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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #13560 on: August 04, 2021, 10:47:02 PM »
Maybe you could answer the question here and now for reply #13561

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« Reply #13561 on: August 05, 2021, 09:48:56 AM »
Maybe you could answer the question here and now for reply #13561
You are light years off topic but why not? Anti-matter is not good fuel for space crafts exploring the Universe. The anti-matter fuel simply reacts with the other fuel and .... BOUM ... end of trip.

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« Reply #13562 on: August 05, 2021, 03:53:37 PM »
Maybe you could answer the question here and now for reply #13561
You are light years off topic but why not? Anti-matter is not good fuel for space crafts exploring the Universe. The anti-matter fuel simply reacts with the other fuel and .... BOUM ... end of trip.

Antimatter reacting with matter is kind of the point ::)

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« Reply #13563 on: August 06, 2021, 02:12:24 AM »
Maybe you could answer the question here and now for reply #13561
You are light years off topic but why not? Anti-matter is not good fuel for space crafts exploring the Universe. The anti-matter fuel simply reacts with the other fuel and .... BOUM ... end of trip.

Antimatter reacting with matter is kind of the point ::)

Yes, I understand. If you think anti-matter fuel will take you to the Moon, I look forward to it. BTW, when on the Moon, what shall you do there?

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« Reply #13564 on: August 06, 2021, 02:41:23 AM »
BTW, when on the Moon, what shall you do there?

Take a selfie, obviously.

What do people do when they get to the summit of Everest? Not a whole lot. Pretty much hang for a few minutes, take in the view, relish in the accomplishment, take some photos, and get the hell back down to camp. Pretty much what astronauts did, though they also did some sciency stuff.

So what's your point? Why venture to the North or south poles? Why climb mountains? Why run a marathon? People do lots of stuff just to accomplish doing stuff. Doing it just to be able to have done it. Doing something that has never been done. Or doing something faster, better, more efficiently. Part of what makes up innovation. Are you anti-innovation? Why design your egg hull? A whole host of reasons I imagine, one of which would have been, "Yeah, I, Heiwa, designed the wildly safe and successful next-gen tanker hull that is now used throughout the world."

"Yeah, I, Neil Amstrong, was the first human to walk on the moon."

See, pretty much the same thing.

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« Reply #13565 on: August 06, 2021, 03:16:29 AM »
BTW, when on the Moon, what shall you do there?

Take a selfie, obviously.

What do people do when they get to the summit of Everest? Not a whole lot. Pretty much hang for a few minutes, take in the view, relish in the accomplishment, take some photos, and get the hell back down to camp. Pretty much what astronauts did, though they also did some sciency stuff.

So what's your point? Why venture to the North or south poles? Why climb mountains? Why run a marathon? People do lots of stuff just to accomplish doing stuff. Doing it just to be able to have done it. Doing something that has never been done. Or doing something faster, better, more efficiently. Part of what makes up innovation. Are you anti-innovation? Why design your egg hull? A whole host of reasons I imagine, one of which would have been, "Yeah, I, Heiwa, designed the wildly safe and successful next-gen tanker hull that is now used throughout the world."

"Yeah, I, Neil Amstrong, was the first human to walk on the moon."

See, pretty much the same thing.
Not at all. Mount Everest is the highest mountain on Earth with its two poles, etc,  but walking on the Moon??? Give me a break. Anyone can walk on Earth. Why would Neil become a hero just walking ... on the Moon?
And it is the Challenge/topic. How did Neil get there ... to walk?
IMHO Neil just faked it.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #13566 on: August 06, 2021, 03:42:20 AM »
BTW, when on the Moon, what shall you do there?

Take a selfie, obviously.

What do people do when they get to the summit of Everest? Not a whole lot. Pretty much hang for a few minutes, take in the view, relish in the accomplishment, take some photos, and get the hell back down to camp. Pretty much what astronauts did, though they also did some sciency stuff.

So what's your point? Why venture to the North or south poles? Why climb mountains? Why run a marathon? People do lots of stuff just to accomplish doing stuff. Doing it just to be able to have done it. Doing something that has never been done. Or doing something faster, better, more efficiently. Part of what makes up innovation. Are you anti-innovation? Why design your egg hull? A whole host of reasons I imagine, one of which would have been, "Yeah, I, Heiwa, designed the wildly safe and successful next-gen tanker hull that is now used throughout the world."

"Yeah, I, Neil Amstrong, was the first human to walk on the moon."

See, pretty much the same thing.
Not at all. Mount Everest is the highest mountain on Earth with its two poles, etc,  but walking on the Moon??? Give me a break. Anyone can walk on Earth. Why would Neil become a hero just walking ... on the Moon?

Not anyone can walk on earth, if that part of earth is hostile to their human condition. Just drop the ridiculous non-argument that something is not worthy to do because you wouldn't do it or see no value in it. It's just ridiculous.
Case in point, I see no worth or value in you going up against the American juggernaut of rejecting your egg hull tanker design and you defending it across the web 30 years on. A Quixotic venture at best. But I still laud your ability to come up with a design and going through the machinations to try and get it approved and built. Same thing. So don't shit on someone else's achievements just because you don't align with their motivations.

And it is the Challenge/topic. How did Neil get there ... to walk?
IMHO Neil just faked it.

Yes, we're well aware of your IMHO. But here in lies the problem and one of the myriad reasons your "challenge", as you incorrectly call it, is fake unto itself.

All of your responses to said challenges(s) amount to "IMHO". That's not proper. What would be, when you ask for data, calculations, aka specifics, you need to respond with data, calculations, aka specifics. You need to detail, as an example, why X amount of fuel would not propel a manned spacecraft out of earth's orbit...Specifically. Not just IMHO...No.

That is not a challenge. That's just you claiming you will give someone money for you to say No. That's what is really known as fake.


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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #13567 on: August 06, 2021, 05:30:47 AM »
BTW, when on the Moon, what shall you do there?

Take a selfie, obviously.

What do people do when they get to the summit of Everest? Not a whole lot. Pretty much hang for a few minutes, take in the view, relish in the accomplishment, take some photos, and get the hell back down to camp. Pretty much what astronauts did, though they also did some sciency stuff.

So what's your point? Why venture to the North or south poles? Why climb mountains? Why run a marathon? People do lots of stuff just to accomplish doing stuff. Doing it just to be able to have done it. Doing something that has never been done. Or doing something faster, better, more efficiently. Part of what makes up innovation. Are you anti-innovation? Why design your egg hull? A whole host of reasons I imagine, one of which would have been, "Yeah, I, Heiwa, designed the wildly safe and successful next-gen tanker hull that is now used throughout the world."

"Yeah, I, Neil Amstrong, was the first human to walk on the moon."

See, pretty much the same thing.
Not at all. Mount Everest is the highest mountain on Earth with its two poles, etc,  but walking on the Moon??? Give me a break. Anyone can walk on Earth. Why would Neil become a hero just walking ... on the Moon?

Not anyone can walk on earth, if that part of earth is hostile to their human condition. Just drop the ridiculous non-argument that something is not worthy to do because you wouldn't do it or see no value in it. It's just ridiculous.
Case in point, I see no worth or value in you going up against the American juggernaut of rejecting your egg hull tanker design and you defending it across the web 30 years on. A Quixotic venture at best. But I still laud your ability to come up with a design and going through the machinations to try and get it approved and built. Same thing. So don't shit on someone else's achievements just because you don't align with their motivations.

And it is the Challenge/topic. How did Neil get there ... to walk?
IMHO Neil just faked it.

Yes, we're well aware of your IMHO. But here in lies the problem and one of the myriad reasons your "challenge", as you incorrectly call it, is fake unto itself.

All of your responses to said challenges(s) amount to "IMHO". That's not proper. What would be, when you ask for data, calculations, aka specifics, you need to respond with data, calculations, aka specifics. You need to detail, as an example, why X amount of fuel would not propel a manned spacecraft out of earth's orbit...Specifically. Not just IMHO...No.

That is not a challenge. That's just you claiming you will give someone money for you to say No. That's what is really known as fake.

Please, people walk on our planet Earth since the start and Jesus walked on water around 25 AD and I swim in the water here today. My Challenge is to explain why (and fuel required) anyone would fly to the Moon and walk on it.
Because it is there? I see the Moon from my window and YES, if any could get there and walk on it, it is possible. Challenge is how to get there.

And to repeat. My opinion is that anyone suggesting it is possible to travel to the Moon is a fraud. But I'll still pay anyone €1M, if it is proven possible.

It is like this Flat Earth question. If Earth is flat, any water on it would simply flow off the sides.
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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #13568 on: August 06, 2021, 05:55:32 AM »
Maybe you could answer the question here and now for reply #13561
You are light years off topic but why not? Anti-matter is not good fuel for space crafts exploring the Universe. The anti-matter fuel simply reacts with the other fuel and .... BOUM ... end of trip.

Antimatter reacting with matter is kind of the point ::)

Yes, I understand. If you think anti-matter fuel will take you to the Moon, I look forward to it. BTW, when on the Moon, what shall you do there?

I was thinking to take a piss. A dump too if I can. Once man kind extincts itself from existence from some stupid war here on Earth, future aliens can awe in wonder how a turd ended up on the Moon. My turd 8)

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #13569 on: August 06, 2021, 06:06:51 AM »
BTW, when on the Moon, what shall you do there?

Take a selfie, obviously.

What do people do when they get to the summit of Everest? Not a whole lot. Pretty much hang for a few minutes, take in the view, relish in the accomplishment, take some photos, and get the hell back down to camp. Pretty much what astronauts did, though they also did some sciency stuff.

So what's your point? Why venture to the North or south poles? Why climb mountains? Why run a marathon? People do lots of stuff just to accomplish doing stuff. Doing it just to be able to have done it. Doing something that has never been done. Or doing something faster, better, more efficiently. Part of what makes up innovation. Are you anti-innovation? Why design your egg hull? A whole host of reasons I imagine, one of which would have been, "Yeah, I, Heiwa, designed the wildly safe and successful next-gen tanker hull that is now used throughout the world."

"Yeah, I, Neil Amstrong, was the first human to walk on the moon."

See, pretty much the same thing.
Not at all. Mount Everest is the highest mountain on Earth with its two poles, etc,  but walking on the Moon??? Give me a break. Anyone can walk on Earth. Why would Neil become a hero just walking ... on the Moon?

Not anyone can walk on earth, if that part of earth is hostile to their human condition. Just drop the ridiculous non-argument that something is not worthy to do because you wouldn't do it or see no value in it. It's just ridiculous.
Case in point, I see no worth or value in you going up against the American juggernaut of rejecting your egg hull tanker design and you defending it across the web 30 years on. A Quixotic venture at best. But I still laud your ability to come up with a design and going through the machinations to try and get it approved and built. Same thing. So don't shit on someone else's achievements just because you don't align with their motivations.

And it is the Challenge/topic. How did Neil get there ... to walk?
IMHO Neil just faked it.

Yes, we're well aware of your IMHO. But here in lies the problem and one of the myriad reasons your "challenge", as you incorrectly call it, is fake unto itself.

All of your responses to said challenges(s) amount to "IMHO". That's not proper. What would be, when you ask for data, calculations, aka specifics, you need to respond with data, calculations, aka specifics. You need to detail, as an example, why X amount of fuel would not propel a manned spacecraft out of earth's orbit...Specifically. Not just IMHO...No.

That is not a challenge. That's just you claiming you will give someone money for you to say No. That's what is really known as fake.

Please, people walk on our planet Earth since the start and Jesus walked on water around 25 AD and I swim in the water here today. My Challenge is to explain why (and fuel required) anyone would fly to the Moon and walk on it.
Because it is there? I see the Moon from my window and YES, if any could get there a walk on it, it is possible. Challenge is how to get there.

And to repeat. My opinion is that anyone suggesting it is possible to travel to the Moon is a fraud. But I'll still pay anyone €1M, if it is proven possible.

It is like this Flat Earth question. If Earth is flat, any water on it would simply flow off the sides.

Your opinions are neither here nor there. Refute the specifics and you have a challenge. IMHO is not a proper refutation of anything, it's just your opinion. Be specific if you want to have even just the mere optics of credibility. You lack the ability of self-reflection to even remotely understand that your egg design was, in part, an exercise in "because it's there" thinking. Sad.

As it stands, you have no credibility, just "No" opinions. Though this thread is long, got pinned, if anyone takes the time to read even through a small portion of it, you come off as a deluded, egotistical, and well, batshit crazy, a fringe loon throwing around a dollar amount you could never afford for vapid "challenges" you refuse to even defend. It's all a bizarrely encircled by a man broken by a design dream of altering the worldwide shipping industry that crashed and burned on you 30 years ago. A man, though he has a pinned thread, has to self-necro it every few weeks when no one pays attention to it. It's all so sad.

Up your game, be specific in your examinations and calculations. Otherwise, you will always be seen as just a crank. And see if you can stop necro'ing your own thread that has an unbelievably and undeservedly prominent place on this little forum and actually see how much the world cares.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #13570 on: August 06, 2021, 08:35:59 AM »


Your opinions are neither here nor there. Refute the specifics and you have a challenge. IMHO is not a proper refutation of anything, it's just your opinion. Be specific if you want to have even just the mere optics of credibility. You lack the ability of self-reflection to even remotely understand that your egg design was, in part, an exercise in "because it's there" thinking. Sad.

As it stands, you have no credibility, just "No" opinions. Though this thread is long, got pinned, if anyone takes the time to read even through a small portion of it, you come off as a deluded, egotistical, and well, batshit crazy, a fringe loon throwing around a dollar amount you could never afford for vapid "challenges" you refuse to even defend. It's all a bizarrely encircled by a man broken by a design dream of altering the worldwide shipping industry that crashed and burned on you 30 years ago. A man, though he has a pinned thread, has to self-necro it every few weeks when no one pays attention to it. It's all so sad.

Up your game, be specific in your examinations and calculations. Otherwise, you will always be seen as just a crank. And see if you can stop necro'ing your own thread that has an unbelievably and undeservedly prominent place on this little forum and actually see how much the world cares.
Topic is my popular Challenge and thread was started by a bad loser of it years ago. You sound like being a friend of him.
I am actually a friendly, healthy and wealthy person without any problems of any kind. I made my fortune in shipping and enjoy life today. To do so you had to move around like me in various places during>50 years. Have you ever been abroad?

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« Reply #13571 on: August 06, 2021, 03:28:11 PM »
Please, people walk on our planet Earth since the start and Jesus walked on water around 25 AD and I swim in the water here today.
Yes, but no human being since the creation of the earth and moon had ever walked on the moon until Niel Armstrong did it.
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« Reply #13572 on: August 06, 2021, 08:36:29 PM »
Please, people walk on our planet Earth since the start and Jesus walked on water around 25 AD and I swim in the water here today.
Yes, but no human being since the creation of the earth and moon had ever walked on the moon until Niel Armstrong did it.
Yes, Niel said so. But he just lied as usual. Like his friend dr. Buzz!

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« Reply #13573 on: August 06, 2021, 10:44:46 PM »
Please, people walk on our planet Earth since the start and Jesus walked on water around 25 AD and I swim in the water here today.
Yes, but no human being since the creation of the earth and moon had ever walked on the moon until Niel Armstrong did it.

Neil didn't do it. It was a team effort. No one remembers the poor bastard that flew his arse over there.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #13574 on: August 07, 2021, 12:41:21 AM »
Heiwa, are you a lesbian ?

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« Reply #13575 on: August 07, 2021, 07:00:37 AM »
Please, people walk on our planet Earth since the start and Jesus walked on water around 25 AD and I swim in the water here today.
Yes, but no human being since the creation of the earth and moon had ever walked on the moon until Niel Armstrong did it.

Neil didn't do it. It was a team effort. No one remembers the poor bastard that flew his arse over there.
Do you mean Michael Collins, the command module pilot?

Please, people walk on our planet Earth since the start and Jesus walked on water around 25 AD and I swim in the water here today.
Yes, but no human being since the creation of the earth and moon had ever walked on the moon until Niel Armstrong did it.
Yes, Niel said so. But he just lied as usual. Like his friend dr. Buzz!
I think that you're lying about Niel and Buzz lying.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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« Reply #13576 on: August 07, 2021, 07:47:05 AM »
Please, people walk on our planet Earth since the start and Jesus walked on water around 25 AD and I swim in the water here today.
Yes, but no human being since the creation of the earth and moon had ever walked on the moon until Niel Armstrong did it.

Neil didn't do it. It was a team effort. No one remembers the poor bastard that flew his arse over there.
Do you mean Michael Collins, the command module pilot?

Sure, if that's his name. Ask anyone on the street 'who was the first man to walk on the moon?' I bet they all know Neil Armstrong. Ask who flew him there - I bet you get blank stares from many

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« Reply #13577 on: August 07, 2021, 09:11:09 AM »
Ask anyone on the street 'who was the first man to walk on the moon?' I bet they all know Neil Armstrong. Ask who flew him there - I bet you get blank stares from many
These days, I wouldn't be surprised if most people don't even remember Neil Armstrong.
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« Reply #13578 on: August 07, 2021, 09:42:33 AM »
Please, people walk on our planet Earth since the start and Jesus walked on water around 25 AD and I swim in the water here today.
Yes, but no human being since the creation of the earth and moon had ever walked on the moon until Niel Armstrong did it.

Neil didn't do it. It was a team effort. No one remembers the poor bastard that flew his arse over there.
Do you mean Michael Collins, the command module pilot?

Please, people walk on our planet Earth since the start and Jesus walked on water around 25 AD and I swim in the water here today.
Yes, but no human being since the creation of the earth and moon had ever walked on the moon until Niel Armstrong did it.
Yes, Niel said so. But he just lied as usual. Like his friend dr. Buzz!
I think that you're lying about Niel and Buzz lying.
Why not? But I think Niel and Buzz never left Earth 1969 and it is the reason for my Challenge (topic). If it is so simple to fly to the Moon, why cannot anyone tell me the fuel to use, etc?????

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« Reply #13579 on: August 07, 2021, 10:49:56 AM »
But I think Niel and Buzz never left Earth 1969 and it is the reason for my Challenge (topic).
Reality doesn't care what you think.

If it is so simple to fly to the Moon, why cannot anyone tell me the fuel to use, etc?????
How many times do we have to tell you that flying to the moon is not simple?  Seriously, is there a number? 
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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« Reply #13580 on: August 07, 2021, 07:33:00 PM »
But I think Niel and Buzz never left Earth 1969 and it is the reason for my Challenge (topic).
Reality doesn't care what you think.

If it is so simple to fly to the Moon, why cannot anyone tell me the fuel to use, etc?????
How many times do we have to tell you that flying to the moon is not simple?  Seriously, is there a number?

You are just a loser of my Challenge. And you are not alone. It gives me a good laugh every time I meet a person believing in humans on the Moon.
It is not easy being a loser. Look at USA leaving Afghanistan today blaming terrorists for it.

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« Reply #13581 on: August 07, 2021, 11:29:50 PM »

These days, I wouldn't be surprised if most people don't even remember Neil Armstrong.

Wasn't Neil Armstrong the bus driver for Ms Parks ?

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« Reply #13582 on: August 08, 2021, 01:40:38 AM »

These days, I wouldn't be surprised if most people don't even remember Neil Armstrong.

Wasn't Neil Armstrong the bus driver for Ms Parks ?
No, he bombed North Korea back to the stone age from the air early 1950's. An American hero!!!!

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« Reply #13583 on: August 18, 2021, 12:36:49 AM »
It seems fundamentalist, fanatic, Islamic terrorists killers (Taliban)  have conquered Kabul and Afghanistan without a shot being fired this week #33/2021. USA with its nuclear arms and human space flight programs just ran away leaving everyone behind. Plenty clean, well dressed, armed people have shown up at Kabul media shows saying they have liberated Kabul, BUT that next week all girls >12 years old must marry 50+ years old men. What a stupid show. I will not even make a Challenge about it.

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« Reply #13584 on: August 18, 2021, 06:30:43 AM »
It seems fundamentalist, fanatic, Islamic terrorists killers (Taliban)  have conquered Kabul and Afghanistan without a shot being fired this week #33/2021. USA with its nuclear arms and human space flight programs just ran away leaving everyone behind. Plenty clean, well dressed, armed people have shown up at Kabul media shows saying they have liberated Kabul, BUT that next week all girls >12 years old must marry 50+ years old men. What a stupid show. I will not even make a Challenge about it.

Why not make a Challenge about?

Rabinoz RIP

That would put you in the same category as pedophile perverts like John Davis, NSS, robots like Stash, Shifter, and victimized kids like Alexey.

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« Reply #13585 on: August 18, 2021, 09:32:10 PM »
It seems fundamentalist, fanatic, Islamic terrorists killers (Taliban)  have conquered Kabul and Afghanistan without a shot being fired this week #33/2021. USA with its nuclear arms and human space flight programs just ran away leaving everyone behind. Plenty clean, well dressed, armed people have shown up at Kabul media shows saying they have liberated Kabul, BUT that next week all girls >12 years old must marry 50+ years old men. What a stupid show. I will not even make a Challenge about it.

Why not make a Challenge about?
No, the US attack and occupation of Afghanistan 2001 was a criminal act just to keep particular interests happy. No fun at all. But to fool people about fake trips to the Moon is fun.

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« Reply #13586 on: August 25, 2021, 01:35:08 PM »
Ok, so I watched the fictional drama 'First Man'. About a guy named Neil Armstrong and Americas endeavor to make it to the Moon in the 1960s

I get the vibe from the movie they were basing it on a true story but I have some issues with it

They never showed a return to Earth once they were in space. There was some catastrophe on the Gemini 8 mission but then 'poof!' They were back on Earth no dramas. They landed on the Moon later and Neil threw away some sentimental wrist band that belonged to his dead daughter but then another 'poof!' Next scene was back on Earth. No showing how they managed to take off from the Moon and return to Earth. Getting to the Moon is only half the trip. It would have been quite precarious and nail biting to take off from the Moon, rendezvous with the rocket and get back to Earth and land.

This movie trying to pretend it was based on real events seems to lend credence to Heiwa and his issue with getting to the Moon AND BACK

Also that ending..... The cold look of his wife through the quarantine glass. Awkward silence. Holy shit, I was thinking Neil must have thought going to the Moon was less scary then having to see that cold hearted bitch of a wife staring at him. Yikes


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« Reply #13587 on: August 25, 2021, 03:43:54 PM »
Ok, so I watched the fictional drama 'First Man'. About a guy named Neil Armstrong and Americas endeavor to make it to the Moon in the 1960s

I get the vibe from the movie they were basing it on a true story but I have some issues with it

They never showed a return to Earth once they were in space. There was some catastrophe on the Gemini 8 mission but then 'poof!' They were back on Earth no dramas. They landed on the Moon later and Neil threw away some sentimental wrist band that belonged to his dead daughter but then another 'poof!' Next scene was back on Earth. No showing how they managed to take off from the Moon and return to Earth. Getting to the Moon is only half the trip. It would have been quite precarious and nail biting to take off from the Moon, rendezvous with the rocket and get back to Earth and land.

This movie trying to pretend it was based on real events seems to lend credence to Heiwa and his issue with getting to the Moon AND BACK

Also that ending..... The cold look of his wife through the quarantine glass. Awkward silence. Holy shit, I was thinking Neil must have thought going to the Moon was less scary then having to see that cold hearted bitch of a wife staring at him. Yikes

Ummm, it was, you know, a movie. And as such, this, or anything else lends no credence to Heiwa's synaptic failures.

The movie was based on the only authorized biography of Armstrong. The book was way more about the man than the mission.

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« Reply #13588 on: August 25, 2021, 06:25:39 PM »
It didn't show any of the astronauts going to the bathroom in space either.  Or on Earth, for that matter.  Does that mean that people don't piss or poop?
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« Reply #13589 on: August 26, 2021, 04:50:47 AM »
It didn't show any of the astronauts going to the bathroom in space either.  Or on Earth, for that matter.  Does that mean that people don't piss or poop?

No, because that is uninteresting. Probably the most technical marvel of the Moon mission would have been retrieving the guys who landed there

https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a28451454/apollo-11-return/
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the difficulties associated with launching a spacecraft off the lunar surface, docking with another craft in orbit, propelling the crew hundreds of thousands of miles, and surviving the blazing heat of reentry were daunting. A single failure of the launch apparatus would doom Armstrong and Aldrin to an icy grave in our night sky, and concerns that it might happen were so prevalent that President Richard Nixon had a speech prepared for the possibility.

As the countdown to the crew’s second launch of the Apollo 11 mission crept toward zero, there was no fanfare and no adoring crowds in spectator stands. There were just two men, a barely tested spacecraft held together in some places with nothing more than tape, and an astronaut carrying their ticket home some 70 miles above.

It took the accumulated efforts of thousands of people, engineering miracles, and the skill, grit, and determination of the three-man crew to get them to the moon, and it would take no less to get them back.

We had none of that. Just a 'poof!' back on Earth for an awkward stare down with his later to be divorced wife. Yikes.

And take this tidbit
https://www.history.com/news/buzz-aldrin-moon-landing-accident
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"One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind" could have turned out dramatically different had it not been for astronaut Buzz Aldrin’s ingenuity in averting disaster with a simple felt-tip pen.

One of the most precarious aspects of space flight is the return, especially if there is a disaster. Imagine the Apollo 13 movie if it ended after their flyby of the Moon and after showing the audience the dire situation they were in, the next scene was of them safely back on Earth.

After the scare and near death experience of Gemini 8, one guy pondered if they had enough fuel left. No worries, next scene they are on the ground. Same as the Moon. The whole technical marvel and accomplishment of lifting off from the moon to rendezvous with their rocket 70 miles above - nah, no one cares to see that

Overall I have to give the movie a 2/10. Major fail for cutting out important aspects of the missions. I'll give it an extra point for looking great on 4K but that's it





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