot have a bend. If you would like to bring gravity in to play here, well then you can disprove gravity in this way as well. Two birds with one stone. If my glass of water is "flat" and a bucket of water is "flat" and a ten foot trough of water is "flat" well you can go from there.

Ship 2, 8x mag. 1m alt.

Ships Below the Horizon by max_wedge, on Flickr

Ship 2, 8x mag. 12m alt.

Ships Below the Horizon by max_wedge, on Flickr

Quote from: jeranism on April 09, 2015, 04:39:24 PM

2. Water cannot have a bend. If you would like to bring gravity in to play here, well then you can disprove gravity in this way as well. Two birds with one stone. If my glass of water is "flat" and a bucket of water is "flat" and a ten foot trough of water is "flat" well you can go from there.

Can you calculate how much curvature there would be in a bucket of water?  Let us know if there should be enough to see if you work it out.

Here are some pictures I took from two different elevations showing a hillside and bridge sinking behind the 'hill' of water with a layer of cooler air over the water causing a mirage effect that refracts the light downward, allowing objects that should be hidden to remain visible.  9 miles to the bridge, and 12 to the hillside.



Here are some pictures of a ship beyond that 'hill' of water.

Quote from: pitdroidtech on September 17, 2011, 11:25:34 AM

Ship 2, 8x mag. 1m alt.

Ships Below the Horizon by max_wedge, on Flickr

Ship 2, 8x mag. 12m alt.

Ships Below the Horizon by max_wedge, on Flickr

Quote from: jeranism on April 13, 2015, 01:14:06 AM

Fantastic...

Okay first.  Can you help me understand the magic ball better. I know what we were all taught in school but I no longer just accept things said to me by authority figures or people who have been caught lying or not performing in a way that would lead one to find them credible.

So, I am in North America and I am standing upright. Measurable. So, can you help me understand what is going on in Australia please? Are they standing upright? Or are they upside down?

----Before you answer... please do not use the standard answer of asking me if I understand that there is no up or down in space. That is not a true statement. I do understand the notion that they could easily be reversed. Polaris could be the South star. I get that totally... but there is obviously an up and down in space. The North star always is above the North Pole so for this question, that must remain true. Again, I ask what is going on then in Australia if I am upright. The North star is then under the feet of an Australian?

If you define up as the direction of Polaris then in North America you are standing on a steep incline and the only time when up is the direction of Polaris is when you are standing on the North Pole.  Up and down are just human inventions which don't actually exist.  Down is defined as the direction of the center of the Earth and up is the opposite of that.

Jeranism, your model which "works better in real life" fails to explain sunsets, southern constellations, objects going beneath the horizon when you get further away, the constant angular distance between stars, eclipses, why everyone always sees the same side of the Moon from everywhere in the world, why I can't see Mount Everest from here, sunsets, why I can see the International Space Station in the sky and make out it's shape with a telescope, seasons, the constant angular size of the Sun and Moon, sunsets, the results to the experiment linked in my forum signature, how GPS works, why gravity can be measured in labs, what the other planets are, and did I mention sunsets?  Round Earth fact has an explenation for all of these things which flat Earth theory fails at.  Now it's your turn, name one thing that makes sense on a flat Earth but not on a round Earth

Quote from: Googleotomy on April 12, 2015, 09:54:38 PM

I do believe iWitness has once more slipped out on us . That is pretty stupid in itself ?

And it is my astute observation that IMHO it is iWitness who needs to Quote "Get a freaking life." Unquote (From iWitness himself)

Look, I know you're secretly in love with me... it's obvious. When you work long hours as a shill, it's not uncommon for your mind to play tricks on you. Sure, you've been given orders to harass me, find out everything you can, but let me tell you something... you will be defeated in the end. If not by me, then by the Word of the Lord that will burn you like straw on the day of His Coming.

Do you see me chasing Round-earthers around and harassing them with private messages and replying to all of their posts? Of course not, because I stand firm in my beliefs and know the Truth. I post my thoughts out there for those that are interested, and if they have questions I will answer them.

Don't take it personal. I have a purpose to fulfill on this earth. Half of it is on the internet debating the likes of you, and the other half is going out into the world and spreading the Gospel among the lost sheep.

I am really sorry that you are in the situation that you are in. Either by choice or by force. Because there is no way you can be here on this site for as long as you have, and still be blind to the truth. But when you realize that He who lives in you is greater than he who lives in the world, you will have nothing to fear.

God's Wrath Against Humanity

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The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Quote from: iWitness on April 13, 2015, 08:19:12 AM

Quote from: Googleotomy on April 12, 2015, 09:54:38 PM

I do believe iWitness has once more slipped out on us . That is pretty stupid in itself ?

And it is my astute observation that IMHO it is iWitness who needs to Quote "Get a freaking life." Unquote (From iWitness himself)

Look, I know you're secretly in love with me... it's obvious. When you work long hours as a shill, it's not uncommon for your mind to play tricks on you. Sure, you've been given orders to harass me, find out everything you can, but let me tell you something... you will be defeated in the end. If not by me, then by the Word of the Lord that will burn you like straw on the day of His Coming.

Do you see me chasing Round-earthers around and harassing them with private messages and replying to all of their posts? Of course not, because I stand firm in my beliefs and know the Truth. I post my thoughts out there for those that are interested, and if they have questions I will answer them.

Don't take it personal. I have a purpose to fulfill on this earth. Half of it is on the internet debating the likes of you, and the other half is going out into the world and spreading the Gospel among the lost sheep.

I am really sorry that you are in the situation that you are in. Either by choice or by force. Because there is no way you can be here on this site for as long as you have, and still be blind to the truth. But when you realize that He who lives in you is greater than he who lives in the world, you will have nothing to fear.

God's Wrath Against Humanity

Quote

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

You haven't answered any of my questions as to how you know more than the FAA in regard to aviation . Or how you know more than the Cunard company in regard to sea navigation.

Your handlers have had 400 years and the smartest minds to construct bullshit theories. I have had two years. I will get back to you in 2413

"Up and down are just human inventions which don't actually exist.
Down is defined as the direction of the center of the Earth and up is the opposite of that."

You people are laughable and again, I have no desire to prove the flat Earth to people who can't see the problems in their own thinking.  You all think you can explain away problems with the lies science gave us to begin with. See you have to come to flat earth in steps... they go something like this...

1. Go to school, get an education
2. Realize later that lies are taught
3. Challenge those lies. Religion (easy) Wars (easy) Columbus discovers America, pilgrims and Indians give thanks (easy)
4. Realization that NASA is a masonic fraternity full of lies who won't answer questions, doctors images and continues to fake shit daily.
5. The final deep dig... could science itself be a construction of nonsense as well?
6. Realizing facts, erasing beliefs and moving forward to expose the fraud...

I am on number 6, you people stopped at 3.

So, to explain to me things I have already realized are fake, with the fake notions themselves is not too effective.

YOU SAID- up and down are human creations.  Let us think shall we?  Year that up and down were invented or discovered....  Day 1, human 1.  Now, day that gravity was invented or found?  How about it is still in process.

But science needed a way to round all their crap into a ball of trash and they did. Even Tesla knew it... (ever wonder why we didn't  learn his name in school) He said, "Supposing that the bodies act upon the surrounding space causing curving of the same, it appears to my simple mind that the curved spaces must react on the bodies, and producing the opposite effects, straightening out the curves. Since action and reaction are coexistent, it follows that the supposed curvature of space is entirely impossible - But even if it existed it would not explain the motions of the bodies, as observed."

Gravity isn't pulling things to Earth, weight is. We aren't crushed to the ground and pulled to the center of the Earth. I can jump, can't you?  Why hasn't the moon fallen into the Earth?

Gravity can not exist, period and you proved it.  How can two people be in opposite positions at the same time? I know gravity right? Logical fallacy boys. Or test it. Show me a camera of someone in Australia and someone here in America at the same time from the position that shows them upside down. If we are both right side up (we will be, try facetime) then it is easy to see that the Earth is flat.

You laugh at religion for their dogma and beliefs and yet believe that gravity is ruled by chance and is chaotic. It cannot be observed or measured or filmed. How are all items (according to you) like stars, planets, and moons round? How did "blind" gravity make them?

Gravity is a great force which exists everywhere in the universe and we cannot resist it. If gravity is the attraction of two bodies of matter to each other, then explain why there is no attraction between small and large things, such as a car being pulled toward a hill? You need to decide how your damn magic works anyway. You can't keep changing it per application. Is gravity the attraction of bodies of matter, or a force that pulls matter toward the center of the Earth? Choose one please.

Despite what your handlers tell you, Gravity is not a fact, but is instead JUST A THEORY! Gravity has NEVER been proven.  All we know is that things fall towards the earth, but not why.  The theory taught in schools is that large amounts of mass attracts smaller amounts of mass.  But it has never been proven.

TScience, fighting the church, needed a concept within their own set parameters that acted on mass.  There needs to be substance, at least something measurable to account for this force of nature.  And so enter, Gravitons and Gravity waves.  Although widely accepted as a scientific explanation, neither of them have been found or measured in any way. You parrot this force, making fun of up and down as human inventions yet literally accept gravity as fact with no evidence for the theory. What is gravity, really? Gravity is responsible for so many things on our planet and in our solar system, right?  Responsible for the formation of planets, planetary orbits, the weight of objects, and even tides of the ocean. So have we measured it in Mars? Jupiter?  The sun? Then, real quick, if larger masses attracts smaller masses, then how can particles, attract particles?  They are of roughly equal size, right?  If it works on that scale, shouldn't then little grains of sand be attracted to one another?  Remember planets were born from these small attractions, yet somehow weakens as they become larger?  Such as forming sand in this simple case.  But then returns again when it comes to planetary orbits? 

Ready to cry globe trotters, science made up mathematics in order to make their theories fit.  No scientific method. Just dogma.

You are proving the Earth is round by using an untestable theory. Bravo. I can test mine, and I hate to break it to you.... Earth is flat.

Quote from: mikeman7918 on April 13, 2015, 07:56:32 AM

Quote from: jeranism on April 13, 2015, 01:14:06 AM

Fantastic...

Okay first.  Can you help me understand the magic ball better. I know what we were all taught in school but I no longer just accept things said to me by authority figures or people who have been caught lying or not performing in a way that would lead one to find them credible.

So, I am in North America and I am standing upright. Measurable. So, can you help me understand what is going on in Australia please? Are they standing upright? Or are they upside down?

----Before you answer... please do not use the standard answer of asking me if I understand that there is no up or down in space. That is not a true statement. I do understand the notion that they could easily be reversed. Polaris could be the South star. I get that totally... but there is obviously an up and down in space. The North star always is above the North Pole so for this question, that must remain true. Again, I ask what is going on then in Australia if I am upright. The North star is then under the feet of an Australian?

If you define up as the direction of Polaris then in North America you are standing on a steep incline and the only time when up is the direction of Polaris is when you are standing on the North Pole.  Up and down are just human inventions which don't actually exist.  Down is defined as the direction of the center of the Earth and up is the opposite of that.

"Up and down are just human inventions which don't actually exist.
Down is defined as the direction of the center of the Earth and up is the opposite of that."

You people are laughable and again, I have no desire to prove the flat Earth to people who can't see the problems in their own thinking.  You all think you can explain away problems with the lies science gave us to begin with. See you have to come to flat earth in steps... they go something like this...

1. Go to school, get an education
2. Realize later that lies are taught
3. Challenge those lies. Religion (easy) Wars (easy) Columbus discovers America, pilgrims and Indians give thanks (easy)
4. Realization that NASA is a masonic fraternity full of lies who won't answer questions, doctors images and continues to fake shit daily.
5. The final deep dig... could science itself be a construction of nonsense as well?
6. Realizing facts, erasing beliefs and moving forward to expose the fraud...

I am on number 6, you people stopped at 3.

So, to explain to me things I have already realized are fake, with the fake notions themselves is not too effective.

YOU SAID- up and down are human creations.  Let us think shall we?  Year that up and down were invented or discovered....  Day 1, human 1.  Now, day that gravity was invented or found?  How about it is still in process.

But science needed a way to round all their crap into a ball of trash and they did. Even Tesla knew it... (ever wonder why we didn't  learn his name in school) He said, "Supposing that the bodies act upon the surrounding space causing curving of the same, it appears to my simple mind that the curved spaces must react on the bodies, and producing the opposite effects, straightening out the curves. Since action and reaction are coexistent, it follows that the supposed curvature of space is entirely impossible - But even if it existed it would not explain the motions of the bodies, as observed."

Gravity isn't pulling things to Earth, weight is. We aren't crushed to the ground and pulled to the center of the Earth. I can jump, can't you?  Why hasn't the moon fallen into the Earth?

Gravity can not exist, period and you proved it.  How can two people be in opposite positions at the same time? I know gravity right? Logical fallacy boys. Or test it. Show me a camera of someone in Australia and someone here in America at the same time from the position that shows them upside down. If we are both right side up (we will be, try facetime) then it is easy to see that the Earth is flat.

You laugh at religion for their dogma and beliefs and yet believe that gravity is ruled by chance and is chaotic. It cannot be observed or measured or filmed. How are all items (according to you) like stars, planets, and moons round? How did "blind" gravity make them?

Gravity is a great force which exists everywhere in the universe and we cannot resist it. If gravity is the attraction of two bodies of matter to each other, then explain why there is no attraction between small and large things, such as a car being pulled toward a hill? You need to decide how your damn magic works anyway. You can't keep changing it per application. Is gravity the attraction of bodies of matter, or a force that pulls matter toward the center of the Earth? Choose one please.

Despite what your handlers tell you, Gravity is not a fact, but is instead JUST A THEORY! Gravity has NEVER been proven.  All we know is that things fall towards the earth, but not why.  The theory taught in schools is that large amounts of mass attracts smaller amounts of mass.  But it has never been proven.

TScience, fighting the church, needed a concept within their own set parameters that acted on mass.  There needs to be substance, at least something measurable to account for this force of nature.  And so enter, Gravitons and Gravity waves.  Although widely accepted as a scientific explanation, neither of them have been found or measured in any way. You parrot this force, making fun of up and down as human inventions yet literally accept gravity as fact with no evidence for the theory. What is gravity, really? Gravity is responsible for so many things on our planet and in our solar system, right?  Responsible for the formation of planets, planetary orbits, the weight of objects, and even tides of the ocean. So have we measured it in Mars? Jupiter?  The sun? Then, real quick, if larger masses attracts smaller masses, then how can particles, attract particles?  They are of roughly equal size, right?  If it works on that scale, shouldn't then little grains of sand be attracted to one another?  Remember planets were born from these small attractions, yet somehow weakens as they become larger?  Such as forming sand in this simple case.  But then returns again when it comes to planetary orbits? 

Ready to cry globe trotters, science made up mathematics in order to make their theories fit.  No scientific method. Just dogma.

You are proving the Earth is round by using an untestable theory. Bravo. I can test mine, and I hate to break it to you.... Earth is flat.

"Up and down are just human inventions which don't actually exist.
Down is defined as the direction of the center of the Earth and up is the opposite of that."

You people are laughable and again, I have no desire to prove the flat Earth to people who can't see the problems in their own thinking.  You all think you can explain away problems with the lies science gave us to begin with. See you have to come to flat earth in steps... they go something like this...

1. Go to school, get an education
2. Realize later that lies are taught
3. Challenge those lies. Religion (easy) Wars (easy) Columbus discovers America, pilgrims and Indians give thanks (easy)

4. Realization that NASA is a masonic fraternity full of lies who won't answer questions, doctors images and continues to fake shit daily.

5. The final deep dig... could science itself be a construction of nonsense as well?

6. Realizing facts, erasing beliefs and moving forward to expose the fraud...

I am on number 6, you people stopped at 3.

So, to explain to me things I have already realized are fake, with the fake notions themselves is not too effective.

YOU SAID- up and down are human creations.  Let us think shall we?  Year that up and down were invented or discovered....  Day 1, human 1.  Now, day that gravity was invented or found?  How about it is still in process.

But science needed a way to round all their crap into a ball of trash and they did. Even Tesla knew it... (ever wonder why we didn't  learn his name in school)

He said, "Supposing that the bodies act upon the surrounding space causing curving of the same, it appears to my simple mind that the curved spaces must react on the bodies, and producing the opposite effects, straightening out the curves. Since action and reaction are coexistent, it follows that the supposed curvature of space is entirely impossible - But even if it existed it would not explain the motions of the bodies, as observed."

Gravity isn't pulling things to Earth, weight is. We aren't crushed to the ground and pulled to the center of the Earth. I can jump, can't you?  Why hasn't the moon fallen into the Earth?

Gravity can not exist, period and you proved it.  How can two people be in opposite positions at the same time? I know gravity right? Logical fallacy boys. Or test it. Show me a camera of someone in Australia and someone here in America at the same time from the position that shows them upside down. If we are both right side up (we will be, try facetime) then it is easy to see that the Earth is flat.

You laugh at religion for their dogma and beliefs and yet believe that gravity is ruled by chance and is chaotic.

It cannot be observed or measured or filmed.

How are all items (according to you) like stars, planets, and moons round? How did "blind" gravity make them?

Gravity is a great force which exists everywhere in the universe and we cannot resist it. If gravity is the attraction of two bodies of matter to each other, then explain why there is no attraction between small and large things, such as a car being pulled toward a hill?

You need to decide how your damn magic works anyway. You can't keep changing it per application. Is gravity the attraction of bodies of matter, or a force that pulls matter toward the center of the Earth? Choose one please.

Despite what your handlers tell you, Gravity is not a fact, but is instead JUST A THEORY! Gravity has NEVER been proven.

All we know is that things fall towards the earth, but not why.  The theory taught in schools is that large amounts of mass attracts smaller amounts of mass.  But it has never been proven.

TScience, fighting the church, needed a concept within their own set parameters that acted on mass.  There needs to be substance, at least something measurable to account for this force of nature.  And so enter, Gravitons and Gravity waves.  Although widely accepted as a scientific explanation, neither of them have been found or measured in any way. You parrot this force, making fun of up and down as human inventions yet literally accept gravity as fact with no evidence for the theory. What is gravity, really? Gravity is responsible for so many things on our planet and in our solar system, right?  Responsible for the formation of planets, planetary orbits, the weight of objects, and even tides of the ocean. So have we measured it in Mars? Jupiter?  The sun?

Then, real quick, if larger masses attracts smaller masses, then how can particles, attract particles?  They are of roughly equal size, right?

If it works on that scale, shouldn't then little grains of sand be attracted to one another?  Remember planets were born from these small attractions, yet somehow weakens as they become larger?  Such as forming sand in this simple case.  But then returns again when it comes to planetary orbits? 

Ready to cry globe trotters, science made up mathematics in order to make their theories fit.  No scientific method. Just dogma.

You are proving the Earth is round by using an untestable theory. Bravo. I can test mine, and I hate to break it to you.... Earth is flat.

Quote from: mikeman7918 on April 13, 2015, 11:59:51 AM

Jeranism, your model which "works better in real life" fails to explain sunsets, southern constellations, objects going beneath the horizon when you get further away, the constant angular distance between stars, eclipses, why everyone always sees the same side of the Moon from everywhere in the world, why I can't see Mount Everest from here, sunsets, why I can see the International Space Station in the sky and make out it's shape with a telescope, seasons, the constant angular size of the Sun and Moon, sunsets, the results to the experiment linked in my forum signature, how GPS works, why gravity can be measured in labs, what the other planets are, and did I mention sunsets?  Round Earth fact has an explenation for all of these things which flat Earth theory fails at.  Now it's your turn, name one thing that makes sense on a flat Earth but not on a round Earth

Your handlers have had 400 years and the smartest minds to construct bullshit theories. I have had two years. I will get back to you in 2413

Quote from: jeranism on April 13, 2015, 12:38:19 PM

Your handlers have had 400 years and the smartest minds to construct bullshit theories. I have had two years. I will get back to you in 2413

Well the "bullsh**" round Earth theories happen to have a lot of math and evidence supporting them while your even more bullsh** theories can't even tell me why the Sun sets.  Sunsets are among the most blindingly obvious not so subtle hints that the Earth is not flat, I don't know how you manage to convince yourself that the Earth is flat after being presented with such definitive evidence.

Gravity isn't pulling things to Earth, weight is.

Gravity can not exist, period and you proved it.  How can two people be in opposite positions at the same time? I know gravity right? Logical fallacy boys. Or test it. Show me a camera of someone in Australia and someone here in America at the same time from the position that shows them upside down. If we are both right side up (we will be, try facetime) then it is easy to see that the Earth is flat.

Quote from: mikeman7918 on April 13, 2015, 02:52:32 PM

Quote from: jeranism on April 13, 2015, 12:38:19 PM

Your handlers have had 400 years and the smartest minds to construct bullshit theories. I have had two years. I will get back to you in 2413

Well the "bullsh**" round Earth theories happen to have a lot of math and evidence supporting them while your even more bullsh** theories can't even tell me why the Sun sets.  Sunsets are among the most blindingly obvious not so subtle hints that the Earth is not flat, I don't know how you manage to convince yourself that the Earth is flat after being presented with such definitive evidence.

If it wasn't for all of those Round Earth Theories , we wouldn't have the Internet or this website.  Can you name anything that has been developed from "flat earth theories." Can you name any valid "flat earth theories" ? Notice I used small letters and quotation marks when referring to "flat earth theories."

One of the great problems for most people is to even think that there are even those who believe, or at least pretend to believe, that the earth is a flat disc shape....And it is even harder for them to think that there are those that "  Manage to convince yourself that  the earth is flat after being presented with such definitive evidence."

Can you name anything thing that has to do with computers that involves round Earth theory (other than your made up satellites)?  That is like saying, "with out sugar, a person can not possibly cook food."  Do you see how ridiculous you make yourself sound?

Quote from: mikeman7918 on April 13, 2015, 11:59:51 AM

Jeranism, your model which "works better in real life" fails to explain sunsets, southern constellations, objects going beneath the horizon when you get further away, the constant angular distance between stars, eclipses, why everyone always sees the same side of the Moon from everywhere in the world, why I can't see Mount Everest from here, sunsets, why I can see the International Space Station in the sky and make out it's shape with a telescope, seasons, the constant angular size of the Sun and Moon, sunsets, the results to the experiment linked in my forum signature, how GPS works, why gravity can be measured in labs, what the other planets are, and did I mention sunsets?  Round Earth fact has an explenation for all of these things which flat Earth theory fails at.  Now it's your turn, name one thing that makes sense on a flat Earth but not on a round Earth

Your handlers have had 400 years and the smartest minds to construct bullshit theories. I have had two years. I will get back to you in 2413

Look-

I will just answer everyone at once because obviously you guys with 5000 posts here must do this for a living. I believe it is called being a troll or a shill. What you are trying to do is discredit the truth with absolute nonsense. Just so you know... I already KNOW the Earth is flat and there is no need for me to explain it to intellectuals. You guys are so smart! Mike said that the images are composite and if that is what I considered doctored images. Mike you want to bet me $10,000 that there is no such thing as space? There is no such thing as a vacuum? You do not know who you are messing with. I am looking for people who are looking for truth, not people who are paid to keep the lie. THE GLOBE IS A LIE and I still don't know if you 100% believe it or are really so fucking stupid that you are posting in this forum daily just so you don't cry. If you really are asking for doctored images then you have not seen my youtube where in my last two videos the following things have been proven.

First I will ask a few questions....

1. Why doesn't the moon fall to Earth? It stays neatly in its orbit. If that is the case, why can't I jump and orbit the Earth?
2. How does a vacuum work if it is connected to Earth? A vacuum must be sealed and if sealed how do we get out there?

My video shows the following https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS_FY5mR4g22L_E9t1D_ExQ

1. Gravity is fictitious. On Earth, we have weight and it is how things work. Drop a rock, and it being more dense than air will fall. A balloon with helium is less dense than air and rises.
2. Relativity is a joke
3. Light Years is a joke
4. Globe Earth cannot exist in reality
5. Copernicus said the Sun was 3,000,000 miles away so his "belief" that we rotated the sun is false.
6. We do not spin
7. The sun and moon (easily measured with sextant) are 3000 miles away and both 32 miles in diameter
8. NASA lies
9. NASA worships the devil, you worship NASA, you worship the Devil.  Hahaha pagan.
10. Space X is fake
11. ISS is fake
12 Space walk is fake
13. Composite images are fake
14. Space is fake
15 Stars are right above us
16. THIS WILL ALL BE MAINSTREAM NEWS BEFORE THE END OF 2015

Quote from: jeranism on April 09, 2015, 04:39:24 PM

2. Water cannot have a bend. If you would like to bring gravity in to play here, well then you can disprove gravity in this way as well. Two birds with one stone. If my glass of water is "flat" and a bucket of water is "flat" and a ten foot trough of water is "flat" well you can go from there.

Can you calculate how much curvature there would be in a bucket of water?  Let us know if there should be enough to see if you work it out.

Here are some pictures I took from two different elevations showing a hillside and bridge sinking behind the 'hill' of water with a layer of cooler air over the water causing a mirage effect that refracts the light downward, allowing objects that should be hidden to remain visible.  9 miles to the bridge, and 12 to the hillside.



Here are some pictures of a ship beyond that 'hill' of water.

Quote from: pitdroidtech on September 17, 2011, 11:25:34 AM

Ship 2, 8x mag. 1m alt.

Ships Below the Horizon by max_wedge, on Flickr

Ship 2, 8x mag. 12m alt.

Ships Below the Horizon by max_wedge, on Flickr

The first photo was taken at 1m alt, the second at 12m. As labelled.

The first photo was taken at 1m alt, the second at 12m. As labelled.

Quote from: Weatherwax on April 17, 2015, 02:59:46 AM

The first photo was taken at 1m alt, the second at 12m. As labelled.

Well those photos  prove the case there is no curvature .

Those photos prove sinking ship is not a product of round earth.

Quote from: tappet on April 17, 2015, 01:41:38 PM

Those photos prove sinking ship is not a product of round earth.

When you are higher up the horizon is further away.