How come the Moon doesn't spin with the Earth?

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mikeman7918

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Re: How come the Moon doesn't spin with the Earth?
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2015, 06:52:48 PM »
Would the atmosphere at least rotate perfectly with the concrete?  ... but more importantly,  I am wondering why friction would occur between the earth and air, if the atmosphere is simply part of the earth system. What role does it have to play? It is like that car seat.

Friction occurs between the Earth and the air for the same reason it occurs between your hand and the air when you move your hand really fast back and forth.  When air has to move out of the way to let something pass through it compresses a tiny bit in some places, it takes energy to cause air to compress and compression produces heat which is where kinetic energy goes when friction works on things.  Friction happens between the atmosphere and the Earth because of things like mountains which would compress the air hitting it a tiny bit and turn that energy into heat, and in turn the atmosphere and Earth slow down relative to each other.
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iWitness

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Re: How come the Moon doesn't spin with the Earth?
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2015, 06:54:42 AM »
Show me somewhere in the Bible where Jesus tells someone they are going to Hell and I will believe you.  Non-Christians can be good people too, I don't know why some people find that so hard to grasp.

Matthew 25

The Parable of the Ten Virgins

1“At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.

6“At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’

7“Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’

9“ ‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’

10“But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.

11“Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’

12“But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’

13“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.

The Parable of the Bags of Gold

14“Again, it will be like a man going on a journey, who called his servants and entrusted his wealth to them. 15To one he gave five bags of gold, to another two bags, and to another one bag,a each according to his ability. Then he went on his journey. 16The man who had received five bags of gold went at once and put his money to work and gained five bags more. 17So also, the one with two bags of gold gained two more. 18But the man who had received one bag went off, dug a hole in the ground and hid his master’s money.

19“After a long time the master of those servants returned and settled accounts with them. 20The man who had received five bags of gold brought the other five. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘you entrusted me with five bags of gold. See, I have gained five more.’

21“His master replied, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master’s happiness!’

22“The man with two bags of gold also came. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘you entrusted me with two bags of gold; see, I have gained two more.’

23“His master replied, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master’s happiness!’

24“Then the man who had received one bag of gold came. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘I knew that you are a hard man, harvesting where you have not sown and gathering where you have not scattered seed. 25So I was afraid and went out and hid your gold in the ground. See, here is what belongs to you.’

26“His master replied, ‘You wicked, lazy servant! So you knew that I harvest where I have not sown and gather where I have not scattered seed? 27Well then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers, so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest.

28“ ‘So take the bag of gold from him and give it to the one who has ten bags. 29For whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 30And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

The Sheep and the Goats

31“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
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mikeman7918

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Re: How come the Moon doesn't spin with the Earth?
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2015, 07:29:25 AM »
Please point out where it says "and Jesus said 'you are going to hell'".  I don't see it.
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FalseProphet

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Re: How come the Moon doesn't spin with the Earth?
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2015, 09:40:51 AM »
The foolish virgins were quite heavily deceived by the wise ones. That's not rally a good story!

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FalseProphet

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Re: How come the Moon doesn't spin with the Earth?
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2015, 09:45:34 AM »
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For whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them.

That's the way economy works.

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Re: How come the Moon doesn't spin with the Earth?
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2015, 10:21:31 AM »
The foolish virgins were quite heavily deceived by the wise ones. That's not rally a good story!

These religious books like a story involving virgins.
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FalseProphet

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Re: How come the Moon doesn't spin with the Earth?
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2015, 11:14:42 AM »
Please point out where it says "and Jesus said 'you are going to hell'".  I don't see it.

I looked up how Matthew 25,46 sounds in the Greek original.

 kai apeleusontai houtoi eis kolasin aiônion

    hoi de dikaioi eis zôên aiônion

aionios means "eternal". zoen aionion" eternal life". hoi dikaioi "the rightous ones, eis is "into", de, "but"
"but the righteous ones (go) into eternal life."

kolasin means "pain", eis kolasin aionion means indeed "into the eternal pain, apeleusontai "they will go", kai "and", houtoi "they"

"and they will go into eternal pain, but the righteous ones into eternal life."

Some Bible groups deny that aionios means eternal, but that's bs, the dictionary knows just one translation. it is the Greek word for eternal. Also it is in parallelism to "eternal life". So when the sentence speaks about "eternal life" it also speaks about "eternal pain".

iWitness is right. Jesus threatens his audience with eternal pain, at least according to Matthew.

EDIT: I do not speak Greek, but languages are my subject. I studied linguistics in Australia.
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mikeman7918

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Re: How come the Moon doesn't spin with the Earth?
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2015, 11:53:50 AM »
That's not a threat, it's a warning.  It's like if someone tells you not to walk around in the road or you will get hit by a car, they are not threatening you with being hit by a car as punishment for walking in the road.
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FalseProphet

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Re: How come the Moon doesn't spin with the Earth?
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2015, 12:10:11 PM »
That's not a threat, it's a warning.  It's like if someone tells you not to walk around in the road or you will get hit by a car, they are not threatening you with being hit by a car as punishment for walking in the road.


You better do what I tell you, or you could get hit by a car. That's not a threat, it's just a warning. Things like that happen, you know?

Obviously the NT teaches eternal pain for the "wicked" what ever that means. No hairspitting can deny this.

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MaNaeSWolf

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Re: How come the Moon doesn't spin with the Earth?
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2015, 12:17:39 PM »
How come the Moon doesn't spin with the Earth?

How did this topic end up at people being hit by cars and bible versus?
I highly recommend http://www.addforums.com/forums/ for most people here  ;D

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iWitness, are you genuinely interested in an explanation?
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Scroto Gaggins

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Re: How come the Moon doesn't spin with the Earth?
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2015, 03:07:01 PM »
Show me somewhere in the Bible where Jesus tells someone they are going to Hell and I will believe you.  Non-Christians can be good people too, I don't know why some people find that so hard to grasp.

Matthew 25

The Parable of the Ten Virgins

1“At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.

6“At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’

7“Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’

9“ ‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’

10“But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.

11“Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’

12“But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’

13“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.

The Parable of the Bags of Gold

14“Again, it will be like a man going on a journey, who called his servants and entrusted his wealth to them. 15To one he gave five bags of gold, to another two bags, and to another one bag,a each according to his ability. Then he went on his journey. 16The man who had received five bags of gold went at once and put his money to work and gained five bags more. 17So also, the one with two bags of gold gained two more. 18But the man who had received one bag went off, dug a hole in the ground and hid his master’s money.

19“After a long time the master of those servants returned and settled accounts with them. 20The man who had received five bags of gold brought the other five. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘you entrusted me with five bags of gold. See, I have gained five more.’

21“His master replied, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master’s happiness!’

22“The man with two bags of gold also came. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘you entrusted me with two bags of gold; see, I have gained two more.’

23“His master replied, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master’s happiness!’

24“Then the man who had received one bag of gold came. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘I knew that you are a hard man, harvesting where you have not sown and gathering where you have not scattered seed. 25So I was afraid and went out and hid your gold in the ground. See, here is what belongs to you.’

26“His master replied, ‘You wicked, lazy servant! So you knew that I harvest where I have not sown and gather where I have not scattered seed? 27Well then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers, so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest.

28“ ‘So take the bag of gold from him and give it to the one who has ten bags. 29For whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 30And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

The Sheep and the Goats

31“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Did you unintentionally just describe all Christians as, to borrow hoppy's phrase, 'Sheeple'
And what does that story say that has any bearing on the subject
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