why we know the earth is flat

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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #60 on: February 17, 2015, 12:26:16 PM »
If you hold an apple and you get to be as small as a bacteria, it would look flat to you once you stand on anywhere of the apple.

Next, please.
wrong. there are no flat surfaces on a sphere. denying that doesn't make it true.

There are indeed no flat surfaces on a sphere, but if the sphere is really big then any small chunk of the surface would look pretty darn flat.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #61 on: February 17, 2015, 12:31:37 PM »
wrong. there are no flat surfaces on a sphere. denying that doesn't make it true.

There are indeed no flat surfaces on a sphere, but if the sphere is really big then any small chunk of the surface would look pretty darn flat.
People have been saying that since page one. At this point I think most people have given up. This is the person who thinks stars are secretly airplanes.

A final attempt: the angle covering a piece of a sphere decreases the more you zoom in. When the angle's tiny, how could you see it with the naked eye?
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #62 on: February 17, 2015, 02:03:58 PM »
If there are no flat surfaces on a sphere, does that mean there are no curved surfaces on a plane?  I see lots of curves in topography where I live in Colorado. 

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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #63 on: February 17, 2015, 02:34:49 PM »
There's no point to this thread any more, Scepti isn't going to let it go. Still don't know what you get out of making up all these different profiles, Scepti. Do you just need something to do? Is it a lack of friends? Twenty more profiles just makes you twenty times as pathetic. ::)

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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #64 on: February 19, 2015, 10:21:49 AM »
If there are no flat surfaces on a sphere, does that mean there are no curved surfaces on a plane?  I see lots of curves in topography where I live in Colorado.


If the earth was a sphere there would be no mountains in Colorado. Mountains can't exist sideways. But mountains make perfect sense on a flat surface. The OP is correct, have you ever seen any observable spherical object that somehow feels and looks flat? The answer is no, The argument that a large enough sphere will look flat is ridiculous and was never tested.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2015, 10:30:59 AM »
If you hold an apple and you get to be as small as a bacteria, it would look flat to you once you stand on anywhere of the apple.

Next, please.
wrong. there are no flat surfaces on a sphere. denying that doesn't make it true.

There are indeed no flat surfaces on a sphere, but if the sphere is really big then any small chunk of the surface would look pretty darn flat.
you keep saying that. maybe you should be working on coming up with something that's actually true.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #66 on: February 19, 2015, 10:32:34 AM »
If you hold an apple and you get to be as small as a bacteria, it would look flat to you once you stand on anywhere of the apple.

Next, please.
wrong. there are no flat surfaces on a sphere. denying that doesn't make it true.

There are indeed no flat surfaces on a sphere, but if the sphere is really big then any small chunk of the surface would look pretty darn flat.
you keep saying that. maybe you should be working on coming up with something that's actually true.

you keep misunderstanding that. If you were as little as a bacteria and stood on an apple, it would all look flat. And we humans would see the roundness of an apple.

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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #67 on: February 19, 2015, 10:32:43 AM »
If there are no flat surfaces on a sphere, does that mean there are no curved surfaces on a plane?  I see lots of curves in topography where I live in Colorado.


If the earth was a sphere there would be no mountains in Colorado. Mountains can't exist sideways. But mountains make perfect sense on a flat surface. The OP is correct, have you ever seen any observable spherical object that somehow feels and looks flat? The answer is no, The argument that a large enough sphere will look flat is ridiculous and was never tested.

Welp, that made no sense at all.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #68 on: February 19, 2015, 10:48:35 AM »
If there are no flat surfaces on a sphere, does that mean there are no curved surfaces on a plane?  I see lots of curves in topography where I live in Colorado.


If the earth was a sphere there would be no mountains in Colorado. Mountains can't exist sideways. But mountains make perfect sense on a flat surface. The OP is correct, have you ever seen any observable spherical object that somehow feels and looks flat? The answer is no, The argument that a large enough sphere will look flat is ridiculous and was never tested.

Well, that made no sense at all.

That's because it's Scepti again using one of his many different profiles. His stupidity knows no bounds.

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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #69 on: February 19, 2015, 01:11:02 PM »
There are indeed no flat surfaces on a sphere, but if the sphere is really big then any small chunk of the surface would look pretty darn flat.
you keep saying that. maybe you should be working on coming up with something that's actually true.

Here's something that's actually true: If you take a circular area 1 mile in diameter, the difference at the center between a flat plane and the surface of an 8,000-mile diameter sphere will be two inches. Are you going to notice that, even in the absence of any local topography on land or ripples on water?

"Pretty darn flat" describes it well.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #70 on: February 19, 2015, 01:19:03 PM »
Ok, Earth is flat.
But how much is deep under our feet?
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #71 on: February 19, 2015, 01:31:55 PM »
Ok, Earth [looks] flat.

FTFY

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But how much is deep under our feet?

Roughly an 8,000-mile-diameter sphere.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #72 on: February 19, 2015, 05:56:41 PM »
The argument that a large enough sphere will look flat is ridiculous and was never tested.

Yes, the much more sensible solution is the one involving inter-dimensional alien Nazis.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2015, 04:44:37 AM »
If you hold an apple and you get to be as small as a bacteria, it would look flat to you once you stand on anywhere of the apple.

Next, please.
wrong. there are no flat surfaces on a sphere. denying that doesn't make it true.

There are indeed no flat surfaces on a sphere, but if the sphere is really big then any small chunk of the surface would look pretty darn flat.
you keep saying that. maybe you should be working on coming up with something that's actually true.

you keep misunderstanding that. If you were as little as a bacteria and stood on an apple, it would all look flat. And we humans would see the roundness of an apple.

wrong.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2015, 05:20:07 AM »
If you hold an apple and you get to be as small as a bacteria, it would look flat to you once you stand on anywhere of the apple.

Next, please.
wrong. there are no flat surfaces on a sphere. denying that doesn't make it true.

There are indeed no flat surfaces on a sphere, but if the sphere is really big then any small chunk of the surface would look pretty darn flat.
you keep saying that. maybe you should be working on coming up with something that's actually true.

you keep misunderstanding that. If you were as little as a bacteria and stood on an apple, it would all look flat. And we humans would see the roundness of an apple.

wrong.

Nope. Show why is wrong.

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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #75 on: February 20, 2015, 08:17:06 AM »
There are many space games and space simulators I have played that all have planets that look quite flst from the surface, but if anyone wants me to make an animation proving that the Earth looks flat from the surface then I can do that.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #76 on: February 20, 2015, 09:18:59 AM »
If you hold an apple and you get to be as small as a bacteria, it would look flat to you once you stand on anywhere of the apple.

Next, please.
wrong. there are no flat surfaces on a sphere. denying that doesn't make it true.

There are indeed no flat surfaces on a sphere, but if the sphere is really big then any small chunk of the surface would look pretty darn flat.
you keep saying that. maybe you should be working on coming up with something that's actually true.

you keep misunderstanding that. If you were as little as a bacteria and stood on an apple, it would all look flat. And we humans would see the roundness of an apple.

wrong.

Nope. Show why is wrong.
i have. you're the one who's asserting.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #77 on: February 20, 2015, 09:19:56 AM »
There are many space games and space simulators I have played that all have planets that look quite flst from the surface, but if anyone wants me to make an animation proving that the Earth looks flat from the surface then I can do that.
yeah, that's convincing, a biased round earther with complete control over a fictional simulation. if you think that was a good suggestion you've given up on logic.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #78 on: February 20, 2015, 09:21:29 AM »
If you hold an apple and you get to be as small as a bacteria, it would look flat to you once you stand on anywhere of the apple.

Next, please.
wrong. there are no flat surfaces on a sphere. denying that doesn't make it true.

There are indeed no flat surfaces on a sphere, but if the sphere is really big then any small chunk of the surface would look pretty darn flat.
you keep saying that. maybe you should be working on coming up with something that's actually true.

you keep misunderstanding that. If you were as little as a bacteria and stood on an apple, it would all look flat. And we humans would see the roundness of an apple.

wrong.

Nope. Show why is wrong.
i have. you're the one who's asserting.

You actually have this notion that if we are to stand in a few thousand kms diameter globe, anywhere we would stand on, would be a tangent to that sphere, and there wouldn't be any flat surface? This would be true if you stood up on a beach ball. But not if that beach Ball is thousand upon thousands diameter.

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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #79 on: February 20, 2015, 09:42:44 AM »
If you hold an apple and you get to be as small as a bacteria, it would look flat to you once you stand on anywhere of the apple.

Next, please.
wrong. there are no flat surfaces on a sphere. denying that doesn't make it true.

There are indeed no flat surfaces on a sphere, but if the sphere is really big then any small chunk of the surface would look pretty darn flat.
you keep saying that. maybe you should be working on coming up with something that's actually true.

you keep misunderstanding that. If you were as little as a bacteria and stood on an apple, it would all look flat. And we humans would see the roundness of an apple.

wrong.

Nope. Show why is wrong.
i have. you're the one who's asserting.

You actually have this notion that if we are to stand in a few thousand kms diameter globe, anywhere we would stand on, would be a tangent to that sphere, and there wouldn't be any flat surface? This would be true if you stood up on a beach ball. But not if that beach Ball is thousand upon thousands diameter.
if we are standing on a globe, then we'd be standing on a globe: a curved surface. it is as simple as that. unless the earth's some cube or icosahedron now?
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #80 on: February 20, 2015, 10:03:19 AM »
There are many space games and space simulators I have played that all have planets that look quite flst from the surface, but if anyone wants me to make an animation proving that the Earth looks flat from the surface then I can do that.
yeah, that's convincing, a biased round earther with complete control over a fictional simulation. if you think that was a good suggestion you've given up on logic.

I could even provide my .blend file which can be checked for realism by anyone with Blender (which is free).  You could even render out the animation yourself to make sure that the animation was made using that file.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #81 on: February 20, 2015, 10:13:01 AM »
There are many space games and space simulators I have played that all have planets that look quite flst from the surface, but if anyone wants me to make an animation proving that the Earth looks flat from the surface then I can do that.
yeah, that's convincing, a biased round earther with complete control over a fictional simulation. if you think that was a good suggestion you've given up on logic.

I could even provide my .blend file which can be checked for realism by anyone with Blender (which is free).  You could even render out the animation yourself to make sure that the animation was made using that file.
I love blender's physhics engine, but I never thought of using it for that. When I get back to my PC, I'll make an attempt, also. I figure 2 people who have no way of communicating would have no way to find the same "biased" results.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #82 on: February 20, 2015, 10:22:30 AM »
There are many space games and space simulators I have played that all have planets that look quite flst from the surface, but if anyone wants me to make an animation proving that the Earth looks flat from the surface then I can do that.
yeah, that's convincing, a biased round earther with complete control over a fictional simulation. if you think that was a good suggestion you've given up on logic.

I could even provide my .blend file which can be checked for realism by anyone with Blender (which is free).  You could even render out the animation yourself to make sure that the animation was made using that file.
I love blender's physhics engine, but I never thought of using it for that. When I get back to my PC, I'll make an attempt, also. I figure 2 people who have no way of communicating would have no way to find the same "biased" results.

You don't even need the physics engine for this, you just need to place the camera next to a huge sphere and see how flat it looks.  It will be nesesary to tweak the maximum and minimum render distance and you should probobaly use a curve type sphere for it's perfect roundness.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #83 on: February 20, 2015, 11:41:24 AM »
If you hold an apple and you get to be as small as a bacteria, it would look flat to you once you stand on anywhere of the apple.

Next, please.
wrong. there are no flat surfaces on a sphere. denying that doesn't make it true.

There are indeed no flat surfaces on a sphere, but if the sphere is really big then any small chunk of the surface would look pretty darn flat.
you keep saying that. maybe you should be working on coming up with something that's actually true.

you keep misunderstanding that. If you were as little as a bacteria and stood on an apple, it would all look flat. And we humans would see the roundness of an apple.

wrong.

Nope. Show why is wrong.
i have. you're the one who's asserting.

You actually have this notion that if we are to stand in a few thousand kms diameter globe, anywhere we would stand on, would be a tangent to that sphere, and there wouldn't be any flat surface? This would be true if you stood up on a beach ball. But not if that beach Ball is thousand upon thousands diameter.
if we are standing on a globe, then we'd be standing on a globe: a curved surface. it is as simple as that. unless the earth's some cube or icosahedron now?

No, wrong again. You are denying the obvious. You need to train Perspective. A beach ball won't be the same for a human like it would be for a virus. I'm gonna be a little scpecti here: "try and use your brain and use simple logic, cause you are failing much".

Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #84 on: February 20, 2015, 01:58:20 PM »
Crystal formation on earth ,proves your spherical hypotheses to be total nonsence . As for theses so called asteroids  coming from outer space lol. There is no outer space .they are being hurled from volcanic eruption from  the dark part of earth.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #85 on: February 20, 2015, 02:00:49 PM »
Crystal formation on earth ,proves your spherical hypotheses to be total nonsence . As for theses so called asteroids  coming from outer space lol. There is no outer space .they are being hurled from volcanic eruption from  the dark part of earth.
That's a new one, crystals prove a flat earth? I would love to hear that explanation.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #86 on: February 20, 2015, 02:11:23 PM »
Crystal formation on earth ,proves your spherical hypotheses to be total nonsence . As for theses so called asteroids  coming from outer space lol. There is no outer space .they are being hurled from volcanic eruption from  the dark part of earth.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #87 on: February 20, 2015, 02:21:43 PM »
If you hold an apple and you get to be as small as a bacteria, it would look flat to you once you stand on anywhere of the apple.

Next, please.
wrong. there are no flat surfaces on a sphere. denying that doesn't make it true.

There are indeed no flat surfaces on a sphere, but if the sphere is really big then any small chunk of the surface would look pretty darn flat.
you keep saying that. maybe you should be working on coming up with something that's actually true.

you keep misunderstanding that. If you were as little as a bacteria and stood on an apple, it would all look flat. And we humans would see the roundness of an apple.

wrong.

Nope. Show why is wrong.
i have. you're the one who's asserting.

You actually have this notion that if we are to stand in a few thousand kms diameter globe, anywhere we would stand on, would be a tangent to that sphere, and there wouldn't be any flat surface? This would be true if you stood up on a beach ball. But not if that beach Ball is thousand upon thousands diameter.
if we are standing on a globe, then we'd be standing on a globe: a curved surface. it is as simple as that. unless the earth's some cube or icosahedron now?

No, wrong again. You are denying the obvious. You need to train Perspective. A beach ball won't be the same for a human like it would be for a virus. I'm gonna be a little scpecti here: "try and use your brain and use simple logic, cause you are failing much".
try thinking.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #88 on: February 20, 2015, 02:23:31 PM »
There are many space games and space simulators I have played that all have planets that look quite flst from the surface, but if anyone wants me to make an animation proving that the Earth looks flat from the surface then I can do that.
yeah, that's convincing, a biased round earther with complete control over a fictional simulation. if you think that was a good suggestion you've given up on logic.

I could even provide my .blend file which can be checked for realism by anyone with Blender (which is free).  You could even render out the animation yourself to make sure that the animation was made using that file.
wow, so now artificial software programmed to fake laws by total strangers is now a reliable source? you people keep getting more and more desperate, don't you?
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