What lies outside the ice wall?

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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #150 on: January 31, 2015, 11:43:10 AM »
I like your response Jane and in my meditative state I realized that you might be hot and even if you are not I can use some of that nerd love LOL
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #151 on: January 31, 2015, 11:59:07 AM »
I like your response Jane and in my meditative state I realized that you might be hot and even if you are not I can use some of that nerd love LOL
Unfortunately the divine has informed me you're not all that, and your 'charm' is just a failed evasion. Try again later. (Or, more preferably, don't).
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #152 on: January 31, 2015, 02:49:26 PM »
Jane, do you know what citation is? Citation is quoted information from another person. Why do you need other people tell you what to do or think, or what is real or not?  This is the problem with education in general is that we heavily rely on testimonies of others and refuse to open our eyes and use our soul to gain knowledge. Ask yourself this Jane; When a Buddist monk seek enlightenment does he ask for citations, no rather he maditates and gains knowledge directly from God, directly from the true source. Did Jesus, Mohammed or any biblical prophets of the old testament even read one book in their lifetime? No their knowledge and wisdom came straight from the divine. Hope this answers your question.

I see.
You have found these things out through "meditation" listening to the voices in your head is not a good foundation for a theory.
Your theories are not based on evidence or observations. They are not scientific in the least bit.

If I sit and meditate and come to the conclusion that the earth is actually a flake of oregano on a giant, cosmic pizza, should I beleive and proselytize that?
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #153 on: January 31, 2015, 06:19:52 PM »
I can show you infinite earth beyond Antarctica if you are hot? Send me a pic lol

Pretty creepy, dude. Pretty friggin creepy.
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #154 on: January 31, 2015, 10:33:08 PM »
Jane when you asking for citation in every post you make it makes you sound like a complete nerd, just giving you heads up there!
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I assumed everyone that frequented this website was of that status. Is there something wrong with being a nerd or are you trying to show off on my thread?
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #155 on: February 01, 2015, 03:23:20 AM »
Ask yourself this Jane; When a Buddist monk seek enlightenment does he ask for citations, no rather he maditates and gains knowledge directly from God,

I beleive Buddha is the religious diety you're looking for, thank me later.
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #156 on: February 01, 2015, 05:49:14 AM »
Ask yourself this Jane; When a Buddist monk seek enlightenment does he ask for citations, no rather he meditates and gains knowledge directly from God, directly from the true source.

And that's precisely the reason that Buddhist monks have never launched a man-made communications satellite, or never invented an electronic device, or carried out any stem cell research.

So-called meditation never did, and will never do, anything of a positive nature for mankind, nor improve the dire straits the planet now finds itself in.

Can you name me even one Buddhist monk who's researching the causes and long-term effects of catastrophic global warming for example?  Nope.  They're all safely cloistered away, out of touch with the real world, fooling themselves, and living in an unobtainable dream world.

And if you truly believe in supernatural entities such as gods, then you really need to invent a time machine, and travel back to 2,500 BCE where you'd feel right at home.

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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #157 on: February 01, 2015, 06:05:31 AM »
Ask yourself this Jane; When a Buddist monk seek enlightenment does he ask for citations, no rather he meditates and gains knowledge directly from God, directly from the true source.

And that's precisely the reason that Buddhist monks have never launched a man-made communications satellite, or never invented an electronic device, or carried out any stem cell research.

So-called meditation never did, and will never do, anything of a positive nature for mankind, nor improve the dire straits the planet now finds itself in.

Can you name me even one Buddhist monk who's researching the causes and long-term effects of catastrophic global warming for example?  Nope.  They're all safely cloistered away, out of touch with the real world, fooling themselves, and living in an unobtainable dream world.

And if you truly believe in supernatural entities such as gods, then you really need to invent a time machine, and travel back to 2,500 BCE where you'd feel right at home.


I beg to differ Geoff. Calm thinking never hurt anyone and if people would think a bit about the planet before the take off with some daft idea we could live in a better world. No harm meant.

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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #158 on: February 01, 2015, 11:01:05 AM »
If you don't believe in God of course you gonna listen to other humans who got their information from yet other humans, who claim that their word is absolute truth and just because academia gives them a degree or the government says they are legit, you trust them without any doubt right? Ask yourself this question, out of 6 billion people on earth how many witnessed the curvature, may be a hundred or less? Only the astronauts right? Yet because the government says these are the credible witnesses everyone believes? This is naive and childish. You guys are always seeking authority and people in power telling you how to think and what is real! The templars got you wrapped around their finger. LOL
You follow the truth of others not your own truth, you deny your divine nature and cling unto the will of others. Enlightenment does not come  from taking college courses or reading books. It comes from within and from meditation and prayer, whether it is God or universe its all one of the same.
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #159 on: February 01, 2015, 11:06:48 AM »
Ask yourself this question, out of 6 billion people on earth how many witnessed the curvature, may be a hundred or less?
How many people have witnessed god, or direct evidence of gods.
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #160 on: February 01, 2015, 11:09:37 AM »
God is witnessed by everyone who opens their heart to him, curvature is witnessed by none however LOL
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #161 on: February 01, 2015, 11:19:16 AM »
It comes from within and from meditation and prayer, whether it is God or universe its all one of the same.
Any particular reason you think this works as a way of seeing the truth, or are you just saying it?

Also, there are more ways to see that the Earth's round than getting high enough to see curvature. If you want me to teach you fairly basic meteorology, you can see various aspects of weather systems only exist under RET (and I'm pretty sure hurricanes would be impossible but haven't had the opportunity to calculate and compare that yet). If you want to take a couple of flights, you can see the flight times only make sense on a sphere.

Also, any reason you're saying scientists etc are not credible witnesses, or are you just saying the world's flat and rejecting anything that says otherwise?
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #162 on: February 01, 2015, 11:25:09 AM »
God is witnessed by everyone who opens their heart to him, curvature is witnessed by none however LOL

Correction: nobody has witnessed curvature that you flat earthers consider trustworthy, and what makes them untrustworthy to you is that they have evidence that the Earth is round.  This is called circular reasoning.
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #163 on: February 01, 2015, 11:37:00 AM »
God is witnessed by everyone who opens their heart to him, curvature is witnessed by none however LOL

Correction: nobody has witnessed curvature that you flat earthers consider trustworthy, and what makes them untrustworthy to you is that they have evidence that the Earth is round.  This is called circular reasoning.

They work just like Stephen Hawking's theory of the beginning of the Universe. "The Universe created itself because it willed itself to exist" <- not exact, but the same idea

OT: Dude, you ask for pics of BiJane? Please, stop being a creep and just go online and use an escort service if you're that lonely

Anyways, you can't use God as a scientific fact as he's never been observed by those except believers and converts.

The curvature of the earth can be observed with a camera, a computer, and some photoediting software that can shrink the horizontal of the picture of the horizon so it becomes greatly exaggerated and calculable
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #164 on: February 01, 2015, 01:01:58 PM »
I asked for pic of Jane not because I'm lonely but because she seems like an interesting person and what is wrong with making new friends?  Why is it when a man is interested in a woman he is considered creepy in America? I think things like pedophilia is creepy, I think its perfectly normal for a man to ask a woman out, whether its online or in real life.

Now back to the topic, ya all asked why I don't trust scientists right? Because science is dictated and controlled by the government and whenever government is involved it automatically becomes political and non scientific. Take a look at Nazi Germany for example, their scientists claimed that Jews were inferior and that Aryans came from the stars, is this real science, or is it simply state politics?
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #165 on: February 01, 2015, 01:07:26 PM »
I asked for pic of Jane not because I'm lonely but because she seems like an interesting person and what is wrong with making new friends?  Why is it when a man is interested in a woman he is considered creepy in America? I think things like pedophilia is creepy, I think its perfectly normal for a man to ask a woman out, whether its online or in real life.
It's creepy because you apparently thought a valid addition to a logical discussion was to ignore everything that had been said and try to flirt. There's a time and a place. Hint: if you don't seriously expect someone to say 'yes', then it's creepy.


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Now back to the topic, ya all asked why I don't trust scientists right? Because science is dictated and controlled by the government and whenever government is involved it automatically becomes political and scientific. Take a look at Nazi Germany for example, their scientists claimed that Jews were inferior and that Aryans came from the stars, is this real science, or is it simply state politics?
Except said scientists started at that point of view rather than demonstrating it through experimentation, and there was plainly no global consensus on the issue.
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #166 on: February 01, 2015, 01:31:46 PM »
Now back to the topic, ya all asked why I don't trust scientists right? Because science is dictated and controlled by the government and whenever government is involved it automatically becomes political and non scientific. Take a look at Nazi Germany for example, their scientists claimed that Jews were inferior and that Aryans came from the stars, is this real science, or is it simply state politics?

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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #167 on: February 01, 2015, 02:34:57 PM »
Now back to the topic, ya all asked why I don't trust scientists right? Because science is dictated and controlled by the government and whenever government is involved it automatically becomes political and non scientific. Take a look at Nazi Germany for example, their scientists claimed that Jews were inferior and that Aryans came from the stars, is this real science, or is it simply state politics?

Godwin's law proved again.

Of no relevance, as the premise that Godwin's law rests on also applies to every other topic it is possible to discuss. Furthermore, this is not invoking it as a comparison but as an illustrative example. Godwin's law requires a comparison, i.e. saying something is like the Nazis.
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #168 on: February 01, 2015, 06:32:00 PM »
I asked for pic of Jane not because I'm lonely but because she seems like an interesting person and what is wrong with making new friends?  Why is it when a man is interested in a woman he is considered creepy in America? I think things like pedophilia is creepy, I think its perfectly normal for a man to ask a woman out, whether its online or in real life.
It's creepy because you apparently thought a valid addition to a logical discussion was to ignore everything that had been said and try to flirt. There's a time and a place. Hint: if you don't seriously expect someone to say 'yes', then it's creepy.


That and the fact he mentioned multiple times he wanted to have sex with you. That's not exactly "looking for new friends" it's just creepy.

Either way it's also hypocritical as hell to do that in one breath and then in the other preach about the will of God.
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #169 on: February 01, 2015, 07:34:36 PM »
Despite of what these authoritarian churches are saying, I don't believe that God is against sex, he would not create male and female if he was. Anyways Jane is most likely a man so I guess it is a little creepy. But let's examine what Americans mean by creepy. Things that are perfectly normal and natural, or whenever someone tries to initiate friendship or tries to be sociable is labeled as creepy, no one wonder America is heading straight down the toilet, but that's another topic all together.

Back to the topic; In Nazi Germany scientists didn't just follow what Hitler was saying, he made scientists do experiments and measure people's skulls along with other biological experiments. German scientists truly believed that Aryans were a super race and everyone else were subhuman. Scientists were not forced to accept this, they believed this firmly. Scientists are sheep, they believe what Government says and then they perform some tests to justify their B.S. and its done. In America scientists also believed that blacks were inferior, and they tested their theory. My point is, there is no such thing as testing non sense. Most of science is non sense.
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #170 on: February 01, 2015, 09:50:52 PM »
Despite of what these authoritarian churches are saying, I don't believe that God is against sex, he would not create male and female if he was. Anyways Jane is most likely a man so I guess it is a little creepy. But let's examine what Americans mean by creepy. Things that are perfectly normal and natural, or whenever someone tries to initiate friendship or tries to be sociable is labeled as creepy, no one wonder America is heading straight down the toilet, but that's another topic all together.

Back to the topic; In Nazi Germany scientists didn't just follow what Hitler was saying, he made scientists do experiments and measure people's skulls along with other biological experiments. German scientists truly believed that Aryans were a super race and everyone else were subhuman. Scientists were not forced to accept this, they believed this firmly. Scientists are sheep, they believe what Government says and then they perform some tests to justify their B.S. and its done. In America scientists also believed that blacks were inferior, and they tested their theory. My point is, there is no such thing as testing non sense. Most of science is non sense.

First trying to be friends is one thing, both Jane and orifiel seem like amazing ladies and I would like to be friends with them, sure. But you in the same breath said you hoped she was hot but even if she wasn't she should sleep with you. That's creepy. Not trying to be friends.

Second Hitler did believe that Aryans were the master race, but all the measurements and science experiments were Himmler thing. Hitler didn't believe that a proof was needed for the most part. It was Himmler that made the bible that said they were special, sent scientists to the Himalayas to look at Tibetans because he thought the Atlantians had bred with them and they might find the link to Aryans and so forth. There were others that also did it, but as the head of the SS Himmler really was the driving force for that movement in the Nazi regime.
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #171 on: February 01, 2015, 09:54:42 PM »
And thirdly, they tested those theories and couldn't prove them. Resulting ultimately in all of those theories being rejected. Proving the validity of science.

You seem to have skipped that step in your reasoning.
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #172 on: February 02, 2015, 12:54:02 AM »
Is every thread going to turn into some shitty religious debate?
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #173 on: February 02, 2015, 01:14:12 AM »
It's creepy because you apparently thought a valid addition to a logical discussion was to ignore everything that had been said and try to flirt. There's a time and a place. Hint: if you don't seriously expect someone to say 'yes', then it's creepy.

I agree Jane;  in the context of this forum, New Earth's repeated requests for "hot" pics is definitely inappropriate, demeaning, and "creepy".

He seems to have mistaken this site for a dating site.  Or maybe he's just lonely and trawls different forums hoping some woman will actually respond with pics?  I've reported his comments for deletion as offensive and a breach of forum rules.

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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #174 on: February 02, 2015, 03:19:20 AM »
Is every thread going to turn into some shitty religious debate?

Does look that way. Can they have their own sandpit.

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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #175 on: February 02, 2015, 03:39:20 AM »
Despite of what these authoritarian churches are saying, I don't believe that God is against sex, he would not create male and female if he was. Anyways Jane is most likely a man so I guess it is a little creepy. But let's examine what Americans mean by creepy. Things that are perfectly normal and natural, or whenever someone tries to initiate friendship or tries to be sociable is labeled as creepy, no one wonder America is heading straight down the toilet, but that's another topic all together.
If you were going to initiate friendship, why would it matter whether or not I was hot? And if you think I'm a man, why ask? That much is definitely against God, bad luck.

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Back to the topic; In Nazi Germany scientists didn't just follow what Hitler was saying, he made scientists do experiments and measure people's skulls along with other biological experiments. German scientists truly believed that Aryans were a super race and everyone else were subhuman. Scientists were not forced to accept this, they believed this firmly. Scientists are sheep, they believe what Government says and then they perform some tests to justify their B.S. and its done. In America scientists also believed that blacks were inferior, and they tested their theory. My point is, there is no such thing as testing non sense. Most of science is non sense.
Which, even granting that, fails to form a reasonable analogy. Neither of your examples is accurate: both prey on the scientists having pre-existing prejudices.
A prejudice is different to a scientific belief. A scientist who found proof of FET would be applauded for successfully shattering an age-old mistake. A prejudice is not the same thing, at all. Scientists study what they're told or paid to do, maybe. Even if this would somehow result in a global consensus (which it just doesn't) it makes no sense for some official to approach a university with "Hi! Would you mind finding proof that the Earth's flat for us? ta, very much."
I think the conspiracy was meant to be a secret...
Long story short: bad analogies aren't really relevant to anything.
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #176 on: February 02, 2015, 08:25:33 PM »
It's creepy because you apparently thought a valid addition to a logical discussion was to ignore everything that had been said and try to flirt. There's a time and a place. Hint: if you don't seriously expect someone to say 'yes', then it's creepy.

I agree Jane;  in the context of this forum, New Earth's repeated requests for "hot" pics is definitely inappropriate, demeaning, and "creepy".

He seems to have mistaken this site for a dating site.  Or maybe he's just lonely and trawls different forums hoping some woman will actually respond with pics?  I've reported his comments for deletion as offensive and a breach of forum rules.
I dont know about creepy, highly sleazy is probable a better use of terminology. However in saying  that .I find Jane's writings quite luring to say the very lest , regardless of her opposing veiws of earth . But  then again I do find woman who can express them self intelligently, extremly  atractive & desirable. What morron like my self  wouldn't.
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #177 on: February 02, 2015, 08:34:41 PM »
What is happening on this thread reminds me of this comic:

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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #178 on: February 02, 2015, 09:52:39 PM »
What is happening on this thread reminds me of this comic:



Lol, as someone who also loves nerdy girls I like this idea.
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Re: What lies outside the ice wall?
« Reply #179 on: February 03, 2015, 04:04:04 AM »
You people are desperate. Words on a webpage, really?

I dont know about creepy, highly sleazy is probable a better use of terminology. However in saying  that .I find Jane's writings quite luring to say the very lest
Sleazy is right. Seriously?!
(And not talking about Newie any more  :-\ )

Lol, as someone who also loves nerdy girls I like this idea.
And you've also ended up being the reason we need EMP cannons. Woo.

Currently, mikeman's the one I'm supporting. And sorry Jimmy, apparently this isn't a religious debate any more, just libido.
Can we please move on?
(I mean, really. Mods'll probably split this topic soon, and as much as I'm curious as to what they could possibly call it, I'd rather not give you a thread dedicated to it).
Also, I have a girlfriend, so you're all barking up the wrong tree in an impressive number of ways.
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