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Re: Perspective
« Reply #60 on: February 20, 2015, 09:35:29 AM »
Look at the moon photo, people. there are some similarities as only part of the moon is illuminated to be seen from earth.

In the second from left, and second from right, they each share a pronounced crater which is visible on no others. that is the clearest proof that you're wrong. the lit side simply rotates away, then rotates back, and what was once right, is then left. Of course, like with most spotlights, the distances are untrustworthy: when it's just rotating into view, that which is almost halfway along appears closer to the nearer edge.

thank you for the perfect evidence for what i am saying. are you going to think for yourself and listen to reason, or keep spewing the same bs you've been spoon-fed?
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #61 on: February 20, 2015, 09:45:24 AM »
Ok, so why don't you think that the sun is what we think it is?
gas disperses. fire cannot burn in vacuum. simple stuff.

The Sun is not on fire, it's fusing hydrogen into helium.  Also, the Sun has gravity that keeps the gas from dispersing.
ah, your magic gravity, which affects only dense objects, and yet works not only on gas, but the two least dense gases of hydrogen and helium. think about it.

Gravity doesn't only effect dence objects, density is not even a variable in the gravity equasion.  What matters is mass, regardless of how tightly it's packed.  If you think that gravity is wrong because there is no explenation for it, consider this:

Magnetism can't be explained, it's just an intrinsic property of fundamental particles that result in magnetic fields.  Does magnetism not exist?

Nobody knows why sleep is nesesary.  Is sleep not necessary?

By your reasoning sleep and magnetism are just magical things that can't be taken seriously because there is no explanation.
mass and density are related. try again.
gravity is magical because you only apply it when it's convenient, and in no consistent way. helium and hydrogen are the least massive of all the elements, and yet the sun has more gravity than the earth. does that really make sense to you?

The variables in the gravity equasion are the masses of the objects in question, the gravitational constant, and the distance.  Note how density is not one of them.  There is a difference between only taking gravity into account when it's convenient and only taking it into account when it will actually make a measurable difference.  You are gravitationally attracted to your computer, but you are standing in the Earth because it has dozens of powers of tens more mass.  Please name one instance where gravity is neglected even though it should be taken into account.
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #62 on: February 20, 2015, 09:49:58 AM »
Look at the moon photo, people. there are some similarities as only part of the moon is illuminated to be seen from earth.

In the second from left, and second from right, they each share a pronounced crater which is visible on no others. that is the clearest proof that you're wrong. the lit side simply rotates away, then rotates back, and what was once right, is then left. Of course, like with most spotlights, the distances are untrustworthy: when it's just rotating into view, that which is almost halfway along appears closer to the nearer edge.

thank you for the perfect evidence for what i am saying. are you going to think for yourself and listen to reason, or keep spewing the same bs you've been spoon-fed?
Altough I don't see the prononced crater of the second image from the right, I see the specific crater of the second image from the left. Don't worry, it's always here. It's just less visible because of the lack of drop shadows (the sun is high in the lunar sky).

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Re: Perspective
« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2015, 09:56:15 AM »
Ok, so why don't you think that the sun is what we think it is?
gas disperses. fire cannot burn in vacuum. simple stuff.

The Sun is not on fire, it's fusing hydrogen into helium.  Also, the Sun has gravity that keeps the gas from dispersing.
ah, your magic gravity, which affects only dense objects, and yet works not only on gas, but the two least dense gases of hydrogen and helium. think about it.

Gravity doesn't only effect dence objects, density is not even a variable in the gravity equasion.  What matters is mass, regardless of how tightly it's packed.  If you think that gravity is wrong because there is no explenation for it, consider this:

Magnetism can't be explained, it's just an intrinsic property of fundamental particles that result in magnetic fields.  Does magnetism not exist?

Nobody knows why sleep is nesesary.  Is sleep not necessary?

By your reasoning sleep and magnetism are just magical things that can't be taken seriously because there is no explanation.
mass and density are related. try again.
gravity is magical because you only apply it when it's convenient, and in no consistent way. helium and hydrogen are the least massive of all the elements, and yet the sun has more gravity than the earth. does that really make sense to you?

The variables in the gravity equasion are the masses of the objects in question, the gravitational constant, and the distance.  Note how density is not one of them.  There is a difference between only taking gravity into account when it's convenient and only taking it into account when it will actually make a measurable difference.  You are gravitationally attracted to your computer, but you are standing in the Earth because it has dozens of powers of tens more mass.  Please name one instance where gravity is neglected even though it should be taken into account.
did you even read my comment?
mass depends on density. again, mass depends on density. you can't say gravity doesn't depend on density, just mass, because mass depends on density. if you change the density of an object, you change the mass. more density, more mass. the tiny density of hydrogen and helium, very little mass, and no gravity as you pretend the sun has.

on the moon image, there is no such crater in the full moon or the one on the left, you've just made it up because you want there to be. the other two are exactly as i described.
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2015, 09:57:50 AM »
helium and hydrogen are the least massive of all the elements, and yet the sun has more gravity than the earth. does that really make sense to you?

The sun's diameter is 109 times larger than the earths.
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #65 on: February 20, 2015, 10:15:31 AM »
Ok, so why don't you think that the sun is what we think it is?
gas disperses. fire cannot burn in vacuum. simple stuff.

The Sun is not on fire, it's fusing hydrogen into helium.  Also, the Sun has gravity that keeps the gas from dispersing.
ah, your magic gravity, which affects only dense objects, and yet works not only on gas, but the two least dense gases of hydrogen and helium. think about it.

Gravity doesn't only effect dence objects, density is not even a variable in the gravity equasion.  What matters is mass, regardless of how tightly it's packed.  If you think that gravity is wrong because there is no explenation for it, consider this:

Magnetism can't be explained, it's just an intrinsic property of fundamental particles that result in magnetic fields.  Does magnetism not exist?

Nobody knows why sleep is nesesary.  Is sleep not necessary?

By your reasoning sleep and magnetism are just magical things that can't be taken seriously because there is no explanation.
mass and density are related. try again.
gravity is magical because you only apply it when it's convenient, and in no consistent way. helium and hydrogen are the least massive of all the elements, and yet the sun has more gravity than the earth. does that really make sense to you?

The variables in the gravity equasion are the masses of the objects in question, the gravitational constant, and the distance.  Note how density is not one of them.  There is a difference between only taking gravity into account when it's convenient and only taking it into account when it will actually make a measurable difference.  You are gravitationally attracted to your computer, but you are standing in the Earth because it has dozens of powers of tens more mass.  Please name one instance where gravity is neglected even though it should be taken into account.
did you even read my comment?
mass depends on density. again, mass depends on density. you can't say gravity doesn't depend on density, just mass, because mass depends on density. if you change the density of an object, you change the mass. more density, more mass. the tiny density of hydrogen and helium, very little mass, and no gravity as you pretend the sun has.

on the moon image, there is no such crater in the full moon or the one on the left, you've just made it up because you want there to be. the other two are exactly as i described.

Well, there is one. It is the ligher area in the center of the star-shaped darker area (the ejecta). Here, it is more visible, and you can see it in every picture of the moon i've pointed out. Don't be an hypocrite, please.

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Re: Perspective
« Reply #66 on: February 20, 2015, 11:09:54 AM »
" the Day when We shall roll up the heaven like a scroll rolled up for books" Alanbya - Verse - 104 - The Holy Quran
"and you will see the earth as a leveled plain" Al Kahf - Verse 47 - The Holy Quran

The Quran also says that bees eat fruit, ants can talk, bird flight is a miracle, and sperm comes from the ribs, so I wouldn't consider the Quran a literal book of sceince.

hhhhhhh! you're free to consider what do you want, I know it's not your fault but ours ! don't follow any translation but yours, quote words from the Quran, and translate them yourself one by one, you will get the right meaning ! Ex: The Quran doesn't mention fruits, translators do that, the Quran says "الثّمرات" it may indicate " Grass-fruits-flowers-vegetables..." fruits in the Quran is "فاكهة"  :) it doesn't say bird flight is a miracle,  it says I have come to you with a sign from your Lord I will create for you out of clay as likeness of a bird; and it will be a bird by the leave of God. al-'Imran 3:49, the miracle was that Jesus  PBUH created birds to convince people like you  :) and Hants actually talk, that is proved scientifically, please take a look at this ( from ABC News ) :

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Re: Perspective
« Reply #67 on: February 20, 2015, 11:37:24 AM »
did you even read my comment?
mass depends on density. again, mass depends on density. you can't say gravity doesn't depend on density, just mass, because mass depends on density.
Density depends on both mass and volume; saying mass depends on density alone is just plain wrong. It seems like you believe repeating things over and over again will make them true.

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if you change the density of an object, you change the mass. more density, more mass.
Do you honestly believe this? If you do, it would explain a lot. Reducing the volume occupied by a mass increases its density without changing the mass at all.

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the tiny density of hydrogen and helium, very little mass, and no gravity as you pretend the sun has.
"very little" is not the same as  "no" (as in "none"). How do you know the density of hydrogen and helium in the Sun?

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on the moon image, there is no such crater in the full moon or the one on the left, you've just made it up because you want there to be. the other two are exactly as i described.
The shadows change, the features are still there. Plenty of other distinctive shapes don't require shadows to recognize since they can be identified by changes in shades of grey; they're still there, too, seen in all the pictures where they're illuminated. Having a tantrum doesn't make your argument better.
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #68 on: February 20, 2015, 11:46:18 AM »
" the Day when We shall roll up the heaven like a scroll rolled up for books" Alanbya - Verse - 104 - The Holy Quran
"and you will see the earth as a leveled plain" Al Kahf - Verse 47 - The Holy Quran

The Quran also says that bees eat fruit, ants can talk, bird flight is a miracle, and sperm comes from the ribs, so I wouldn't consider the Quran a literal book of sceince.

hhhhhhh! you're free to consider what do you want, I know it's not your fault but ours ! don't follow any translation but yours, quote words from the Quran, and translate them yourself one by one, you will get the right meaning ! Ex: The Quran doesn't mention fruits, translators do that, the Quran says "الثّمرات" it may indicate " Grass-fruits-flowers-vegetables..." fruits in the Quran is "فاكهة"  :) it doesn't say bird flight is a miracle,  it says I have come to you with a sign from your Lord I will create for you out of clay as likeness of a bird; and it will be a bird by the leave of God. al-'Imran 3:49, the miracle was that Jesus  PBUH created birds to convince people like you  :) and Hants actually talk, that is proved scientifically, please take a look at this ( from ABC News ) :



Do they not look at the birds, held poised (musakhakharatin) in the midst of (the air and) the sky? Nothing holds them up but (the power of) God. Verily in this are signs for those who believe.  (The Noble Quran, 16:79)

[016:069]  Then eat of all manner of fruit (من كل الثمرات), and follow the ways of your Lord easy to go upon.' Then comes there forth out of their bellies a drink of diverse hues wherein is healing for men (فيه شفاء للناس). Surely in that is a sign for a people who reflect.

"Now let man but think from what he is created! He is created from a drop emitted - Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs:" S. 86:5-7

[027:018]  At length, when they came to a (lowly) valley of ants, one of the ants said: "O ye ants, get into your habitations, lest Solomon and his hosts crush you (under foot) without knowing it."
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #69 on: February 20, 2015, 01:28:42 PM »
Ok, so why don't you think that the sun is what we think it is?
gas disperses. fire cannot burn in vacuum. simple stuff.

The Sun is not on fire, it's fusing hydrogen into helium.  Also, the Sun has gravity that keeps the gas from dispersing.
ah, your magic gravity, which affects only dense objects, and yet works not only on gas, but the two least dense gases of hydrogen and helium. think about it.

Gravity doesn't only effect dence objects, density is not even a variable in the gravity equasion.  What matters is mass, regardless of how tightly it's packed.  If you think that gravity is wrong because there is no explenation for it, consider this:

Magnetism can't be explained, it's just an intrinsic property of fundamental particles that result in magnetic fields.  Does magnetism not exist?

Nobody knows why sleep is nesesary.  Is sleep not necessary?

By your reasoning sleep and magnetism are just magical things that can't be taken seriously because there is no explanation.
mass and density are related. try again.
gravity is magical because you only apply it when it's convenient, and in no consistent way. helium and hydrogen are the least massive of all the elements, and yet the sun has more gravity than the earth. does that really make sense to you?

The variables in the gravity equasion are the masses of the objects in question, the gravitational constant, and the distance.  Note how density is not one of them.  There is a difference between only taking gravity into account when it's convenient and only taking it into account when it will actually make a measurable difference.  You are gravitationally attracted to your computer, but you are standing in the Earth because it has dozens of powers of tens more mass.  Please name one instance where gravity is neglected even though it should be taken into account.
did you even read my comment?
mass depends on density. again, mass depends on density. you can't say gravity doesn't depend on density, just mass, because mass depends on density. if you change the density of an object, you change the mass. more density, more mass. the tiny density of hydrogen and helium, very little mass, and no gravity as you pretend the sun has.

on the moon image, there is no such crater in the full moon or the one on the left, you've just made it up because you want there to be. the other two are exactly as i described.

No, density depends on mass and volume, and sense volume is not a variable in the gravity equation it has no effect on gravity.  It doesn't matter if you have 10 pounds of lead or 10 pounds of Styrofoam, they have the same amount of gravity.  It should be noted however that when dealing with gravity you measure the distance from the center of mass of the objects in question, so the surface gravity of 10 pounds of lead is greater then that of 10 pounds of Styrofoam simply because the surface of the Styrofoam is further from the center of mass then the surface of the lead, but if you are the same distance away from both objects then you will feel the same gravitational pull from each of them.

As for the crater, it's simply harder to see when it's in direct sunlight because when the sunlight in angled it has a long shadow, but you can easily see the ejecta around the crater and you can also look at the darker spots on the Moon to see that the same side is always facing us.
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2015, 01:44:55 PM »
" the Day when We shall roll up the heaven like a scroll rolled up for books" Alanbya - Verse - 104 - The Holy Quran
"and you will see the earth as a leveled plain" Al Kahf - Verse 47 - The Holy Quran

The Quran also says that bees eat fruit, ants can talk, bird flight is a miracle, and sperm comes from the ribs, so I wouldn't consider the Quran a literal book of sceince.

hhhhhhh! you're free to consider what do you want, I know it's not your fault but ours ! don't follow any translation but yours, quote words from the Quran, and translate them yourself one by one, you will get the right meaning ! Ex: The Quran doesn't mention fruits, translators do that, the Quran says "الثّمرات" it may indicate " Grass-fruits-flowers-vegetables..." fruits in the Quran is "فاكهة"  :) it doesn't say bird flight is a miracle,  it says I have come to you with a sign from your Lord I will create for you out of clay as likeness of a bird; and it will be a bird by the leave of God. al-'Imran 3:49, the miracle was that Jesus  PBUH created birds to convince people like you  :) and Hants actually talk, that is proved scientifically, please take a look at this ( from ABC News ) :



Do they not look at the birds, held poised (musakhakharatin) in the midst of (the air and) the sky? Nothing holds them up but (the power of) God. Verily in this are signs for those who believe.  (The Noble Quran, 16:79)


This verse isn't talking about a miracle concerning how do the birds fly, but about god's antigravitational powers !
here's another verse for proof : " it's god who holds up the sky from falling down on earth " (22:65)
this has no bearing on what the sky can do, but it describes the power of god !!! the same case for the birds.
I repeat once more "الثّمرات" doesn't mean only fruit, but also vegetables grass flowers...  fruit in the Quran is called "فاكهة"
"لكم فيها فاكهة كثيرة منها تأكلون" Azzukhruf 73
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #71 on: February 20, 2015, 01:53:32 PM »
mohamed, do you have any evidence that the Quran is a valid source of scientific information? I would love to see it.
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #72 on: February 20, 2015, 02:00:59 PM »
the word SATAN is repeated 11 times in The Quran

1.   إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ اسْتَكْبَرَ وَكَانَ مِنَ الْكَافِرِينَ (ص- الآية 74)
2.   قَالَ يَا إِبْلِيسُ مَا مَنَعَكَ أَن تَسْجُدَ لِمَا خَلَقْتُ بِيَدَيَّ (ص - الآية 75)
3.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ وَاسْتَكْبَرَ وَكَانَ مِنَ الْكَافِرِينَ (البقرة - الآية34)
4.   وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَاكُمْ ثُمَّ صَوَّرْنَاكُمْ ثُمَّ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ لَمْ يَكُن مِّنَ السَّاجِدِين (الأعراف- 11)         
5.   إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ أَن يَكُونَ مَعَ السَّاجِدِينَ (الحجر-الآية 31)
6.   قَالَ يَا إِبْلِيسُ مَا لَكَ أَلَّا تَكُونَ مَعَ السَّاجِدِين (الحجر-الآية 32)
7.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ قَالَ أَأَسْجُدُ لِمَنْ خَلَقْتَ طِينًا (الإسراء-الآية 61)
8.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ كَانَ مِنَ الْجِنِّ فَفَسَقَ عَنْ أَمْرِ رَبِّهِ (الكهف 50)
9.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ (طه - الآية 116)
10     وَجُنُودُ إِبْلِيسَ أَجْمَعُونَ (الشعراء - الآية 95)
11   وَلَقَدْ صَدَّقَ عَلَيْهِمْ إِبْلِيسُ ظَنَّهُ فَاتَّبَعُوهُ إِلَّا فَرِيقًا مِّنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ (سبإ - الآية 20)



the word Protection of God against the devil is repeated 11 Times too

1.   وَإِمَّا يَنزَغَنَّكَ مِنَ الشَّيْطَانِ نَزْغٌ فَاسْتَعِذْ بِاللَّهِ إِنَّهُ سَمِيعٌ عَلِيمٌ) الأعراف - الآية 200)
2.   فَإِذَا قَرَأْتَ الْقُرْآنَ فَاسْتَعِذْ بِاللَّهِ مِنَ الشَّيْطَانِ الرَّجِيمِ) النحل - الآية 98)
3.   إِن فِي صُدُورِهِمْ إِلَّا كِبْرٌ مَّا هُم بِبَالِغِيهِ فَاسْتَعِذْ بِاللَّهِ  إِنَّهُ هُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْبَصِيرُ)  غافر - الآية 56)
4.   وَإِمَّا يَنزَغَنَّكَ مِنَ الشَّيْطَانِ نَزْغٌ فَاسْتَعِذْ بِاللَّهِ  إِنَّهُ هُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيم)  فصلت - الآية 36)
5.   قَالَ أَعُوذُ بِاللَّهِ أَنْ أَكُونَ مِنَ الْجَاهِلِينَ) البقرة - الآية 67)
6.   قَالَ رَبِّ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِكَ أَنْ أَسْأَلَكَ مَا لَيْسَ لِي بِهِ عِلْم ) هود - الآية 47)
7.   قَالَتْ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِالرَّحْمَٰنِ مِنكَ إِن كُنتَ تَقِيًّا) مريم - الآية 18)
8.   وقُل رَّبِّ أَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنْ هَمَزَاتِ الشَّيَاطِينِ) المؤمنون - الآية 97)
9.   وَأَعُوذُ بِكَ رَبِّ أَن يَحْضُرُونِ) المؤمنون - الآية 98)
10   قُلْ أَعُوذُ بِرَبِّ الْفَلَقِ) الفلق - الآية 1)
11   قُلْ أَعُوذُ بِرَبِّ النَّاس)   الناس - الآية 1)
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2015, 02:10:03 PM »
the expression god loves is repeated 16 times in the Quran:

1.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُحْسِنِينَ)البقرة: 195(
2.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ التَّوَّابِينَ وَيُحِبُّ الْمُتَطَهِّرِينَ) البقرة: 222(
3.   فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُتَّقِينَ) آل عمران: 76(
4.   وَاللَّهُ يُحِبُّ الْمُحْسِنِينَ)آل عمران: 134(
5.   وَاللَّهُ يُحِبُّ الصَّابِرِينَ) آل عمران: 146(
6.   وَاللَّهُ يُحِبُّ الْمُحْسِنِينَ)آل عمران: 148(
7.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُتَوَكِّلِينَ)آل عمران: 159(
8.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُحْسِنِينَ)المائدة: 13(
9.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُقْسِطِينَ)المائدة: 42(
10.   وَاللَّهُ يُحِبُّ الْمُحْسِنِينَ)المائدة: 93(
11.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُتَّقِينَ)التوبة: 4(
12.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُتَّقِينَ)التوبة: 7(
13.   وَاللَّهُ يُحِبُّ الْمُطَّهِّرِينَ)التوبة: 108(
14.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُقْسِطِينَ)الحجرات: 9(
15.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُقْسِطِينَ)الممتحنة: 8(
16.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الَّذِينَ يُقَاتِلُونَ فِي سَبِيلِهِ صَفًّا كَأَنَّهُمْ بُنْيَانٌ مَرْصُوصٌ)الصف:4(

the expression God Doesn't love is repeated 16 times too :

1.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ الْمُعْتَدِينَ)البقرة: 190(
2.   وَاللَّهُ لَا يُحِبُّ الْفَسَادَ)البقرة: 205(
3.   وَاللَّهُ لَا يُحِبُّ كُلَّ كَفَّارٍ أَثِيمٍ)البقرة: 276(
4.   فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ الْكَافِرِينَ)آل عمران: 32(
5.   وَاللَّهُ لَا يُحِبُّ الظَّالِمِينَ)آل عمران: 57(
6.   وَاللَّهُ لَا يُحِبُّ الظَّالِمِينَ)آل عمران: 140(
7.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ مَنْ كَانَ مُخْتَالًا فَخُورًا)النساء: 36(
8.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ مَنْ كَانَ خَوَّانًا أَثِيمًا)النساء: 107(
9.   واللَّهُ لَا يُحِبُّ الْمُفْسِدِينَ)المائدة: 64(
10.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ الْمُعْتَدِينَ)المائدة: 87(
11.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ الْخَائِنِينَ)الأنفال: 58(
12.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ كُلَّ خَوَّانٍ كَفُورٍ)الحج: 38(
13.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ الْفَرِحِينَ)القصص: 76(
14.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ الْمُفْسِدِينَ)القصص: 77(
15.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ كُلَّ مُخْتَالٍ فَخُورٍ)لقمان: 18(
16.   وَ اللَّهُ لَا يُحِبُّ كُلَّ مُخْتَالٍ فَخُورٍ)الحديد: 23(


^the word dazzling is repeated 16 times in the Quran :

1.   وَإِذْ قُلْتُمْ يَا مُوسَىٰ لَن نُّؤْمِنَ لَكَ حَتَّىٰ نَرَى اللَّهَ جَهْرَةً فَأَخَذَتْكُمُ الصَّاعِقَةُ وَأَنتُمْ تَنظُرُونَ البقرة - الآية 55
2.   لَّا يُحِبُّ اللَّهُ الْجَهْرَ بِالسُّوءِ مِنَ الْقَوْلِ إِلَّا مَن ظُلِمَ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ سَمِيعًا عَلِيمًا النساء - الآية 148
3.     يَسْأَلُكَ أَهْلُ الْكِتَابِ أَن تُنَزِّلَ عَلَيْهِمْ كِتَابًا مِّنَ السَّمَاءِ فَقَدْ سَأَلُوا مُوسَىٰ أَكْبَرَ مِن ذَٰلِكَ فَقَالُوا أَرِنَا اللَّهَ جَهْرَةً فَأَخَذَتْهُمُ الصَّاعِقَةُ بِظُلْمِهِمْ ثُمَّ اتَّخَذُوا الْعِجْلَ مِن بَعْدِ مَا جَاءَتْهُمُ الْبَيِّنَاتُ  فَعَفَوْنَا عَن ذَٰلِكَ وَآتَيْنَا مُوسَىٰ سُلْطَانًا مُّبِينًا النساء - الآية 153
4.   وَهُوَ اللَّهُ فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَفِي الْأَرْضِ يَعْلَمُ سِرَّكُمْ وَجَهْرَكُمْ وَيَعْلَمُ مَا تَكْسِبُونَ الأنعام - الآية 3
5.   قُلْ أَرَأَيْتَكُمْ إِنْ أَتَاكُمْ عَذَابُ اللَّهِ بَغْتَةً أَوْ جَهْرَةً هَلْ يُهْلَكُ إِلَّا الْقَوْمُ الظَّالِمُونَ الأنعام - الآية 47
6.   وَاذْكُر رَّبَّكَ فِي نَفْسِكَ تَضَرُّعًا وَخِيفَةً وَدُونَ الْجَهْرِ مِنَ الْقَوْلِ بِالْغُدُوِّ وَالْآصَالِ وَلَا تَكُن مِّنَ الْغَافِلِينَ الأعراف 205
7.   سَوَاءٌ مِّنكُم مَّنْ أَسَرَّ الْقَوْلَ وَمَن جَهَرَ بِهِ وَمَنْ هُوَ مُسْتَخْفٍ بِاللَّيْلِ وَسَارِبٌ بِالنَّهَارِ الرعد - الآية 10
8.   ضَرَبَ اللَّهُ مَثَلًا عَبْدًا مَّمْلُوكًا لَّا يَقْدِرُ عَلَىٰ شَيْءٍ وَمَن رَّزَقْنَاهُ مِنَّا رِزْقًا حَسَنًا فَهُوَ  يُنفِقُ مِنْهُ سِرًّا وَجَهْرًا هَلْ يَسْتَوُونَ الْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ بَلْ أَكْثَرُهُمْ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ النحل - الآية 75
9.   قُلِ ادْعُوا اللَّهَ أَوِ ادْعُوا الرَّحْمَٰنَ أَيًّا مَّا تَدْعُوا فَلَهُ الْأَسْمَاءُ الْحُسْنَىٰ وَلَا تَجْهَرْ بِصَلَاتِكَ  وَلَا تُخَافِتْ بِهَا وَابْتَغِ بَيْنَ ذَٰلِكَ سَبِيلًا الإسراء - الآية 110
10.   وَإِن تَجْهَرْ بِالْقَوْلِ فَإِنَّهُ يَعْلَمُ السِّرَّ وَأَخْفَى طه - الآية 7
11.   إِنَّهُ يَعْلَمُ الْجَهْرَ مِنَ الْقَوْلِ وَيَعْلَمُ مَا تَكْتُمُونَ الأنبياء - الآية 110
12.   يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تَرْفَعُوا أَصْوَاتَكُمْ فَوْقَ صَوْتِ النَّبِيِّ وَلَا تَجْهَرُوا لَهُ
13.    بِالْقَوْلِ كَجَهْرِ بَعْضِكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ أَن تَحْبَطَ أَعْمَالُكُمْ وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ الحجرات - الآية 2
14.   وَأَسِرُّوا قَوْلَكُمْ أَوِ اجْهَرُوا بِهِ إِنَّهُ عَلِيمٌ بِذَاتِ الصُّدُورِ الملك - الآية 13
15.   إِلَّا مَا شَاءَ اللَّهُ إِنَّهُ يَعْلَمُ الْجَهْرَ وَمَا يَخْفَىٰ الأعلى - الآية 7
16.   ثُمَّ إِنِّي دَعَوْتُهُمْ جِهَارًا نوح - الآية 8

the word manifeste is repeated 16 times too :
1.   وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ مَا تُسِرُّونَ وَمَا تُعْلِنُونَ النحل - الآية 19
2.   أَلَّا يَسْجُدُوا لِلَّهِ الَّذِي يُخْرِجُ الْخَبْءَ فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَيَعْلَمُ مَا تُخْفُونَ وَمَا تُعْلِنُونَ النمل - الآية 25
3.   يَعْلَمُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَيَعْلَمُ مَا تُسِرُّونَ وَمَا تُعْلِنُونَ وَاللَّهُ عَلِيمٌ بِذَاتِ الصُّدُورِ التغابن - الآية 4
4.   يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تَتَّخِذُوا عَدُوِّي وَعَدُوَّكُمْ أَوْلِيَاءَ تُلْقُونَ إِلَيْهِم بِالْمَوَدَّةِ وَقَدْ كَفَرُوا بِمَا جَاءَكُم مِّنَ الْحَقِّ يُخْرِجُونَ الرَّسُولَ وَإِيَّاكُمْ أَن تُؤْمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ رَبِّكُمْ إِن كُنتُمْ خَرَجْتُمْ جِهَادًا فِي سَبِيلِي وَابْتِغَاءَ مَرْضَاتِي تُسِرُّونَ إِلَيْهِم بِالْمَوَدَّةِ وَأَنَا أَعْلَمُ بِمَا أَخْفَيْتُمْ وَمَا أَعْلَنتُمْ وَمَن يَفْعَلْهُ مِنكُمْ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ سَوَاءَ السَّبِيلِ الممتحنة - الآية 1
5.   ثُمَّ إِنِّي أَعْلَنتُ لَهُمْ وَأَسْرَرْتُ لَهُمْ إِسْرَارًا نوح - الآية 9
6.   أَوَلَا يَعْلَمُونَ أَنَّ اللَّهَ يَعْلَمُ مَا يُسِرُّونَ وَمَا يُعْلِنُونَ البقرة - الآية 77
7.   أَلَا إِنَّهُمْ يَثْنُونَ صُدُورَهُمْ لِيَسْتَخْفُوا مِنْهُ أَلَا حِينَ يَسْتَغْشُونَ ثِيَابَهُمْ  يَعْلَمُ مَا يُسِرُّونَ وَمَا يُعْلِنُونَ إِنَّهُ عَلِيمٌ بِذَاتِ الصُّدُورِ هود - الآية 5
8.   لَا جَرَمَ أَنَّ اللَّهَ يَعْلَمُ مَا يُسِرُّونَ وَمَا يُعْلِنُونَ إِنَّهُ لَا يُحِبُّ الْمُسْتَكْبِرِينَ النحل - الآية 23
9.   وَإِنَّ رَبَّكَ لَيَعْلَمُ مَا تُكِنُّ صُدُورُهُمْ وَمَا يُعْلِنُونَ النمل - الآية 74
10.   وَرَبُّكَ يَعْلَمُ مَا تُكِنُّ صُدُورُهُمْ وَمَا يُعْلِنُونَ القصص - الآية 69
11.   فَلَا يَحْزُنكَ قَوْلُهُمْ إِنَّا نَعْلَمُ مَا يُسِرُّونَ وَمَا يُعْلِنُونَ يس - الآية 76
12.   الَّذِينَ يُنفِقُونَ أَمْوَالَهُم بِاللَّيْلِ وَالنَّهَارِ سِرًّا وَعَلَانِيَةً فَلَهُمْ أَجْرُهُمْ  عِندَ رَبِّهِمْ وَلَا خَوْفٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلَا هُمْ يَحْزَنُونَ البقرة - الآية 274
13.   وَالَّذِينَ صَبَرُوا ابْتِغَاءَ وَجْهِ رَبِّهِمْ وَأَقَامُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَأَنفَقُوا مِمَّا رَزَقْنَاهُمْ سِرًّا وَعَلَانِيَةً وَيَدْرَءُونَ بِالْحَسَنَةِ السَّيِّئَةَ أُولَٰئِكَ لَهُمْ عُقْبَى الدَّارِ الرعد - الآية 22
14.   قُل لِّعِبَادِيَ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا يُقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَيُنفِقُوا مِمَّا رَزَقْنَاهُمْ سِرًّا  وَعَلَانِيَةً مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَ يَوْمٌ لَّا بَيْعٌ فِيهِ وَلَا خِلَالٌ ابراهيم - الآية 31
15.   إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يَتْلُونَ كِتَابَ اللَّهِ وَأَقَامُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَأَنفَقُوا مِمَّا رَزَقْنَاهُمْ سِرًّا وَعَلَانِيَةً يَرْجُونَ تِجَارَةً لَّن تَبُورَ فاطر - 29
16.   رَبَّنَا إِنَّكَ تَعْلَمُ مَا نُخْفِي وَمَا نُعْلِنُ وَمَا يَخْفَىٰ عَلَى اللَّهِ مِن شَيْءٍ فِي الْأَرْضِ وَلَا فِي السَّمَاءِ ابراهيم - الآية 38

the name of Adam is repeated 25 times in the Quran :
1.   عَلَّمَ آدَمَ الْأَسْمَاءَ كُلَّهَا ثُمَّ عَرَضَهُمْ عَلَى الْمَلَائِكَةِ فَقَالَ أَنبِئُونِي بِأَسْمَاءِ هَٰؤلاء إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ )البقرة-31(
2.   قَالَ يَا آدَمُ أَنبِئْهُم بِأَسْمَائِهِمْ ۖ فَلَمَّا أَنبَأَهُم بِأَسْمَائِهِمْ قَالَ أَلَمْ أَقُل لَّكُمْ إِنِّي أَعْلَمُ غَيْبَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَأَعْلَمُ مَا تُبْدُونَ وَمَا كُنتُمْ تَكْتُمُونَ) البقرة - الآية 33(
3.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ وَاسْتَكْبَرَ وَكَانَ مِنَ الْكَافِرِين(البقرة - الآية 34(
4.   وَقُلْنَا يَا آدَمُ اسْكُنْ أَنتَ وَزَوْجُكَ الْجَنَّةَ وَكُلَا مِنْهَا رَغَدًا حَيْثُ شِئْتُمَا وَلَا تَقْرَبَا  هَٰذِهِ الشَّجَرَةَ فَتَكُونَا مِنَ الظَّالِمِينَ) البقرة - الآية 35(
5.   فَتَلَقَّىٰ آدَمُ مِن رَّبِّهِ كَلِمَاتٍ فَتَابَ عَلَيْهِ ۚ إِنَّهُ هُوَ التَّوَّابُ الرَّحِيم(البقرة - الآية 37(
6.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ اصْطَفَىٰ آدَمَ وَنُوحًا وَآلَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَآلَ عِمْرَانَ عَلَى الْعَالَمِينَ(آل عمران - الآية 33(
7.   إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ اللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ)آل عمران - الآية 59(
8.   وَاتْلُ عَلَيْهِمْ نَبَأَ ابْنَيْ آدَمَ بِالْحَقِّ إِذْ قَرَّبَا قُرْبَانًا فَتُقُبِّلَ مِنْ أَحَدِهِمَا   وَلَمْ يُتَقَبَّلْ مِنَ الْآخَرِ قَالَ لَأَقْتُلَنَّكَ ۖ قَالَ إِنَّمَا يَتَقَبَّلُ اللَّهُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ )المائدة – الآية27(
9.   وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَاكُمْ ثُمَّ صَوَّرْنَاكُمْ ثُمَّ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ لَمْ يَكُن مِّنَ السَّاجِدِينَ الأعراف - 11
10.   وَيَا آدَمُ اسْكُنْ أَنتَ وَزَوْجُكَ الْجَنَّةَ فَكُلَا مِنْ حَيْثُ شِئْتُمَا وَلَا تَقْرَبَا هَٰذِهِ الشَّجَرَةَ فَتَكُونَا مِنَ الظَّالِمِينَالأعراف - 19
11.   يَا بَنِي آدَمَ قَدْ أَنزَلْنَا عَلَيْكُمْ لِبَاسًا يُوَارِي سَوْآتِكُمْ وَرِيشًا ۖ وَلِبَاسُ التَّقْوَىٰ ذَٰلِكَ خَيْرٌ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ مِنْ آيَاتِ اللَّهِ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَذَّكَّرُونَ الأعراف - الآية 26
12.   يَا بَنِي آدَمَ لَا يَفْتِنَنَّكُمُ الشَّيْطَانُ كَمَا أَخْرَجَ أَبَوَيْكُم مِّنَ الْجَنَّةِ يَنزِعُ عَنْهُمَا لِبَاسَهُمَا لِيُرِيَهُمَا سَوْآتِهِمَا ۗ إِنَّهُ يَرَاكُمْ هُوَ وَقَبِيلُهُ مِنْ حَيْثُ لَا تَرَوْنَهُمْ ۗ إِنَّا جَعَلْنَا الشَّيَاطِينَ أَوْلِيَاءَ لِلَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُون) الأعراف - الآية 27
13.   يَا بَنِي آدَمَ خُذُوا زِينَتَكُمْ عِندَ كُلِّ مَسْجِدٍ وَكُلُوا وَاشْرَبُوا وَلَا تُسْرِفُوا ۚ إِنَّهُ لَا يُحِبُّ الْمُسْرِفِينَ  )الأعراف - الآية 31(
14.   يَا بَنِي آدَمَ إِمَّا يَأْتِيَنَّكُمْ رُسُلٌ مِّنكُمْ يَقُصُّونَ عَلَيْكُمْ آيَاتِي ۙ فَمَنِ اتَّقَىٰ وَأَصْلَحَ فَلَا خَوْفٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلَا هُمْ يَحْزَنُونَ)   الأعراف-الآية 35(
15.   وَإِذْ أَخَذَ رَبُّكَ مِن بَنِي آدَمَ مِن ظُهُورِهِمْ ذُرِّيَّتَهُمْ وَأَشْهَدَهُمْ عَلَىٰ أَنفُسِهِمْ أَلَسْتُ بِرَبِّكُمْ  قَالُوا بَلَىٰ شَهِدْنَا أَن تَقُولُوا يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ إِنَّا كُنَّا عَنْ هَٰذَا غَافِلِينَ) الأعراف - الآية 172(
16.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ قَالَ أَأَسْجُدُ لِمَنْ خَلَقْتَ طِينًا)الإسراء - الآية 61(
17.   وَلَقَدْ كَرَّمْنَا بَنِي آدَمَ وَحَمَلْنَاهُمْ فِي الْبَرِّ وَالْبَحْرِ وَرَزَقْنَاهُم مِّنَ  الطَّيِّبَاتِ وَفَضَّلْنَاهُمْ عَلَىٰ كَثِيرٍ مِّمَّنْ خَلَقْنَا تَفْضِيلًا) الإسراء - الآية 70(
18.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ كَانَ مِنَ الْجِنِّ فَفَسَقَعَنْ أَمْرِ رَبِّهِ ۗ أَفَتَتَّخِذُونَهُ  وَذُرِّيَّتَهُ أَوْلِيَاءَ مِن دُونِي وَهُمْ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ ۚ بِئْسَ لظَّالِمِينَ بَدَلًا)الكهف - الآية 50(
19.   أُولَٰئِكَ الَّذِينَ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِم مِّنَ النَّبِيِّينَ مِن ذُرِّيَّةِ آدَمَ وَمِمَّنْ حَمَلْنَا مَعَ نُوحٍ وَمِن ذُرِّيَّةِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْرَائِيلَ وَمِمَّنْ هَدَيْنَا وَاجْتَبَيْنَا ۚ إِذَا تُتْلَىٰ عَلَيْهِمْ آيَاتُ الرَّحْمَٰنِ خَرُّوا سُجَّدًا وَبُكِيًّا )مريم- 58(
20.   وَلَقَدْ عَهِدْنَا إِلَىٰ آدَمَ مِن قَبْلُ فَنَسِيَ وَلَمْ نَجِدْ لَهُ عَزْمًا )طه - الآية 115(
21.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ )طه - الآية 116(
22.   فَقُلْنَا يَا آدَمُ إِنَّ هَٰذَا عَدُوٌّ لَّكَ وَلِزَوْجِكَ فَلَا يُخْرِجَنَّكُمَا مِنَ الْجَنَّةِ فَتَشْقَى)طه - الآية 117(
23.   فَوَسْوَسَ إِلَيْهِ الشَّيْطَانُ قَالَ يَا آدَمُ هَلْ أَدُلُّكَ عَلَىٰ شَجَرَةِ الْخُلْدِ وَمُلْكٍ لَّا يَبْلَىٰ) طه-الآية 120(
24.   فَأَكَلَا مِنْهَا فَبَدَتْ لَهُمَا سَوْآتُهُمَا وَطَفِقَا يَخْصِفَانِ عَلَيْهِمَا مِن وَرَقِ الْجَنَّةِ ۚ وَعَصَىٰ آدَمُ رَبَّهُ فَغَوَىٰ  طه - 121
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2015, 02:12:12 PM »
Ok, so why don't you think that the sun is what we think it is?
gas disperses. fire cannot burn in vacuum. simple stuff.

The Sun is not on fire, it's fusing hydrogen into helium.  Also, the Sun has gravity that keeps the gas from dispersing.
ah, your magic gravity, which affects only dense objects, and yet works not only on gas, but the two least dense gases of hydrogen and helium. think about it.

Gravity doesn't only effect dence objects, density is not even a variable in the gravity equasion.  What matters is mass, regardless of how tightly it's packed.  If you think that gravity is wrong because there is no explenation for it, consider this:

Magnetism can't be explained, it's just an intrinsic property of fundamental particles that result in magnetic fields.  Does magnetism not exist?

Nobody knows why sleep is nesesary.  Is sleep not necessary?

By your reasoning sleep and magnetism are just magical things that can't be taken seriously because there is no explanation.
mass and density are related. try again.
gravity is magical because you only apply it when it's convenient, and in no consistent way. helium and hydrogen are the least massive of all the elements, and yet the sun has more gravity than the earth. does that really make sense to you?

The variables in the gravity equasion are the masses of the objects in question, the gravitational constant, and the distance.  Note how density is not one of them.  There is a difference between only taking gravity into account when it's convenient and only taking it into account when it will actually make a measurable difference.  You are gravitationally attracted to your computer, but you are standing in the Earth because it has dozens of powers of tens more mass.  Please name one instance where gravity is neglected even though it should be taken into account.
did you even read my comment?
mass depends on density. again, mass depends on density. you can't say gravity doesn't depend on density, just mass, because mass depends on density. if you change the density of an object, you change the mass. more density, more mass. the tiny density of hydrogen and helium, very little mass, and no gravity as you pretend the sun has.

on the moon image, there is no such crater in the full moon or the one on the left, you've just made it up because you want there to be. the other two are exactly as i described.

No, density depends on mass and volume, and sense volume is not a variable in the gravity equation it has no effect on gravity.  It doesn't matter if you have 10 pounds of lead or 10 pounds of Styrofoam, they have the same amount of gravity.  It should be noted however that when dealing with gravity you measure the distance from the center of mass of the objects in question, so the surface gravity of 10 pounds of lead is greater then that of 10 pounds of Styrofoam simply because the surface of the Styrofoam is further from the center of mass then the surface of the lead, but if you are the same distance away from both objects then you will feel the same gravitational pull from each of them.

As for the crater, it's simply harder to see when it's in direct sunlight because when the sunlight in angled it has a long shadow, but you can easily see the ejecta around the crater and you can also look at the darker spots on the Moon to see that the same side is always facing us.
how can you honestly say that gravity does not depend on density? density is in every equation of gravity: it is how mass is defined. you replace mass with its definition in terms of density, giving the same equation, now in terms of density. gravity depends on density. the sun is not dense.
by your logic humans don't need oxygen to breathe, we just need air.

so now you have the sun able to shine sideways onto the moon while on the other side of the earth, and not visible from the side of the earth facing the moon? even if what you said made sense, you've done away with round earth nonsense.
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #75 on: February 20, 2015, 02:15:42 PM »
the word SATAN is repeated 11 times in The Quran

1.   إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ اسْتَكْبَرَ وَكَانَ مِنَ الْكَافِرِينَ (ص- الآية 74)
2.   قَالَ يَا إِبْلِيسُ مَا مَنَعَكَ أَن تَسْجُدَ لِمَا خَلَقْتُ بِيَدَيَّ (ص - الآية 75)
3.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ وَاسْتَكْبَرَ وَكَانَ مِنَ الْكَافِرِينَ (البقرة - الآية34)
4.   وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَاكُمْ ثُمَّ صَوَّرْنَاكُمْ ثُمَّ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ لَمْ يَكُن مِّنَ السَّاجِدِين (الأعراف- 11)         
5.   إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ أَن يَكُونَ مَعَ السَّاجِدِينَ (الحجر-الآية 31)
6.   قَالَ يَا إِبْلِيسُ مَا لَكَ أَلَّا تَكُونَ مَعَ السَّاجِدِين (الحجر-الآية 32)
7.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ قَالَ أَأَسْجُدُ لِمَنْ خَلَقْتَ طِينًا (الإسراء-الآية 61)
8.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ كَانَ مِنَ الْجِنِّ فَفَسَقَ عَنْ أَمْرِ رَبِّهِ (الكهف 50)
9.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ (طه - الآية 116)
10     وَجُنُودُ إِبْلِيسَ أَجْمَعُونَ (الشعراء - الآية 95)
11   وَلَقَدْ صَدَّقَ عَلَيْهِمْ إِبْلِيسُ ظَنَّهُ فَاتَّبَعُوهُ إِلَّا فَرِيقًا مِّنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ (سبإ - الآية 20)

the word Protection of God against the devil is repeated 11 Times too.

1.   وَإِمَّا يَنزَغَنَّكَ مِنَ الشَّيْطَانِ نَزْغٌ فَاسْتَعِذْ بِاللَّهِ إِنَّهُ سَمِيعٌ عَلِيمٌ) الأعراف - الآية 200)
2.   فَإِذَا قَرَأْتَ الْقُرْآنَ فَاسْتَعِذْ بِاللَّهِ مِنَ الشَّيْطَانِ الرَّجِيمِ) النحل - الآية 98)
3.   إِن فِي صُدُورِهِمْ إِلَّا كِبْرٌ مَّا هُم بِبَالِغِيهِ فَاسْتَعِذْ بِاللَّهِ  إِنَّهُ هُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْبَصِيرُ)  غافر - الآية 56)
4.   وَإِمَّا يَنزَغَنَّكَ مِنَ الشَّيْطَانِ نَزْغٌ فَاسْتَعِذْ بِاللَّهِ  إِنَّهُ هُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيم)  فصلت - الآية 36)
5.   قَالَ أَعُوذُ بِاللَّهِ أَنْ أَكُونَ مِنَ الْجَاهِلِينَ) البقرة - الآية 67)
6.   قَالَ رَبِّ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِكَ أَنْ أَسْأَلَكَ مَا لَيْسَ لِي بِهِ عِلْم ) هود - الآية 47)
7.   قَالَتْ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِالرَّحْمَٰنِ مِنكَ إِن كُنتَ تَقِيًّا) مريم - الآية 18)
8.   وقُل رَّبِّ أَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنْ هَمَزَاتِ الشَّيَاطِينِ) المؤمنون - الآية 97)
9.   وَأَعُوذُ بِكَ رَبِّ أَن يَحْضُرُونِ) المؤمنون - الآية 98)
10   قُلْ أَعُوذُ بِرَبِّ الْفَلَقِ) الفلق - الآية 1)
11   قُلْ أَعُوذُ بِرَبِّ النَّاس)   الناس - الآية 1)
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #76 on: February 20, 2015, 02:25:59 PM »
Ok, so why don't you think that the sun is what we think it is?
gas disperses. fire cannot burn in vacuum. simple stuff.

The Sun is not on fire, it's fusing hydrogen into helium.  Also, the Sun has gravity that keeps the gas from dispersing.
ah, your magic gravity, which affects only dense objects, and yet works not only on gas, but the two least dense gases of hydrogen and helium. think about it.

Gravity doesn't only effect dence objects, density is not even a variable in the gravity equasion.  What matters is mass, regardless of how tightly it's packed.  If you think that gravity is wrong because there is no explenation for it, consider this:

Magnetism can't be explained, it's just an intrinsic property of fundamental particles that result in magnetic fields.  Does magnetism not exist?

Nobody knows why sleep is nesesary.  Is sleep not necessary?

By your reasoning sleep and magnetism are just magical things that can't be taken seriously because there is no explanation.
mass and density are related. try again.
gravity is magical because you only apply it when it's convenient, and in no consistent way. helium and hydrogen are the least massive of all the elements, and yet the sun has more gravity than the earth. does that really make sense to you?

The variables in the gravity equasion are the masses of the objects in question, the gravitational constant, and the distance.  Note how density is not one of them.  There is a difference between only taking gravity into account when it's convenient and only taking it into account when it will actually make a measurable difference.  You are gravitationally attracted to your computer, but you are standing in the Earth because it has dozens of powers of tens more mass.  Please name one instance where gravity is neglected even though it should be taken into account.
did you even read my comment?
mass depends on density. again, mass depends on density. you can't say gravity doesn't depend on density, just mass, because mass depends on density. if you change the density of an object, you change the mass. more density, more mass. the tiny density of hydrogen and helium, very little mass, and no gravity as you pretend the sun has.

on the moon image, there is no such crater in the full moon or the one on the left, you've just made it up because you want there to be. the other two are exactly as i described.

No, density depends on mass and volume, and sense volume is not a variable in the gravity equation it has no effect on gravity.  It doesn't matter if you have 10 pounds of lead or 10 pounds of Styrofoam, they have the same amount of gravity.  It should be noted however that when dealing with gravity you measure the distance from the center of mass of the objects in question, so the surface gravity of 10 pounds of lead is greater then that of 10 pounds of Styrofoam simply because the surface of the Styrofoam is further from the center of mass then the surface of the lead, but if you are the same distance away from both objects then you will feel the same gravitational pull from each of them.

As for the crater, it's simply harder to see when it's in direct sunlight because when the sunlight in angled it has a long shadow, but you can easily see the ejecta around the crater and you can also look at the darker spots on the Moon to see that the same side is always facing us.
how can you honestly say that gravity does not depend on density? density is in every equation of gravity: it is how mass is defined. you replace mass with its definition in terms of density, giving the same equation, now in terms of density. gravity depends on density. the sun is not dense.
by your logic humans don't need oxygen to breathe, we just need air.

so now you have the sun able to shine sideways onto the moon while on the other side of the earth, and not visible from the side of the earth facing the moon? even if what you said made sense, you've done away with round earth nonsense.

Density and mass are completely different measurements, density is how much mas is in a given volume and mass is how much matter is in an object.  Gravity is independent of volume and mass is what matters, like I said before 10 pounds of Styrofoam has the same gravity as 10 pounds of lead even though the Styrofoam is less dense then the lead.  Density is determined by dividing mass by volume and it is irrelevant when dealing with gravity, an object has a constant gravitational pull regardless of it's shape and size as long as it has the same amount of matter making it up, it could be large, small, or even shaped like a boot or the statue of liberty and still have the same gravitational pull.  Why is this so hard for you to understand?
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #77 on: February 20, 2015, 02:34:55 PM »
Ok, so why don't you think that the sun is what we think it is?
gas disperses. fire cannot burn in vacuum. simple stuff.

The Sun is not on fire, it's fusing hydrogen into helium.  Also, the Sun has gravity that keeps the gas from dispersing.
ah, your magic gravity, which affects only dense objects, and yet works not only on gas, but the two least dense gases of hydrogen and helium. think about it.

Gravity doesn't only effect dence objects, density is not even a variable in the gravity equasion.  What matters is mass, regardless of how tightly it's packed.  If you think that gravity is wrong because there is no explenation for it, consider this:

Magnetism can't be explained, it's just an intrinsic property of fundamental particles that result in magnetic fields.  Does magnetism not exist?

Nobody knows why sleep is nesesary.  Is sleep not necessary?

By your reasoning sleep and magnetism are just magical things that can't be taken seriously because there is no explanation.
mass and density are related. try again.
gravity is magical because you only apply it when it's convenient, and in no consistent way. helium and hydrogen are the least massive of all the elements, and yet the sun has more gravity than the earth. does that really make sense to you?

The variables in the gravity equasion are the masses of the objects in question, the gravitational constant, and the distance.  Note how density is not one of them.  There is a difference between only taking gravity into account when it's convenient and only taking it into account when it will actually make a measurable difference.  You are gravitationally attracted to your computer, but you are standing in the Earth because it has dozens of powers of tens more mass.  Please name one instance where gravity is neglected even though it should be taken into account.
did you even read my comment?
mass depends on density. again, mass depends on density. you can't say gravity doesn't depend on density, just mass, because mass depends on density. if you change the density of an object, you change the mass. more density, more mass. the tiny density of hydrogen and helium, very little mass, and no gravity as you pretend the sun has.

on the moon image, there is no such crater in the full moon or the one on the left, you've just made it up because you want there to be. the other two are exactly as i described.

No, density depends on mass and volume, and sense volume is not a variable in the gravity equation it has no effect on gravity.  It doesn't matter if you have 10 pounds of lead or 10 pounds of Styrofoam, they have the same amount of gravity.  It should be noted however that when dealing with gravity you measure the distance from the center of mass of the objects in question, so the surface gravity of 10 pounds of lead is greater then that of 10 pounds of Styrofoam simply because the surface of the Styrofoam is further from the center of mass then the surface of the lead, but if you are the same distance away from both objects then you will feel the same gravitational pull from each of them.

As for the crater, it's simply harder to see when it's in direct sunlight because when the sunlight in angled it has a long shadow, but you can easily see the ejecta around the crater and you can also look at the darker spots on the Moon to see that the same side is always facing us.
how can you honestly say that gravity does not depend on density? density is in every equation of gravity: it is how mass is defined. you replace mass with its definition in terms of density, giving the same equation, now in terms of density. gravity depends on density. the sun is not dense.
by your logic humans don't need oxygen to breathe, we just need air.

so now you have the sun able to shine sideways onto the moon while on the other side of the earth, and not visible from the side of the earth facing the moon? even if what you said made sense, you've done away with round earth nonsense.

Density and mass are completely different measurements, density is how much mas is in a given volume and mass is how much matter is in an object.  Gravity is independent of volume and mass is what matters, like I said before 10 pounds of Styrofoam has the same gravity as 10 pounds of lead even though the Styrofoam is less dense then the lead.  Density is determined by dividing mass by volume and it is irrelevant when dealing with gravity, an object has a constant gravitational pull regardless of it's shape and size as long as it has the same amount of matter making it up, it could be large, small, or even shaped like a boot or the statue of liberty and still have the same gravitational pull.  Why is this so hard for you to understand?
it is hard to understand because you are making it up as you go along. first you pretend density doesn't matter, then you're proven wrong and you still act like it doesn't matter. density is part of the equations. if volume is independent, density is the part of mass that is the variable.
the sun does not have the density you need. the density of the sun, not only a gas but hydrogen and helium, is tiny. as a consequence, the mass is tiny.
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #78 on: February 20, 2015, 02:39:33 PM »
the word Adam is repeated 25 times in the Quran :

1.   عَلَّمَ آدَمَ الْأَسْمَاءَ كُلَّهَا ثُمَّ عَرَضَهُمْ عَلَى الْمَلَائِكَةِ فَقَالَ أَنبِئُونِي بِأَسْمَاءِ هَٰؤلاء إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ )البقرة-31(
2.   قَالَ يَا آدَمُ أَنبِئْهُم بِأَسْمَائِهِمْ ۖ فَلَمَّا أَنبَأَهُم بِأَسْمَائِهِمْ قَالَ أَلَمْ أَقُل لَّكُمْ إِنِّي أَعْلَمُ غَيْبَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَأَعْلَمُ مَا تُبْدُونَ وَمَا كُنتُمْ تَكْتُمُونَ) البقرة - الآية 33(
3.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ وَاسْتَكْبَرَ وَكَانَ مِنَ الْكَافِرِين(البقرة - الآية 34(
4.   وَقُلْنَا يَا آدَمُ اسْكُنْ أَنتَ وَزَوْجُكَ الْجَنَّةَ وَكُلَا مِنْهَا رَغَدًا حَيْثُ شِئْتُمَا وَلَا تَقْرَبَا  هَٰذِهِ الشَّجَرَةَ فَتَكُونَا مِنَ الظَّالِمِينَ) البقرة - الآية 35(
5.   فَتَلَقَّىٰ آدَمُ مِن رَّبِّهِ كَلِمَاتٍ فَتَابَ عَلَيْهِ ۚ إِنَّهُ هُوَ التَّوَّابُ الرَّحِيم(البقرة - الآية 37(
6.   إِنَّ اللَّهَ اصْطَفَىٰ آدَمَ وَنُوحًا وَآلَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَآلَ عِمْرَانَ عَلَى الْعَالَمِينَ(آل عمران - الآية 33(
7.   إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ اللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ)آل عمران - الآية 59(
8.   وَاتْلُ عَلَيْهِمْ نَبَأَ ابْنَيْ آدَمَ بِالْحَقِّ إِذْ قَرَّبَا قُرْبَانًا فَتُقُبِّلَ مِنْ أَحَدِهِمَا   وَلَمْ يُتَقَبَّلْ مِنَ الْآخَرِ قَالَ لَأَقْتُلَنَّكَ ۖ قَالَ إِنَّمَا يَتَقَبَّلُ اللَّهُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ )المائدة – الآية27(
9.   وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَاكُمْ ثُمَّ صَوَّرْنَاكُمْ ثُمَّ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ لَمْ يَكُن مِّنَ السَّاجِدِينَ الأعراف - 11
10.   وَيَا آدَمُ اسْكُنْ أَنتَ وَزَوْجُكَ الْجَنَّةَ فَكُلَا مِنْ حَيْثُ شِئْتُمَا وَلَا تَقْرَبَا هَٰذِهِ الشَّجَرَةَ فَتَكُونَا مِنَ الظَّالِمِينَالأعراف - 19
11.   يَا بَنِي آدَمَ قَدْ أَنزَلْنَا عَلَيْكُمْ لِبَاسًا يُوَارِي سَوْآتِكُمْ وَرِيشًا ۖ وَلِبَاسُ التَّقْوَىٰ ذَٰلِكَ خَيْرٌ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ مِنْ آيَاتِ اللَّهِ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَذَّكَّرُونَ الأعراف - الآية 26
12.   يَا بَنِي آدَمَ لَا يَفْتِنَنَّكُمُ الشَّيْطَانُ كَمَا أَخْرَجَ أَبَوَيْكُم مِّنَ الْجَنَّةِ يَنزِعُ عَنْهُمَا لِبَاسَهُمَا لِيُرِيَهُمَا سَوْآتِهِمَا ۗ إِنَّهُ يَرَاكُمْ هُوَ وَقَبِيلُهُ مِنْ حَيْثُ لَا تَرَوْنَهُمْ ۗ إِنَّا جَعَلْنَا الشَّيَاطِينَ أَوْلِيَاءَ لِلَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُون) الأعراف - الآية 27
13.   يَا بَنِي آدَمَ خُذُوا زِينَتَكُمْ عِندَ كُلِّ مَسْجِدٍ وَكُلُوا وَاشْرَبُوا وَلَا تُسْرِفُوا ۚ إِنَّهُ لَا يُحِبُّ الْمُسْرِفِينَ  )الأعراف - الآية 31(
14.   يَا بَنِي آدَمَ إِمَّا يَأْتِيَنَّكُمْ رُسُلٌ مِّنكُمْ يَقُصُّونَ عَلَيْكُمْ آيَاتِي ۙ فَمَنِ اتَّقَىٰ وَأَصْلَحَ فَلَا خَوْفٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلَا هُمْ يَحْزَنُونَ)   الأعراف-الآية 35(
15.   وَإِذْ أَخَذَ رَبُّكَ مِن بَنِي آدَمَ مِن ظُهُورِهِمْ ذُرِّيَّتَهُمْ وَأَشْهَدَهُمْ عَلَىٰ أَنفُسِهِمْ أَلَسْتُ بِرَبِّكُمْ  قَالُوا بَلَىٰ شَهِدْنَا أَن تَقُولُوا يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ إِنَّا كُنَّا عَنْ هَٰذَا غَافِلِينَ) الأعراف - الآية 172(
16.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ قَالَ أَأَسْجُدُ لِمَنْ خَلَقْتَ طِينًا)الإسراء - الآية 61(
17.   وَلَقَدْ كَرَّمْنَا بَنِي آدَمَ وَحَمَلْنَاهُمْ فِي الْبَرِّ وَالْبَحْرِ وَرَزَقْنَاهُم مِّنَ  الطَّيِّبَاتِ وَفَضَّلْنَاهُمْ عَلَىٰ كَثِيرٍ مِّمَّنْ خَلَقْنَا تَفْضِيلًا) الإسراء - الآية 70(
18.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ كَانَ مِنَ الْجِنِّ فَفَسَقَعَنْ أَمْرِ رَبِّهِ ۗ أَفَتَتَّخِذُونَهُ  وَذُرِّيَّتَهُ أَوْلِيَاءَ مِن دُونِي وَهُمْ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ ۚ بِئْسَ لظَّالِمِينَ بَدَلًا)الكهف - الآية 50(
19.   أُولَٰئِكَ الَّذِينَ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِم مِّنَ النَّبِيِّينَ مِن ذُرِّيَّةِ آدَمَ وَمِمَّنْ حَمَلْنَا مَعَ نُوحٍ وَمِن ذُرِّيَّةِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْرَائِيلَ وَمِمَّنْ هَدَيْنَا وَاجْتَبَيْنَا ۚ إِذَا تُتْلَىٰ عَلَيْهِمْ آيَاتُ الرَّحْمَٰنِ خَرُّوا سُجَّدًا وَبُكِيًّا )مريم- 58(
20.   وَلَقَدْ عَهِدْنَا إِلَىٰ آدَمَ مِن قَبْلُ فَنَسِيَ وَلَمْ نَجِدْ لَهُ عَزْمًا )طه - الآية 115(
21.   وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ )طه - الآية 116(
22.   فَقُلْنَا يَا آدَمُ إِنَّ هَٰذَا عَدُوٌّ لَّكَ وَلِزَوْجِكَ فَلَا يُخْرِجَنَّكُمَا مِنَ الْجَنَّةِ فَتَشْقَى)طه - الآية 117(
23.   فَوَسْوَسَ إِلَيْهِ الشَّيْطَانُ قَالَ يَا آدَمُ هَلْ أَدُلُّكَ عَلَىٰ شَجَرَةِ الْخُلْدِ وَمُلْكٍ لَّا يَبْلَىٰ) طه-الآية 120(
24.   فَأَكَلَا مِنْهَا فَبَدَتْ لَهُمَا سَوْآتُهُمَا وَطَفِقَا يَخْصِفَانِ عَلَيْهِمَا مِن وَرَقِ الْجَنَّةِ ۚ وَعَصَىٰ آدَمُ رَبَّهُ فَغَوَىٰ  طه - 121
25.         أَلَمْ أَعْهَدْ إِلَيْكُمْ يَا بَنِي آدَمَ أَن لَّا تَعْبُدُوا الشَّيْطَانَ ۖ إِنَّهُ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ مُّبِينٌ)يس - الآية 60(

the word Jesus is repeated 25 times too :

1.   وَلَقَدْ آتَيْنَا مُوسَى الْكِتَابَ وَقَفَّيْنَا مِن بَعْدِهِ بِالرُّسُلِ ۖ وَآتَيْنَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ الْبَيِّنَاتِ وَأَيَّدْنَاهُ بِرُوحِ الْقُدُسِ أَفَكُلَّمَا جَاءَكُمْ رَسُولٌ بِمَا لَا تَهْوَىٰ أَنفُسُكُمُ اسْتَكْبَرْتُمْ فَفَرِيقًا كَذَّبْتُمْ وَفَرِيقًا تَقْتُلُونَ ) البقرة - الآية 87(
2.   قُولُوا آمَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَمَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْنَا وَمَا أُنزِلَ إِلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ وَإِسْحَاقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَالْأَسْبَاطِ وَمَا أُوتِيَ مُوسَىٰ وَعِيسَىٰ وَمَا أُوتِيَ النَّبِيُّونَ مِن رَّبِّهِمْ لَا نُفَرِّقُ بَيْنَ أَحَدٍ مِّنْهُمْ وَنَحْنُ لَهُ مُسْلِمُونَ)  البقرة - الآية 136(
3.   تِلْكَ الرُّسُلُ فَضَّلْنَا بَعْضَهُمْ عَلَىٰ بَعْضٍ ۘ مِّنْهُم مَّن كَلَّمَ اللَّهُ ۖ وَرَفَعَ بَعْضَهُمْ دَرَجَاتٍ ۚ وَآتَيْنَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ الْبَيِّنَاتِ وَأَيَّدْنَاهُ بِرُوحِ الْقُدُسِ ۗ وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ مَا اقْتَتَلَ الَّذِينَ مِن بَعْدِهِم مِّن بَعْدِ مَا جَاءَتْهُمُ الْبَيِّنَاتُ وَلَٰكِنِ اخْتَلَفُوا فَمِنْهُم مَّنْ آمَنَ وَمِنْهُم مَّن كَفَرَ ۚ وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ مَا اقْتَتَلُوا وَلَٰكِنَّ اللَّهَ يَفْعَلُ مَا يُرِيدُ) البقرة - الآية 253(
4.   إِذْ قَالَتِ الْمَلَائِكَةُ يَا مَرْيَمُ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُبَشِّرُكِ بِكَلِمَةٍ مِّنْهُ اسْمُهُ الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ  مَرْيَمَ وَجِيهًا فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالْآخِرَةِ وَمِنَ الْمُقَرَّبِينَ)  آل عمران - الآية 45(
5.   فَلَمَّا أَحَسَّ عِيسَىٰ مِنْهُمُ الْكُفْرَ قَالَ مَنْ أَنصَارِي إِلَى اللَّهِ ۖ قَالَ الْحَوَارِيُّونَ نَحْنُ أَنصَارُ اللَّهِ آمَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَاشْهَدْ بِأَنَّا مُسْلِمُونَ) آل عمران - الآية 52(
6.   إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَىٰ إِنِّي مُتَوَفِّيكَ وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَيَّ وَمُطَهِّرُكَ مِنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَجَاعِلُ الَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوكَ فَوْقَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا إِلَىٰ يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ ۖ ثُمَّ إِلَيَّ مَرْجِعُكُمْ فَأَحْكُمُ بَيْنَكُمْ فِيمَا كُنتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ) آل عمران - الآية 55  (
7.   إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ اللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ ۖ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ) آل عمران - 59(
8.   قُلْ آمَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَمَا أُنزِلَ عَلَيْنَا وَمَا أُنزِلَ عَلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ وَإِسْحَاقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَالْأَسْبَاطِ وَمَا أُوتِيَ مُوسَىٰ وَعِيسَىٰوَالنَّبِيُّونَ مِن رَّبِّهِمْ لَا نُفَرِّقُ بَيْنَ أَحَدٍ مِّنْهُمْ وَنَحْنُ لَهُ مُسْلِمُونَ)  آل عمران - الآية 84  (
9.   وَقَوْلِهِمْ إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا الْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ ۚ وَإِنَّ الَّذِينَ اخْتَلَفُوا فِيهِ لَفِي شَكٍّ مِّنْهُ ۚ مَا لَهُم بِهِ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِلَّا اتِّبَاعَ الظَّنِّ ۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ يَقِينًا)   النساء - الآية 157(
10.   إِنَّا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ كَمَا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَىٰ نُوحٍ وَالنَّبِيِّينَ مِن بَعْدِهِ ۚ وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ وَإِسْحَاقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَالْأَسْبَاطِ وَعِيسَىٰ وَأَيُّوبَ وَيُونُسَ وَهَارُونَ وَسُلَيْمَانَ ۚ وَآتَيْنَا دَاوُودَ زَبُورًا) النساء - الآية 163(
11.   يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لَا تَغْلُوا فِي دِينِكُمْ وَلَا تَقُولُوا عَلَى اللَّهِ إِلَّا الْحَقَّ ۚ إِنَّمَا الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ وَكَلِمَتُهُ أَلْقَاهَا إِلَىٰ مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنْهُ ۖ فَآمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِ ۖ وَلَا تَقُولُوا ثَلَاثَةٌ ۚ انتَهُوا خَيْرًا لَّكُمْ ۚ إِنَّمَا اللَّهُ إِلَٰهٌ وَاحِدٌ ۖ سُبْحَانَهُ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُ وَلَدٌ ۘ لَّهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ ۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِاللَّهِ وَكِيلًا) النساء - الآية 171(
12.   وَقَفَّيْنَا عَلَىٰ آثَارِهِم بِعِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ ۖ وَآتَيْنَاهُ الْإِنجِيلَ فِيهِ هُدًى وَنُورٌ وَمُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَهُدًى وَمَوْعِظَةً لِّلْمُتَّقِينَ) المائدة - الآية 46(
13.   لُعِنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِن بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ عَلَىٰ لِسَانِ دَاوُودَ وَعِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ بِمَا عَصَوا وَّكَانُوا يَعْتَدُونَ المائدة 78
14.   إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ اذْكُرْ نِعْمَتِي عَلَيْكَ وَعَلَىٰ وَالِدَتِكَ إِذْ أَيَّدتُّكَ بِرُوحِ الْقُدُسِ تُكَلِّمُ النَّاسَ فِي الْمَهْدِ وَكَهْلًا وَإِذْ عَلَّمْتُكَ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَالتَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنجِيلَ ۖ وَإِذْ تَخْلُقُ مِنَ الطِّينِ كَهَيْئَةِ الطَّيْرِ بِإِذْنِي فَتَنفُخُ فِيهَا فَتَكُونُ طَيْرًا بِإِذْنِي ۖ وَتُبْرِئُ الْأَكْمَهَ وَالْأَبْرَصَ بِإِذْنِي ۖ وَإِذْ تُخْرِجُ الْمَوْتَىٰ بِإِذْنِي ۖ وَإِذْ كَفَفْتُ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ عَنكَ إِذْ جِئْتَهُم بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ فَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْهُمْ إِنْ هَٰذَا إِلَّا سِحْرٌ مُّبِينٌ)  المائدة - الآية 110(
15.   إِذْ قَالَ الْحَوَارِيُّونَ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ هَلْ يَسْتَطِيعُ رَبُّكَ أَن يُنَزِّلَ عَلَيْنَا  مَائِدَةً  مِّنَ السَّمَاءِ ۖ قَالَ اتَّقُوا اللَّهَ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ) المائدة - الآية 112(
16.   قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ اللَّهُمَّ رَبَّنَا أَنزِلْ عَلَيْنَا مَائِدَةً مِّنَ السَّمَاءِ تَكُونُ  لَنَا عِيدًا لِّأَوَّلِنَا وَآخِرِنَا وَآيَةً مِّنكَ ۖ وَارْزُقْنَا وَأَنتَ خَيْرُ الرَّازِقِينَ) المائدة - الآية 114(
17.   وَإِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ أَأَنتَ قُلْتَ لِلنَّاسِ اتَّخِذُونِي وَأُمِّيَ إِلَٰهَيْنِمِن دُونِ اللَّهِ ۖ قَالَ سُبْحَانَكَ مَا يَكُونُ لِي أَنْ أَقُولَ مَا لَيْسَ لِي بِحَقٍّ ۚ إِنكُنتُ قُلْتُهُ فَقَدْ عَلِمْتَهُ ۚ تَعْلَمُ مَا فِي نَفْسِي وَلَا أَعْلَمُ مَا فِي                    نَفْسِكَ ۚ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ عَلَّامُ الْغُيُوبِ) المائدة - الآية 116(
18.   وَزَكَرِيَّا وَيَحْيَىٰ وَعِيسَىٰ وَإِلْيَاسَ ۖ كُلٌّ مِّنَ الصَّالِحِينَ)الأنعام–الآية85 (
19.   ذَٰلِكَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ ۚ قَوْلَ الْحَقِّ الَّذِي فِيهِ يَمْتَرُونَ) مريم - الآية 34(
20.   وَإِذْ أَخَذْنَا مِنَ النَّبِيِّينَ مِيثَاقَهُمْ وَمِنكَ وَمِن نُّوحٍ وَإِبْرَاهِيمَ وَمُوسَىٰ  وَعِيسَى  ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ ۖ وَأَخَذْنَا مِنْهُم مِّيثَاقًا غَلِيظًا) الأحزاب-الآية 7(
21.   شَرَعَ لَكُم مِّنَ الدِّينِ مَا وَصَّىٰ بِهِ نُوحًا وَالَّذِي أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ وَمَا وَصَّيْنَا بِهِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَمُوسَىٰ وَعِيسَىٰ       
 أَنْ أَقِيمُوا الدِّينَ وَلَا تَتَفَرَّقُوا فِيهِ ۚ كَبُرَ عَلَى الْمُشْرِكِينَ مَا تَدْعُوهُمْ إِلَيْهِ ۚ اللَّهُ يَجْتَبِي إِلَيْهِ مَن يَشَاءُ  وَيَهْدِي إِلَيْهِ مَن يُنِيبُ) الشورى-الآية 13(
22.   وَلَمَّا جَاءَ عِيسَىٰ بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ قَالَ قَدْ جِئْتُكُم بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَلِأُبَيِّنَ لَكُم بَعْضَ  الَّذِي تَخْتَلِفُونَ فِيهِ ۖ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُونِ) الزخرف-الآية 63(
23.   ثُمَّ قَفَّيْنَا عَلَىٰ آثَارِهِم بِرُسُلِنَا وَقَفَّيْنَا بِعِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ وَآتَيْنَاهُ الْإِنجِيلَ وَجَعَلْنَا فِي قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوهُ رَأْفَةً وَرَحْمَةً وَرَهْبَانِيَّةً ابْتَدَعُوهَا مَا كَتَبْنَاهَا عَلَيْهِمْ إِلَّا ابْتِغَاءَ رِضْوَانِ اللَّهِ فَمَا رَعَوْهَا                           حَقَّ رِعَايَتِهَا ۖ فَآتَيْنَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا مِن&
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"They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it"

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Re: Perspective
« Reply #79 on: February 20, 2015, 02:44:05 PM »
the word Jesus is repeated 25 times in the Quran :

1.   وَلَقَدْ آتَيْنَا مُوسَى الْكِتَابَ وَقَفَّيْنَا مِن بَعْدِهِ بِالرُّسُلِ ۖ وَآتَيْنَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ الْبَيِّنَاتِ وَأَيَّدْنَاهُ بِرُوحِ الْقُدُسِ أَفَكُلَّمَا جَاءَكُمْ رَسُولٌ بِمَا لَا تَهْوَىٰ أَنفُسُكُمُ اسْتَكْبَرْتُمْ فَفَرِيقًا كَذَّبْتُمْ وَفَرِيقًا تَقْتُلُونَ ) البقرة - الآية 87(
2.   قُولُوا آمَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَمَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْنَا وَمَا أُنزِلَ إِلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ وَإِسْحَاقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَالْأَسْبَاطِ وَمَا أُوتِيَ مُوسَىٰ وَعِيسَىٰ وَمَا أُوتِيَ النَّبِيُّونَ مِن رَّبِّهِمْ لَا نُفَرِّقُ بَيْنَ أَحَدٍ مِّنْهُمْ وَنَحْنُ لَهُ مُسْلِمُونَ)  البقرة - الآية 136(
3.   تِلْكَ الرُّسُلُ فَضَّلْنَا بَعْضَهُمْ عَلَىٰ بَعْضٍ ۘ مِّنْهُم مَّن كَلَّمَ اللَّهُ ۖ وَرَفَعَ بَعْضَهُمْ دَرَجَاتٍ ۚ وَآتَيْنَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ الْبَيِّنَاتِ وَأَيَّدْنَاهُ بِرُوحِ الْقُدُسِ ۗ وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ مَا اقْتَتَلَ الَّذِينَ مِن بَعْدِهِم مِّن بَعْدِ مَا جَاءَتْهُمُ الْبَيِّنَاتُ وَلَٰكِنِ اخْتَلَفُوا فَمِنْهُم مَّنْ آمَنَ وَمِنْهُم مَّن كَفَرَ ۚ وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ مَا اقْتَتَلُوا وَلَٰكِنَّ اللَّهَ يَفْعَلُ مَا يُرِيدُ) البقرة - الآية 253(
4.   إِذْ قَالَتِ الْمَلَائِكَةُ يَا مَرْيَمُ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُبَشِّرُكِ بِكَلِمَةٍ مِّنْهُ اسْمُهُ الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ  مَرْيَمَ وَجِيهًا فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالْآخِرَةِ وَمِنَ الْمُقَرَّبِينَ)  آل عمران - الآية 45(
5.   فَلَمَّا أَحَسَّ عِيسَىٰ مِنْهُمُ الْكُفْرَ قَالَ مَنْ أَنصَارِي إِلَى اللَّهِ ۖ قَالَ الْحَوَارِيُّونَ نَحْنُ أَنصَارُ اللَّهِ آمَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَاشْهَدْ بِأَنَّا مُسْلِمُونَ) آل عمران - الآية 52(
6.   إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَىٰ إِنِّي مُتَوَفِّيكَ وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَيَّ وَمُطَهِّرُكَ مِنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَجَاعِلُ الَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوكَ فَوْقَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا إِلَىٰ يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ ۖ ثُمَّ إِلَيَّ مَرْجِعُكُمْ فَأَحْكُمُ بَيْنَكُمْ فِيمَا كُنتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ) آل عمران - الآية 55  (
7.   إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ اللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ ۖ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ) آل عمران - 59(
8.   قُلْ آمَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَمَا أُنزِلَ عَلَيْنَا وَمَا أُنزِلَ عَلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ وَإِسْحَاقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَالْأَسْبَاطِ وَمَا أُوتِيَ مُوسَىٰ وَعِيسَىٰوَالنَّبِيُّونَ مِن رَّبِّهِمْ لَا نُفَرِّقُ بَيْنَ أَحَدٍ مِّنْهُمْ وَنَحْنُ لَهُ مُسْلِمُونَ)  آل عمران - الآية 84  (
9.   وَقَوْلِهِمْ إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا الْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ ۚ وَإِنَّ الَّذِينَ اخْتَلَفُوا فِيهِ لَفِي شَكٍّ مِّنْهُ ۚ مَا لَهُم بِهِ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِلَّا اتِّبَاعَ الظَّنِّ ۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ يَقِينًا)   النساء - الآية 157(
10.   إِنَّا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ كَمَا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَىٰ نُوحٍ وَالنَّبِيِّينَ مِن بَعْدِهِ ۚ وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ وَإِسْحَاقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَالْأَسْبَاطِ وَعِيسَىٰ وَأَيُّوبَ وَيُونُسَ وَهَارُونَ وَسُلَيْمَانَ ۚ وَآتَيْنَا دَاوُودَ زَبُورًا) النساء - الآية 163(
11.   يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لَا تَغْلُوا فِي دِينِكُمْ وَلَا تَقُولُوا عَلَى اللَّهِ إِلَّا الْحَقَّ ۚ إِنَّمَا الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ وَكَلِمَتُهُ أَلْقَاهَا إِلَىٰ مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنْهُ ۖ فَآمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِ ۖ وَلَا تَقُولُوا ثَلَاثَةٌ ۚ انتَهُوا خَيْرًا لَّكُمْ ۚ إِنَّمَا اللَّهُ إِلَٰهٌ وَاحِدٌ ۖ سُبْحَانَهُ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُ وَلَدٌ ۘ لَّهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ ۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِاللَّهِ وَكِيلًا) النساء - الآية 171(
12.   وَقَفَّيْنَا عَلَىٰ آثَارِهِم بِعِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ ۖ وَآتَيْنَاهُ الْإِنجِيلَ فِيهِ هُدًى وَنُورٌ وَمُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَهُدًى وَمَوْعِظَةً لِّلْمُتَّقِينَ) المائدة - الآية 46(
13.   لُعِنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِن بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ عَلَىٰ لِسَانِ دَاوُودَ وَعِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ بِمَا عَصَوا وَّكَانُوا يَعْتَدُونَ المائدة 78
14.   إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ اذْكُرْ نِعْمَتِي عَلَيْكَ وَعَلَىٰ وَالِدَتِكَ إِذْ أَيَّدتُّكَ بِرُوحِ الْقُدُسِ تُكَلِّمُ النَّاسَ فِي الْمَهْدِ وَكَهْلًا وَإِذْ عَلَّمْتُكَ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَالتَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنجِيلَ ۖ وَإِذْ تَخْلُقُ مِنَ الطِّينِ كَهَيْئَةِ الطَّيْرِ بِإِذْنِي فَتَنفُخُ فِيهَا فَتَكُونُ طَيْرًا بِإِذْنِي ۖ وَتُبْرِئُ الْأَكْمَهَ وَالْأَبْرَصَ بِإِذْنِي ۖ وَإِذْ تُخْرِجُ الْمَوْتَىٰ بِإِذْنِي ۖ وَإِذْ كَفَفْتُ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ عَنكَ إِذْ جِئْتَهُم بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ فَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْهُمْ إِنْ هَٰذَا إِلَّا سِحْرٌ مُّبِينٌ)  المائدة - الآية 110(
15.   إِذْ قَالَ الْحَوَارِيُّونَ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ هَلْ يَسْتَطِيعُ رَبُّكَ أَن يُنَزِّلَ عَلَيْنَا  مَائِدَةً  مِّنَ السَّمَاءِ ۖ قَالَ اتَّقُوا اللَّهَ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ) المائدة - الآية 112(
16.   قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ اللَّهُمَّ رَبَّنَا أَنزِلْ عَلَيْنَا مَائِدَةً مِّنَ السَّمَاءِ تَكُونُ  لَنَا عِيدًا لِّأَوَّلِنَا وَآخِرِنَا وَآيَةً مِّنكَ ۖ وَارْزُقْنَا وَأَنتَ خَيْرُ الرَّازِقِينَ) المائدة - الآية 114(
17.   وَإِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ أَأَنتَ قُلْتَ لِلنَّاسِ اتَّخِذُونِي وَأُمِّيَ إِلَٰهَيْنِمِن دُونِ اللَّهِ ۖ قَالَ سُبْحَانَكَ مَا يَكُونُ لِي أَنْ أَقُولَ مَا لَيْسَ لِي بِحَقٍّ ۚ إِنكُنتُ قُلْتُهُ فَقَدْ عَلِمْتَهُ ۚ تَعْلَمُ مَا فِي نَفْسِي وَلَا أَعْلَمُ مَا فِي                    نَفْسِكَ ۚ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ عَلَّامُ الْغُيُوبِ) المائدة - الآية 116(
18.   وَزَكَرِيَّا وَيَحْيَىٰ وَعِيسَىٰ وَإِلْيَاسَ ۖ كُلٌّ مِّنَ الصَّالِحِينَ)الأنعام–الآية85 (
19.   ذَٰلِكَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ ۚ قَوْلَ الْحَقِّ الَّذِي فِيهِ يَمْتَرُونَ) مريم - الآية 34(
20.   وَإِذْ أَخَذْنَا مِنَ النَّبِيِّينَ مِيثَاقَهُمْ وَمِنكَ وَمِن نُّوحٍ وَإِبْرَاهِيمَ وَمُوسَىٰ  وَعِيسَى  ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ ۖ وَأَخَذْنَا مِنْهُم مِّيثَاقًا غَلِيظًا) الأحزاب-الآية 7(
21.   شَرَعَ لَكُم مِّنَ الدِّينِ مَا وَصَّىٰ بِهِ نُوحًا وَالَّذِي أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ وَمَا وَصَّيْنَا بِهِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَمُوسَىٰ وَعِيسَىٰ       
          أَنْ أَقِيمُوا الدِّينَ وَلَا تَتَفَرَّقُوا فِيهِ ۚ كَبُرَ عَلَى الْمُشْرِكِينَ مَا تَدْعُوهُمْ إِلَيْهِ ۚ اللَّهُ يَجْتَبِي إِلَيْهِ مَن يَشَاءُ  وَيَهْدِي إِلَيْهِ مَن يُنِيبُ) الشورى-الآية 13(
22.   وَلَمَّا جَاءَ عِيسَىٰ بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ قَالَ قَدْ جِئْتُكُم بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَلِأُبَيِّنَ لَكُم بَعْضَ  الَّذِي تَخْتَلِفُونَ فِيهِ ۖ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُونِ) الزخرف-الآية 63(
23.   ثُمَّ قَفَّيْنَا عَلَىٰ آثَارِهِم بِرُسُلِنَا وَقَفَّيْنَا بِعِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ وَآتَيْنَاهُ الْإِنجِيلَ وَجَعَلْنَا فِي قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ  اتَّبَعُوهُ رَأْفَةً وَرَحْمَةً وَرَهْبَانِيَّةً ابْتَدَعُوهَا مَا كَتَبْنَاهَا عَلَيْهِمْ إِلَّا ابْتِغَاءَ رِضْوَانِ اللَّهِ فَمَا رَعَوْهَا  حَقَّ رِعَايَتِهَا ۖ فَآتَيْنَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا مِنْهُمْ أَجْرَهُمْ ۖ وَكَثِيرٌ مِّنْهُمْ فَاسِقُونَ)الحديد-الآية 27(
24.   وَإِذْ قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ إِنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ إِلَيْكُم مُّصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَمُبَشِّرًا  بِرَسُولٍ يَأْتِي مِن بَعْدِي اسْمُهُ أَحْمَدُ ۖ فَلَمَّا جَاءَهُم بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ قَالُوا هَٰذَا سِحْرٌ مُّبِينٌ) الصف - الآية 6(
25.   يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا كُونُوا أَنصَارَ اللَّهِ كَمَا قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ لِلْحَوَارِيِّينَ مَنْ أَنصَارِي إِلَى اللَّهِقَالَ الْحَوَارِيُّونَ نَحْنُ أَنصَارُ اللَّهِ ۖ فَآمَنَت طَّائِفَةٌ مِّن بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ وَكَفَرَت طَّائِفَةٌ ۖ فَأَيَّدْنَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا عَلَىٰ عَدُوِّهِمْ فَأَصْبَحُوا ظَاهِرِينَ) الصف - الآية 14

Please, could you just stop ? These posts have nothing to do with the topic. Or with flat earth theory at all.
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #80 on: February 20, 2015, 02:49:51 PM »
ok ! I was just told that I should present some proofs, about the Quran...
the words in the Quran are surprisingly repeated the same number of times, (synonyms and antonyms ) it shows that the author of the Quran was a supernatural entity, otherwise no one can write such a book in the 7th century or even to day !
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #81 on: February 20, 2015, 02:56:25 PM »
ok ! I was just told that I should present some proofs, about the Quran...
the words in the Quran are surprisingly repeated the same number of times, (synonyms and antonyms )
it shows that the author of the Quran was a supernatural entity, otherwise no one can right such a book in the 7th century or even to day !

How does text from the Quran itself prove that it is a valid source of information?
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #82 on: February 20, 2015, 02:57:14 PM »
it is hard to understand because you are making it up as you go along. first you pretend density doesn't matter, then you're proven wrong and you still act like it doesn't matter. density is part of the equations. if volume is independent, density is the part of mass that is the variable.
the sun does not have the density you need. the density of the sun, not only a gas but hydrogen and helium, is tiny. as a consequence, the mass is tiny.

The surface gravity of the Sun is 28.02 times that of Earth's gravity or 274.6 m/s2, do you honestly think that any kind of gas can escape that kind of gravity?  If you don't believe be then do the calculations yourself, the Sun weighs 1.989x1030 kg and the distance of the surface to the center (AKA the radius of the Sun) is 695,800 km, just plug that in to the gravity equation and see what you get, but keep in mind that the equation requires a second mass and it outputs a force so you can just make up any mass as the second mass and then calculate it's speed under the force you get from the equation by dividing the force by your randomly chosen mass or you could just make the second mass 1 and save yourself some trouble because x/1=x and x*1=x, that will output an acceleration which will be the surface gravity of the Sun.  If you don't get 274.6 m/s2 then you did something wrong.
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #83 on: February 20, 2015, 03:02:27 PM »
ok ! I was just told that I should present some proofs, about the Quran...
the words in the Quran are surprisingly repeated the same number of times, (synonyms and antonyms )
it shows that the author of the Quran was a supernatural entity, otherwise no one can right such a book in the 7th century or even to day !

Mormon scholars highly suspect that the Quran is actually divinely inspired (I am a Mormon BTW), but I can't read what you post unless it's English and I think that's the case for just about everyone else here, so posting parts of the Quran won't do any good unless you translate it.
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #84 on: February 20, 2015, 03:04:28 PM »
the words in the Quran are surprisingly repeated the same number of times, (synonyms and antonyms )
it shows that the author of the Quran was a supernatural entity, otherwise no one can right such a book in the 7th century or even to day !
Um, could you explain the connection between these two steps a little more?
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #85 on: February 20, 2015, 07:57:34 PM »
ah, your magic gravity, which affects only dense objects, and yet works not only on gas, but the two least dense gases of hydrogen and helium. think about it.

Just like sceptimatic (coincidentally!) you have no in-depth understanding of the term "density".  Ergo, you're unable to understand the physics of gravitational attraction.


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Re: Perspective
« Reply #86 on: February 21, 2015, 02:50:41 AM »
ah, your magic gravity, which affects only dense objects, and yet works not only on gas, but the two least dense gases of hydrogen and helium. think about it.

Just like sceptimatic (coincidentally!) you have no in-depth understanding of the term "density".  Ergo, you're unable to understand the physics of gravitational attraction.

you're the one who struggles to understand the simplest things. as mass increases, gravity increases. as density increases, mass increase, that's what mass is.
if you disagree with either of those facts, you are wrong. use google.
obviously, this means as density increases, gravity increases. so, as the sun is not only a gas, but made out of hydrogen and helium, the two lightest elements, it should not have anywhere near the gravity you pretend it does. saying it has more gravity is wrong.
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Re: Perspective
« Reply #87 on: February 21, 2015, 04:31:31 AM »
This is a Q&A forum.  Everybody stop treating it like a playground. 

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Re: Perspective
« Reply #88 on: February 21, 2015, 10:34:23 AM »
ah, your magic gravity, which affects only dense objects, and yet works not only on gas, but the two least dense gases of hydrogen and helium. think about it.

Just like sceptimatic (coincidentally!) you have no in-depth understanding of the term "density".  Ergo, you're unable to understand the physics of gravitational attraction.

you're the one who struggles to understand the simplest things. as mass increases, gravity increases. as density increases, mass increase, that's what mass is.
if you disagree with either of those facts, you are wrong. use google.
obviously, this means as density increases, gravity increases. so, as the sun is not only a gas, but made out of hydrogen and helium, the two lightest elements, it should not have anywhere near the gravity you pretend it does. saying it has more gravity is wrong.

Increasing mass is not the only way to increase density, decreasong volume also makes density increase.  The Sun may not be very dense, but it has a LOT of mass, this is possible because the Sun is really big and so there is a lot of space for all that low density gas to be.  The same thing applies to gas giants, Saturn is huge but it actually has less mass then the Earth.  So do you agree that the RE surface gravity of the Sun is 274.6 m/s2?
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JRoweSkeptic

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Re: Perspective
« Reply #89 on: February 21, 2015, 11:44:31 AM »
ah, your magic gravity, which affects only dense objects, and yet works not only on gas, but the two least dense gases of hydrogen and helium. think about it.

Just like sceptimatic (coincidentally!) you have no in-depth understanding of the term "density".  Ergo, you're unable to understand the physics of gravitational attraction.

you're the one who struggles to understand the simplest things. as mass increases, gravity increases. as density increases, mass increase, that's what mass is.
if you disagree with either of those facts, you are wrong. use google.
obviously, this means as density increases, gravity increases. so, as the sun is not only a gas, but made out of hydrogen and helium, the two lightest elements, it should not have anywhere near the gravity you pretend it does. saying it has more gravity is wrong.

Increasing mass is not the only way to increase density, decreasong volume also makes density increase.  The Sun may not be very dense, but it has a LOT of mass, this is possible because the Sun is really big and so there is a lot of space for all that low density gas to be.  The same thing applies to gas giants, Saturn is huge but it actually has less mass then the Earth.  So do you agree that the RE surface gravity of the Sun is 274.6 m/s2?
the sun has no density though. round earthers say its gravity pulled it together, which the non-dense, small volume components would not have been able to give.
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