why we know the earth is flat

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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2015, 03:17:21 PM »
everyone is making the same obvious mistakes so i'll address you all.

1. there are no flat surfaces on a sphere, the end. why is sizing it up going to make any kind of difference, they're just not there.

2. saying science is testable is nothing more than a lie. there is more than high school science out there and there is no way to test half the bs claimed. you just need to use your head and you will see that. nasa lie and have been caught out on lies, science makes up new things all the time. once Newton described motion then it was Einstein which somehow turned gravity into bendy space, and now everything quantum is taking over and everything is just waves rather than matter and you expect to take any of that seriously? science lies, the conspiracy exists. denying nasa's lies is self-deception.

3. universal acceleration is a fact even for a round earther, everything accelerates away from the center of the universe and the site of the big bang. push dust along and it will form a flat surface. if it hands in the air, and you punch it, it wraps around the force that hits it. when that force is constant it results in a flat surface. you can't act like there's suddenly no force for spheres to coalesce, it doesn't work like that.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2015, 03:52:21 PM »
everyone is making the same obvious mistakes so i'll address you all.
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2. saying science is testable is nothing more than a lie. there is more than high school science out there and there is no way to test half the bs claimed. you just need to use your head and you will see that. nasa lie and have been caught out on lies, science makes up new things all the time. once Newton described motion then it was Einstein which somehow turned gravity into bendy space, and now everything quantum is taking over and everything is just waves rather than matter and you expect to take any of that seriously? science lies, the conspiracy exists. denying nasa's lies is self-deception.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2015, 03:57:23 PM »
It is pretty clear that you don't believe it because you don't understand it.

Matter acting as a wave has been proven by the double slit experiment. The other things you mentioned are just words strung together.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2015, 04:13:23 PM »
and now you're not even trying to refute what I say, just slinging words and hoping i won't see through your lies.
case closed.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2015, 04:14:29 PM »
and now you're not even trying to refute what I say, just slinging words and hoping i won't see through your lies.
case closed.

Is it because you don't have a clue what the double slit experiment is that you assume he is just stringing words together?
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2015, 04:42:46 PM »
Nah, there are no fake vaccines are there, You clowns.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/lasting-fallout-fake-vaccination-programs/story?id=23795483

You might need to work on your reading comprehension. The article didn't say the vaccines didn't work or were fake- just that the doctors were undercover CIA agents
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2015, 04:43:54 PM »
and now you're not even trying to refute what I say, just slinging words and hoping i won't see through your lies.
case closed.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2015, 04:47:50 PM »
and now you're not even trying to refute what I say, just slinging words and hoping i won't see through your lies.
case closed.

You're just a angry little man aren't you.

Instead of raging about how everyone is lying and you're smarter than everyone, why don't you actually make some intelligible points. Why exactly do you think is wrong with Young's Experiment?

Just because you can't understand it doesn't mean that it's false.

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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2015, 03:50:13 AM »
once Newton described motion then it was Einstein which somehow turned gravity into bendy space, and now everything quantum is taking over and everything is just waves rather than matter
Oh no, science is advancing new theories that improve on the old ones!  What a failure it is!  Let's get rid of it and go back to chucking shit at each other in ditches.

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push dust along and it will form a flat surface. if it hands in the air, and you punch it, it wraps around the force that hits it. when that force is constant it results in a flat surface. you can't act like there's suddenly no force for spheres to coalesce, it doesn't work like that.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2015, 07:41:19 AM »
try thinking for yourselves. you spout the same old nonsense about spheres somehow ending up flat, and quote obvious made up science as if it must be true. do you feel like a collection of waves? no, because you're not. things are not made up of waves, the world doesn't work like that, just open your eyes.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2015, 07:48:45 AM »
try thinking for yourselves. you spout the same old nonsense about spheres somehow ending up flat, and quote obvious made up science as if it must be true. do you feel like a collection of waves? no, because you're not. things are not made up of waves, the world doesn't work like that, just open your eyes.
you can't even respond to what i'm saying. that's proof you don't have a clue.
You have reading compreshension problems. It APPEARS flat. See? APPEARS flat. It still curves, but it's so huge that you don't notice it. So learn to read fully through posts.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2015, 07:54:34 AM »
try thinking for yourselves. you spout the same old nonsense about spheres somehow ending up flat, and quote obvious made up science as if it must be true. do you feel like a collection of waves? no, because you're not. things are not made up of waves, the world doesn't work like that, just open your eyes.
you can't even respond to what i'm saying. that's proof you don't have a clue.
You have reading compreshension problems. It APPEARS flat. See? APPEARS flat. It still curves, but it's so huge that you don't notice it. So learn to read fully through posts.
now you're so desperate you can only shout the same old bs. there are no flat surfaces on a sphere. the end. a curve cannot appear to be flat. it is a curve. that is what curves are. thought isn't your strong point is it?
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2015, 08:00:07 AM »
try thinking for yourselves. you spout the same old nonsense about spheres somehow ending up flat, and quote obvious made up science as if it must be true. do you feel like a collection of waves? no, because you're not. things are not made up of waves, the world doesn't work like that, just open your eyes.
you can't even respond to what i'm saying. that's proof you don't have a clue.
You have reading compreshension problems. It APPEARS flat. See? APPEARS flat. It still curves, but it's so huge that you don't notice it. So learn to read fully through posts.
now you're so desperate you can only shout the same old bs. there are no flat surfaces on a sphere. the end. a curve cannot appear to be flat. it is a curve. that is what curves are. thought isn't your strong point is it?
What do you expect to see on a round earth? Walking down a hill and falling? You can see the curve in a high definition photograph and a tool to zoom in on it. The horizon curves. Light does not bend for no reason, so "bendy light" is not the answer. Want me to go take a photo of the horizon and test it?
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2015, 08:36:23 AM »
try thinking for yourselves. you spout the same old nonsense about spheres somehow ending up flat, and quote obvious made up science as if it must be true. do you feel like a collection of waves? no, because you're not. things are not made up of waves, the world doesn't work like that, just open your eyes.
you can't even respond to what i'm saying. that's proof you don't have a clue.

Obviously you just can't comprehend physics. Try to actually look at Young's Expirement instead of just raging. You just don't understand this stuff so you assume it's wrong.

The problem is that you just assume your smarter then everyone. You're not. Get over yourself
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2015, 10:34:00 AM »
and you're all still making things up. you can't show flat surfaces exist on a sphere so you resort to slinging insults and hoping no one notices.
think for yourselves. don't listen to the obvious bs spewed by scientists.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2015, 12:24:49 PM »
Take a circle of any size.  If you zoom in on the edge, with enough magnification, it will appear as a straight line.  Is it actually straight?  No.  Does it look straight?  Yes.

Also, there is no force pushing objects from the big bang.  Space itself is expanding, and all the galaxies and stars and planets move with it.  Furthermore, there is no single point from which objects are moving away from.  The big bang does not have a discernable origin since everything in the observable universe originated within it.

PS: even if there were a force pushing planets around, the vacuum of space has negligible resistance such that local gravity prevails and coalesces matter into (roughly) spherical shapes.

PSS: I am a believer of government conspiracies... just not one that can be readily disproven by millions of amateur astronomers, physicists, and engineers.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2015, 01:43:40 PM »
and you're all still making things up. you can't show flat surfaces exist on a sphere so you resort to slinging insults and hoping no one notices.
think for yourselves. don't listen to the obvious bs spewed by scientists.

Well Scepti,
You're still making up about five different profiles a week on this site and still spewing all the same bs you've been spewing all along. Give us a break for once Scepti, think about pulling your head out of your ass.

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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2015, 02:49:47 PM »
and you're all still making things up. you can't show flat surfaces exist on a sphere so you resort to slinging insults and hoping no one notices.
think for yourselves. don't listen to the obvious bs spewed by scientists.

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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2015, 03:13:25 PM »
...continue, but cleaning up the language a bit is recommended.

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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2015, 03:27:00 PM »
Take a look at google earth, zoom in to your city.  Looks flat huh.  Then zoom out and at some point it starts to look curved!

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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2015, 07:51:56 PM »
and you're all still making things up.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Double+slit+experiment
So stop whining, and actually tell us what's wrong with this.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2015, 09:21:38 PM »
and you're all still making things up.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Double+slit+experiment
So stop whining, and actually tell us what's wrong with this.

The double slit experiment blows my mind, especially when they found that the state that the particle is in is dependent on if you observe it or not.

I fully expect he will just call it bs, tell us to use our eyes and then attack us and evade any questions presented.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #52 on: February 17, 2015, 03:47:17 AM »
and you're all still making things up. you can't show flat surfaces exist on a sphere so you resort to slinging insults and hoping no one notices.
think for yourselves. don't listen to the obvious bs spewed by scientists.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2015, 05:51:08 AM »
now you're all still lying. fancy faked animations don't prove a thing, a curve does not end up flat.

the double slit experiment is something we can see is not true, because it doesn't matter whether or not we observe something. why does behavior change just because you shrink something? Answer: it doesn't, it's all made up. Why do you believe the obvious lies you're told when common sense is ignore?
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2015, 06:19:57 AM »
now you're all still lying. fancy faked animations don't prove a thing, a curve does not end up flat.

the double slit experiment is something we can see is not true, because it doesn't matter whether or not we observe something. why does behavior change just because you shrink something? Answer: it doesn't, it's all made up. Why do you believe the obvious lies you're told when common sense is ignore?
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2015, 06:50:29 AM »
If you hold an apple and you get to be as small as a bacteria, it would look flat to you once you stand on anywhere of the apple.

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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #56 on: February 17, 2015, 07:34:20 AM »
and you're all still making things up.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Double+slit+experiment
So stop whining, and actually tell us what's wrong with this.

The double slit experiment blows my mind, especially when they found that the state that the particle is in is dependent on if you observe it or not.

I fully expect he will just call it bs, tell us to use our eyes and then attack us and evade any questions presented.
Yes it really is a great piece of science. It really goes into the realization in the last 100 years that we cannot be neutral observers- we can't observe nature without altering and influencing it.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #57 on: February 17, 2015, 08:32:58 AM »
now you're all still lying. fancy faked animations don't prove a thing, a curve does not end up flat.

the double slit experiment is something we can see is not true, because it doesn't matter whether or not we observe something. why does behavior change just because you shrink something? Answer: it doesn't, it's all made up. Why do you believe the obvious lies you're told when common sense is ignore?

I'm psychic!!
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #58 on: February 17, 2015, 11:12:42 AM »
If you hold an apple and you get to be as small as a bacteria, it would look flat to you once you stand on anywhere of the apple.

Next, please.
wrong. there are no flat surfaces on a sphere. denying that doesn't make it true.
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Re: why we know the earth is flat
« Reply #59 on: February 17, 2015, 11:13:24 AM »
and you're all still making things up.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Double+slit+experiment
So stop whining, and actually tell us what's wrong with this.

The double slit experiment blows my mind, especially when they found that the state that the particle is in is dependent on if you observe it or not.

I fully expect he will just call it bs, tell us to use our eyes and then attack us and evade any questions presented.
Yes it really is a great piece of science. It really goes into the realization in the last 100 years that we cannot be neutral observers- we can't observe nature without altering and influencing it.

which is bs to anyone who thinks about it. if i look away from a table, it doesn't become two tables.
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