What lies outside the ice wall?

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on January 27, 2015, 11:36:03 AM

This is embarrassing to watch... 

So you refuse to make a coherent argument? Noted. Please don't waste my time next time.

Do you even realise people can come on this forum and see the posts you make?

Now, please explain the motion of the stars like you said you could.

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 11:40:10 AM

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on January 27, 2015, 11:36:03 AM

This is embarrassing to watch... 

So you refuse to make a coherent argument? Noted. Please don't waste my time next time.

Do you even realise people can come on this forum and see the posts you make?

Now, please explain the motion of the stars like you said you could.

The information is readily available for all users of this site.

http://wiki.tfes.org/Stars

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Stars


Next time, please do a simple forum search or just type "Stars" into the wiki. It's really that simple. Please stop wasting my time. You're close to being put on an ignore list.

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 27, 2015, 09:09:41 AM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on January 27, 2015, 08:11:27 AM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 08:09:02 AM

Wait, Mike, was Scepti banned before you started here? If so I am sorry for the amount of stupid you are about to encounter.

No, Scepti was here when I started here.  I know what I am getting myself into.

You're well aware of me in your starman name. Why did you not just carry that on?

Anyway it doesn't matter.
So what can't you understand about what I've just said earlier?

I might understand your model better if it made mathematical sense, but your explanation for the Sun and the Moon defies the inverse square law, relies on reflections working in an impossible way, fails to explain solar and lunar eclipses, fails to explain time zones, fails to explain seasons, fails to explain sunsets, fails to explain all other objects in the sky like stars and planets, and fails to explain many more things about which I could go on about for a long time.  On top of all this you have no mathematical or experimental proof for your model (at least none that you are willing to share) and you are also the only person on the (round) Earth that believes in your model of the universe.

Now do you understand why I think your model is absurd?  Don't try to tell me that math is a government fabrication again

Do you know how a kaleidoscope works?

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on January 27, 2015, 11:47:15 AM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 11:40:10 AM

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on January 27, 2015, 11:36:03 AM

This is embarrassing to watch... 

So you refuse to make a coherent argument? Noted. Please don't waste my time next time.

Do you even realise people can come on this forum and see the posts you make?

Now, please explain the motion of the stars like you said you could.

The information is readily available for all users of this site.

http://wiki.tfes.org/Stars

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Stars


Next time, please do a simple forum search or just type "Stars" into the wiki. It's really that simple. Please stop wasting my time. You're close to being put on an ignore list.

You already posted this link, it does not contain the answer to the question, and the answer to the question cannot be found from a search on this forum. Prove me wrong if you can.
Now, shall I rephrase the question for you, since you like that? Two rotational points in sky, star distance unchanging, but stars moving, how that work?
I think you're wasting your own time really, Vauxy...

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 11:51:37 AM

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on January 27, 2015, 11:47:15 AM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 11:40:10 AM

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on January 27, 2015, 11:36:03 AM

This is embarrassing to watch... 

So you refuse to make a coherent argument? Noted. Please don't waste my time next time.

Do you even realise people can come on this forum and see the posts you make?

Now, please explain the motion of the stars like you said you could.

The information is readily available for all users of this site.

http://wiki.tfes.org/Stars

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Stars


Next time, please do a simple forum search or just type "Stars" into the wiki. It's really that simple. Please stop wasting my time. You're close to being put on an ignore list.

You already posted this link, it does not contain the answer to the question, and the answer to the question cannot be found from a search on this forum. Prove me wrong if you can.
Now, shall I rephrase the question for you, since you like that? Two rotational points in sky, star distance unchanging, but stars moving, how that work?
I think you're wasting your own time really, Vauxy...

The answers you seek are in our faqs. Specifically, the links I posted. Perhaps it is you who does not understand the explanations? Unfortunately, I cannot help you with that.

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on January 27, 2015, 11:58:56 AM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 11:51:37 AM

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on January 27, 2015, 11:47:15 AM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 11:40:10 AM

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on January 27, 2015, 11:36:03 AM

This is embarrassing to watch... 

So you refuse to make a coherent argument? Noted. Please don't waste my time next time.

Do you even realise people can come on this forum and see the posts you make?

Now, please explain the motion of the stars like you said you could.

The information is readily available for all users of this site.

http://wiki.tfes.org/Stars

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Stars


Next time, please do a simple forum search or just type "Stars" into the wiki. It's really that simple. Please stop wasting my time. You're close to being put on an ignore list.

You already posted this link, it does not contain the answer to the question, and the answer to the question cannot be found from a search on this forum. Prove me wrong if you can.
Now, shall I rephrase the question for you, since you like that? Two rotational points in sky, star distance unchanging, but stars moving, how that work?
I think you're wasting your own time really, Vauxy...

I answers you seek are in our faqs. Specifically, the links I posted. Perhaps it is you who does not understand the explanations? Unfortunately, I cannot help you with that.

The answers are not in the FAQs. The answers are not in the links. That's nothing less than a lie. Prove me wrong and post a quote. What exact sentence or paragraph has the answer? None of us can see it.

Further research on multiple systems might help you? Once you've worked it out, let me know. I'd be interested in discussing something intelligent with you for once.

Further research on multiple systems might help you? Once you've worked it out, let me know. I'd be interested in discussing something intelligent with you for once.

You do realise people can see you dodging the question, right? They can see you not posting the answer you claim is there, you know? You do know you look like a fool, don't you?

Further research on multiple systems might help you? Once you've worked it out, let me know. I'd be interested in discussing something intelligent with you for once.

Wow, it's almost like you are desperately avoiding answering the question.  Which, of course, can't be the case.  After all , you have 2 Phds. 

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:03:06 PM

Further research on multiple systems might help you? Once you've worked it out, let me know. I'd be interested in discussing something intelligent with you for once.

Wow, it's almost like you are desperately avoiding answering the question.  Which, of course, can't be the case.  After all , you have 2 Phds. 

That's not as many as Sceptimatic.

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:03:06 PM

Further research on multiple systems might help you? Once you've worked it out, let me know. I'd be interested in discussing something intelligent with you for once.

Wow, it's almost like you are desperately avoiding answering the question.  Which, of course, can't be the case.  After all , you have 2 Phds. 

I actually have 6 PhDs.

And no, I'm not avoiding the question. It's just that the answer has been given several times and I do not appreciate Neil's condescending attitude. He has since been put on my ignore list, so I will no longer have to deal with his ignorant persistence.

I actually have 6 PhDs.

Still not as many as Sceptimatic.

I actually have 6 PhDs.

Don't break the illusion with preposterous-ness!

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:15:33 PM

I actually have 6 PhDs.

Don't break the illusion with preposterous-ness!

Are you implying that I am a liar? I don't appreciate that.

I have a PhD in the following fields:
- Clinical Psychology
- Zoology
- General Engineering
- English Literature
- Art History
- Philosophy

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 12:31:55 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:15:33 PM

I actually have 6 PhDs.

Don't break the illusion with preposterous-ness!

Are you implying that I am a liar? I don't appreciate that.

I have a PhD in the following fields:
- Clinical Psychology
- Zoology
- General Engineering
- English Literature
- Art History
- Philosophy

Might I ask where?

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:38:13 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 12:31:55 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:15:33 PM

I actually have 6 PhDs.

Don't break the illusion with preposterous-ness!

Are you implying that I am a liar? I don't appreciate that.

I have a PhD in the following fields:
- Clinical Psychology
- Zoology
- General Engineering
- English Literature
- Art History
- Philosophy

Might I ask where?

Multiple schools.

Stanford for Engineering, Cornell for English Lit, Columbia University for Art History, Aberdeen University for Zoology, Berkeley for Psychology, and University of Bristol for Philosophy.

I was also a roadie for the rock band Big Audio Dynamite.

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 12:31:55 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:15:33 PM

I actually have 6 PhDs.

Don't break the illusion with preposterous-ness!

Are you implying that I am a liar? I don't appreciate that.

I have a PhD in the following fields:
- Clinical Psychology
- Zoology
- General Engineering
- English Literature
- Art History
- Philosophy

Just a rough estimate, but that is like, 38+ years of schooling. Each PhD would require its own bachelors and masters programs to feed into them. Subtracting your 2 years of general ed underclassmen education, its 6 years per PhD.

Most impressive.

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:38:13 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 12:31:55 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:15:33 PM

I actually have 6 PhDs.

Don't break the illusion with preposterous-ness!

Are you implying that I am a liar? I don't appreciate that.

I have a PhD in the following fields:
- Clinical Psychology
- Zoology
- General Engineering
- English Literature
- Art History
- Philosophy

Just a rough estimate, but that is like, 38+ years of schooling. Each PhD would require its own bachelors and masters programs to feed into them. Subtracting your 2 years of general ed underclassmen education, its 6 years per PhD.

Most impressive.

You don't seem to understand transfer credits. 

Just a rough estimate, but that is like, 38+ years of schooling. Each PhD would require its own bachelors and masters programs to feed into them. Subtracting your 2 years of general ed underclassmen education, its 6 years per PhD.

Most impressive.

Tell me something I don't already know.

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:15:05 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:38:13 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 12:31:55 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:15:33 PM

I actually have 6 PhDs.

Don't break the illusion with preposterous-ness!

Are you implying that I am a liar? I don't appreciate that.

I have a PhD in the following fields:
- Clinical Psychology
- Zoology
- General Engineering
- English Literature
- Art History
- Philosophy

Just a rough estimate, but that is like, 38+ years of schooling. Each PhD would require its own bachelors and masters programs to feed into them. Subtracting your 2 years of general ed underclassmen education, its 6 years per PhD.

Most impressive.

You don't seem to understand transfer credits.

Transfer credits mean a previously taken course will transfer towards a degree you are currently working towards. Besides the General Ed reqs you take in your undergraduate years, which classes from lets say, his general engineering bachelors and Masters and PhD would transfer to his psychology degrees?

Are you doubting my academic prowess? Do you have any basis for this outlandish assertion?

Quote from: jroa on January 27, 2015, 02:18:11 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:15:05 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:38:13 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 12:31:55 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:15:33 PM

I actually have 6 PhDs.

Don't break the illusion with preposterous-ness!

Are you implying that I am a liar? I don't appreciate that.

I have a PhD in the following fields:
- Clinical Psychology
- Zoology
- General Engineering
- English Literature
- Art History
- Philosophy

Just a rough estimate, but that is like, 38+ years of schooling. Each PhD would require its own bachelors and masters programs to feed into them. Subtracting your 2 years of general ed underclassmen education, its 6 years per PhD.

Most impressive.

You don't seem to understand transfer credits.

Transfer credits mean a previously taken course will transfer towards a degree you are currently working towards. Besides the General Ed reqs you take in your undergraduate years, which classes from lets say, his general engineering bachelors and Masters and PhD would transfer to his psychology degrees?

I had to take psychology classes for my engineering degree.  I still don't understand what you are having problems understanding. 

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:32:26 PM

Quote from: jroa on January 27, 2015, 02:18:11 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:15:05 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:38:13 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 12:31:55 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:15:33 PM

I actually have 6 PhDs.

Don't break the illusion with preposterous-ness!

Are you implying that I am a liar? I don't appreciate that.

I have a PhD in the following fields:
- Clinical Psychology
- Zoology
- General Engineering
- English Literature
- Art History
- Philosophy

Just a rough estimate, but that is like, 38+ years of schooling. Each PhD would require its own bachelors and masters programs to feed into them. Subtracting your 2 years of general ed underclassmen education, its 6 years per PhD.

Most impressive.

You don't seem to understand transfer credits.

Transfer credits mean a previously taken course will transfer towards a degree you are currently working towards. Besides the General Ed reqs you take in your undergraduate years, which classes from lets say, his general engineering bachelors and Masters and PhD would transfer to his psychology degrees?

I had to take psychology classes for my engineering degree.  I still don't understand what you are having problems understanding.

We know he doesn't even have one Ph.D, although props to him for actually getting "PhD" right this time, unlike last time when he said "PH.D".
Also I find it highly suspect that "General Engineering" exists. That must be below Civil Engineers.

Quote from: jroa on January 27, 2015, 02:41:51 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:32:26 PM

Quote from: jroa on January 27, 2015, 02:18:11 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:15:05 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:38:13 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 12:31:55 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:15:33 PM

I actually have 6 PhDs.

Don't break the illusion with preposterous-ness!

Are you implying that I am a liar? I don't appreciate that.

I have a PhD in the following fields:
- Clinical Psychology
- Zoology
- General Engineering
- English Literature
- Art History
- Philosophy

Just a rough estimate, but that is like, 38+ years of schooling. Each PhD would require its own bachelors and masters programs to feed into them. Subtracting your 2 years of general ed underclassmen education, its 6 years per PhD.

Most impressive.

You don't seem to understand transfer credits.

Transfer credits mean a previously taken course will transfer towards a degree you are currently working towards. Besides the General Ed reqs you take in your undergraduate years, which classes from lets say, his general engineering bachelors and Masters and PhD would transfer to his psychology degrees?

I had to take psychology classes for my engineering degree.  I still don't understand what you are having problems understanding.

We know he doesn't even have one Ph.D, although props to him for actually getting "PhD" right this time, unlike last time when he said "PH.D".
Also I find it highly suspect that "General Engineering" exists. That must be below Civil Engineers.

I did not claim that I have a degree in "General Engineering".  I simply claimed that I have an engineering degree. 

We know he doesn't even have one Ph.D, although props to him for actually getting "PhD" right this time, unlike last time when he said "PH.D".
Also I find it highly suspect that "General Engineering" exists. That must be below Civil Engineers.

You're basing this on a typo? Wow, sokarul. That's a new low. 

Hopefully this doesn't become a thread where you whine about your petty grudge for the next few pages. If it does, I'll be sure to report you.

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:32:26 PM

Quote from: jroa on January 27, 2015, 02:18:11 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:15:05 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:38:13 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 12:31:55 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:15:33 PM

I actually have 6 PhDs.

Don't break the illusion with preposterous-ness!

Are you implying that I am a liar? I don't appreciate that.

I have a PhD in the following fields:
- Clinical Psychology
- Zoology
- General Engineering
- English Literature
- Art History
- Philosophy

Just a rough estimate, but that is like, 38+ years of schooling. Each PhD would require its own bachelors and masters programs to feed into them. Subtracting your 2 years of general ed underclassmen education, its 6 years per PhD.

Most impressive.

You don't seem to understand transfer credits.

Transfer credits mean a previously taken course will transfer towards a degree you are currently working towards. Besides the General Ed reqs you take in your undergraduate years, which classes from lets say, his general engineering bachelors and Masters and PhD would transfer to his psychology degrees?

I had to take psychology classes for my engineering degree.  I still don't understand what you are having problems understanding.

Fascinating school you went to.

http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/uclacatalog14-15-519.htm
http://web.mit.edu/catalog/degre.engin.mecha.html
http://me.calpoly.edu/media/uploads/resources/12-10-2014.pdf

Because UCLA, MIT nor Cal Poly seem to require you take psych for an Engineering degree.

Unless, you mean the undergraduate GE, which I have mentioned twice now.

Quote from: jroa on January 27, 2015, 02:41:51 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:32:26 PM

Quote from: jroa on January 27, 2015, 02:18:11 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:15:05 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:38:13 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 12:31:55 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:15:33 PM

I actually have 6 PhDs.

Don't break the illusion with preposterous-ness!

Are you implying that I am a liar? I don't appreciate that.

I have a PhD in the following fields:
- Clinical Psychology
- Zoology
- General Engineering
- English Literature
- Art History
- Philosophy

Just a rough estimate, but that is like, 38+ years of schooling. Each PhD would require its own bachelors and masters programs to feed into them. Subtracting your 2 years of general ed underclassmen education, its 6 years per PhD.

Most impressive.

You don't seem to understand transfer credits.

Transfer credits mean a previously taken course will transfer towards a degree you are currently working towards. Besides the General Ed reqs you take in your undergraduate years, which classes from lets say, his general engineering bachelors and Masters and PhD would transfer to his psychology degrees?

I had to take psychology classes for my engineering degree.  I still don't understand what you are having problems understanding.

Fascinating school you went to.

http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/uclacatalog14-15-519.htm
http://web.mit.edu/catalog/degre.engin.mecha.html
http://me.calpoly.edu/media/uploads/resources/12-10-2014.pdf

Because UCLA, MIT nor Cal Poly seem to require you take psych for an Engineering degree.

Unless, you mean the undergraduate GE, which I have mentioned twice now.

I am still not sure what you are trying to argue with me.  Are you claiming that I did not have to take psychology for my engineering degree, or that the credit would not transfer to a psychology degree, if I one day decided to pursue one ?

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:56:07 PM

Quote from: jroa on January 27, 2015, 02:41:51 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:32:26 PM

Quote from: jroa on January 27, 2015, 02:18:11 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:15:05 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:38:13 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 12:31:55 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:15:33 PM

I actually have 6 PhDs.

Don't break the illusion with preposterous-ness!

Are you implying that I am a liar? I don't appreciate that.

I have a PhD in the following fields:
- Clinical Psychology
- Zoology
- General Engineering
- English Literature
- Art History
- Philosophy

Just a rough estimate, but that is like, 38+ years of schooling. Each PhD would require its own bachelors and masters programs to feed into them. Subtracting your 2 years of general ed underclassmen education, its 6 years per PhD.

Most impressive.

You don't seem to understand transfer credits.

Transfer credits mean a previously taken course will transfer towards a degree you are currently working towards. Besides the General Ed reqs you take in your undergraduate years, which classes from lets say, his general engineering bachelors and Masters and PhD would transfer to his psychology degrees?

I had to take psychology classes for my engineering degree.  I still don't understand what you are having problems understanding.

Fascinating school you went to.

http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/uclacatalog14-15-519.htm
http://web.mit.edu/catalog/degre.engin.mecha.html
http://me.calpoly.edu/media/uploads/resources/12-10-2014.pdf

Because UCLA, MIT nor Cal Poly seem to require you take psych for an Engineering degree.

Unless, you mean the undergraduate GE, which I have mentioned twice now.

I am still not sure what you are trying to argue with me.  Are you claiming that I did not have to take psychology for my engineering degree, or that the credit would not transfer to a psychology degree, if I one day decided to pursue one ?

Why were you forced to take psychology? It's not a normal component of such a course. Or did you attend Tom Bishop's Degree Factory?

Quote from: jroa on January 27, 2015, 03:06:42 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:56:07 PM

Quote from: jroa on January 27, 2015, 02:41:51 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:32:26 PM

Quote from: jroa on January 27, 2015, 02:18:11 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 02:15:05 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:38:13 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on January 27, 2015, 12:31:55 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on January 27, 2015, 12:15:33 PM

I actually have 6 PhDs.

Don't break the illusion with preposterous-ness!

Are you implying that I am a liar? I don't appreciate that.

I have a PhD in the following fields:
- Clinical Psychology
- Zoology
- General Engineering
- English Literature
- Art History
- Philosophy

Just a rough estimate, but that is like, 38+ years of schooling. Each PhD would require its own bachelors and masters programs to feed into them. Subtracting your 2 years of general ed underclassmen education, its 6 years per PhD.

Most impressive.

You don't seem to understand transfer credits.

Transfer credits mean a previously taken course will transfer towards a degree you are currently working towards. Besides the General Ed reqs you take in your undergraduate years, which classes from lets say, his general engineering bachelors and Masters and PhD would transfer to his psychology degrees?

I had to take psychology classes for my engineering degree.  I still don't understand what you are having problems understanding.

Fascinating school you went to.

http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/uclacatalog14-15-519.htm
http://web.mit.edu/catalog/degre.engin.mecha.html
http://me.calpoly.edu/media/uploads/resources/12-10-2014.pdf

Because UCLA, MIT nor Cal Poly seem to require you take psych for an Engineering degree.

Unless, you mean the undergraduate GE, which I have mentioned twice now.

I am still not sure what you are trying to argue with me.  Are you claiming that I did not have to take psychology for my engineering degree, or that the credit would not transfer to a psychology degree, if I one day decided to pursue one ?

Why were you forced to take psychology? It's not a normal component of such a course. Or did you attend Tom Bishop's Degree Factory?

Kinda this jroa. Unless you were using psych to fulfill one of your GE requirements for your undergraduate stuff, I just don't understand why you would have to take it for an Engineering degree. Its liking being forced to take Art Appreciation to get a Masters in Mathematics instead of using it as an easy gimme in your GE Humanities slot.

Not saying you didn't, its just kinda blowing my mind.