I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge

Well, to make it simple, if you can explain how to travel to the Moon and back, I'll pay you €1M. Dr. Buzz who did it 1969 is still alive. Ask him! Aha, all was automatic using fantastic computers. Buzz with his fake MIT doctorate is just a silly joke.

You missed the point. No one can ever win your "challenge" because you change the requirements whenever you're given the factual and scientific answer/data. It's pretty clear as night and day. See for yourself:

say something new.
anything.
be less boring.
quit bumping this stupid shit.

say something new.
anything.
be less boring.
quit bumping this stupid shit.

Isn't going to the Moon fantastic? Some clowns say they have done it 1969, and what was the result? They found nothing on the Moon of value. If you ask them how they did it, they answer it was all automatic by computers, and they just were passengers aboard. Even if I pay anyone €1M how to do it, there are no takers. Reason? Think!

Quote from: Themightykabool on January 17, 2022, 11:04:07 PM

say something new.
anything.
be less boring.
quit bumping this stupid shit.

Isn't going to the Moon fantastic? Some clowns say they have done it 1969, and what was the result? They found nothing on the Moon of value. If you ask them how they did it, they answer it was all automatic by computers, and they just were passengers aboard. Even if I pay anyone €1M how to do it, there are no takers. Reason? Think!

Plenty of people have shown you the data and facts as to how it was done. You just simply reject the evidence and then change your "challenge".

Going all the way back to 2012, you were shown repeatedly how your calculations/assumptions/arguments were flat out wrong. Yet you still wouldn't pay.

https://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0

Quote from: Heiwa on January 18, 2022, 09:07:02 AM

Quote from: Themightykabool on January 17, 2022, 11:04:07 PM

say something new.
anything.
be less boring.
quit bumping this stupid shit.

Isn't going to the Moon fantastic? Some clowns say they have done it 1969, and what was the result? They found nothing on the Moon of value. If you ask them how they did it, they answer it was all automatic by computers, and they just were passengers aboard. Even if I pay anyone €1M how to do it, there are no takers. Reason? Think!

Plenty of people have shown you the data and facts as to how it was done. You just simply reject the evidence and then change your "challenge".

Going all the way back to 2012, you were shown repeatedly how your calculations/assumptions/arguments were flat out wrong. Yet you still wouldn't pay.

https://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0

To be fair to Heiwa, he has no money to pay. He never did. The guy can barely afford instant coffee in his decades outdated kitchen

Quote from: Stash on January 18, 2022, 09:31:07 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 18, 2022, 09:07:02 AM

Quote from: Themightykabool on January 17, 2022, 11:04:07 PM

say something new.
anything.
be less boring.
quit bumping this stupid shit.

Isn't going to the Moon fantastic? Some clowns say they have done it 1969, and what was the result? They found nothing on the Moon of value. If you ask them how they did it, they answer it was all automatic by computers, and they just were passengers aboard. Even if I pay anyone €1M how to do it, there are no takers. Reason? Think!

Plenty of people have shown you the data and facts as to how it was done. You just simply reject the evidence and then change your "challenge".

Going all the way back to 2012, you were shown repeatedly how your calculations/assumptions/arguments were flat out wrong. Yet you still wouldn't pay.

https://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0

To be fair to Heiwa, he has no money to pay. He never did. The guy can barely afford instant coffee in his decades outdated kitchen

Yeah, Beatrice at his bank, the contact he gave us, said he didn't have the money to payout his "challenges". So yeah, everyone knows there's no "prize".

Quote from: Heiwa on January 18, 2022, 09:07:02 AM

Quote from: Themightykabool on January 17, 2022, 11:04:07 PM

say something new.
anything.
be less boring.
quit bumping this stupid shit.

Isn't going to the Moon fantastic? Some clowns say they have done it 1969, and what was the result? They found nothing on the Moon of value. If you ask them how they did it, they answer it was all automatic by computers, and they just were passengers aboard. Even if I pay anyone €1M how to do it, there are no takers. Reason? Think!

Plenty of people have shown you the data and facts as to how it was done. You just simply reject the evidence and then change your "challenge".

Going all the way back to 2012, you were shown repeatedly how your calculations/assumptions/arguments were flat out wrong. Yet you still wouldn't pay.

https://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0

Nobody has made a proper application to win my Challenge about a trip to the Moon (or Mars or an assteroid).

Quote from: Stash on January 18, 2022, 09:31:07 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 18, 2022, 09:07:02 AM

Quote from: Themightykabool on January 17, 2022, 11:04:07 PM

say something new.
anything.
be less boring.
quit bumping this stupid shit.

Isn't going to the Moon fantastic? Some clowns say they have done it 1969, and what was the result? They found nothing on the Moon of value. If you ask them how they did it, they answer it was all automatic by computers, and they just were passengers aboard. Even if I pay anyone €1M how to do it, there are no takers. Reason? Think!

Plenty of people have shown you the data and facts as to how it was done. You just simply reject the evidence and then change your "challenge".

Going all the way back to 2012, you were shown repeatedly how your calculations/assumptions/arguments were flat out wrong. Yet you still wouldn't pay.

https://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0

Nobody has made a proper application to win my Challenge about a trip to the Moon (or Mars or an assteroid).

Sure they have. You just change the challenge. And you couldn't even do the most basic calculations right as evidenced here:

https://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0

Heiwa's so old and in poor health with covid breathing down his neck so he probably won't see out the rest of this year. Meh, let him think he has won

Heiwa's so old and in poor health with covid breathing down his neck so he probably won't see out the rest of this year. Meh, let him think he has won

You sound like a loser making/faking up things. I am in perfect shape and immune against covid due to good food, physical training and acupuncture. The convid vaxx being spread is just making people stupid.

Quote from: Shifter on January 18, 2022, 10:21:14 PM

Heiwa's so old and in poor health with covid breathing down his neck so he probably won't see out the rest of this year. Meh, let him think he has won

I am in perfect shape and immune against covid due to good food, physical training and acupuncture. The convid vaxx being spread is just making people stupid.

Said every muppet on sorryantivaxxer.com and the Hermain Cain awards hahahaha

Was 'nice' knowing you anyways

Quote from: Heiwa on January 18, 2022, 11:04:59 PM

Quote from: Shifter on January 18, 2022, 10:21:14 PM

Heiwa's so old and in poor health with covid breathing down his neck so he probably won't see out the rest of this year. Meh, let him think he has won

I am in perfect shape and immune against covid due to good food, physical training and acupuncture. The convid vaxx being spread is just making people stupid.

Said every muppet on sorryantivaxxer.com and the Hermain Cain awards hahahaha

Was 'nice' knowing you anyways

Vaxxinated losers are sad to watch.

Please note that ESA/NASA "trim flaps" (https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20190028877/downloads/20190028877.pdf  ) are not allowed on spacecrafts trying to win my Challenge.

The challenge used to be about whether it's simply  possible

Soon you'll say 'Please note that engines that utilise combustion are not allowed on spacecrafts trying to win my Challenge'

No money, no "challenge". Beatrice at your bank already told us you don't have the money. So no one cares. Not to mention your tried and true:

Trim flaps are not allowed because they are a space joke. And Beatrice speaks the truth. There is no money in her bank. My money is invested elsewhere.

The challenge used to be about whether it's simply  possible

Soon you'll say 'Please note that engines that utilise combustion are not allowed on spacecrafts trying to win my Challenge'

Welcome back. Now we discuss the "trim flaps" ESA/NASA is using to fly to L2. They are not allowed by me and my Challenge. Trim flaps are only used by fake spacecraft.

Trim flaps are not allowed because they are a space joke.

I suppose you think this is evidence. Well done. Why would anyone take your word for anything when you're perpetually unable to back it up? Keep trolling.

And Beatrice speaks the truth. There is no money in her bank. My money is invested elsewhere.

She said you never had the money. It's odd that you would tell us to contact her if she was just going to say you ain't got no 5 mill. So many lies Heiwa. So many, it's hard to keep track of where your reality ends and your delusions begin.

shows that a "Trim flap" is used to steer the ESA/NASA space craft from Earth to the Lagrange#2 point in space. I think "trim flaps" are useless in space but ESA/NASA think otherwise.

shows that a "Trim flap" is used to steer the ESA/NASA space craft from Earth to the Lagrange#2 point in space. I think "trim flaps" are useless in space but ESA/NASA think otherwise.

Yes. They do think otherwise. No one cares what you think.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 29, 2022, 02:56:49 AM

shows that a "Trim flap" is used to steer the ESA/NASA space craft from Earth to the Lagrange#2 point in space. I think "trim flaps" are useless in space but ESA/NASA think otherwise.

Yes. They do think otherwise. No one cares what you think.

According ESA/NASA a trim flap helps stabilize the JWST spacecraft  and its ISIM module with the telescope at L2. It seems the spacecraft is unstable at L2 and a trim flap is required. But nobody at ESA/NASA can explain how the trim flap stabilizes anything anywhere. Then there is a five layers shield from the light and heat of the Earth. So planet Earth ejects light and heat that the JWST spacecraft must be protected from. But Earth is pretty far away can hardly be seen at L2. I must agree I don't understand what ESA/NASA worry about. Light from Earth? And heat?

Then there is a five layers shield from the light and heat of the Earth. So planet Earth ejects light and heat that the JWST spacecraft must be protected from. But Earth is pretty far away can hardly be seen at L2. I must agree I don't understand what ESA/NASA worry about. Light from Earth? And heat?

Yes, it's quite obvious that you don't understand much of anything.  I'm pretty sure that ESA/NASA are more concerned about protecting JWST from the light and heat coming from the sun than from the dark side of the earth.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 29, 2022, 06:58:31 AM

Then there is a five layers shield from the light and heat of the Earth. So planet Earth ejects light and heat that the JWST spacecraft must be protected from. But Earth is pretty far away can hardly be seen at L2. I must agree I don't understand what ESA/NASA worry about. Light from Earth? And heat?

Yes, it's quite obvious that you don't understand much of anything.  I'm pretty sure that ESA/NASA are more concerned about protecting JWST from the light and heat coming from the sun than from the dark side of the earth.

But ESA/NASA just told me that the the trim flap is fitted to protect the telescope from light and heat of planet Earth.

But ESA/NASA just told me that the the trim flap is fitted to protect the telescope from light and heat of planet Earth.

No, they didn't.  They told you that the 5 layer sun shield is fitted to protect the telescope from the light and heat of the sun and earth and that the trim flap (also called the momentum flap) is to balance the solar pressure on the sun shield.  You just didn't understand it, like you don't understand much of anything else that anyone tells you.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 29, 2022, 09:39:58 AM

But ESA/NASA just told me that the the trim flap is fitted to protect the telescope from light and heat of planet Earth.

No, they didn't.  They told you that the 5 layer sun shield is fitted to protect the telescope from the light and heat of the sun and earth and that the trim flap (also called the momentum flap) is to balance the solar pressure on the sun shield.  You just didn't understand it, like you don't understand much of anything else that anyone tells you.

Aha, the trim flap is now a momentum flap to balance the solar pressure on the spacecraft. Is there any peer reviewed evidence of that?

Quote from: markjo on January 29, 2022, 09:48:42 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 29, 2022, 09:39:58 AM

But ESA/NASA just told me that the the trim flap is fitted to protect the telescope from light and heat of planet Earth.

No, they didn't.  They told you that the 5 layer sun shield is fitted to protect the telescope from the light and heat of the sun and earth and that the trim flap (also called the momentum flap) is to balance the solar pressure on the sun shield.  You just didn't understand it, like you don't understand much of anything else that anyone tells you.

Aha, the trim flap is now a momentum flap to balance the solar pressure on the spacecraft. Is there any peer reviewed evidence of that?

Yes. Let us know when you've completed your review:

[1] S. Yoon, "Orbit Determinaton for the James Webb Space Telescope," in 24th International Symposium on Space Flight Dynamics, Laurel MD, 2014.
[2] NASA, "James Webb Space Telescope," NASA, [Online]. Available: jwst.nasa.gov. [Accessed 10 Mar 2014].
[3] J. Mather, "The James Webb Space Telescope and Future IR Space Telescopes," in Space 2004 Conference and Exhibit, San Diego CA, 2004.
[4] D. Dunham and R. Farquhar, "Libration Point Missions, 1978-2002," in 7th International Conference on Libration Point Orbits and Their Applications, Parador d'Aiguablava, Girona, Spain, 2002.
[5] J. Danby, Fundamentals of Celestial Mechanics, Richmond VA: Willmann-Bell, 1998.
[6] R. Henry, W. Kinzel and M. Jordan, "JWST Scheduling with SODRM 2012, Preesnted to the JWST AWG," Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore MD, 2014.
[7] W. Kinzel, "JWST Angular Momentum Management with Pass 1 and 2 Torque Tables," Space Telescopt Science Institute, Baltimore MD, 2007.
[8] Space Telescope Science Institute, "James Webb Space Telescope Field-of-Regard and Sky Coverage," 2014. [Online]. Available: http://www.stsci.edu/jwst/overview/design/field-of-regard. [Accessed 20 March 2014].
[9] C. Roberts, "Long Term Missions at the Sun-Earth Libration Point L1: ACE, SOHO and WIND," in AAS Astrodynamics Specialist Conference, 2011.
[10] K. Howell and H. Pernicka, "Stationkeeping Method for Libration Point Trajectories," J. Guidance, Control and Dynamics, vol. 16, no. 1, pp. 151-159, 1993. 19
[11] T. Pavlak and K. Howell, "Strategy for Optimal, Long-Term Stationkeeping of Libration Point Orbits in the Earth-Moon System," in AIAA/AAS Astrodynamics Specialist Conference, Minneapolis MN, 2012.
[12] D. Folta, T. Pavlak, A. Haapala and K. Howell, "Earth-Moon Libration Point Stationkeeping: Theory, Modeling and Operations," in 1st IAA/AAS Conference on the Dynamics and Control of Space Systems, Porto, Portugal, 2012.
[13] M. Beckman and A. Delion, "James Webb Telescope Stationkeeping Analysis," in AGI User's Conference, 2003.
[14] L. Janes and M. Beckman, "Optimizing Stationkeeping Maneuvers for James Webb Space Telescope," in NASA Goddard Flight Mechanics Symposium, 2006.
[15] M. Hechler and J. Cobos, "Herschel, Planck and GAIA Orbit Design," in 7th International Conference on Libration Point Orbits and Their Applications, Parador d'Aiguablava, Girona, Spain, 2002.
[16] C. Schiff, "James Webb Space Telescope Mission Critical Design Review [Powerpoint charts]," 2006.
[17] D. Gidanian, "JWST Solar Torque Modeling," Northrop Grumman Aerospace Systems, Redondo Beach CA, 2008.
[18] D. Dichmann, C. Alberding and K. Richon, "JWST Stationkeeping Analysis: Monte Carlo Simulation Results," in JWST Analysis Working Group, Apr 2013, 2013.
[19] T. Johnson and V. Coppola, "Solar Radiation Pressue Plugins," Analytical Graphics Inc., 2010.
[20] D. Folta, Interviewee, Personal communication on MAVEN mission. [Interview]. Mar 2013.
[21] C. Schiff and E. Dove, "Monte Carlo Simulatons of the Formation Flying Dynamics for the Magnetospheric Multiscale (MMS) Mission," in TBD, TBD, TBD.
[22] D. Dichmann, C. Alberding and K. Richon, "JWST Stationkeeping Analysis: Monte Carlo Simulation Results," in JWST Spacecraft Critical Design Review, 2014.
[23] K. Gordon, "James Webb Space Telescope Mission Science and Operations Center: Science Operations Design Reference Mission Revision C," Space Telescope Science Institute, 2012.
[24] M. Ziebart, "High Precision Analytical Solar Radiaton Pressure Modelling for GNSS Spacecraft," Ph.D. Dissertation, University of East London, London, 2001. 20 Appendix. Solar Pressure and Atmospheric Drag (SPAD) Modeling for JWST The SPAD tool was developed at NASA Goddard to compute SRP and

Quote from: Heiwa on January 29, 2022, 09:58:21 AM

Quote from: markjo on January 29, 2022, 09:48:42 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 29, 2022, 09:39:58 AM

But ESA/NASA just told me that the the trim flap is fitted to protect the telescope from light and heat of planet Earth.

No, they didn't.  They told you that the 5 layer sun shield is fitted to protect the telescope from the light and heat of the sun and earth and that the trim flap (also called the momentum flap) is to balance the solar pressure on the sun shield.  You just didn't understand it, like you don't understand much of anything else that anyone tells you.

Aha, the trim flap is now a momentum flap to balance the solar pressure on the spacecraft. Is there any peer reviewed evidence of that?

Yes. Let us know when you've completed your review:

[1] S. Yoon, "Orbit Determinaton for the James Webb Space Telescope," in 24th International Symposium on Space Flight Dynamics, Laurel MD, 2014.
[2] NASA, "James Webb Space Telescope," NASA, [Online]. Available: jwst.nasa.gov. [Accessed 10 Mar 2014].
[3] J. Mather, "The James Webb Space Telescope and Future IR Space Telescopes," in Space 2004 Conference and Exhibit, San Diego CA, 2004.
[4] D. Dunham and R. Farquhar, "Libration Point Missions, 1978-2002," in 7th International Conference on Libration Point Orbits and Their Applications, Parador d'Aiguablava, Girona, Spain, 2002.
[5] J. Danby, Fundamentals of Celestial Mechanics, Richmond VA: Willmann-Bell, 1998.
[6] R. Henry, W. Kinzel and M. Jordan, "JWST Scheduling with SODRM 2012, Preesnted to the JWST AWG," Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore MD, 2014.
[7] W. Kinzel, "JWST Angular Momentum Management with Pass 1 and 2 Torque Tables," Space Telescopt Science Institute, Baltimore MD, 2007.
[8] Space Telescope Science Institute, "James Webb Space Telescope Field-of-Regard and Sky Coverage," 2014. [Online]. Available: http://www.stsci.edu/jwst/overview/design/field-of-regard. [Accessed 20 March 2014].
[9] C. Roberts, "Long Term Missions at the Sun-Earth Libration Point L1: ACE, SOHO and WIND," in AAS Astrodynamics Specialist Conference, 2011.
[10] K. Howell and H. Pernicka, "Stationkeeping Method for Libration Point Trajectories," J. Guidance, Control and Dynamics, vol. 16, no. 1, pp. 151-159, 1993. 19
[11] T. Pavlak and K. Howell, "Strategy for Optimal, Long-Term Stationkeeping of Libration Point Orbits in the Earth-Moon System," in AIAA/AAS Astrodynamics Specialist Conference, Minneapolis MN, 2012.
[12] D. Folta, T. Pavlak, A. Haapala and K. Howell, "Earth-Moon Libration Point Stationkeeping: Theory, Modeling and Operations," in 1st IAA/AAS Conference on the Dynamics and Control of Space Systems, Porto, Portugal, 2012.
[13] M. Beckman and A. Delion, "James Webb Telescope Stationkeeping Analysis," in AGI User's Conference, 2003.
[14] L. Janes and M. Beckman, "Optimizing Stationkeeping Maneuvers for James Webb Space Telescope," in NASA Goddard Flight Mechanics Symposium, 2006.
[15] M. Hechler and J. Cobos, "Herschel, Planck and GAIA Orbit Design," in 7th International Conference on Libration Point Orbits and Their Applications, Parador d'Aiguablava, Girona, Spain, 2002.
[16] C. Schiff, "James Webb Space Telescope Mission Critical Design Review [Powerpoint charts]," 2006.
[17] D. Gidanian, "JWST Solar Torque Modeling," Northrop Grumman Aerospace Systems, Redondo Beach CA, 2008.
[18] D. Dichmann, C. Alberding and K. Richon, "JWST Stationkeeping Analysis: Monte Carlo Simulation Results," in JWST Analysis Working Group, Apr 2013, 2013.
[19] T. Johnson and V. Coppola, "Solar Radiation Pressue Plugins," Analytical Graphics Inc., 2010.
[20] D. Folta, Interviewee, Personal communication on MAVEN mission. [Interview]. Mar 2013.
[21] C. Schiff and E. Dove, "Monte Carlo Simulatons of the Formation Flying Dynamics for the Magnetospheric Multiscale (MMS) Mission," in TBD, TBD, TBD.
[22] D. Dichmann, C. Alberding and K. Richon, "JWST Stationkeeping Analysis: Monte Carlo Simulation Results," in JWST Spacecraft Critical Design Review, 2014.
[23] K. Gordon, "James Webb Space Telescope Mission Science and Operations Center: Science Operations Design Reference Mission Revision C," Space Telescope Science Institute, 2012.
[24] M. Ziebart, "High Precision Analytical Solar Radiaton Pressure Modelling for GNSS Spacecraft," Ph.D. Dissertation, University of East London, London, 2001. 20 Appendix. Solar Pressure and Atmospheric Drag (SPAD) Modeling for JWST The SPAD tool was developed at NASA Goddard to compute SRP and

But the trim flap doesn't solve the the momentum problem.

Quote from: Stash on January 29, 2022, 12:18:00 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 29, 2022, 09:58:21 AM

Quote from: markjo on January 29, 2022, 09:48:42 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 29, 2022, 09:39:58 AM

But ESA/NASA just told me that the the trim flap is fitted to protect the telescope from light and heat of planet Earth.

No, they didn't.  They told you that the 5 layer sun shield is fitted to protect the telescope from the light and heat of the sun and earth and that the trim flap (also called the momentum flap) is to balance the solar pressure on the sun shield.  You just didn't understand it, like you don't understand much of anything else that anyone tells you.

Aha, the trim flap is now a momentum flap to balance the solar pressure on the spacecraft. Is there any peer reviewed evidence of that?

Yes. Let us know when you've completed your review:

[1] S. Yoon, "Orbit Determinaton for the James Webb Space Telescope," in 24th International Symposium on Space Flight Dynamics, Laurel MD, 2014.
[2] NASA, "James Webb Space Telescope," NASA, [Online]. Available: jwst.nasa.gov. [Accessed 10 Mar 2014].
[3] J. Mather, "The James Webb Space Telescope and Future IR Space Telescopes," in Space 2004 Conference and Exhibit, San Diego CA, 2004.
[4] D. Dunham and R. Farquhar, "Libration Point Missions, 1978-2002," in 7th International Conference on Libration Point Orbits and Their Applications, Parador d'Aiguablava, Girona, Spain, 2002.
[5] J. Danby, Fundamentals of Celestial Mechanics, Richmond VA: Willmann-Bell, 1998.
[6] R. Henry, W. Kinzel and M. Jordan, "JWST Scheduling with SODRM 2012, Preesnted to the JWST AWG," Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore MD, 2014.
[7] W. Kinzel, "JWST Angular Momentum Management with Pass 1 and 2 Torque Tables," Space Telescopt Science Institute, Baltimore MD, 2007.
[8] Space Telescope Science Institute, "James Webb Space Telescope Field-of-Regard and Sky Coverage," 2014. [Online]. Available: http://www.stsci.edu/jwst/overview/design/field-of-regard. [Accessed 20 March 2014].
[9] C. Roberts, "Long Term Missions at the Sun-Earth Libration Point L1: ACE, SOHO and WIND," in AAS Astrodynamics Specialist Conference, 2011.
[10] K. Howell and H. Pernicka, "Stationkeeping Method for Libration Point Trajectories," J. Guidance, Control and Dynamics, vol. 16, no. 1, pp. 151-159, 1993. 19
[11] T. Pavlak and K. Howell, "Strategy for Optimal, Long-Term Stationkeeping of Libration Point Orbits in the Earth-Moon System," in AIAA/AAS Astrodynamics Specialist Conference, Minneapolis MN, 2012.
[12] D. Folta, T. Pavlak, A. Haapala and K. Howell, "Earth-Moon Libration Point Stationkeeping: Theory, Modeling and Operations," in 1st IAA/AAS Conference on the Dynamics and Control of Space Systems, Porto, Portugal, 2012.
[13] M. Beckman and A. Delion, "James Webb Telescope Stationkeeping Analysis," in AGI User's Conference, 2003.
[14] L. Janes and M. Beckman, "Optimizing Stationkeeping Maneuvers for James Webb Space Telescope," in NASA Goddard Flight Mechanics Symposium, 2006.
[15] M. Hechler and J. Cobos, "Herschel, Planck and GAIA Orbit Design," in 7th International Conference on Libration Point Orbits and Their Applications, Parador d'Aiguablava, Girona, Spain, 2002.
[16] C. Schiff, "James Webb Space Telescope Mission Critical Design Review [Powerpoint charts]," 2006.
[17] D. Gidanian, "JWST Solar Torque Modeling," Northrop Grumman Aerospace Systems, Redondo Beach CA, 2008.
[18] D. Dichmann, C. Alberding and K. Richon, "JWST Stationkeeping Analysis: Monte Carlo Simulation Results," in JWST Analysis Working Group, Apr 2013, 2013.
[19] T. Johnson and V. Coppola, "Solar Radiation Pressue Plugins," Analytical Graphics Inc., 2010.
[20] D. Folta, Interviewee, Personal communication on MAVEN mission. [Interview]. Mar 2013.
[21] C. Schiff and E. Dove, "Monte Carlo Simulatons of the Formation Flying Dynamics for the Magnetospheric Multiscale (MMS) Mission," in TBD, TBD, TBD.
[22] D. Dichmann, C. Alberding and K. Richon, "JWST Stationkeeping Analysis: Monte Carlo Simulation Results," in JWST Spacecraft Critical Design Review, 2014.
[23] K. Gordon, "James Webb Space Telescope Mission Science and Operations Center: Science Operations Design Reference Mission Revision C," Space Telescope Science Institute, 2012.
[24] M. Ziebart, "High Precision Analytical Solar Radiaton Pressure Modelling for GNSS Spacecraft," Ph.D. Dissertation, University of East London, London, 2001. 20 Appendix. Solar Pressure and Atmospheric Drag (SPAD) Modeling for JWST The SPAD tool was developed at NASA Goddard to compute SRP and

But the trim flap doesn't solve the the momentum problem.

Start reading. You might actually learn something for a change.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 29, 2022, 05:09:32 PM

Quote from: Stash on January 29, 2022, 12:18:00 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 29, 2022, 09:58:21 AM

Quote from: markjo on January 29, 2022, 09:48:42 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 29, 2022, 09:39:58 AM

But ESA/NASA just told me that the the trim flap is fitted to protect the telescope from light and heat of planet Earth.

No, they didn't.  They told you that the 5 layer sun shield is fitted to protect the telescope from the light and heat of the sun and earth and that the trim flap (also called the momentum flap) is to balance the solar pressure on the sun shield.  You just didn't understand it, like you don't understand much of anything else that anyone tells you.

Aha, the trim flap is now a momentum flap to balance the solar pressure on the spacecraft. Is there any peer reviewed evidence of that?

Yes. Let us know when you've completed your review:

[1] S. Yoon, "Orbit Determinaton for the James Webb Space Telescope," in 24th International Symposium on Space Flight Dynamics, Laurel MD, 2014.
[2] NASA, "James Webb Space Telescope," NASA, [Online]. Available: jwst.nasa.gov. [Accessed 10 Mar 2014].
[3] J. Mather, "The James Webb Space Telescope and Future IR Space Telescopes," in Space 2004 Conference and Exhibit, San Diego CA, 2004.
[4] D. Dunham and R. Farquhar, "Libration Point Missions, 1978-2002," in 7th International Conference on Libration Point Orbits and Their Applications, Parador d'Aiguablava, Girona, Spain, 2002.
[5] J. Danby, Fundamentals of Celestial Mechanics, Richmond VA: Willmann-Bell, 1998.
[6] R. Henry, W. Kinzel and M. Jordan, "JWST Scheduling with SODRM 2012, Preesnted to the JWST AWG," Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore MD, 2014.
[7] W. Kinzel, "JWST Angular Momentum Management with Pass 1 and 2 Torque Tables," Space Telescopt Science Institute, Baltimore MD, 2007.
[8] Space Telescope Science Institute, "James Webb Space Telescope Field-of-Regard and Sky Coverage," 2014. [Online]. Available: http://www.stsci.edu/jwst/overview/design/field-of-regard. [Accessed 20 March 2014].
[9] C. Roberts, "Long Term Missions at the Sun-Earth Libration Point L1: ACE, SOHO and WIND," in AAS Astrodynamics Specialist Conference, 2011.
[10] K. Howell and H. Pernicka, "Stationkeeping Method for Libration Point Trajectories," J. Guidance, Control and Dynamics, vol. 16, no. 1, pp. 151-159, 1993. 19
[11] T. Pavlak and K. Howell, "Strategy for Optimal, Long-Term Stationkeeping of Libration Point Orbits in the Earth-Moon System," in AIAA/AAS Astrodynamics Specialist Conference, Minneapolis MN, 2012.
[12] D. Folta, T. Pavlak, A. Haapala and K. Howell, "Earth-Moon Libration Point Stationkeeping: Theory, Modeling and Operations," in 1st IAA/AAS Conference on the Dynamics and Control of Space Systems, Porto, Portugal, 2012.
[13] M. Beckman and A. Delion, "James Webb Telescope Stationkeeping Analysis," in AGI User's Conference, 2003.
[14] L. Janes and M. Beckman, "Optimizing Stationkeeping Maneuvers for James Webb Space Telescope," in NASA Goddard Flight Mechanics Symposium, 2006.
[15] M. Hechler and J. Cobos, "Herschel, Planck and GAIA Orbit Design," in 7th International Conference on Libration Point Orbits and Their Applications, Parador d'Aiguablava, Girona, Spain, 2002.
[16] C. Schiff, "James Webb Space Telescope Mission Critical Design Review [Powerpoint charts]," 2006.
[17] D. Gidanian, "JWST Solar Torque Modeling," Northrop Grumman Aerospace Systems, Redondo Beach CA, 2008.
[18] D. Dichmann, C. Alberding and K. Richon, "JWST Stationkeeping Analysis: Monte Carlo Simulation Results," in JWST Analysis Working Group, Apr 2013, 2013.
[19] T. Johnson and V. Coppola, "Solar Radiation Pressue Plugins," Analytical Graphics Inc., 2010.
[20] D. Folta, Interviewee, Personal communication on MAVEN mission. [Interview]. Mar 2013.
[21] C. Schiff and E. Dove, "Monte Carlo Simulatons of the Formation Flying Dynamics for the Magnetospheric Multiscale (MMS) Mission," in TBD, TBD, TBD.
[22] D. Dichmann, C. Alberding and K. Richon, "JWST Stationkeeping Analysis: Monte Carlo Simulation Results," in JWST Spacecraft Critical Design Review, 2014.
[23] K. Gordon, "James Webb Space Telescope Mission Science and Operations Center: Science Operations Design Reference Mission Revision C," Space Telescope Science Institute, 2012.
[24] M. Ziebart, "High Precision Analytical Solar Radiaton Pressure Modelling for GNSS Spacecraft," Ph.D. Dissertation, University of East London, London, 2001. 20 Appendix. Solar Pressure and Atmospheric Drag (SPAD) Modeling for JWST The SPAD tool was developed at NASA Goddard to compute SRP and

But the trim flap doesn't solve the the momentum problem.

Start reading. You might actually learn something for a change.

OK - I started with [8] and it had been retracted. Probably usual garbage.

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But ESA/NASA just told me that the the trim flap is fitted to protect the telescope from light and heat of planet Earth.

No, they didn't.  They told you that the 5 layer sun shield is fitted to protect the telescope from the light and heat of the sun and earth and that the trim flap (also called the momentum flap) is to balance the solar pressure on the sun shield.  You just didn't understand it, like you don't understand much of anything else that anyone tells you.

Aha, the trim flap is now a momentum flap to balance the solar pressure on the spacecraft. Is there any peer reviewed evidence of that?

Yes. Let us know when you've completed your review:

[1] S. Yoon, "Orbit Determinaton for the James Webb Space Telescope," in 24th International Symposium on Space Flight Dynamics, Laurel MD, 2014.
[2] NASA, "James Webb Space Telescope," NASA, [Online]. Available: jwst.nasa.gov. [Accessed 10 Mar 2014].
[3] J. Mather, "The James Webb Space Telescope and Future IR Space Telescopes," in Space 2004 Conference and Exhibit, San Diego CA, 2004.
[4] D. Dunham and R. Farquhar, "Libration Point Missions, 1978-2002," in 7th International Conference on Libration Point Orbits and Their Applications, Parador d'Aiguablava, Girona, Spain, 2002.
[5] J. Danby, Fundamentals of Celestial Mechanics, Richmond VA: Willmann-Bell, 1998.
[6] R. Henry, W. Kinzel and M. Jordan, "JWST Scheduling with SODRM 2012, Preesnted to the JWST AWG," Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore MD, 2014.
[7] W. Kinzel, "JWST Angular Momentum Management with Pass 1 and 2 Torque Tables," Space Telescopt Science Institute, Baltimore MD, 2007.
[8] Space Telescope Science Institute, "James Webb Space Telescope Field-of-Regard and Sky Coverage," 2014. [Online]. Available: http://www.stsci.edu/jwst/overview/design/field-of-regard. [Accessed 20 March 2014].
[9] C. Roberts, "Long Term Missions at the Sun-Earth Libration Point L1: ACE, SOHO and WIND," in AAS Astrodynamics Specialist Conference, 2011.
[10] K. Howell and H. Pernicka, "Stationkeeping Method for Libration Point Trajectories," J. Guidance, Control and Dynamics, vol. 16, no. 1, pp. 151-159, 1993. 19
[11] T. Pavlak and K. Howell, "Strategy for Optimal, Long-Term Stationkeeping of Libration Point Orbits in the Earth-Moon System," in AIAA/AAS Astrodynamics Specialist Conference, Minneapolis MN, 2012.
[12] D. Folta, T. Pavlak, A. Haapala and K. Howell, "Earth-Moon Libration Point Stationkeeping: Theory, Modeling and Operations," in 1st IAA/AAS Conference on the Dynamics and Control of Space Systems, Porto, Portugal, 2012.
[13] M. Beckman and A. Delion, "James Webb Telescope Stationkeeping Analysis," in AGI User's Conference, 2003.
[14] L. Janes and M. Beckman, "Optimizing Stationkeeping Maneuvers for James Webb Space Telescope," in NASA Goddard Flight Mechanics Symposium, 2006.
[15] M. Hechler and J. Cobos, "Herschel, Planck and GAIA Orbit Design," in 7th International Conference on Libration Point Orbits and Their Applications, Parador d'Aiguablava, Girona, Spain, 2002.
[16] C. Schiff, "James Webb Space Telescope Mission Critical Design Review [Powerpoint charts]," 2006.
[17] D. Gidanian, "JWST Solar Torque Modeling," Northrop Grumman Aerospace Systems, Redondo Beach CA, 2008.
[18] D. Dichmann, C. Alberding and K. Richon, "JWST Stationkeeping Analysis: Monte Carlo Simulation Results," in JWST Analysis Working Group, Apr 2013, 2013.
[19] T. Johnson and V. Coppola, "Solar Radiation Pressue Plugins," Analytical Graphics Inc., 2010.
[20] D. Folta, Interviewee, Personal communication on MAVEN mission. [Interview]. Mar 2013.
[21] C. Schiff and E. Dove, "Monte Carlo Simulatons of the Formation Flying Dynamics for the Magnetospheric Multiscale (MMS) Mission," in TBD, TBD, TBD.
[22] D. Dichmann, C. Alberding and K. Richon, "JWST Stationkeeping Analysis: Monte Carlo Simulation Results," in JWST Spacecraft Critical Design Review, 2014.
[23] K. Gordon, "James Webb Space Telescope Mission Science and Operations Center: Science Operations Design Reference Mission Revision C," Space Telescope Science Institute, 2012.
[24] M. Ziebart, "High Precision Analytical Solar Radiaton Pressure Modelling for GNSS Spacecraft," Ph.D. Dissertation, University of East London, London, 2001. 20 Appendix. Solar Pressure and Atmospheric Drag (SPAD) Modeling for JWST The SPAD tool was developed at NASA Goddard to compute SRP and

But the trim flap doesn't solve the the momentum problem.

Start reading. You might actually learn something for a change.

OK - I started with [8] and it had been retracted. Probably usual garbage.

Cool. 23 more to go so you best get reading.