Mars One - The Latest Scam?

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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2015, 02:34:55 PM »
Believers: They need your money. Give as much as you can!
Just like the one on tv claiming the lord needs my money?
yep it all comes down to the prospectus of the product their sellling & whether your buying it. I've never been interested in buying in to any of theses products. I'm happy with the values of the soul I was born with , I'm not interested with their  promising of an upgrade.
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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2015, 02:57:32 PM »
What do you believers in all these space adventures have to say to this:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.872510-Mars-One-Finalist-Its-All-a-Scam:

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I've often said. before they can build a base on the moon, they need to build a self-sustaining colony on the ocean floor. At least a thousand feet down. Yeah I know space and the ocean are two fairly different environments but the methods and problems are comprable. You have to creat a sealed, air tight, pressurized enclosure capoable of withstanding a variety of stresses. Find a way to generate, store and recycle oxygen water and food for the long term, and keep people from going batshit insane for the same period.

It'll be cheaper, easier and less harmful than trying to develop the techniques in space.. for starters there's a whole slew of problems caused be low-micro gravity. Weakening of the bones, heart, muscles and blood vessels for starters.. Then there's the bacteria. Yeah apparently in low gravity, Virii fungi and bacteria basically go super saiyan.. while the human immune system conversely gets a little weaker.

I fully agree with this post. So, why has it never been done???

Edit: I quoted verbatim so there are grammatical, spelling, and other errors.
When people raise money they do something right? They're like "hey will you pledge ten dollars for every mile I run to donate to cancer research?" They're not like hey will you pledge money for me to research cancer on my computer? Or pledge money for every hour I sit at home.

This is a big challenge. Do people want to contribute millions of dollars for people to go live on the bottom of the ocean? No. That's a waste and a stupid idea.

Do people want to contribute money for the first planetary pioneers in history? Yes, that sounds really cool.

What would humanity gain from going to Mars compared with exploring the oceans on Earth? Or digging on land here. Are our origins more likely to be found on Mars???

That is a really stupid idea.
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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2015, 03:10:49 PM »
What do you believers in all these space adventures have to say to this:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.872510-Mars-One-Finalist-Its-All-a-Scam:

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I've often said. before they can build a base on the moon, they need to build a self-sustaining colony on the ocean floor. At least a thousand feet down. Yeah I know space and the ocean are two fairly different environments but the methods and problems are comprable. You have to creat a sealed, air tight, pressurized enclosure capoable of withstanding a variety of stresses. Find a way to generate, store and recycle oxygen water and food for the long term, and keep people from going batshit insane for the same period.

It'll be cheaper, easier and less harmful than trying to develop the techniques in space.. for starters there's a whole slew of problems caused be low-micro gravity. Weakening of the bones, heart, muscles and blood vessels for starters.. Then there's the bacteria. Yeah apparently in low gravity, Virii fungi and bacteria basically go super saiyan.. while the human immune system conversely gets a little weaker.

I fully agree with this post. So, why has it never been done???

Edit: I quoted verbatim so there are grammatical, spelling, and other errors.
When people raise money they do something right? They're like "hey will you pledge ten dollars for every mile I run to donate to cancer research?" They're not like hey will you pledge money for me to research cancer on my computer? Or pledge money for every hour I sit at home.

This is a big challenge. Do people want to contribute millions of dollars for people to go live on the bottom of the ocean? No. That's a waste and a stupid idea.

Do people want to contribute money for the first planetary pioneers in history? Yes, that sounds really cool.
There are people try to survive on bin scrapes & living in card board boxes .  Wasting 2.2 billion  on a  deceptive fraudulent ego trip .What type of crecher are uses ? Your definitely not human . Glorification of such squander is just plain disgusting sickning  behavior.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-04/bransons-space-dream-lives-despite-virgin-galactic-crash/5866338
« Last Edit: March 21, 2015, 03:13:47 PM by charles bloomington »
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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2015, 03:24:08 PM »
What do you believers in all these space adventures have to say to this:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.872510-Mars-One-Finalist-Its-All-a-Scam:

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I've often said. before they can build a base on the moon, they need to build a self-sustaining colony on the ocean floor. At least a thousand feet down. Yeah I know space and the ocean are two fairly different environments but the methods and problems are comprable. You have to creat a sealed, air tight, pressurized enclosure capoable of withstanding a variety of stresses. Find a way to generate, store and recycle oxygen water and food for the long term, and keep people from going batshit insane for the same period.

It'll be cheaper, easier and less harmful than trying to develop the techniques in space.. for starters there's a whole slew of problems caused be low-micro gravity. Weakening of the bones, heart, muscles and blood vessels for starters.. Then there's the bacteria. Yeah apparently in low gravity, Virii fungi and bacteria basically go super saiyan.. while the human immune system conversely gets a little weaker.

I fully agree with this post. So, why has it never been done???

Edit: I quoted verbatim so there are grammatical, spelling, and other errors.
When people raise money they do something right? They're like "hey will you pledge ten dollars for every mile I run to donate to cancer research?" They're not like hey will you pledge money for me to research cancer on my computer? Or pledge money for every hour I sit at home.

This is a big challenge. Do people want to contribute millions of dollars for people to go live on the bottom of the ocean? No. That's a waste and a stupid idea.

Do people want to contribute money for the first planetary pioneers in history? Yes, that sounds really cool.

What would humanity gain from going to Mars compared with exploring the oceans on Earth? Or digging on land here. Are our origins more likely to be found on Mars???

That is a really stupid idea.

And this is how we're different. Space is cool. The bottom of the ocean is just not all that exciting. I would not pay one penny for people to challenge themselves with a trip to the bottom of the ocean. I would pay money for people to go to space.

And Charles Bloomington. There will always be poor people. We can feed them with those billions of dollars, true. But is it sustainable? Will they never starve again? What about their children. Are we meant to always be providing for the poorest people? If so please see Cuba.

there's something about pioneering that people object to. I'm thinking it would be reflective in your lives too. Do you travel? Do you do exciting things? Or do you live in the same town you grew up in or where your parents live? What's your job? Are you learning things all the time? Have you switched jobs in the last decade?

Me, I travel, i don't live where I grew up, I have a relatively new job as a gis cartographer. Came from an architecture background, did carpentry in between.
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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2015, 03:38:18 PM »
What do you believers in all these space adventures have to say to this:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.872510-Mars-One-Finalist-Its-All-a-Scam:

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I've often said. before they can build a base on the moon, they need to build a self-sustaining colony on the ocean floor. At least a thousand feet down. Yeah I know space and the ocean are two fairly different environments but the methods and problems are comprable. You have to creat a sealed, air tight, pressurized enclosure capoable of withstanding a variety of stresses. Find a way to generate, store and recycle oxygen water and food for the long term, and keep people from going batshit insane for the same period.

It'll be cheaper, easier and less harmful than trying to develop the techniques in space.. for starters there's a whole slew of problems caused be low-micro gravity. Weakening of the bones, heart, muscles and blood vessels for starters.. Then there's the bacteria. Yeah apparently in low gravity, Virii fungi and bacteria basically go super saiyan.. while the human immune system conversely gets a little weaker.

I fully agree with this post. So, why has it never been done???

Edit: I quoted verbatim so there are grammatical, spelling, and other errors.
When people raise money they do something right? They're like "hey will you pledge ten dollars for every mile I run to donate to cancer research?" They're not like hey will you pledge money for me to research cancer on my computer? Or pledge money for every hour I sit at home.

This is a big challenge. Do people want to contribute millions of dollars for people to go live on the bottom of the ocean? No. That's a waste and a stupid idea.

Do people want to contribute money for the first planetary pioneers in history? Yes, that sounds really cool.

What would humanity gain from going to Mars compared with exploring the oceans on Earth? Or digging on land here. Are our origins more likely to be found on Mars???

That is a really stupid idea.

And this is how we're different. Space is cool. The bottom of the ocean is just not all that exciting. I would not pay one penny for people to challenge themselves with a trip to the bottom of the ocean. I would pay money for people to go to space.

And Charles Bloomington. There will always be poor people. We can feed them with those billions of dollars, true. But is it sustainable? Will they never starve again? What about their children. Are we meant to always be providing for the poorest people? If so please see Cuba.

there's something about pioneering that people object to. I'm thinking it would be reflective in your lives too. Do you travel? Do you do exciting things? Or do you live in the same town you grew up in or where your parents live? What's your job? Are you learning things all the time? Have you switched jobs in the last decade?

Me, I travel, i don't live where I grew up, I have a relatively new job as a gis cartographer. Came from an architecture background, did carpentry in between.

I don't doubt for a minute that you would donate. You are exactly the type of feeble minded person I've mentioned:

"Space is cool!"

Pitiful.

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legion

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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2015, 03:47:37 PM »
What do you believers in all these space adventures have to say to this:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.872510-Mars-One-Finalist-Its-All-a-Scam:

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I've often said. before they can build a base on the moon, they need to build a self-sustaining colony on the ocean floor. At least a thousand feet down. Yeah I know space and the ocean are two fairly different environments but the methods and problems are comprable. You have to creat a sealed, air tight, pressurized enclosure capoable of withstanding a variety of stresses. Find a way to generate, store and recycle oxygen water and food for the long term, and keep people from going batshit insane for the same period.

It'll be cheaper, easier and less harmful than trying to develop the techniques in space.. for starters there's a whole slew of problems caused be low-micro gravity. Weakening of the bones, heart, muscles and blood vessels for starters.. Then there's the bacteria. Yeah apparently in low gravity, Virii fungi and bacteria basically go super saiyan.. while the human immune system conversely gets a little weaker.

I fully agree with this post. So, why has it never been done???

Edit: I quoted verbatim so there are grammatical, spelling, and other errors.
When people raise money they do something right? They're like "hey will you pledge ten dollars for every mile I run to donate to cancer research?" They're not like hey will you pledge money for me to research cancer on my computer? Or pledge money for every hour I sit at home.

This is a big challenge. Do people want to contribute millions of dollars for people to go live on the bottom of the ocean? No. That's a waste and a stupid idea.

Do people want to contribute money for the first planetary pioneers in history? Yes, that sounds really cool.
There are people try to survive on bin scrapes & living in card board boxes .  Wasting 2.2 billion  on a  deceptive fraudulent ego trip .What type of crecher are uses ? Your definitely not human . Glorification of such squander is just plain disgusting sickning  behavior.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-04/bransons-space-dream-lives-despite-virgin-galactic-crash/5866338

You are quite right, Charles. The people behind these "missions" and those who support them, aren't interested in life. They are interested in thinking they are "cool" (the supporters) and making money (the originators).

I agree. It's objectionable.
"Indoctrination [...] is often distinguished from education by the fact that the indoctrinated person is expected not to question or critically examine the doctrine they have learned".

Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2015, 03:50:19 PM »
What do you believers in all these space adventures have to say to this:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.872510-Mars-One-Finalist-Its-All-a-Scam:

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I've often said. before they can build a base on the moon, they need to build a self-sustaining colony on the ocean floor. At least a thousand feet down. Yeah I know space and the ocean are two fairly different environments but the methods and problems are comprable. You have to creat a sealed, air tight, pressurized enclosure capoable of withstanding a variety of stresses. Find a way to generate, store and recycle oxygen water and food for the long term, and keep people from going batshit insane for the same period.

It'll be cheaper, easier and less harmful than trying to develop the techniques in space.. for starters there's a whole slew of problems caused be low-micro gravity. Weakening of the bones, heart, muscles and blood vessels for starters.. Then there's the bacteria. Yeah apparently in low gravity, Virii fungi and bacteria basically go super saiyan.. while the human immune system conversely gets a little weaker.

I fully agree with this post. So, why has it never been done???

Edit: I quoted verbatim so there are grammatical, spelling, and other errors.
When people raise money they do something right? They're like "hey will you pledge ten dollars for every mile I run to donate to cancer research?" They're not like hey will you pledge money for me to research cancer on my computer? Or pledge money for every hour I sit at home.

This is a big challenge. Do people want to contribute millions of dollars for people to go live on the bottom of the ocean? No. That's a waste and a stupid idea.

Do people want to contribute money for the first planetary pioneers in history? Yes, that sounds really cool.

What would humanity gain from going to Mars compared with exploring the oceans on Earth? Or digging on land here. Are our origins more likely to be found on Mars???

That is a really stupid idea.

And this is how we're different. Space is cool. The bottom of the ocean is just not all that exciting. I would not pay one penny for people to challenge themselves with a trip to the bottom of the ocean. I would pay money for people to go to space.

And Charles Bloomington. There will always be poor people. We can feed them with those billions of dollars, true. But is it sustainable? Will they never starve again? What about their children. Are we meant to always be providing for the poorest people? If so please see Cuba.

there's something about pioneering that people object to. I'm thinking it would be reflective in your lives too. Do you travel? Do you do exciting things? Or do you live in the same town you grew up in or where your parents live? What's your job? Are you learning things all the time? Have you switched jobs in the last decade?

Me, I travel, i don't live where I grew up, I have a relatively new job as a gis cartographer. Came from an architecture background, did carpentry in between.
There poverty is not a result of non providing . It is the result of the parasitic hosting being condoned .
When it comes to Jane's standards .I'm lower then an old stove she has in her garage.
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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2015, 05:19:31 PM »
Is this the thing that they want to make a reality show out of? Because if so, no one of import has really taken this seriously.
I have 13 [academic qualifications] actually. I'll leave it up to you to guess which, or simply call me a  liar. Either is fine.

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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2015, 12:14:01 PM »
I haven't been here for months but I saw this story and thought, "I bet legion wrote a post about this and thinks this actually matters." Sure  enough.

So you know...

Correlation does not imply causation.




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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2015, 02:15:02 PM »
I haven't been here for months but I saw this story and thought, "I bet legion wrote a post about this and thinks this actually matters." Sure  enough.

So you know...

Correlation does not imply causation.

I have a duty to help the feeble minded. How's the treatment going? Any progress?
"Indoctrination [...] is often distinguished from education by the fact that the indoctrinated person is expected not to question or critically examine the doctrine they have learned".

Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2015, 09:07:10 PM »
I haven't been here for months but I saw this story and thought, "I bet legion wrote a post about this and thinks this actually matters." Sure  enough.

So you know...

Correlation does not imply causation.
really? If your not on the train , you cant be thrown from it can you. So its all part of the full shit pot in any event.
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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2015, 04:02:16 AM »
Looks like a roundy with a Post hole digger in physics and astrophysics just spat the dummy, bit slow off the mark but at least he is sort of catching on.
http://www.timeslive.co.za/scitech/2015/03/23/finalist-criticises-mars-one-selection-process
« Last Edit: March 23, 2015, 04:04:14 AM by tappet »

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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2015, 04:49:23 PM »
I'm intrigued by the fact that legion—and several other flat earthers here—have taken at face value the claims of a round earth scientist that Mars I is apparently nothing more than a money-making hoax.

Why do they selectively pick what round earth scientists do and say?  How do they differentiate between the scientists they claim are fraudsters or paid shills (which is most of them LOL), and the ones like this Dr. Joseph Roche who they believe without question?  They've cited him authoritatively several times on this forum, but not one single flat earther has come out and called him a liar or a shill working for the New World Order or "the government" or the Freemasons.

It seems the flat earthers are more than happy to accept the words of a round earth scientist when it suits them, but otherwise they're all charlatans.

Or will they now claim that Roche is in reality a flat earth scientist?  Can't have it both ways legion.    ::)

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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2015, 01:19:28 PM »
Your looking at it all wrong Geoff, I am just amazed a scientist caught on.
Now that goes against science!

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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2015, 07:43:12 AM »
Your looking at it all wrong Geoff, I am just amazed a scientist caught on.
Now that goes against science!

The point I was making was that legion picks and chooses whom he wants to accept as legitimate sources for his claims.  He invariably cites accredited scientists—such as Dr. Joseph Roche—as being liars and shills and only in it for the money, and, more importantly untrustworthy, but in the case of Roche's claims that the Mars I expedition is a fraud, he's more than happy to cite Roche as a reliable source.

So... do flat earthers accept as truthful the words of scientists sometimes?  Never?  Or just when it suits their own flat earth arguments?

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legion

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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2015, 12:32:34 PM »
Your looking at it all wrong Geoff, I am just amazed a scientist caught on.
Now that goes against science!

The point I was making was that legion picks and chooses whom he wants to accept as legitimate sources for his claims.  He invariably cites accredited scientists—such as Dr. Joseph Roche—as being liars and shills and only in it for the money, and, more importantly untrustworthy, but in the case of Roche's claims that the Mars I expedition is a fraud, he's more than happy to cite Roche as a reliable source.

So... do flat earthers accept as truthful the words of scientists sometimes?  Never?  Or just when it suits their own flat earth arguments?

You are wrong, as always, geoffrey. I have made no claims regarding the reliability of the person making the allegation. I don't give a monkeys what his motivation was, or what his views on the shape of the earth are.

The thread was started to invite discussion.

As always, you have contributed nothing to the discussion.
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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2015, 12:48:19 PM »
You are wrong, as always, geoffrey. I have made no claims regarding the reliability of the person making the allegation.

You believe that there is a Mars One scam, and of all the articles to initiate the discussion, you chose the one with Jospeh Roche to present.  It seems either you believe he is reliable or you are less competent than I imagined.  If the former is true, then AusGeoff has actually pointed out a hypocrisy you are engaging in.  If it is the later then who cares really, because you are bringing a knife to a gun fight.

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I don't give a monkeys what his motivation was, or what his views on the shape of the earth are.

In this case or ever?

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The thread was started to invite discussion.

Success!

As always, you have contributed nothing to the discussion.
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legion

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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2015, 12:53:45 PM »
You are wrong, as always, geoffrey. I have made no claims regarding the reliability of the person making the allegation.

You believe that there is a Mars One scam, and of all the articles to initiate the discussion, you chose the one with Jospeh Roche to present.  It seems either you believe he is reliable or you are less competent than I imagined.  If the former is true, then AusGeoff has actually pointed out a hypocrisy you are engaging in.  If it is the later then who cares really, because you are bringing a knife to a gun fight.

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I don't give a monkeys what his motivation was, or what his views on the shape of the earth are.

In this case or ever?

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The thread was started to invite discussion.

Success!

As always, you have contributed nothing to the discussion.

I believe there are many scams. What is your point?
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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2015, 12:56:44 PM »
I believe there are many scams. What is your point?

AusGeoff has actually pointed out a hypocrisy you are engaging in.

That you are a hypocrite.  :-\
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legion

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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #49 on: March 27, 2015, 01:05:49 PM »
I believe there are many scams. What is your point?

AusGeoff has actually pointed out a hypocrisy you are engaging in.

That you are a hypocrite.  :-\

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrite:

hypocrite
[hip-uh-krit]

noun
1.
a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2.
a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.


Explain my alleged hypocrisy.
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Rama Set

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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #50 on: March 27, 2015, 01:07:30 PM »
I believe there are many scams. What is your point?

AusGeoff has actually pointed out a hypocrisy you are engaging in.

That you are a hypocrite.  :-\

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrite:

hypocrite
[hip-uh-krit]

noun
1.
a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2.
a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.


Explain my alleged hypocrisy.

I am sorry you are having trouble reading my posts.  Please hang up and try again.  *boop*
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legion

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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #51 on: March 27, 2015, 01:34:24 PM »
I believe there are many scams. What is your point?

AusGeoff has actually pointed out a hypocrisy you are engaging in.

That you are a hypocrite.  :-\

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrite:

hypocrite
[hip-uh-krit]

noun
1.
a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2.
a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.


Explain my alleged hypocrisy.

I am sorry you are having trouble reading my posts.  Please hang up and try again.  *boop*

So you can't? As I thought.
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Rama Set

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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #52 on: March 27, 2015, 01:51:28 PM »
I believe there are many scams. What is your point?

AusGeoff has actually pointed out a hypocrisy you are engaging in.

That you are a hypocrite.  :-\

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrite:

hypocrite
[hip-uh-krit]

noun
1.
a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2.
a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.


Explain my alleged hypocrisy.

I am sorry you are having trouble reading my posts.  Please hang up and try again.  *boop*

So you can't? As I thought.

No, no, no.  Ok cutie pie I will lay it out for you.  On the one hand, you present yourself as someone who does not trust scientists, because you think for yourself, quite a virtue you are claiming, no?  But then on the other hand, when the scientists support your view, your critical thought goes out the window, and you present their words as proof positive of your position; so apparently you do not think for yourself, but instead suffer from confirmation bias.  This, per the 1st definition you so pedantically posted, makes you a hypocrite.
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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #53 on: March 27, 2015, 01:57:41 PM »
You believe that there is a Mars One scam, and of all the articles to initiate the discussion, you chose the one with Jospeh Roche to present.  It seems either you believe he is reliable or you are less competent than I imagined.  If the former is true, then AusGeoff has actually pointed out a hypocrisy you are engaging in.  If it is the later then who cares really, because you are bringing a knife to a gun fight.

Thanks for clarifying this point for the ever-illogical legion.  He doesn't seem to be aware that in one breath he condemns RE scientists, and in the next breath uses them to support his arguments.  (In this case that the Mars I mission is fraudulent.)

This is not the first time that legion has called upon RE science to support parts of his claims.  Hypocrisy at its best.    ::)

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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #54 on: March 27, 2015, 01:59:00 PM »
I believe there are many scams. What is your point?

AusGeoff has actually pointed out a hypocrisy you are engaging in.

That you are a hypocrite.  :-\

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrite:

hypocrite
[hip-uh-krit]

noun
1.
a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2.
a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.


Explain my alleged hypocrisy.

I am sorry you are having trouble reading my posts.  Please hang up and try again.  *boop*

So you can't? As I thought.

No, no, no.  Ok cutie pie I will lay it out for you.  On the one hand, you present yourself as someone who does not trust scientists, because you think for yourself, quite a virtue you are claiming, no?  But then on the other hand, when the scientists support your view, your critical thought goes out the window, and you present their words as proof positive of your position; so apparently you do not think for yourself, but instead suffer from confirmation bias.  This, per the 1st definition you so pedantically posted, makes you a hypocrite.

When did I state that this is proof that Mars One is a scam? You have no idea how logic works, do you?
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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #55 on: March 27, 2015, 02:03:16 PM »
When did I state that this is proof that Mars One is a scam? You have no idea how logic works, do you?

Maybe you don't, but of all the supporting material of there being a scam in Mars One, you chose that.  So I am left with the following choices:

a) He is presenting this as proof positive that there is a scam.
b) He is presenting it as fluff.  "There is a scam in Mars One, but this big long article has nothing to do with it!"
c) He is presenting it as proof that there is no scam.

If a), then you are a hypocite, if b), then you present irrelevant material and are not worth the time, if c) then you are an idiot.  I chose the most favorable option for you, so, you are welcome.

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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #56 on: March 27, 2015, 02:07:53 PM »
When did I state that this is proof that Mars One is a scam? You have no idea how logic works, do you?

Maybe you don't, but of all the supporting material of there being a scam in Mars One, you chose that.  So I am left with the following choices:

a) He is presenting this as proof positive that there is a scam.
b) He is presenting it as fluff.  "There is a scam in Mars One, but this big long article has nothing to do with it!"
c) He is presenting it as proof that there is no scam.

If a), then you are a hypocite, if b), then you present irrelevant material and are not worth the time, if c) then you are an idiot.  I chose the most favorable option for you, so, you are welcome.

Explain the bold section. Personally, I have no interest in Mars One (or any other space adventure). I found the allegation amusing, that is all. What is the other 'evidence?' I find it strange you haven't presented it thus far, as it is relevant to the discussion.
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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #57 on: March 27, 2015, 02:12:55 PM »

Personally, I have no interest in Mars One (or any other space adventure).

You had no interest in the conversation you started? Then why are you still here?

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I found the allegation amusing, that is all.

Oh!  So you are interested

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What is the other 'evidence?'

You tell me.  Why did you say:

Could there be other scams regarding space exploration, or is this the only one?

Surely you did not say that without any evidence?  Then your hypocrisy could be extended to your espousing of the virtue of empiricism.


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legion

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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #58 on: March 27, 2015, 02:22:35 PM »

Personally, I have no interest in Mars One (or any other space adventure).

You had no interest in the conversation you started? Then why are you still here?

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I found the allegation amusing, that is all.

Oh!  So you are interested

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What is the other 'evidence?'

You tell me.  Why did you say:

Could there be other scams regarding space exploration, or is this the only one?

Surely you did not say that without any evidence?  Then your hypocrisy could be extended to your espousing of the virtue of empiricism.



You think you are being clever. You are not.

1. I'm interested in what less indoctrinated members think about the allegations. Not in your thoughts or geoffreys. Yours are entirely predictable and tiresome.

2. I found the allegation amusing, as I stated.

3. Avoiding the question.

4. It was a question, fool.



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Re: Mars One - The Latest Scam?
« Reply #59 on: March 27, 2015, 02:25:09 PM »
When did I state that this is proof that Mars One is a scam? You have no idea how logic works, do you?

You confirmed it elliptically. 

Your thread topic:  "Mars One - The Latest Scam?"

Then you said: "Could there be other scams regarding space exploration, or is this the only one?"

It's actually your logic that's at fault here LOL.