if we know nasa fake photos, why trust any?

Publicity. NASA sees strings of blinking lights in the night sky and go "oooh it's a galaxy i bet let's draw up what it could look like since we have verified that it is there from the blinky lights and say that is what it is lol this is good science". This is basically how NASA conducts their entire operation.

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Publicity. NASA sees strings of blinking lights in the night sky and go "oooh it's a galaxy i bet let's draw up what it could look like since we have verified that it is there from the blinky lights and say that is what it is lol this is good science". This is basically how NASA conducts their entire operation.

People resident in the US should understand there are many organisations in other countries conducting similar research.

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Quote from: Vauxhall on March 11, 2015, 04:01:25 PM

Publicity. NASA sees strings of blinking lights in the night sky and go "oooh it's a galaxy i bet let's draw up what it could look like since we have verified that it is there from the blinky lights and say that is what it is lol this is good science". This is basically how NASA conducts their entire operation.

People resident in the US should understand there are many organisations in other countries conducting similar research.

Other than NASA.

What?

Quote from: Vauxhall on March 11, 2015, 04:01:25 PM

Publicity. NASA sees strings of blinking lights in the night sky and go "oooh it's a galaxy i bet let's draw up what it could look like since we have verified that it is there from the blinky lights and say that is what it is lol this is good science". This is basically how NASA conducts their entire operation.

People resident in the US should understand there are many organisations in other countries conducting similar research.

it is obvious some of the photos nasa gives out are fake. for example, the following, which looks incredibly real and yet would be impossible to have been taken.


so if they give out stunningly realistic images which we know are fake, why blindly assume that the rest of what they say is true?

it is obvious some of the photos nasa gives out are fake. for example, the following, which looks incredibly real and yet would be impossible to have been taken.


so if they give out stunningly realistic images which we know are fake, why blindly assume that the rest of what they say is true?

Quote from: JRoweSkeptic on March 11, 2015, 03:06:18 PM

it is obvious some of the photos nasa gives out are fake. for example, the following, which looks incredibly real and yet would be impossible to have been taken.


so if they give out stunningly realistic images which we know are fake, why blindly assume that the rest of what they say is true?

Why are you using an image that was not created by NASA for your argument, deceit or ignorance on your part?

It's clearly an image of the Andromeda Galaxy that has been buggered about so that it, quite frankly, no longer looks remotely realistic.

Here's a real picture of the Andromeda Galaxy, taken by an amateur astronomer:

it's not andromeda. you've just proven a perfect example of round earther gullibility, you find a picture that looks absolutely nothing like what i've given, and insist they're somehow the same. if that's the level of your observational skill, i'm not surprised.

so:

mikeman, are you saying the photo is indeed genuine?
dephelis, please elaborate on the differences between the two photos in terms of quality (not content, as they are not meant to be the same location).

Wow, amateur astronomer took a photo, so what? Does it prove space travel is real?

Does it prove NASA is in space? No, it doesn't. It actually suggests that NASA doesn't need to be in space, because you don't need to go there to take a photo of Andromeda. Your argument is meaningless.

JRoweSkeptic argues that NASA doesn't have any space telescopes, no access to space, doesn't fly anywhere etc. You're showing us a photo of a galaxy taken from Earth. What does it prove? NASA basically doesn't contribute at all since anyone can take a photo of a galaxy.

it is obvious some of the photos nasa gives out are fake. for example, the following, which looks incredibly real and yet would be impossible to have been taken.

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so if they give out stunningly realistic images which we know are fake, why blindly assume that the rest of what they say is true?

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Publicity. NASA sees strings of blinking lights in the night sky and go "oooh it's a galaxy i bet let's draw up what it could look like since we have verified that it is there from the blinky lights and say that is what it is lol this is good science". This is basically how NASA conducts their entire operation.

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Dephelis, every thread is pretty much the same. He posted a photo which is not from NASA, so what? The idea is clear. There are many NASA photos which are fake! Not only that, but you don't need to have anything in space to take a genuine photo of a galaxy and still disseminate fake photos. I guess artwork is always more impressive. I am sure you won't get that based on your track record.

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Dephelis, every thread is pretty much the same. He posted a photo which is not from NASA, so what? The idea is clear. There are many NASA photos which are fake! Not only that, but you don't need to have anything in space to take a genuine photo of a galaxy and still disseminate fake photos. I guess artwork is always more impressive. I am sure you won't get that based on your track record.

So you don't believe in honesty in arguments then? Fine, I'll keep that noted for further discussions.

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Dephelis, every thread is pretty much the same. He posted a photo which is not from NASA, so what? The idea is clear. There are many NASA photos which are fake! Not only that, but you don't need to have anything in space to take a genuine photo of a galaxy and still disseminate fake photos. I guess artwork is always more impressive. I am sure you won't get that based on your track record.

So you don't believe in honesty in arguments then? Fine, I'll keep that noted for further discussions.

What arguments? Everything is a philosophical debate.

In logic and philosophy, an argument is a series of statements typically used to persuade someone of something

None of this matters anyway, as it is absolutely abstract. Neither you nor anyone discussing here has in impact on anything. It is just sharing random ideas on a forum with no special agenda.

Do you have an agenda?

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Quote from: dephelis on March 12, 2015, 05:04:51 AM

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Dephelis, every thread is pretty much the same. He posted a photo which is not from NASA, so what? The idea is clear. There are many NASA photos which are fake! Not only that, but you don't need to have anything in space to take a genuine photo of a galaxy and still disseminate fake photos. I guess artwork is always more impressive. I am sure you won't get that based on your track record.

So you don't believe in honesty in arguments then? Fine, I'll keep that noted for further discussions.

What arguments? Everything is a philosophical debate.

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In logic and philosophy, an argument is a series of statements typically used to persuade someone of something

The argument is unsound, the image is neither by NASA nor is it an image that is claimed to be real and unaltered. Either JRoweSkeptic is ignorant of this or he knows that it does not support his argument and is being dishonest in his representations. Considering the image is an obvious fake, that would suggest the latter conclusion.

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None of this matters anyway, as it is absolutely abstract. Neither you nor anyone discussing here has in impact on anything. It is just sharing random ideas on a forum with no special agenda.

Are you denying that the Flat Earth Society Forums have an agenda to promote the FE hypothesis and disprove RET?

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Do you have an agenda?

Yes. That an argument be fair and not a gross misrepresentation.

Those last two bits are a bit off topic though, want to start a new thread?

Yeah, whatever. What is the point to talk to you if you already know everything.

The idea of the forum is to be a forum where people can share their thoughts. The forum doesn't promote anything as anyone can share their beliefs.

Welcome to Flat Earth Debate. This forum is for debates on Flat Earth Theory. Opposing viewpoints are, as always, welcomed -- but please keep the discussion serious and intelligent.

No one gets banned as far as I know.

it is an image that is fake, that looks by your own admission similar to the 'actual' images. it seems an obvious conclusion that the other images could be fake. this is a very simple piece of logic.

honestly, what sets those other images apart? is your argument really a 'because i say so'?

it is an image that is fake, that looks by your own admission similar to the 'actual' images. it seems an obvious conclusion that the other images could be fake. this is a very simple piece of logic.

honestly, what sets those other images apart? is your argument really a 'because i say so'?

it is an image that is fake, that looks by your own admission similar to the 'actual' images. it seems an obvious conclusion that the other images could be fake. this is a very simple piece of logic.

honestly, what sets those other images apart? is your argument really a 'because i say so'?

it is obvious some of the photos nasa gives out are fake. for example, the following, which looks incredibly real and yet would be impossible to have been taken.


so if they give out stunningly realistic images which we know are fake, why blindly assume that the rest of what they say is true?

Haha gotta love how the amateur photo from earth looks just as good as what Nasa can provide.

It's a totally real photo and you know nothing about how photos from Hubble are edited.

1. There's a black and white photo of e.g. a galaxy.
2. It's colored.
3. They increase the sharpness.

But it's still a real photo.

Quote from: LogicalKiller on March 12, 2015, 09:30:14 AM

It's a totally real photo and you know nothing about how photos from Hubble are edited.

1. There's a black and white photo of e.g. a galaxy.
2. It's colored.
3. They increase the sharpness.

But it's still a real photo.

Hubble sees in color, it's just that images need to be false color when taken at non visible wavelengths.