I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge

Quote from: markjo on October 05, 2016, 03:07:58 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on October 05, 2016, 11:39:47 AM

Quote from: markjo on October 05, 2016, 11:08:50 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on October 05, 2016, 11:03:50 AM

Quote from: markjo on October 05, 2016, 10:16:48 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on October 04, 2016, 02:13:45 PM

The Challenge is to calculate the fuel required for each manoeuvre starting with the one of getting out of EPO.
You sound like not knowing much about human spacetravel. Why don't you ask NASA of SpaceX for assistance? How do they intend to fly to Mars and how much fuel is required? Why don't they publish it?

I'm guessing that they don't publish the fuel required for manned mars missions is because those missions are still in the early planning stages and the hardware has not yet been finalized.

Why do you guess? Did you ask them?
Do you know anything about human spacetravel. You sound like an amateur.

Evidently I know more about human space travel than you do.  For example, I know that "space travel" is two words.

Thanks. I know it too. But to save space I make it one. Sorry it makes you wet and shit your pants.

I only wet and shit my pants from laughing so hard at your ignorance.

I am not sorry to hear that. It happens to all twerps misunderstanding my qualifications and shilling on internet forums.

I cannot understand it. Astrophysics, rocket sciences, etc, etc, is taught at universities since the 1960's but nobody using that knowledge can win my €1M Challenge started 2012.

What is wrong? You? Or the rocket sciences?

The problem to start the space voyage is simple:

You/your spacecraft orbit Earth at a certain time/altitude, while Earth and you rotate 360°/day. At the same time Earth and you orbit the Sun in a year. You are supposed to start travel to the Moon or Mars, two heavenly bodies orbiting Earth and Sun respectively, and for that you have to apply a force (using your rocket engine) in the right direction, time, location, magnitude, duration. To do that you must know where you are.

So where are you, when you fire your rocket engine?

If you know it, you are on your way winning my Challenge.

I look forward to your application to win my Challenge.

"As for the reentry part, I drew a diagram..."

There are lots of ways of determining where you are in space.  You can use RADAR ground stations to track you, or you can use the positions of various stars.  I'm not sure why you have such a hard time understanding that.

"Fed up with space games that insult your intelligence and violate every law of physics?"

"Orbiter is a simulator that gives you an idea what space flight really feels like"

"The concept is similar to traditional flight simulator software, but you are not limited to atmospheric flight"

Quote from: mikeman7918 on January 08, 2015, 09:26:40 AM

"As for the reentry part, I drew a diagram..."

This is OP's proof that he won Heiwa's Challenge.

A flight simulator.

http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/index.html

If you're going to the moon for a few days, fluids can be stored in a bag, feces can be absorbed by a diaper.

Inside the Space Shuttle, there are no wash basins or showers, but the Shuttles do have toilets.

http://iss.jaxa.jp/kids/en/life/04.html

Breaking a toilet is indeed expensive and inconvenient — not to mention unhealthy. After the sole toilet on the International Space Station had been plagued by a series of problems and breakdowns, NASA bought a second, $19 million Russian commode that was installed in the orbiting outpost's U.S. segment in 2008.

http://www.space.com/22597-space-poop-astronaut-toilet-explained.html

"They realized that a large part of the damage to these solar panels was frozen urine floating in space at very high speeds,"

http://www.space.com/22597-space-poop-astronaut-toilet-explained.html

Quote from: markjo on October 06, 2016, 10:16:42 AM

There are lots of ways of determining where you are in space.  You can use RADAR ground stations to track you, or you can use the positions of various stars.  I'm not sure why you have such a hard time understanding that.

Hm, you are orbiting in space turning at high speed all the time and you use RADAR ground stations to track you and stars for position, so you know when to blast away to the Moon or Mars.

But this is what we do on seagoing ships to go from one port to another, but we are not blasting away into space.

I think you mix things up. Navigation at sea is different from human space travel. At sea the position of the ports on Earth are fixed and your speed is quite low and you can change course quite easy to adjust your trajectory. In space the ports are not fixed but orbiting all the time so you have to ensure they are there when you arrive. Different ball game.

Quote from: Heiwa on October 06, 2016, 11:29:52 AM

Quote from: markjo on October 06, 2016, 10:16:42 AM

There are lots of ways of determining where you are in space.  You can use RADAR ground stations to track you, or you can use the positions of various stars.  I'm not sure why you have such a hard time understanding that.

Hm, you are orbiting in space turning at high speed all the time and you use RADAR ground stations to track you and stars for position, so you know when to blast away to the Moon or Mars.

But this is what we do on seagoing ships to go from one port to another, but we are not blasting away into space.

I think you mix things up. Navigation at sea is different from human space travel. At sea the position of the ports on Earth are fixed and your speed is quite low and you can change course quite easy to adjust your trajectory. In space the ports are not fixed but orbiting all the time so you have to ensure they are there when you arrive. Different ball game.

Have you ever shot skeet?  Hitting a moving target is tricky, but not impossible.  The distances involved in going to the moon or Mars means that you have plenty of time en route to make any necessary course corrections. It's not as if the wind or currents will take you off course or anything.

Quote from: markjo on October 06, 2016, 12:16:19 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on October 06, 2016, 11:29:52 AM

Quote from: markjo on October 06, 2016, 10:16:42 AM

There are lots of ways of determining where you are in space.  You can use RADAR ground stations to track you, or you can use the positions of various stars.  I'm not sure why you have such a hard time understanding that.

Hm, you are orbiting in space turning at high speed all the time and you use RADAR ground stations to track you and stars for position, so you know when to blast away to the Moon or Mars.

But this is what we do on seagoing ships to go from one port to another, but we are not blasting away into space.

I think you mix things up. Navigation at sea is different from human space travel. At sea the position of the ports on Earth are fixed and your speed is quite low and you can change course quite easy to adjust your trajectory. In space the ports are not fixed but orbiting all the time so you have to ensure they are there when you arrive. Different ball game.

Have you ever shot skeet?  Hitting a moving target is tricky, but not impossible.  The distances involved in going to the moon or Mars means that you have plenty of time en route to make any necessary course corrections. It's not as if the wind or currents will take you off course or anything.

I have done military service in the Royal Swedish Navy 1965/70 including a lot of training shooting with various weapons. Objective was to wipe out the enemy soldiers in front of me or to kill a single enemy with a shot between his/her eyes or ... my weapon ... to blow up an enemy ship with a sea mine killing thousands and sinking plenty enemy goods. I loved it!

The targets were always moving ... but not very fast ... but there was no time to correct anything. If I didn't shoot first, the risk was that I was shot. But I was never afraid. If you are in the military biz killing is part of it. The reward is being admired by our female helpers - the lottas.

Have you ever done anything military? Training killing people?

But you are off topic. Topic is my Challenge - a peaceful manned trip to Mars and Moon. Do not change the subject with your nonsense. Skeet! Weekend fun!

How about telling me the requirements for getting evidence you can afford to pay if someone wins your "challenge"?

Quote from: Woody on October 06, 2016, 02:52:50 PM

How about telling me the requirements for getting evidence you can afford to pay if someone wins your "challenge"?

You added nothing but insults and "scientific" terms used for no particular purpose other than to further those insults.

Quote from: Woody on October 06, 2016, 02:52:50 PM

How about telling me the requirements for getting evidence you can afford to pay if someone wins your "challenge"?

You added nothing but insults and "scientific" terms used for no particular purpose other than to further those insults.

You know U.S. currency isn't printed on paper right?  You should re photoshop it more correctly say "I AM A PIECE OF 25 PERCENT LINEN AND 75 PERCENT COTTON WITH RED AND BLUE SYNTHETIC FIBERS OF VARIOUS LENGTH DISTRIBUTED EVENLY THROUGHOUT THE SURFACE AND I OWN YOUR SOUL".  You might have to write part of that on the back of the bill.

Quote from: crutonius on October 06, 2016, 03:44:15 PM

You know U.S. currency isn't printed on paper right?  You should re photoshop it more correctly say "I AM A PIECE OF 25 PERCENT LINEN AND 75 PERCENT COTTON WITH RED AND BLUE SYNTHETIC FIBERS OF VARIOUS LENGTH DISTRIBUTED EVENLY THROUGHOUT THE SURFACE AND I OWN YOUR SOUL".  You might have to write part of that on the back of the bill.

Actually, paper can be made from a variety of natural and/or synthetic fibers, including cotton and linen.  Or have you never heard the term "rag content" when referring to paper?

I have done military service in the Royal Swedish Navy 1965/70 including a lot of training shooting with various weapons. Objective was to wipe out the enemy soldiers in front of me or to kill a single enemy with a shot between his/her eyes or ... my weapon ... to blow up an enemy ship with a sea mine killing thousands and sinking plenty enemy goods. I loved it!

The targets were always moving ... but not very fast ... but there was no time to correct anything.

So you were in the Kustjδgarna?  I am guessing your memory is failing you again and your service and training did not focus on ground combat.  You maybe went to a firing range once to twice a year. My guess the focus would have been only on side arms.

Quote from: Heiwa on October 06, 2016, 01:38:36 PM

I have done military service in the Royal Swedish Navy 1965/70 including a lot of training shooting with various weapons. Objective was to wipe out the enemy soldiers in front of me or to kill a single enemy with a shot between his/her eyes or ... my weapon ... to blow up an enemy ship with a sea mine killing thousands and sinking plenty enemy goods. I loved it!

The targets were always moving ... but not very fast ... but there was no time to correct anything.

So you never had to shoot at fast moving aircraft?  What about your air force?  Did their fast moving jets never shoot at enemy fast moving jets?

Again, getting one moving object to hit another moving target can be tricky, but it isn't impossible.  The math can be quite complicated and the timing must be very precise, but those are things that computers are very good at these days.

Heiwa, I've got a lot of paid holidays due, if I travel to France (never been always wanted to) for a holiday would you be able to put my mind at ease about your ability to pay the prize money?

Could I then share evidence that you are good for it and perhaps we could put together a team to try to win your challenge and split the prize?

Quote from: markjo on October 06, 2016, 09:06:07 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on October 06, 2016, 01:38:36 PM

I have done military service in the Royal Swedish Navy 1965/70 including a lot of training shooting with various weapons. Objective was to wipe out the enemy soldiers in front of me or to kill a single enemy with a shot between his/her eyes or ... my weapon ... to blow up an enemy ship with a sea mine killing thousands and sinking plenty enemy goods. I loved it!

The targets were always moving ... but not very fast ... but there was no time to correct anything.

So you never had to shoot at fast moving aircraft?  What about your air force?  Did their fast moving jets never shoot at enemy fast moving jets?

Again, getting one moving object to hit another moving target can be tricky, but it isn't impossible.  The math can be quite complicated and the timing must be very precise, but those are things that computers are very good at these days.

During the Battle of Britain, WWII, RAF shot down plenty Luftwaffe planes. It all took place at low altitude in the atmosphere.

Here we discuss peaceful, manned space travel - not a war in space - where your spacecraft shall fly from Earth to Moon/Mars and back and you, in order to win my Challenge, shall describe the trajectories and fuel used.

You probably need a computer to do it.

Just get started and do not change topic all the time.

Quote from: disputeone on October 07, 2016, 12:25:32 AM

Heiwa, I've got a lot of paid holidays due, if I travel to France (never been always wanted to) for a holiday would you be able to put my mind at ease about your ability to pay the prize money?

Could I then share evidence that you are good for it and perhaps we could put together a team to try to win your challenge and split the prize?

Just call me and visit my office - full style at my web site. I'll be pleased to meet you.

Quote from: Heiwa on October 07, 2016, 12:31:16 AM

Quote from: disputeone on October 07, 2016, 12:25:32 AM

Heiwa, I've got a lot of paid holidays due, if I travel to France (never been always wanted to) for a holiday would you be able to put my mind at ease about your ability to pay the prize money?

Could I then share evidence that you are good for it and perhaps we could put together a team to try to win your challenge and split the prize?

Just call me and visit my office - full style at my web site. I'll be pleased to meet you.

If I do come to see you will you promise to show me you have a prize fund that you are able to pay the 1 million prize?

Also I want the terms of the competition in writing and signed by you and myself, I am happy to pay for a lawyer to hash out the contract with us.

So, I want a guarantee that you will show me proof of funds and clear concise rules and goalposts to win your challenge before I travel to France.

You can respond here or by PM I would not be leaving Australia until December anyway.

first to calculate using basic astrophysical principles of space navigation and travel the amount of fuel (kg) (or energy (J)) required to complete a manned Moon return trip and a manned planet Mars return trip from being ejected into space from orbit around Earth towards the Moon and/or planet Mars by external combustion chambers (also known as rockets), i.e. two different trips must be described (one to the Moon, one to planet Mars),

second to describe the itenaries incl. departure/arrival dates, spacecraft incl. its masses before/after the various manoeuvers of the trips, any heat shield(s), if fitted, the engines and fuel tanks that can carry the amount of fuel using 1960 or 2016 technology, the accommodation and gear for the persons aboard.

finally/third to show that it is actually feasible to do the trips. Please do not present dreams and fantasies.

You also changed the challenge from a manned trip to the moon to a manned trip to Mars.  Does this mean that you did get a winner for your moon challenge and decided to change the challenge rather than pay out the million that you would otherwise owe someone?

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first to calculate using basic astrophysical principles of space navigation and travel the amount of fuel (kg) (or energy (J)) required to complete a manned Moon return trip and a manned planet Mars return trip from being ejected into space from orbit around Earth towards the Moon and/or planet Mars by external combustion chambers (also known as rockets), i.e. two different trips must be described (one to the Moon, one to planet Mars),

second to describe the itenaries incl. departure/arrival dates, spacecraft incl. its masses before/after the various manoeuvers of the trips, any heat shield(s), if fitted, the engines and fuel tanks that can carry the amount of fuel using 1960 or 2016 technology, the accommodation and gear for the persons aboard.

These two are relatively simple.

This is the clause I have a problem with and will not be in our legally binding contract.

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finally/third to show that it is actually feasible to do the trips. Please do not present dreams and fantasies.

I don't know about French law but in Australia this is obviously a clause to let you be within your rights to refuse to pay a winner of your challenge, this cannot be included, I am sure the lawyer writing our contract will agree with me here.

Suggest you also consider the return and landing to Earth, i.e. re-entry! Plenty people, i.e. ex-astronuts say they have done it ... but none has managed to explain how it was done.