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Communist China was pretty communist.

Not was, is.

Quote from: rooster on April 11, 2013, 06:55:43 PM

Communist China was pretty communist.

Not was, is.

Not is, was.

Quote from: hoppy on April 12, 2013, 02:44:18 AM

Quote from: rooster on April 11, 2013, 06:55:43 PM

Communist China was pretty communist.

Not was, is.

Not is, was.

I just had a Chinese student stay at my house for a week over spring break. He told me a friend of his wrote something bad about the government on the internet, then the government came to the guy's house at midnight. Then took him away in handcuffs to jail. He also told me drug suspects are shot on the spot, no trial, no jail, just bullets. Weather you are 4 years old or an old person. I also believe the US government still classifies them as communists.

I just had a Chinese student stay at my house for a week over spring break.

I'd like to focus on this part of the story, if you don't mind. You are a white American male in your 50s and you invite students from the Far-East to stay with you during their vacations. Explain why. Please include all details of financial transaction, legality and sexual duress as these are the areas that I am particularly interested in, regarding your anecdote.

Alright Thork, calm down. First off I am 49. The Chinese student is a friend of my son, they both go to the same university. During Christmas break the Chinese kid stayed on campus for month, with no one else there and no hot water. We asked him to spend the week with us, we did not charge him anything.

First off I am 49.

You've had a hard life.

The Chinese student is a friend of my son, they both go to the same university.

Convenient. So your son identifies young people that you can invite to your home and makes them feel like it is a safe environment. Does he also persuade the young people to stay at your house or does he hand over to you at this point?

During Christmas break the Chinese kid stayed on campus for month, with no one else there and no hot water.

So he was vulnerable and alone. I see. Go on.

We asked him to spend the week with us, we did not charge him anything.

And how did he pay you for the accommodation and food?

Quote from: Eddy Baby on April 12, 2013, 03:30:49 AM

Quote from: hoppy on April 12, 2013, 02:44:18 AM

Quote from: rooster on April 11, 2013, 06:55:43 PM

Communist China was pretty communist.

Not was, is.

Not is, was.

I just had a Chinese student stay at my house for a week over spring break. He told me a friend of his wrote something bad about the government on the internet, then the government came to the guy's house at midnight. Then took him away in handcuffs to jail. He also told me drug suspects are shot on the spot, no trial, no jail, just bullets. Weather you are 4 years old or an old person. I also believe the US government still classifies them as communists.

Cool story. But China isn't communist.

We required no payment of any kind from the kid. At least with the people I know in the US, hopitality and accomodation is not unusual. It was fun to have the guy with us for a week, I know he appreciated it. There was no abuse of anyone, and I think he appreciates America a little more than before he came here. For goodness sake get your mind out of the gutter.

@ Eddy according to the guy who lives there it is.
 He told us how when Moa Tse Tung died that his grandfather went and layed down on the floor crying and banging his fists, in front of the communist leaders. He said he grandfather was actually happy the he was dead. He said they also made other people cry for his death to put on TV, but the people were actually at gun point to make out that they were sad.

@ Eddy according to the guy who lives there it is.
 He told us how when Moa Tse Tung died that his grandfather went and layed down on the floor crying and banging his fists, in front of the communist leaders. He said he grandfather was actually happy the he was dead. He said they also made other people cry for his death to put on TV, but the people were actually at gun point to make out that they were sad.

Again, cool, but present day China is to all intents and purposes not communist.

Quote from: hoppy on April 12, 2013, 06:39:10 AM

@ Eddy according to the guy who lives there it is.
 He told us how when Moa Tse Tung died that his grandfather went and layed down on the floor crying and banging his fists, in front of the communist leaders. He said he grandfather was actually happy the he was dead. He said they also made other people cry for his death to put on TV, but the people were actually at gun point to make out that they were sad.

Again, cool, but present day China is to all intents and purposes not communist.

Why do you think that against what a guy who lives there says. And forced abortions.

Because one guy doesn't mean shit. I can tell you my country is the greatest country in the world, but does that make it the greatest country in the world? No, it just makes me a filthy liar.

Because one guy doesn't mean shit. I can tell you my country is the greatest country in the world, but does that make it the greatest country in the world? No, it just makes me a filthy liar.

I agree.

I'm not sure hoppy knows what Conmunism is. I think China is technically still calling itself a Communist country but it's nothing compared to Mao Zedong's China.

You can force as many abortions as you want but it doesn't say whether you're communist or not.

I'm not sure hoppy knows what Conmunism is. I think China is technically still calling itself a Communist country but it's nothing compared to Mao Zedong's China.

The young man told me Mao is gone, but it is still the same people running China. Just because. the TV calls China our trading partner doesn't mean they are not Communists now. The way our guest described it, it is totalitarian. Not good.

Quote from: rooster on April 12, 2013, 08:04:24 AM

I'm not sure hoppy knows what Conmunism is. I think China is technically still calling itself a Communist country but it's nothing compared to Mao Zedong's China.

The young man told me Mao is gone, but it is still the same people running China. Just because. the TV calls China our trading partner doesn't mean they are not Communists now. The way our guest described it, it is totalitarian. Not good.

"The same people" doesn't even make sense considering all politicians hated and disagreed with Zedong. And the Chinese are now living in homes with privacy and an emerging middle class. CLASS. Not Communism.

I won't argue that's it's still a strictly controlled country but that's not what Communism means.

China is Capitalist.

Before they used to wear the communist uniform like Stalin.

^ That is the communist uniform.





Standard all over the world.


Also a favourite with Bond villains.


Now they dress like capitalists.

In a profession where image is everything, politicians in Western business suits tells you all you need to know about their politics.

Rooster you even have to watch what you say there. If you say someting wrong you get locked up and re-educated. The Chinese government is the best, and all other governments are bad. Yeah they may be paying them a little more now, but they seem like nothing more than slaves basically.

Rooster you even have to watch what you say there. If you say someting wrong you get locked up and re-educated. The Chinese government is the best, and all other governments are bad. Yeah they may be paying them a little more now, but they seem like nothing more than slaves basically.

I understand, hoppy. But what Eddy and I are trying to tell you is that police-states or whatever is not Communism. Communism is a classless egalitarian system, more or less. Zedong had everyone living in communes for awhile. They had no privacy, they slept together, worked together (everyday, all day), ate together, and didn't even get to raise their own children. That's closer to Communism than owning your own middle class apartment and being afraid to write a blog about your government.

Hoppy is pulling a Wardogg.  Communist is not a synonym for "bad."

Communist is not a synonym for "bad."

Incorrect. A communist is somebody who hates America, and by extension, freedom.

Quote from: Eddy Baby on April 12, 2013, 03:30:49 AM

Quote from: hoppy on April 12, 2013, 02:44:18 AM

Quote from: rooster on April 11, 2013, 06:55:43 PM

Communist China was pretty communist.

Not was, is.

Not is, was.

I just had a Chinese student stay at my house for a week over spring break. He told me a friend of his wrote something bad about the government on the internet, then the government came to the guy's house at midnight. Then took him away in handcuffs to jail. He also told me drug suspects are shot on the spot, no trial, no jail, just bullets. Weather you are 4 years old or an old person. I also believe the US government still classifies them as communists.

He's describing totalitarianism, not communism.  Communism is an economic system, not a political system.

yet it has always been implemented as part of a political revolution that arrived with a great deal of baggage

the baggage generally proved more influential.

Less politics, moar pictures  Don't make me put my mod hat on again!

Less politics, moar pictures  Don't make me put my mod hat on again!

I kinda wanna see that hat. But not the bad side of it >:

I kinda wanna see that hat. But not the bad side of it >:

Relax, she only bans people that post the word and posts numbers. It's not like she actually does moderation.

Quote from: Genius on April 12, 2013, 12:33:39 PM

I kinda wanna see that hat. But not the bad side of it >:

Relax, she only bans people that post the word and posts numbers. It's not like she actually does moderation.

So, who are the real mods?

There aren't any. They're all idiots.

There aren't any. They're all idiots.