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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10710 on: June 17, 2019, 03:03:57 AM »
Topic is how to travel to the Moon.

Cross your eyes and go for it.



Many persons think it is easy. You just take off from Earth and land on the Moon using a spacecraft.

Always use appropriate protection.



Then there is the question of the fuel - topic. How much?

Mission dependent. Good to hold some in reserve just in case.



Nobody seems to know.

Evaluate after the mission.



But how can you explore the Universe without knowing how much fuel you need?

Typically two drinks.
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10711 on: June 17, 2019, 08:21:55 AM »
Topic is how to travel to the Moon. See post #1. Many persons think it is easy.
None of those people who think traveling to the moon is easy know the first thing about traveling to the moon.  Traveling to the moon is very, very difficult.  That's why so few people have ever done it and why it took the Cold War to make it happen in the first place.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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« Reply #10712 on: June 17, 2019, 09:08:44 AM »
Topic is how to travel to the Moon. See post #1. Many persons think it is easy.
None of those people who think traveling to the moon is easy know the first thing about traveling to the moon.  Traveling to the moon is very, very difficult.  That's why so few people have ever done it and why it took the Cold War to make it happen in the first place.
Hm, most people saying they have been to the Moon are, IMHO, stupid actors. When you ask them for details outside the script, they have no idea. It has become a job. They hm, hm. But they are paid for life doing it, so what? They become alcoholics. Nothing else to do, all day long. Drinks before breakfast, lunch, afternoon tea, dinner, before watching (?) TV and going to or falling into bed. I really feel sorry for them. An empty life. Like space. Cold war? It just kept brainless military idiots busy.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10713 on: June 18, 2019, 03:23:01 PM »
Most people who speak nonsense like Heiwa are just stupid.
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« Reply #10714 on: June 19, 2019, 03:59:48 AM »
Most people who speak nonsense like Heiwa are just stupid.
Please explain more. Why am I stupid and what nonsense do I speak? Topic? About fuel required to go to the Moon?
See post #1++++ . You need fuel to move around! So how much for the Moon? http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm

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« Reply #10715 on: July 07, 2019, 02:25:31 AM »
Please explain more. Why am I stupid and what nonsense do I speak? Topic? About fuel required to go to the Moon?
See post #1++++ . You need fuel to move around! So how much for the Moon? http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10716 on: July 07, 2019, 12:09:37 PM »
Lol, I can't believe this thread is still going.

Props to heiwa for having so many people with such a large erection for him.

Can you prove to these twerps that you are loaded heiwa?? It's easy, has it not been long enough of this game?
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10717 on: July 07, 2019, 01:04:04 PM »
Lol, I can't believe this thread is still going.

Props to heiwa for having so many people with such a large erection for him.

Can you prove to these twerps that you are loaded heiwa?? It's easy, has it not been long enough of this game?

Only a twerp would think Heiwa was a troll.

Only a twerp would think that the M/S Estonia didn't sink as a result of the bow visor being ripped off in rough seas.
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10718 on: July 08, 2019, 11:02:05 AM »
Please explain more. Why am I stupid and what nonsense do I speak? Topic? About fuel required to go to the Moon?
See post #1++++ . You need fuel to move around! So how much for the Moon?
Apollo required about 5.5 million pounds of propellant to get to the moon and back.  Other missions may require more or less propellant depending the exact mission profile.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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« Reply #10719 on: July 08, 2019, 05:29:43 PM »
Please explain more. Why am I stupid and what nonsense do I speak? Topic? About fuel required to go to the Moon?
See post #1++++ . You need fuel to move around! So how much for the Moon?
Apollo required about 5.5 million pounds of propellant to get to the moon and back.  Other missions may require more or less propellant depending the exact mission profile.

No, it is not possible for a spacecraft to travel to the Moon and back. Anyone suggesting having done it 50 years ago is a fraud.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10720 on: July 08, 2019, 07:24:59 PM »
Please explain more. Why am I stupid and what nonsense do I speak? Topic? About fuel required to go to the Moon?
See post #1++++ . You need fuel to move around! So how much for the Moon?
Apollo required about 5.5 million pounds of propellant to get to the moon and back.  Other missions may require more or less propellant depending the exact mission profile.

No, it is not possible for a spacecraft to travel to the Moon and back. Anyone suggesting having done it 50 years ago is a fraud.

We are talking simply about fuel and that is what you want. Rather a human can make it there or not is of no importance
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10721 on: July 09, 2019, 06:15:46 AM »
Please explain more. Why am I stupid and what nonsense do I speak? Topic? About fuel required to go to the Moon?
See post #1++++ . You need fuel to move around! So how much for the Moon?
Apollo required about 5.5 million pounds of propellant to get to the moon and back.  Other missions may require more or less propellant depending the exact mission profile.

No, it is not possible for a spacecraft to travel to the Moon and back. Anyone suggesting having done it 50 years ago is a fraud.
Why do you keep asking questions when you refuse to accept the answers?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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« Reply #10722 on: July 10, 2019, 05:03:06 AM »
Please explain more. Why am I stupid and what nonsense do I speak? Topic? About fuel required to go to the Moon?
See post #1++++ . You need fuel to move around! So how much for the Moon?
Apollo required about 5.5 million pounds of propellant to get to the moon and back.  Other missions may require more or less propellant depending the exact mission profile.

No, it is not possible for a spacecraft to travel to the Moon and back. Anyone suggesting having done it 50 years ago is a fraud.
Why do you keep asking questions when you refuse to accept the answers?
Topic is my Challenge and I always reply to questions about it. I do not keep asking questions of any kind. My biz is Safety at Sea - http://heiwaco.com - where I reply to many questions about it - free of charge.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10723 on: July 10, 2019, 08:11:07 AM »
Heiwa, you have been given the answer for how much fuel it will take I don't know how many times. I have always had questions on the moonlanding if it actually happened, mainly because I don't buy that we can't figure out how to go now 50 years later when we "did it" in a tin can with computers as powerful as an average calculator the first time.

It seems like the perfect time to fake something like that...which I don't even disagree with it if they did. However, the amount of fuel of getting an unmanned shuttle to the moon and back is not exactly "rocket science" any more.

Just accept defeat on that one at least....

We don't need money, just show us a tiny bit of proof you are loaded and we can all be done with this thread. Has it not been long enough? Markjo, frenat and all the other people who can't let you go need to move on.

Do it for them heiwa, FOR THEM!
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« Reply #10724 on: July 10, 2019, 09:38:11 AM »
Heiwa, you have been given the answer for how much fuel it will take I don't know how many times. I have always had questions on the moonlanding if it actually happened, mainly because I don't buy that we can't figure out how to go now 50 years later when we "did it" in a tin can with computers as powerful as an average calculator the first time.

It seems like the perfect time to fake something like that...which I don't even disagree with it if they did. However, the amount of fuel of getting an unmanned shuttle to the moon and back is not exactly "rocket science" any more.

Just accept defeat on that one at least....

We don't need money, just show us a tiny bit of proof you are loaded and we can all be done with this thread. Has it not been long enough? Markjo, frenat and all the other people who can't let you go need to move on.

Do it for them heiwa, FOR THEM!
I have not seen any answers. Pls copy any I have missed.

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« Reply #10725 on: July 10, 2019, 09:52:36 AM »
I have not seen any answers. Pls copy any I have missed.

Liar.  Here's an answer that you "missed":
Please explain more. Why am I stupid and what nonsense do I speak? Topic? About fuel required to go to the Moon?
See post #1++++ . You need fuel to move around! So how much for the Moon?
Apollo required about 5.5 million pounds of propellant to get to the moon and back.  Other missions may require more or less propellant depending the exact mission profile.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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« Reply #10726 on: July 10, 2019, 10:20:13 AM »
I have not seen any answers. Pls copy any I have missed.

Liar.  Here's an answer that you "missed":
Please explain more. Why am I stupid and what nonsense do I speak? Topic? About fuel required to go to the Moon?
See post #1++++ . You need fuel to move around! So how much for the Moon?
Apollo required about 5.5 million pounds of propellant to get to the moon and back.  Other missions may require more or less propellant depending the exact mission profile.
Hm, somebody said 5.5 million pounds of propellant were used but ... you cannot lift that into space.

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« Reply #10727 on: July 10, 2019, 01:03:41 PM »
I have not seen any answers. Pls copy any I have missed.

Liar.  Here's an answer that you "missed":
Please explain more. Why am I stupid and what nonsense do I speak? Topic? About fuel required to go to the Moon?
See post #1++++ . You need fuel to move around! So how much for the Moon?
Apollo required about 5.5 million pounds of propellant to get to the moon and back.  Other missions may require more or less propellant depending the exact mission profile.
Hm, somebody said 5.5 million pounds of propellant were used but ... you cannot lift that into space.
You can if you have 5 very large rocket engines providing a total of 7.5 million pounds of thrust.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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« Reply #10728 on: July 11, 2019, 03:47:38 AM »
I have not seen any answers. Pls copy any I have missed.

Liar.  Here's an answer that you "missed":
Please explain more. Why am I stupid and what nonsense do I speak? Topic? About fuel required to go to the Moon?
See post #1++++ . You need fuel to move around! So how much for the Moon?
Apollo required about 5.5 million pounds of propellant to get to the moon and back.  Other missions may require more or less propellant depending the exact mission profile.
Hm, somebody said 5.5 million pounds of propellant were used but ... you cannot lift that into space.
You can if you have 5 very large rocket engines providing a total of 7.5 million pounds of thrust.
No, you need too much fuel to get off the ground and into various orbits. I explain why at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm .

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« Reply #10729 on: July 11, 2019, 05:40:19 AM »
The only thing you explain at your conspiracy theorist website is how willfully ignorant you are of facts.
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10730 on: July 11, 2019, 06:11:03 AM »
I have not seen any answers. Pls copy any I have missed.

Liar.  Here's an answer that you "missed":
Please explain more. Why am I stupid and what nonsense do I speak? Topic? About fuel required to go to the Moon?
See post #1++++ . You need fuel to move around! So how much for the Moon?
Apollo required about 5.5 million pounds of propellant to get to the moon and back.  Other missions may require more or less propellant depending the exact mission profile.
Hm, somebody said 5.5 million pounds of propellant were used but ... you cannot lift that into space.
You can if you have 5 very large rocket engines providing a total of 7.5 million pounds of thrust.
No, you need too much fuel to get off the ground and into various orbits. I explain why at...
The rocket equation explains why you're wrong and that it's just the right amount of propellant for a well planned mission to get to the moon and back.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsiolkovsky_rocket_equation
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10731 on: July 11, 2019, 10:12:03 AM »
I have not seen any answers. Pls copy any I have missed.

Liar.  Here's an answer that you "missed":
Please explain more. Why am I stupid and what nonsense do I speak? Topic? About fuel required to go to the Moon?
See post #1++++ . You need fuel to move around! So how much for the Moon?
Apollo required about 5.5 million pounds of propellant to get to the moon and back.  Other missions may require more or less propellant depending the exact mission profile.
Hm, somebody said 5.5 million pounds of propellant were used but ... you cannot lift that into space.
You can if you have 5 very large rocket engines providing a total of 7.5 million pounds of thrust.
No, you need too much fuel to get off the ground and into various orbits. I explain why at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm .

That's why you add giant storage tanks of fuel that fall off when a certain altitude is reached.

You even say you believe in rockets and satellites... Are you just objecting to do so?
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but no, instead, here comes the amalgamation of Ned Flanders, Bono, Ross Geller, Tim Henman, John Snow and fucking Rick Grimes’s fucking one eyed son.

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« Reply #10732 on: July 11, 2019, 11:47:57 AM »
I have not seen any answers. Pls copy any I have missed.

Liar.  Here's an answer that you "missed":
Please explain more. Why am I stupid and what nonsense do I speak? Topic? About fuel required to go to the Moon?
See post #1++++ . You need fuel to move around! So how much for the Moon?
Apollo required about 5.5 million pounds of propellant to get to the moon and back.  Other missions may require more or less propellant depending the exact mission profile.
Hm, somebody said 5.5 million pounds of propellant were used but ... you cannot lift that into space.
You can if you have 5 very large rocket engines providing a total of 7.5 million pounds of thrust.
No, you need too much fuel to get off the ground and into various orbits. I explain why at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm .

That's why you add giant storage tanks of fuel that fall off when a certain altitude is reached.

You even say you believe in rockets and satellites... Are you just objecting to do so?
Sending satellites one way into orbits is easy. My company does it. Problem is sending humans into space. They can never return alive. So these American clowns that went to the Moon 50 years ago were just ... lying actors.

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« Reply #10733 on: July 11, 2019, 02:25:27 PM »
Sending satellites one way into orbits is easy.
No, it really isn't.  You have to make sure that you have enough fuel to a satellite tens of thousands of miles high.  How do you figure out how much fuel you need to get to geostationary orbit?  You have to make sure that your rocket engine is pointing in just the right direction and fire it at exactly the right time and for exactly the right amount of time.  How do you know what direction to point the rocket engine?  How do you know where the rocket needs to be when you fire the rocket engine?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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« Reply #10734 on: July 11, 2019, 10:21:02 PM »
Sending satellites one way into orbits is easy.
No, it really isn't.  You have to make sure that you have enough fuel to a satellite tens of thousands of miles high.  How do you figure out how much fuel you need to get to geostationary orbit?  You have to make sure that your rocket engine is pointing in just the right direction and fire it at exactly the right time and for exactly the right amount of time.  How do you know what direction to point the rocket engine?  How do you know where the rocket needs to be when you fire the rocket engine?
Well, French Arianespace SA sends unmanned, small satellites into various low altitude Earth orbits all the time ... but that is all it does.  Just visit it's website. Of course the European Space Agency, ESA, says that Arianespace has sent ESA space crafts to far away asteroids and that they will return to Earth but it is just Fake News by ESA.
NASA said 50 years ago that they sent 3 Americans to the Moon but it was also Fake News. It was just a pre-recorded Hollywood show. You really have to check any info about space travel. IMO only one-way unmanned trips are possible. To return from space and land on Earth - a re-entry - is not possible. You are going too fast and cannot brake and slow down.
It is the reason why nobody wins my Challenge - topic. See post #1. Note that this thread has been viewed 469309 times since January 2015, i.e. >8 600 times per month or almost 300 times/day ... and nobody has collected €1M! And reasons are that manned space travel is impossible and stupid.
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« Reply #10735 on: July 12, 2019, 11:09:42 AM »
Well, French Arianespace SA sends unmanned, small satellites into various low altitude Earth orbits all the time ...
Liar.  They can't carry enough fuel to get that heavy rocket and satellte off the ground and they don't know how to aim the rocket engine or tell it when to fire so it can transfer from LEO to geostationary orbit.  It's all fake news propaganda and you're being defrauded.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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« Reply #10736 on: July 12, 2019, 10:28:49 PM »
Well, French Arianespace SA sends unmanned, small satellites into various low altitude Earth orbits all the time ...
Liar.  They can't carry enough fuel to get that heavy rocket and satellte off the ground and they don't know how to aim the rocket engine or tell it when to fire so it can transfer from LEO to geostationary orbit.  It's all fake news propaganda and you're being defrauded.
No, only one-way satellite launches into orbits around Earth are possible. Everything else including being able to return from space and land on Earth is Fake News. 

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10737 on: July 12, 2019, 11:22:39 PM »
Well, French Arianespace SA sends unmanned, small satellites into various low altitude Earth orbits all the time ...
Liar.  They can't carry enough fuel to get that heavy rocket and satellte off the ground and they don't know how to aim the rocket engine or tell it when to fire so it can transfer from LEO to geostationary orbit.  It's all fake news propaganda and you're being defrauded.
No, only one-way satellite launches into orbits around Earth are possible. Everything else including being able to return from space and land on Earth is Fake News.
Prove it! 
Saturn V was  monster compared to the toys that Arianespace SA sends into space!

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« Reply #10738 on: July 13, 2019, 05:11:44 AM »
Well, French Arianespace SA sends unmanned, small satellites into various low altitude Earth orbits all the time ...
Liar.  They can't carry enough fuel to get that heavy rocket and satellte off the ground and they don't know how to aim the rocket engine or tell it when to fire so it can transfer from LEO to geostationary orbit.  It's all fake news propaganda and you're being defrauded.
No, only one-way satellite launches into orbits around Earth are possible. Everything else including being able to return from space and land on Earth is Fake News.
Prove it! 
Saturn V was  monster compared to the toys that Arianespace SA sends into space!

No, in this thread you should show how to fly to the Moon and back and what fuel is required. It was done 50 years ago ... by some criminals ... assisted by Hollywood ... and stupid Americans believed it then ... and today. I really feel sorry for USA and this rubbish.

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« Reply #10739 on: July 13, 2019, 10:07:28 AM »
No, only one-way satellite launches into orbits around Earth are possible.
Then show me how you calculate how much fuel is required to send a satellite to geostationary orbit.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.